History YMMV / GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas

17th Nov '17 11:10:13 PM ShrekTheNeck
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** While not as prominentaly featured, Los Aztecas might be this for some even more so
24th Oct '17 11:56:46 AM REV6Pilot
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** The game would occasionally spawn aircraft that had a flight plan going straight into the ground, assuming the player was at certain parts of the game world (the tops of a rural mountain). The dev team discovered this bug when the game was being tested ''and decided not to fix it''.
** This bug has been seen in the middle of a crowded intersection, which destroyed several cars and killed many people. Assuredly, worth the price of admission as the bug was not known of at that time.
** There is another bug in this game where, in some 2-player situations, player 2 can decapitate player 1 (with the sword) and player 1 will respawn headless with blood spurting out of their neck.

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** The game would occasionally spawn aircraft that had a flight plan going straight into the ground, assuming the player was at certain parts of the game world (the tops of a rural mountain). The dev team discovered this bug when the game was being tested ''and and [[ThrowItIn decided not to fix it''.
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it]] [[RuleOfFunny because it's funny]]. This bug has been seen in the middle of a crowded intersection, which destroyed several cars and killed many people. Assuredly, worth the price of admission as the bug was not known of at that time.
** There is another bug in this game where, in some 2-player situations, player 2 can decapitate player 1 (with the sword) and player 1 will respawn headless with blood spurting out of their neck.



** Several "ghost" vehicles are in the game. These tend to be due to odd spawn conditions within the game itself, the most famous being the Ghost Cars in the hills of the Back-O-Beyond. They spawn at the top of a hill and roll slowly down, heavily damaged and completely driverless. Others include a "ghost hovercraft" at Bayside and another "ghost" car at Mt. Chiliad, even though that one has a driver. They don't do anything particularly useful, other than give you some transportation, but they are definitely [[AccidentalNightmareFuel creepy]].
*** And on occasion, dangerous if you don't see it coming. Nothing like an empty car slamming into yours just inches from your face...
** Using the jetpack and some careful maneuvering, you can get into some rooms and other areas that are normally contained only within cutscenes, as detailed [[http://lparchive.org/Grand-Theft-Auto-San-Andreas-(Screenshot)/Update%2092d/ here]]

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** Several "ghost" vehicles are in the game. These tend to be due to odd spawn conditions within the game itself, the most famous being the Ghost Cars in the hills of the Back-O-Beyond. They spawn at the top of a hill and roll slowly down, heavily damaged and completely driverless. Others include a "ghost hovercraft" at Bayside and another "ghost" car at Mt. Chiliad, even though that one has a driver. They don't do anything particularly useful, useful other than give you some transportation, being usable vehicles, but they are definitely [[AccidentalNightmareFuel creepy]].
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creepy]]. And on occasion, dangerous if you don't see it coming. Nothing like an empty car slamming into yours just inches from your face...
** Using the jetpack and some careful maneuvering, you can get into some rooms and other areas that are normally contained only within cutscenes, as detailed [[http://lparchive.org/Grand-Theft-Auto-San-Andreas-(Screenshot)/Update%2092d/ here]]here]].



** Like the other 3d [=GTAs=], various vehicles are rendered immune to some forms of attack for plot reasons. [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/914983-grand-theft-auto-san-andreas/faqs/34824 Through various methods]] one can steal them and drive them around unkillable.
** In a good version of the infamous [[GameBreakingBug Purple Nines glitch]] from ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII'', if you've earned Katie and Barbara's dating bonuses (no penalty for being Wasted or Busted, respectively) and start a new game from that save file, the bonuses will carry over to the new save file, even if you never date those two for the entire game.
** The Ammunation range glitch; after completing all the Ammunation challenges (last one is with the [=AK47=]) if you re-enter the shooting range with a different submachine gun, assault riffle and/or shotgun than the one used in the challenge and quickly exit you will double your ammo for that weapon type which basically gets you infinite ammo. Used with the M4, SMG and SPAS-12 this glitch easily becomes a GameBreaker.

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** Like the other 3d 3D [=GTAs=], various vehicles are rendered immune to some forms of attack for plot reasons. [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/914983-grand-theft-auto-san-andreas/faqs/34824 Through various methods]] one can steal them and drive them around unkillable.
** In a good version of the infamous [[GameBreakingBug Purple Nines glitch]] from ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII'', if you've earned Katie and Barbara's dating bonuses (no (respectively, no penalty for being Wasted or Busted, respectively) Busted) and start a new game from that save file, the bonuses will carry over to the new save file, even if you never date those two for the entire game.
** The Ammunation Ammu-nation range glitch; after completing all the Ammunation challenges (last one is with the [=AK47=]) if glitch. If you re-enter enter the shooting range with a different submachine gun, assault riffle rifle and/or shotgun than the one used in the challenge and quickly exit before finishing it, you will double your ammo for that weapon type which basically gets type. Do it enough times and you have infinite ammo. Used with the M4, [=MP5=] SMG and SPAS-12 SPAS-12, this glitch easily becomes a GameBreaker.



*** Additionally, they attempted to fix how easy it was to simply drive into a Pay n Spray and lose your wanted level (provided you didn't break any laws for a few seconds afterwords) no matter how close the cops were on your tail as in Vice City; however, you merely needed to be slightly out of their line of sight when you entered and it would work. Later games in the series somewhat addressed this, as you can see on your HUD if you're in the line of sight or not, and the games will allow you the respray if you aren't.
** Because of the way this game calculates vehicle physics [[note]]Cars aren't affected by any forces until you interact with them in some way.[[/note]], you can exploit that by placing a monster truck tire on a car, touching the car [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW3Fb48Wegg and enjoying the result]].

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*** ** Additionally, they attempted to fix how easy it was to simply drive into a Pay n Spray Pay'n'Spray and lose your wanted level (provided you didn't break any laws for a few seconds afterwords) no matter how close the cops were on your tail as in Vice City; ''Vice City''; however, you merely needed to be slightly out of their line of sight when you entered and it would work. Later games in the series somewhat addressed this, as you can see on your HUD if you're in the line of sight or not, and the games will allow you the respray if you aren't.
** Because of the way this game calculates vehicle physics [[note]]Cars physics[[note]]cars aren't affected by any forces until you interact with them in some way.[[/note]], way[[/note]], you can exploit that by placing a monster truck tire on a car, touching the car [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW3Fb48Wegg and enjoying the result]].



* HilariousInHindsight: At one point, The Truth starts rambling about mind-control satellites and religious artifacts. The plot of ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'' involves religious artifacts being used in mind-control satellites.

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At one point, The Truth starts rambling about mind-control satellites and religious artifacts. The plot of ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'' involves religious artifacts being used in mind-control satellites.



*** Also, Tenpenny's "I got my eye on you" line is a bit hilarious given Jackson's Nick Fury also likes saying similar lines.

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*** ** Also, Tenpenny's "I got my eye on you" line is a bit hilarious given Jackson's Nick Fury also likes saying similar lines.



* InternetBackdraft: This happened when Rockstar updated the Steam release of ''San Andreas''. Although it finally brought native compatibility with Xbox 360 and other [=XInput=] controllers, it removed songs that had expired licenses, as well as accidentally removing the 1920 by 1080 resolution option (which was later restored in another update). This also made fans worried about the future of digital distribution, while those with disc copies were likely clenching onto their disks.
* ItWasHisSled: It's pretty much impossible these days to have even some vague knowledge of the game without knowing that [[spoiler: Big Smoke and Ryder are traitors]], though it was initially a big plot twist.

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* InternetBackdraft: This happened when Rockstar updated the Steam release of ''San Andreas''. Although it finally brought native compatibility with Xbox 360 and other [=XInput=] controllers, it removed songs that had expired licenses, as well as accidentally removing the 1920 by 1080 1920x1080 resolution option (which was later restored in another update). This also made fans worried about the future of digital distribution, while those with disc copies were likely clenching clutching onto their disks.
* ItWasHisSled: It's pretty much impossible these days to have even some vague knowledge of the game without knowing that [[spoiler: Big [[spoiler:Big Smoke and Ryder are traitors]], though it was initially a big plot twist.
24th Oct '17 10:24:00 AM REV6Pilot
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** The legal system, and the people who work in it gets a bad rap too. Mid-Game Tenpenny calls Carl and instructs him to frame a guy for weed possession. CJ is opposed to the idea until Tenpenny mentions that he is a District Attorney, after which CJ happily performs the task given to him.

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** The legal system, and the people who work in it gets a bad rap too. Mid-Game Tenpenny calls Carl and instructs him to frame a guy for weed possession. CJ is opposed to the idea until Tenpenny mentions that he is a District Attorney, after which CJ happily performs accepts the task given to him.mission.
19th Oct '17 9:11:58 AM SkylaNoivern
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The opening of A Home In The Hills features a dwarf rapping, only to be told off by Woozie for not having enough mass appeal. It only lasts about 15 seconds, and it's discarded immediately after CJ arrives.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The opening of A Home In The Hills features a dwarf rapping, only to be told off by Woozie for not having enough mass appeal. It While the dwarf has a bit of dialogue coming back at Woozie, the entire scene only lasts about 15 seconds, and it's discarded immediately after CJ arrives.
2nd Oct '17 1:58:59 PM VisitorAlex
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* MoralEventHorizon: Tenpenny, Pulaski and the Ballas in the video "The Introduction", killing CJ's mother so that he'd come back to Los Santos, letting the dirty cops frame him for their murder of their fellow officer.
** Tenpenny doesn't just cross the Moral Event Horizon, he turns around so he can cross it again and again, forcing CJ to kill people who are working to expose his corruption, ''including FBI agents''.
** OG Loc crosses it, when he orders CJ to kidnap and kill the manager of Mad Dogg, and as if that were not enough, then orders him to kill all the rapper's guards and steal his rhyme book. It is incredible that an apparently comedic character and even ridiculed by their partners can be so vile. Ultimately Loc's actions through CJ leave Mad Dogg an alcoholic, depressed, suicidal mess, though luckily CJ, out of guilt, stops Dogg's suicide attempt, gets him to rehab, and helps him take back everything Loc had taken from him.
** Catalina shooting civilians randomly in a betting house simply because she enjoys it. Even CJ himself was disgusted by Catalina.
** Salvatore Leone has probably crossed it when he threatens CJ to kill him and his entire family, although not proven if he really did in later years.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Tenpenny, Pulaski and the Ballas in the video "The Introduction", killing CJ's mother so that he'd come back to Los Santos, letting the dirty cops frame him for their murder of their fellow officer.
** Tenpenny doesn't just cross the Moral Event Horizon, he turns around so he can cross it again and again, forcing CJ to kill people who are working to expose his corruption, ''including FBI agents''.
** OG Loc crosses it, when he orders CJ to kidnap and kill the manager of Mad Dogg, and as if that were not enough, then orders him to kill all the rapper's guards and steal his rhyme book. It is incredible that an apparently comedic character and even ridiculed by their partners can be so vile. Ultimately Loc's actions through CJ leave Mad Dogg an alcoholic, depressed, suicidal mess, though luckily CJ, out of guilt, stops Dogg's suicide attempt, gets him to rehab, and helps him take back everything Loc had taken from him.
** Catalina shooting civilians randomly in a betting house simply because she enjoys it. Even CJ himself was disgusted by Catalina.
** Salvatore Leone has probably crossed it when he threatens CJ to kill him and his entire family, although not proven if he really did in later years.
[[MoralEventHorizon/GrandTheftAuto See here.]]
1st Oct '17 11:37:27 PM SkylaNoivern
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The opening of A Home In The Hills features a dwarf rapping, only to be told off by Woozie for not having enough mass appeal. It only lasts about 15 seconds, and it's discarded immediately after CJ arrives.
12th Sep '17 2:35:11 AM waters20
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*** While discussing Ryder himself, [[spoiler:what was his motivation of the storyline really? Considering how he is treated as a minor character after his betrayal and never given a proper death scene, one could conclude that Rockstar either had no use for Ryder's character after CJ would leave Los Santos to the other cities of San Andreas, so they improvised his betrayal at the last second, or that Ryder was originally a side character who Rockstar suddenly gained an attachment to so much that they made him one of the main character and didn't plan his motivation of the game out very well.]] Here's a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9puNdLVoz4&t=1s video of his analysis]].

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*** While discussing Ryder himself, [[spoiler:what was his motivation of the storyline really? Considering how he is treated as a minor character after his betrayal and never given a proper death scene, one could conclude that Rockstar either had no use for Ryder's character after CJ would leave Los Santos to the other cities of San Andreas, so they improvised his betrayal at the last second, or that Ryder was originally a side character who Rockstar suddenly gained an attachment to so much that they made him one of the main character characters and didn't plan his motivation of the game out very well.]] Here's a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9puNdLVoz4&t=1s video of his analysis]].
11th Sep '17 6:10:56 PM waters20
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*** While discussing Ryder himself, [[spoiler:what was his motivation of the storyline really? Considering how he is treated as a minor character after his betrayal and never given a proper death scene, one could conclude that Rockstar either had no use for Ryder's character after CJ would leave Los Santos to the other cities of San Andreas, so they improvised his betrayal at the last second, or that Ryder was originally a side character who Rockstar suddenly gained an attachment to so much that they made him one of the main character and didn't plan his motivation of the game out very well.]] Here's a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9puNdLVoz4&t=1s video of his analysis]].
8th Sep '17 10:18:53 AM SkylaNoivern
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Catalina can be seen as this to plenty of fans. Some of them tend to overlook her psychotic behavior by pointing out how "nice" she looks, and when they do acknowledge it, they try to pass it off as her having a bad childhood. While the comment about a stepfather mistreating his stepdaughter she mentions at the start of the last mission might provide a hint, there is no evidence whatsoever that this has actually happened to Catalina herself since her childhood is never explained in either of her appearances in the two games she was in. So in other words, she has no revealed excuse for her psychopathic ways, and none of her arbitrary outbursts are justified at all.

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Catalina can be seen as this to plenty of fans. Some of them tend to overlook her psychotic behavior by pointing out how "nice" she looks, and when they do acknowledge it, they try to pass it off as her having a bad childhood. While the comment about a stepfather mistreating his stepdaughter she mentions at the start of the last mission might provide a hint, there is no evidence whatsoever that this has actually happened to Catalina herself since her childhood is never explained in either of her appearances in the two games she was in. So in other words, she has no revealed excuse for her psychopathic ways, and none of her arbitrary outbursts are justified at all.all.
** While not entirely major forces of evil, many fans ignore Ryder and Big Smoke's deaths and betrayal of Grove Street and often include them in works as CJ and Sweet's [[VitriolicBestBuds snarky best friends]] (and in Smoke's case, both for being the FatComicRelief and the BigEater).
31st Aug '17 9:49:42 PM waters20
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* AngstWhatAngst: [[spoiler:CJ becomes very upset of Smoke's betrayal and never once says anything about Ryder, nor did he even bring his name up when he tells Sweet about Smoke's betrayal. Right after CJ kills Ryder, the latter is only brought up once by the former (who was, at first, upset about his friend's betrayal, up until Cesar mentions that Ryder tried to rape Kendl), and Sweet, following his release from prison, never even asks about Ryder's whereabouts.]]
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