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* ValuesDissonance: Ariane winds up marrying her boss at Burger King and has a daughter with him, but he is pretty absent. In the film itself, they are portrayed as a loving couple, but with the rise of awareness of sexual harassment in the workplace, this can be a bit more difficult to look at.
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** Was Ariane, Alex's sister apathetic and unhelpful in the charade? Or was she the OnlySaneWoman who is already troubled with being a single mother whose degree is suddenly useless?
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** Was Ariane, Alex's sister apathetic and unhelpful in the charade? Or was she the OnlySaneWoman who is already troubled with being a single mother whose degree is suddenly useless? Alex's sarcasm on her job at Burger King seems pretty tasteless, given that with their mother gone she needs an income to raise her daughter.
** Along with Ariane, does her boyfriend Rainer deserve most of the snark from Alex? The guy puts up with their charade despite the fact that life in DDR is completely foreign to him, is shown to be supportive of his girlfriend and a scene sees him feeding his new stepdaughter, all things that are pretty remarkable for such a young guy.
** Along with Ariane, does her boyfriend Rainer deserve most of the snark from Alex? The guy puts up with their charade despite the fact that life in DDR is completely foreign to him, is shown to be supportive of his girlfriend and a scene sees him feeding his new stepdaughter, all things that are pretty remarkable for such a young guy.
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** TheReveal [[spoiler: that she was planning to flee to the West with her husband and got cold feet at the last moment]] gives a new perspective to Christiane's motivations. Was she really a true believer in the GDR or she was just pretending to be one to shield her children from the less pleasant aspects of life under Communism, especially when one of the member of the family is a defector?
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: To what extent was Alex's charade done out of love and overzealous concern for his mother, versus nostalgia for the past and his suddenly-lost country?
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Thanks to Creator/DanielBruhl's brilliant career in TheNewTens, you'll probaly recognise Alex as Pvt Zoller from ''Film/InglouriousBasterds'', UsefulNotes/NikiLauda from ''Film/Rush2013'' or Helmut Zemo from ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.
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* ValuesDissonance: Ariane winds up marrying her boss at Burger King and has a daughter with him, but he is pretty absent. In the film itself, they are portrayed as a loving couple, but with the rise of awareness of sexual harassment in the workplace, this can be a bit more difficult to look at.
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** Was Arianne, Alex's sister apathetic and unhelpful in the charade? Or was she the OnlySaneWoman who is already troubled with being a single mother whose degree is suddenly useless?
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** Was Arianne, Ariane, Alex's sister apathetic and unhelpful in the charade? Or was she the OnlySaneWoman who is already troubled with being a single mother whose degree is suddenly useless?
* {{Squick}}: Ariane tells Alex that she saw their father at Burger King, and Alex pictures him as a morbidly-obese man shoveling cheeseburgers.
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** Alex and Arianne Ariane progressively finding out that [[spoiler: that their father didn't abandon them willingly but it was their mother who decided not to join him along with the family out of fear. He has been writing them letters for all those years and they never received them.]]
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* TearJerker: Several moments, but the biggest is the ending, [[spoiler: when Alex and the others hold a funeral for his mother and he comments on how he'll remember her and the country she was part of and died with. All while old footage of East Germany streets and his mother and sister at summer camp is shown]].
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* TearJerker: Several moments, but the biggest is the ending, [[spoiler: when Alex and the others hold a funeral for his mother and he comments on how he'll remember her and the country she was part of and died with. All while old footage of East Germany streets and his mother and sister at summer camp is shown]].shown]].
** Alex and Arianne progressively finding out that [[spoiler: that their father didn't abandon them willingly but it was their mother who decided not to join him along with the family out of fear. He has been writing them letters for all those years and they never received them.]]
** Alex and Arianne progressively finding out that [[spoiler: that their father didn't abandon them willingly but it was their mother who decided not to join him along with the family out of fear. He has been writing them letters for all those years and they never received them.]]
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* AcceptableTargets: Punk culture, if a tasteless party Alex and his girlfriend attend is anything to go by.
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** Consumer culture and Western style marketing gets portrayed in bizarre and ridiculous fashion.
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** Consumer culture and Western style marketing gets portrayed in bizarre and ridiculous fashion.
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** During [[spoiler:'President' Jähn]]'s address to the nation, the national anthem of East Germany plays in the background, and then swells to a crescendo as the scene shifts [[spoiler:to the Reunification celebrations]].
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** During [[spoiler:'President' [[spoiler:'General Secretary' Jähn]]'s address to the nation, the national anthem of East Germany plays in the background, background of the speech, keeps playing after the television is switched off, and then swells to a crescendo as the scene shifts [[spoiler:to the Reunification celebrations]].
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* LoveItOrHateIt: The film got a lot of positive reviews from people familiar with TheThemeParkVersion of the GDR, but even then found some criticism for portraying what was supposedly a run down dystopia in a favorable light at times. People who actually lived in the GDR tend to hate it for its often inaccurate portrayal of many things or, seeing as it's a comedy, failing of portraying most of the real problems many East Germans faced when their country and society disappeared basically overnight (the job crisis and resulting mass-poverty being a massive one that the movie ''entirely ignores'' with the exception of showing unemployed adults and some rather unsavory rock n roll parties). Even then the film is popular among the East German ostalgie movement for showing that there were people who legitimately loved their own socialist nation.
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Trivia trope(s).
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* TearJerker: Several moments, but the biggest is the ending, [[spoiler: when Alex and the others hold a funeral for his mother and he comments on how he'll remember her and the country she was part of and died with. All while old footage of East Germany streets and his mother and sister at summer camp is shown]].
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The movie while coming out in 2003 examines the transition from communism to capitalism in the former East Germany.This was an important issue in the 90's and early 2000's in Germany.For germans born after reunification this issue is at most a curiosity.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The movie while coming out in 2003 examines the transition from communism to capitalism in the former East Germany.This was an important issue in the 90's and early 2000's in Germany.For germans born after reunification this issue is at most a curiosity.
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* TearJerker: Several moments, but the biggest is the ending, [[spoiler: when Alex and the others hold a funeral for his mother and he comments on how he'll remember her and the country she was part of and died with. All while old footage of East Germany streets and his mother and sister at summer camp is shown]].
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The movie while coming out in 2003 examines the transition from communism to capitalism in the former East Germany.This was an important issue in the 90's and early 2000's in Germany.For germans born after reunification this issue is at most a curiosity.shown]].
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The movie while coming out in 2003 examines the transition from communism to capitalism in the former East Germany.This was an important issue in the 90's and early 2000's in Germany.For germans born after reunification this issue is at most a curiosity.
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* TearJerker: Several moments, but the biggest is the ending, [[spoiler: when Alex and the others hold a funeral for his mother and he comments on how he'll remember her and the country she was part of and died with. All while old footage of East Germany streets and his mother and sister at summer camp is shown]].
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* TearJerker: Several moments, but the biggest is the ending, [[spoiler: when Alex and the others hold a funeral for his mother and he comments on how he'll remember her and the country she was part of and died with. All while old footage of East Germany streets and his mother and sister at summer camp is shown]].shown]].
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The movie while coming out in 2003 examines the transition from communism to capitalism in the former East Germany.This was an important issue in the 90's and early 2000's in Germany.For germans born after reunification this issue is at most a curiosity.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The movie while coming out in 2003 examines the transition from communism to capitalism in the former East Germany.This was an important issue in the 90's and early 2000's in Germany.For germans born after reunification this issue is at most a curiosity.
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* LoveItOrHateIt: The film got a lot of positive reviews from people familiar with TheThemeParkVersion of the GDR, but even then found some criticism for portraying what was supposedly a run down dystopia in a favorable light at times. People who actually lived in the GDR tend to hate it for its often inaccurate portrayal of many things or, seeing as it's a comedy, failing of portraying most of the real problems many East Germans faced when their country and society disappeared basically overnight (the job crisis and resulting mass-poverty being a massive one that the movie ''entirely ignores'' with the exception of showing unemployed adults and some rather unsavory rock n roll parties). Even then the film is popular among the East German ostalgie movement for showing that there were people who legitimately loved their own socialist nation. BaseBreaker indeed.
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* LoveItOrHateIt: The film got a lot of positive reviews from people familiar with TheThemeParkVersion of the GDR, but even then found some criticism for portraying what was supposedly a run down dystopia in a favorable light at times. People who actually lived in the GDR tend to hate it for its often inaccurate portrayal of many things or, seeing as it's a comedy, failing of portraying most of the real problems many East Germans faced when their country and society disappeared basically overnight (the job crisis and resulting mass-poverty being a massive one that the movie ''entirely ignores'' with the exception of showing unemployed adults and some rather unsavory rock n roll parties). Even then the film is popular among the East German ostalgie movement for showing that there were people who legitimately loved their own socialist nation. BaseBreaker indeed.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: To what extent was Alex's charade done out of love and overzealous concern for his mother, versus nostalgia for the past and his suddenly-lost country?
* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Assuming the cab driver really ''is'' supposed to be Sigmund Jähn, this could count. In real life, Jähn had managed to work as a freelance consultant for the German Aerospace Center (DLR) following reunification in 1990, prior to which he was in the East German army where he had risen to the rank of Major General, hardly making him likely to be as down on his luck as the movie suggests.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: During [[spoiler:'President' Jähn]]'s address to the nation, the national anthem of East Germany plays in the background, and then swells to a crescendo as the scene shifts [[spoiler:to the Reunification celebrations]].
* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Assuming the cab driver really ''is'' supposed to be Sigmund Jähn, this could count. In real life, Jähn had managed to work as a freelance consultant for the German Aerospace Center (DLR) following reunification in 1990, prior to which he was in the East German army where he had risen to the rank of Major General, hardly making him likely to be as down on his luck as the movie suggests.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: During [[spoiler:'President' Jähn]]'s address to the nation, the national anthem of East Germany plays in the background, and then swells to a crescendo as the scene shifts [[spoiler:to the Reunification celebrations]].
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: To what extent was Alex's charade done out of love and overzealous concern for his mother, versus nostalgia for the past and his suddenly-lost country?
*ArtisticLicenseHistory: Assuming the cab driver really ''is'' supposed to be Sigmund Jähn, this could count. In real life, Jähn had managed to work as a freelance consultant for the German Aerospace Center (DLR) following reunification in 1990, prior to which he was in the East German army where he had risen to the rank of Major General, hardly making him likely to be as down on his luck as the movie suggests.
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* AcceptableTargets: Punk culture, if a tasteless party Alex and his girlfriend attend is anything to go by.
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* LoveItOrHateIt: The film got a lot of positive reviews from people familiar with TheThemeParkVersion of the GDR. GDR, but even then found some criticism for portraying what was supposedly a run down dystopia in a favorable light at times. People who actually lived in the GDR tend to hate it for its often inaccurate portrayal of many things or, seeing as it's a comedy, failing of portraying most of the real problems many East Germans faced when their country and society disappeared basicly basically overnight (the job crisis and resulting mass-poverty being a massive one that the movie ''entirely ignores'').ignores'' with the exception of showing unemployed adults and some rather unsavory rock n roll parties). Even then the film is popular among the East German ostalgie movement for showing that there were people who legitimately loved their own socialist nation. BaseBreaker indeed.
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Assuming the cab driver really ''is'' supposed to be Sigmund Jähn, this could count. In real life, Jähn had managed to work as a freelance consultant for the German Aerospace Center (DLR) following reunification in 1990, though what he was doing ''just before'' reunification seems uncertain.
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Assuming the cab driver really ''is'' supposed to be Sigmund Jähn, this could count. In real life, Jähn had managed to work as a freelance consultant for the German Aerospace Center (DLR) following reunification in 1990, though what prior to which he was doing ''just before'' reunification seems uncertain.in the East German army where he had risen to the rank of Major General, hardly making him likely to be as down on his luck as the movie suggests.
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mo59IyQbro&list=RD6mo59IyQbro#t=3 The main theme]], which plays when Alex's sneaks out and sees for herself how Berlin has changed.
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mo59IyQbro&list=RD6mo59IyQbro#t=3 The main theme]], which plays when Alex's mother sneaks out and sees for herself how Berlin has changed.
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** And the short, [[TearJerker but touching]], piano piece at the beginning and end of the film.
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mo59IyQbro&list=RD6mo59IyQbro#t=3 The main theme]], which plays when Alex's sneaks out and sees for herself how Berlin has changed.
** And the short, [[TearJerker but touching]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RxkxCj4cpc piano piece at the beginning and end of thefilm.film]] (Summer '78).
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: During [[spoiler:'President' Jähn]]'s address to the nation, the national anthem of East Germany plays in the background, and then swells to a crescendo as the scene shifts [[spoiler:to the Reunification celebrations]].
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: During [[spoiler:'President' Jähn]]'s address to the nation, the national anthem of East Germany plays in the background, and then swells to a crescendo as the scene shifts [[spoiler:to the Reunification celebrations]].celebrations]].
** And the short, [[TearJerker but touching]], piano piece at the beginning and end of the film.
* TearJerker: Several moments, but the biggest is the ending, [[spoiler: when Alex and the others hold a funeral for his mother and he comments on how he'll remember her and the country she was part of and died with. All while old footage of East Germany streets and his mother and sister at summer camp is shown]].
** And the short, [[TearJerker but touching]], piano piece at the beginning and end of the film.
* TearJerker: Several moments, but the biggest is the ending, [[spoiler: when Alex and the others hold a funeral for his mother and he comments on how he'll remember her and the country she was part of and died with. All while old footage of East Germany streets and his mother and sister at summer camp is shown]].
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