History YMMV / GirlsGeneration

* FanPreferredCouple: [=TaeNy=] (Taeyeon x Tiffany). Just try searching up SNSD fanfiction; chances are, at least half of them is [=TaeNy=]. Even their own agency seems to know how popular it is and makes use of it (Lost in Love duet anyone?). It has been utterly sunk as of the revelation that Taeyeon was dating [=EXO=]'s Baekhyun and Tiffany dating 2PM's Nickhun for a time. Reaction has been mixed to negative.)

** Yoona. Did she gone into a decline ever since Sooyoung "replaced" her as third best dancer and best actress of the group, or is she still at the same level she always was? Will her acting ever improve, or is being pretty (and that in itself is also a VERY divisive topic) the only thing she can be good at?

* AmericansHateTingle: Out of the triple summer singles released in 2015, "Party" is the best received with the Korean public. International fans are vocal in their hate of the song, having compared it with a song for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT9GouJDzss a doll commercial]], preferring instead "You Think".

** How much effort [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTtNu1GBujo the group themselves]] used to put/are putting into their performances is an incredibly hot debate in the fandom.

* FanPreferredCouple: [=TaeNy=] (Taeyeon x Tiffany). Just try searching up SNSD fanfiction; chances are, at least half of them is [=TaeNy=]. Even their own agency seems to know how popular it is and makes use of it (Lost in Love duet anyone?). It has been utterly sunk as of the revelation that Taeyeon was dating [=EXO=]'s Baekhyun and Tiffany dating 2PM's Nickhun for a time. Reaction has been... [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment mixed to negative]].)

* [[Un-person]]: Ever since her departure from Girls' Generation, Jessica has gotten this treatment from some SONEs. Often Jessica is strategically blocked or cropped from group images that originally featured her and her role in the group when she was still a member is sometimes downplayed

** Since Jessica departed the group, the so-called Soshi Bond [[note]]FanNickname referring to a supposedly really close relationship between group members[[/note]] has taken a hit. A good portion of [=SONEs=] no longer believe in it, pointing out that there are definitely cliques among the group. The most obvious (and notorious) one is Tiffany and Taeyeon being the most obvious and notorious, which made [=TaeTiSeo=] sometimes come across as a bit awkward, as Seohyun was not part of their clique and it shows. Music videos featuring the trio tended to focus almost exclusively on [=TaeNy=], leaving Seohyun with barely any screentime and often [[http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2882/6752/original.jpg?w=600&h terrible styling]]. It's also very evident when the group gives public interviews.

* Unperson: Ever since her departure from Girls' Generation, Jessica has gotten this treatment from some SONEs. Often Jessica is strategically blocked or cropped from group images taken from when she was a member and her role in the group whe she was still a member is downplayed by some people

%%* AwardSnub: Despite international fans agree "You Think" and to a lesser extent, "Lion Heart" are good songs, they have failed to capture the interest of the Korean public resulting in a very poor charting, one of the worst in [=SNSD=] history (only "Visual Dreams" did worse). Subverted in that "Lion Heart" wound up climbing back up the charts and won SNSD several awards.

* BrokenBase
** A very mild version, when Tiffany announced in mid 2013 that there would be more singles by [=TaeTiSeo=]. Some Sones were delighted, others were unhappy, feeling the trio were already overexposed especially since "Mr. Mr" already focused greatly on just those three, and some went as far as to call them "[=TaeTiSeo=] feat. Jessica and some other random girls". It doesn't help that it followed Yuri and Hyoyeon announcing that there would be new subunits (and Yuri teased that the next subunit would be [=YoonYulSic=] (Yoona, Yuri and Jessica), thus implying that the final subunit would be [=HyoSunSoo=] (Hyoyeon, Sunny and Sooyoung)). These subunits never materialized, although and while it was thought that subunits might be scuppered entirely following Jessica's departure, [=TaeTiSeo=] released more singles.
*** The reaction to [=TaeTiSeo=] getting their own reality show "The [=TaeTiSeo=]", which debuted before their second mini album "Holler", was very split. Some Sones felt this was an extremely stupid move - especially after Taeyeon's dating scandal - and were generally tired of all the attention being focused on those three. Others didn't see a problem with it, saying it was good that Taeyeon isn't shying away from being in the spotlight.

** Since Jessica was kicked out of the group, the so-called Soshi Bond [[note]]FanNickname referring to a supposedly really close relationship between group members[[/note]] has taken a hit. Even [=SONEs=] don't believe in it anymore, saying instead there are definitely cliques among the group, with the one between Tiffany and Taeyeon being the most obvious and notorious. The two are part of the [=TTS=] subunit along with Seohyun, who is not part of their clique and it shows. Music videos featuring the trio tend to focus almost exclusively on [=TaeNy=], leaving Seohyun with barely any screentime and often [[http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2882/6752/original.jpg?w=600&h terrible styling]]. It's also very evident when the group gives public interviews.

* FandomRivalry
** Most notably with [=ELFs=], Music/SuperJunior's fandom. Which is pretty ironic, as both groups are from the same company and support each other very much.

* FanPreferredCouple
** [=TaeNy=] (Taeyeon x Tiffany). Just try searching up SNSD fanfiction; chances are, at least half of them is [=TaeNy=]. Even their own agency seems to know how popular it is and makes use of it (Lost in Love duet anyone?). It has been utterly sunk as of the revelation that Taeyeon was dating [=EXO=]'s Baekhyun and Tiffany dating 2PM's Nickhun for a time. Reaction has been... [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment mixed to negative]].)

* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff
** Hyoyeon enjoys a lot more popularity in the west, and member Sooyoung is particularly beloved in Japan. In Korea, the usual top favourites are Taeyeon and Yoona, with Hyoyeon and Sooyoung ranking a lot lower in popularity (but still being intensely popular, being members of the National Girl Group).

* HarsherInHindsight
** During a segment of Star Golden Bell, one of the [=MCs=] had to guess whose mother was the woman who they had invited. One of the options was Tiffany. In fact, as soon as she appeared, the MC started to think that it had to be Tiffany's, since they really looked alike. All of this happened, of course, before it was revealed that [[TearJerker Tiffany's mother passed away before her debut]].
*** Another Tiffany related one. She was/is the target of body shaming and mockery over her dance skills, but little did people know that she actually has scoliosis that used to be so bad that she almost didn't debut.

* MemeticMutation:
** "Gee" has become one within the ''VideoGame/StarCraft'' community due to the line "Gee gee gee gee, baby baby baby" resembling "GG"; short for good game, typed near or at the end of a match. G-Dragon of Music/BigBang also [[ShoutOut mentioned it]] in his song "Leaders": "My name is G-G-G baby baby baby GD GD baby baby." And then Aram of G.I. (Global Icon) had a part in their debut song that went "G - G - G - G.I.".

* {{Squick}}: It was revealed that a 46-year-old man had been pretending to be a video director for SM. This, uh, "job" of his led him to do things that were ''many'' leaps and bounds beyond the usual creep.

** He also posted badly edited photos of himself and "official" ID cards (with blatant spelling mistakes and artists listed on the cards whom didn't even belong to SM). It's unclear if he really did work for SM as people have mentioned that, while they did indeed see him at various K-Pop events, his behaviour was very odd (unlike the usual SM representative, he wasn't wearing identification, was wandering around and not doing anything etc). Even when someone from Globalone studios posted a message on his wall telling him not to associate himself with the studio, he promptly deleted it and blocked her. At the very least, Blevins abused his position as an SM staffer.
** Even after he was finally brought to the attention of SM and was supposedly shut down, his profile has still been spotted. And not only does he still has several fake profiles, he is apparently dating/married to a woman who has changed her display name to "Seohyun Blevins". It's ''incredibly'' squicky.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8r-SCbMKVc The trailer]] of their 1st Japanese album. The songs are fine, the visuals are...odd.

*** The reaction to [=TaeTiSeo=] getting their own reality show "The [=TaeTiSeo=]", which debuted before their second mini album "Holler", was very split. Some Sones felt this is an extremely stupid move especially after Taeyeon's dating scandal, and were tired of all the attention being focused on those three, while others didn't see a problem with it, saying it's good that Taeyeon isn't shying away from being in the spotlight.

** Since Jessica was kicked out of the group, the so-called Soshi Bond [[note]]FanNickname referring to a supposedly really close relationship between group members[[/note]] has taken a hit. Even [=SONEs=] don't believe in it anymore, saying instead there are definitely cliques among the group, with the one between Tiffany and Tayeon being the most obvious and notorious. The two are part of the [=TTS=] subunit along with Seohyun, who is not part of their clique and it shows. Music videos featuring the trio tend to focus almost exclusively on [=TaeNy=], leaving Seohyun with barely any screentime and often [[http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2882/6752/original.jpg?w=600&h terrible styling]]. It's also very evident when the group gives public interviews.

** A very mild version, when Tiffany announced in mid 2013 that there would be more singles by [=TaeTiSeo=]. Some Sones were delighted, others were unhappy, feeling the trio were already overexposed especially since "Mr. Mr" already focused greatly on just those three, and some went as far as to call them "[=TaeTiSeo=] feat. Jessica and some other random girls". It doesn't help that it followed Yuri and Hyoyeon announcing that there would be new subunits (and Yuri teased that the next subunit would be [=YoonYulSic=] (Yoona, Yuri and Jessica). Since then nothing more has happened, and while it was thought that subunits might be scuppered entirely following Jessica's departure, [=TaeTiSeo=] have released more singles.

** A very mild version, when Tiffany announced in mid 2013 that there would be more singles by [=TaeTiSeo=]. Some Sones were delighted, others were unhappy, feeling the trio were already overexposed especially since "Mr. Mr" already focused greatly on just those three, and some went as far as to call them "TaeTiSeo feat. Jessica and some other random girls". It doesn't help that it followed Yuri and Hyoyeon announcing that there would be new subunits (and Yuri teased that the next subunit would be [=YoonYulSic=] (Yoona, Yuri and Jessica). Since then nothing more has happened, and while it was thought that subunits might be scuppered entirely following Jessica's departure, [=TaeTiSeo=] have released more singles.

* BaseBreakingCharacter: Each member has both very vocal supporters and anti-fans within the fandom.

** was Tiffany a good singer with an adorable and charming personality, or an annoying attention-seeker who never shut up and let the other girls have a chance in the spotlight? Is her going to her fellow members' productions and cheering for them an awesome way to show support, or is it just her being obnoxious and over the top?

** Taeyeon, especially during the time when she dated Baekhyun. Did she do wrong when it was revealed she lied to her fans about her instagram posts, or was this yet another case of fans being way too possessive over a human being? Is her voice as good as it has always been or has it become raspy and unstable? Is her stage attitude unprofessional or are things taken out of context? Was her "anti-fan hunt" reasonable or is this a sign of instability?

** Sunny. Talented and adorkable with an extra helping of badass determinator or two-faced annoying attention-seeker who only got into SNSD because her uncle is the founder of SM Entertainment? [[https://33.media.tumblr.com/c3bc638c275cac4f6f9a7eb9587a7e76/tumblr_nt9dsdob3M1r3hdhfo2_540.gif Are her recent lackluster performances a case of laziness]], her chronic knee problems that seem to be getting worse with every comeback, or both?
** Is Tiffany a good singer with an adorable and charming personality, or is she an annoying attention-seeker who needs to shut up and let the other girls have a chance in the spotlight? Is her going to her fellow members' productions and cheering for them an awesome way to show support, or is it just her being obnoxious and over the top?
** Hyoyeon. Awesome badass dancer and rapper or useless, ugly and can't sing? Can she even dance well anymore, or has she gotten rusty as the group's choreography became more simplistic?
** Sooyoung. Is she deserving of more lines and attention, or does she add nothing to SNSD and only got into the group because her father is rich? And actress Sooyoung, who doesn't meet the beauty standards of Korean actresses[[note]]Korean actresses are highly regarded and are expected to have top visuals, which Sooyoung apparently doesn't have due to "having that ugly Southeast-Asian look (i.e. darker skin and non-traditional facial features)" -- although there is ''much'' to be said about this sort of [[ValuesDissonance colorism and racism]] among Koreans[[/note]] yet has been praised by veteran actors for her award-winning skill - is such "ugliness" from an actress unacceptable, or should netizens see past that for her acclaimed talent?
** Yoona. Has she gone into a decline ever since Sooyoung "replaced" her as third best dancer and best actress of the group, or is she still at the same level she always was? Will her acting ever improve, or is being pretty (and that in itself is also a VERY divisive topic) the only thing she can be good at?

** Jessica. Lazy and unprofessional or down to earth and realistic? Was she kicked out by SM for no reason, or did she screw up her priorities in favour of her boyfriend and her company? Is the group better off without her, or have they effectively crippled themselves?

* BreakupBreakout: While the group hasn't ''officially'' broken up, there's the obvious choice of Taeyeon, and also Hyoyeon, who's been working as a DJ, has her own solo career and appeared on a few reality shows where she impressed the audience and judges with her skills. Not bad for someone who used to be considered one of the "useless" members!

** Sunny. Talented and adorkable with an extra helping of badass determinator or two-faced annoying attention-seeker who only got into SNSD because her uncle is the founder of SM Entertainment? [[https://33.media.tumblr.com/c3bc638c275cac4f6f9a7eb9587a7e76/tumblr_nt9dsdob3M1r3hdhfo2_540.gif Are her recent lackluster performances a case of laziness]], her chronic knee problems that seem to be getting worse with every comeback (especially with Catch Me If You Can, you can see Sunny limping and having to be helped off stage by the members), or both?

** Yoona. Has she gone into a decline ever since Sooyoung "replaced" her as lead dancer, and best actress of the group, or is she still at the same level she always was? Will her acting ever improve, or is being pretty (and that in itself is also a VERY divisive topic) the only thing she can be good at?

** There was the whole CARTEL incident, a.k.a Black Ocean 2008. Cassies ([[Music/DongBangShinKi DBSK]] fans), [=ELFs=] (SJ fans) and [=TripleS=] (Music/{{SS501}} fans) turned off their lightsticks at a concert for SNSD and... behaved badly. Suffice it to say that ''nobody'' was innocent - Sones apparently had a couple issues themselves - and that is all that we will say about that!

** Their discography since ''The Boys'' album is divisive to say the least. Before that, SNSD's songs were seen as consistently good. 'Gee' was their breakout song, but the pre-Gee era in retrospect is seen as a climb to the top, meaning always improving. Post-Gee albums were also well received, with 'Genie' being considered not only their best era, but best K-Idol era ever. And then "The Boys" came. This is seen as the beginning of the fall.

** A very mild version, when Tiffany announced in mid 2013 that there would be more singles by [=TaeTiSeo=]. Some Sones were delighted, others were unhappy, feeling the trio were already overexposed especially since "Mr. Mr" already focused greatly on just those three, and some went as far as to call them "Taeyeon and Tiffany feat. Seohyun, Jessica and some other random girls". It doesn't help that it followed Yuri and Hyoyeon announcing that there would be new subunits (and Yuri teased that the next subunit would be [=YoonYulSic=] (Yoona, Yuri and Jessica). Since then nothing more has happened, and while it was thought that subunits might be scuppered entirely following Jessica's departure, [=TaeTiSeo=] have released more singles.

** "I Got A Boy." The changes in tempo and even style made it a polarizing song among the fanbase.
** Whether or not the members should be calling Tiffany 'pig-Fany'. On the one hand, fans have argued that the girls mean no ill will towards her, and that to an extent, Tiffany doesn't mind the nickname, seeing as how she dressed as a pig at her birthday party. On the other hand, those who don't the nickname argue that the it comes from insulting implications and that Tiffany herself has expressed discomfort and annoyance at being called that, as well as the fact that the main perpetrators (Yoona and Sooyoung) not only eat more than she does but are in fact praised for it, making them come off as hypocrites. Regardless, both camps are in agreement that fans themselves should not be using the nickname at all, since antis have already picked it up and use it to bash and insult Tiffany.
[[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Western music reviewers have appreciated the effort of trying to sound different.]]

** Taeyeon, especially during the time when she dated Baekhyun. Did she do wrong when it was revealed she lied to her fans about her instagram posts, or were the fans too possessive of a human being? Is her voice as good as it has always been or has it become raspy and unstable? Is her stage attitude unprofessional or are things taken out of context? Was her "anti-fan hunt" reasonable or is this a sign of instability?

** Sunny. Talented and adorkable with an extra helping of badass determinator or two-faced annoying attention-seeker who only got into SNSD because her uncle is the founder of SM Entertainment? [[https://33.media.tumblr.com/c3bc638c275cac4f6f9a7eb9587a7e76/tumblr_nt9dsdob3M1r3hdhfo2_540.gif Are her recent lackluster performances a case of laziness]], her chronic knee problems, or both?
** Is Tiffany a good singer with an adorable and charming personality, or is she an annoying attention-seeker who needs to shut up and let the other girls have a chance in the spotlight? Is her going to her fellow members' productions and cheering for them an awesome way to show support, or is it just her being obnoxious and over the top? Her neglecting of Seohyun in [=TaeTiSeo=] variety appearances to bait [=TaeNy=] shippers has not gone without backlash by international fans either.

** Yoona. Has she gone into a decline ever since Sooyoung "replaced" her as lead dancer, and best actress of the group, or is she still at the same level she always was? Will her acting ever improve, or is being pretty the only thing she can be good at?

*** The reaction to [=TaeTiSeo=] getting their own reality show "The [=TaeTiSeo=]", which debuted before their second mini album "Holler", was very split. Some Sones felt this is an extremely stupid move especially after Taeyeon's dating scandal, and were tired of all the attention being focused on those three (especially Tiffany, whose alleged attention-seeking tendencies were turning her into the black sheep of the group), while others didn't see a problem with it, saying it's good that Taeyeon isn't shying away from being in the spotlight.

** Whether or not the members should be calling Tiffany 'pig-Fany'. On the one hand, fans have argued that the girls mean no ill will towards her, and that to an extent, Tiffany doesn't mind the nickname, seeing as how she dressed as a pig at her birthday party. On the other hand, those who don't the nickname argue that the it comes from insulting implications and that Tiffany herself has expressed discomfort and annoyance at being called that, as well as the fact that the main perpetrators (Yoona and Sooyoung) not only eat more than she does but are in fact praised for it, making them come off as hypocrites. Regardless, both camps are in agreement that fans should not be using the nickname at all, since antis have already picked it up.

** Also between [[Music/TwoNEOne 2NE1]] fans (Blackjacks) and Sones. Arguments mostly about the looks of the members of each group, and which group is more "talented". Just look at any of the comments in each of their music videos - it's enough to make you want to smack them all upside the head.