History YMMV / GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas

22nd Aug '17 3:02:01 PM SkylaNoivern
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** The Driving School missions are somewhat easy to get silver in. All gold? [[LuckBasedMission Expect to spend several hours working at it.]] The reward? An average ([[CoolCar but cool looking]]) car. Several stand out above the rest, though.

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** The Driving School missions are somewhat easy to get silver in. All gold? [[LuckBasedMission Expect to spend several hours working at it.]] The reward? An average ([[CoolCar but cool looking]]) car.car (although you can actually find said car rarely as a random Vigilante car). Several stand out above the rest, though.
20th Aug '17 5:33:20 PM waters20
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** Was Cesar's statement about [[spoiler:Ryder trying to rape Kendl really true, or did he just simply say that to make CJ feel better after showing genuine remorse for killing Ryder? The fact that it was randomly brought up without any evidence just makes it more confusing.]]
5th Aug '17 9:50:21 PM LittleJon
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: You have The Truth, who is the ultimate government conspiracy theorist, and Mike Toreno, who is the ultimate G-Man, and they never meet. What makes this harder is they have a ships passing in the night moment at the airfield when The Truth is talking to you but runs away after he notices Toreno is nearby.
5th Aug '17 9:47:10 PM JulianLapostat
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Some of the problems older fans have with ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' also apply to this game. The countryside is large, but it doesn't really have anything in it, and the same goes for the desert. There are some filler missions that don't really drive the plot forward (Deconstruction, for example), some of the side missions/activities don't exactly scream GTA (Dancing, Trucking, Working at a quarry), and the plot is considered by some to be among the weakest ones in the franchise.
5th Aug '17 9:43:52 PM LittleJon
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** '''Mike Toreno''' who insinuates that Hitler killing himself and that the US nuked Japan are just lies. Given his government connections and how he just ''makes things happen'', he may not be lying.
3rd Aug '17 4:39:55 AM Killerikala
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* ContestedSequel: While they usually admit that the game was revolutionary when it was released, there are some who prefer the other entries in the series for not having the abovementioned RPG elements, [[BaseBreakingCharacter CJ]], and for having plots that they feel are better written, especially since San Andreas can feel like a RandomEventsPlot at places.


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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Some of the problems older fans have with ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' also apply to this game. The countryside is large, but it doesn't really have anything in it, and the same goes for the desert. There are some filler missions that don't really drive the plot forward (Deconstruction, for example), some of the side missions/activities don't exactly scream GTA (Dancing, Trucking, Working at a quarry), and the plot is considered by some to be among the weakest ones in the franchise.
11th Jun '17 10:00:57 PM nombretomado
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGajN6mUoZQ Ryder nigga!]][[note]]During "Sweet & Kendl", after you reach the checkpoint at Grove Street, Ryder can be seen riding his bike around the cul-de-sac and doing wheelies while Big Smoke and Sweet talk to Carl during the cutscene. One of his lines during the cutscene is "I got them mother fuckers though, showed them nigga whose gangster. Ryder nigga." The "Ryder nigga" part became a popular meme on San Andreas WebVideo/YoutubePoop videos.[[/note]]

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGajN6mUoZQ Ryder nigga!]][[note]]During "Sweet & Kendl", after you reach the checkpoint at Grove Street, Ryder can be seen riding his bike around the cul-de-sac and doing wheelies while Big Smoke and Sweet talk to Carl during the cutscene. One of his lines during the cutscene is "I got them mother fuckers though, showed them nigga whose gangster. Ryder nigga." The "Ryder nigga" part became a popular meme on San Andreas WebVideo/YoutubePoop WebAnimation/YoutubePoop videos.[[/note]]
18th May '17 12:48:40 PM Riley1sCool
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** Even CJ himself to some. The main criticisms being that his personality sometimes changes between missions and he seems to lack both spine and ability to focus in some scenes. (My brother is in jail... But sure, I'll steal you a combine harvester!) In addition, some point out that the massive customization loses some of it's charm as CJ's somewhat high voice remains unchanged.
9th May '17 3:36:39 PM ImSpidey2
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** For free-roamers, the sound of the stunt plane occasionally flying over you.
9th May '17 3:19:20 AM Killerikala
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* {{Wangst}}: CJ sometimes. Every now and then he loses all of his badassery and gets kicked around by anyone the plot demands, and whines about it afterwards. It's a bit hard to root for someone who (even on missions) robs, kills and ruins the lifes of countless innocent civilians and then complains how he has it rough.



* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: CJ. Because showing compassion for some of your enemies totally doesn't make you a badass, right? His feats are comparable to those of Tommy Vercetti and Niko Bellic, but he also has a tendency to show compassion to those who he wronged. Because, you know, ''considering'' the ramifications of his actions every once in a while makes him a pussy. Some of his cutscenes involve [[CutsceneIncompetence some lack of competence]]. Pushed around by two cops, scolded by his brother or being raped by a psychotic woman make him look bad. The problem is mostly due to ludonarrative dissonance, though, as the compassionate part doesn't really mesh with some of the things he does (For example, slaughtering a building crew and burying their foreman alive because one of them called his sister a hooker.)

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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: CJ. Because He does a lot of badass things, but he has a lot of negative traits to balance them out. showing compassion for some those he wronged and considering the ramifications of your enemies totally doesn't make you a badass, right? his actions are good traits, and add to his character. His feats are comparable to those of Tommy Vercetti and Niko Bellic, but he also has a tendency to show compassion to those who he wronged. Because, you know, ''considering'' the ramifications of his actions every once in a while makes him a pussy. Some Bellic. However, some of his cutscenes involve [[CutsceneIncompetence some lack of competence]]. Pushed competence]], as he gets pushed around by two cops, scolded by his brother or being raped by a psychotic woman make him look bad. His lack of spine in some cutscenes can get really annoying to watch, as they sometimes lead to annoying missions that bear no importance to the plot. The problem is mostly due to ludonarrative dissonance, though, as the compassionate part doesn't really mesh with some of the things since one mission he does (For example, slaughtering may be badass, on another he might be complaining about something constantly, and in others he turns into a psychopath (Slaughtering a building crew and burying their foreman alive because one of them called his sister a hooker.)) making him look like a massive hypocrite at times.
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