History YMMV / FullmetalAlchemist

17th Jul '16 2:13:36 PM AnneOfCleves
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** Envy, Wrath and Rose are among the most polarizing characters. In the case of the latter, this is probably why she suffers DieForOurShip more often than Ed's other love interests (with the exception of [[TheScrappy her double]] in ''Conqueror of Shamballa''). In Wrath's case, he and Pride are not well liked as "replacement Homunculi" (ironically, [[spoiler:they're little more than a flip-flop of the manga version, where ''Wrath'' is the president and ''Pride'' is a creepy little kid]]), and Pride/[[spoiler:King Bradley]] in particular is hated for [[spoiler:going through a mix of serious BadassDecay and AdaptationalVillainy]], and overall not getting much of a backstory. Wrath does have a substantial numbers of defenders, though.

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** Envy, Wrath and Rose are among the most polarizing characters. In the case of the latter, this is probably why she suffers DieForOurShip more often than Ed's other love interests (with the exception of [[TheScrappy her double]] in ''Conqueror of Shamballa''). In Wrath's case, he and Pride are not well liked as "replacement Homunculi" (ironically, [[spoiler:they're little more than almost a flip-flop of the manga version, where ''Wrath'' is the president and ''Pride'' is a creepy little kid]]), and Pride/[[spoiler:King Bradley]] in particular is hated for [[spoiler:going through a mix of serious BadassDecay and AdaptationalVillainy]], and overall not getting much of a backstory. Wrath does have a substantial numbers of defenders, though.
17th Jul '16 2:11:41 PM AnneOfCleves
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** [[spoiler:Hughes's]] death is one of the most well known in anime and almost everyone who has gotten into the series since the mid 2000s knows it. It was to the extent that Funimation ads for the 2003 series DVDs would spoil it.

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** [[spoiler:Hughes's]] death is one of the most well known in anime and almost everyone who has gotten into the series since the mid 2000s knows it. It was to the extent that Funimation ads for the 2003 series DVDs [=DVD=]s would spoil it.
17th Jul '16 2:11:03 PM AnneOfCleves
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** On top of Rose, Winry has also been on the receiving end of anger from YaoiFangirls because of this trope - although the fact that she's close to both Elric brothers means some of them will just [[ShipMates ship her with the other one]] instead.

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** On top of Rose, Winry has also been on the receiving end of anger from YaoiFangirls because of this trope - although the fact that she's close to both Elric brothers means some most of them will just [[ShipMates ship her with the other one]] instead.



* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler:Hughe's]] death is one of the most well known in anime and almost everyone who has gotten into the series since the mid 2000s knows it.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Ed. Al. Roy.
* LGBTFanbase: The series is very popular with gay fans of the BaraGenre due to a preponderance of characters who fit TheBear and BigBeautifulMan archetypes. Ironically this is the result of AuthorAppeal on the part of the mangaka, who is a [[PeripheryDemographic straight female]].

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* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler:Hughe's]] ItWasHisSled:
** [[spoiler:Hughes's]]
death is one of the most well known in anime and almost everyone who has gotten into the series since the mid 2000s knows it. It was to the extent that Funimation ads for the 2003 series DVDs would spoil it.
** Thanks to all the aforementioned memes, most people go in knowing about Shou Tucker turning his daughter into a chimera.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Ed. Al. Roy.
Ed and Roy, and to a lesser extent Al, are the main ones.
* LGBTFanbase: The series is very popular with gay fans of the BaraGenre due to a preponderance of characters who fit TheBear and BigBeautifulMan archetypes. Ironically this is the result of AuthorAppeal on the part of the mangaka, who is a [[PeripheryDemographic straight female]].woman]].
17th Jul '16 2:07:24 PM AnneOfCleves
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** Izumi is another example like Scar, where fans are deeply divided on which version does her better. She gets more character development in 2003, and is more a thematically-important character there, but she is less important to the larger plot. She still does a ton of ass-kicking, but isn't involved in the finale like she was in the manga. Some fans also resent the larger role her loss of her son [[spoiler: Wrath]] plays in her arc, or [[spoiler: her death]] before the movie. On the other hand, 2003 fans often think manga/Brotherhood just turned her into an ActionGirl, and short-shifted her character development entirely. Another common complaint is how version turned her illness into a gag. Overall, it's to the extent that both fandoms often accuse the other version of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter with her.

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** Izumi is another example like Scar, where fans are deeply divided on which version does her better. She gets more character development Fans of the manga or Brotherhood anime often complain about her smaller role in 2003, and is more a thematically-important character there, but the plot of the 2003 anime (though she is less important to the larger plot. She still does a ton lot of ass-kicking, but isn't involved in the finale like she was in the manga. Some fans also resent the larger role ass-kicking), how much of her loss of arc is about losing her son [[spoiler: Wrath]] plays in and him coming back as Wrath]], or her arc, or [[spoiler: her death]] before the movie. On Fans of the other hand, 2003 fans anime often think manga/Brotherhood just turned her into an ActionGirl, and complain that [[FanNickname Mangahood]] short-shifted her character development entirely. Another common complaint is how arc and thematic importance, and her getting to participate in bigger fights doesn't really do that justice. Or just that that version turned treated her illness into like a gag. Overall, it's to the extent that both fandoms often accuse the other version of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter with her.Izumi.
17th Jul '16 2:04:13 PM AnneOfCleves
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** The differences in certain characters between the 2003 anime and the manga/Brotherhood tend to make them lightning rods for the "which version is better" debate. The biggest one of these is Scar. Many people who prefer the manga and Brotherhood despise that Scar [[spoiler: never gives up violence or fully joins Ed and Al's side]] in 2003, or that [[spoiler: he dies]] in that version, in a way that brings those issues to the forefront. On the other hand, a lot of 2003 fans think this makes him a more interesting and morally-complex character, and might even argue that his portrayal in the manga/Brotherhood is [[http://amarielah.tumblr.com/post/44722439761/the-problematic-portrayal-of-minority-characters racially insensitive]]. The 2003 section talks about some of the other ones, like Izumi Curtis and several of the homunculi.

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** The differences in certain characters between the 2003 anime and the manga/Brotherhood tend to make them lightning rods for the "which version is better" debate. The biggest one of these is Scar. Many people who prefer the manga and Brotherhood despise that Scar [[spoiler: never gives up violence or fully joins Ed and Al's side]] in 2003, or that [[spoiler: he dies]] in that version, in a way that brings those issues to the forefront. On the other hand, a lot of 2003 fans think this makes him a more interesting and morally-complex character, and might even argue that his portrayal in the manga/Brotherhood is [[http://amarielah.tumblr.com/post/44722439761/the-problematic-portrayal-of-minority-characters racially insensitive]]. The 2003 section talks about some insensitive]].
** Izumi is another example like Scar, where fans are deeply divided on which version does her better. She gets more character development in 2003, and is more a thematically-important character there, but she is less important to the larger plot. She still does a ton
of ass-kicking, but isn't involved in the finale like she was in the manga. Some fans also resent the larger role her loss of her son [[spoiler: Wrath]] plays in her arc, or [[spoiler: her death]] before the movie. On the other ones, like Izumi Curtis hand, 2003 fans often think manga/Brotherhood just turned her into an ActionGirl, and several of short-shifted her character development entirely. Another common complaint is how version turned her illness into a gag. Overall, it's to the homunculi.extent that both fandoms often accuse the other version of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter with her.



** Izumi's character arc gets this quite a bit. She gets more character development in 2003, and is more a thematically-important character here, but she is less important to the plot, including not participating in the finale at all (which she is a major part of in the manga and Brotherhood). Some fans also resent that her motivation was so centered around losing her infant son [[spoiler: who comes back in the form of Wrath]]. Overall, it's to the extent that both fandoms often accuse the other version of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter with her.
17th Jul '16 1:56:51 PM AnneOfCleves
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** The differences in certain characters between the 2003 anime and the manga/Brotherhood tend to make them lightning rods for the "which version is better" debate. For some examples: take Izumi Curtis, or many of the homunculi. (See the 2003 anime's section on this trope for more on them.) The biggest one of these is Scar. Many people who prefer the manga and Brotherhood despise that Scar [[spoiler: never gives up violence or fully joins Ed and Al's side]] in 2003, or that [[spoiler: he dies]] in that version, in a way that brings those issues to the forefront. On the other hand, a lot of 2003 fans think this makes him a more interesting and morally-complex character, and might even argue that his portrayal in the manga/Brotherhood is [[http://amarielah.tumblr.com/post/44722439761/the-problematic-portrayal-of-minority-characters racially insensitive]].

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** The differences in certain characters between the 2003 anime and the manga/Brotherhood tend to make them lightning rods for the "which version is better" debate. For some examples: take Izumi Curtis, or many of the homunculi. (See the 2003 anime's section on this trope for more on them.) The biggest one of these is Scar. Many people who prefer the manga and Brotherhood despise that Scar [[spoiler: never gives up violence or fully joins Ed and Al's side]] in 2003, or that [[spoiler: he dies]] in that version, in a way that brings those issues to the forefront. On the other hand, a lot of 2003 fans think this makes him a more interesting and morally-complex character, and might even argue that his portrayal in the manga/Brotherhood is [[http://amarielah.tumblr.com/post/44722439761/the-problematic-portrayal-of-minority-characters racially insensitive]]. The 2003 section talks about some of the other ones, like Izumi Curtis and several of the homunculi.



* BrokenBase: Members of the Fandom are generally VERY vocal about which series [[SeriousBusiness they prefer over the other]]. Mention your preference over either can, and will provoke [[BerserkButton very passionate responses]] asserting the contrary.

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* BrokenBase: Members of the Fandom fandom are generally VERY vocal about which series [[SeriousBusiness they prefer over the other]]. Mention your preference over either can, and will provoke [[BerserkButton very passionate responses]] asserting the contrary.
17th Jul '16 1:56:02 PM AnneOfCleves
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** The differences in certain characters between the versions tend to make them lightning rods for the "2003 vs. Brotherhood" debate: for example, Izumi Curtis, and many of the homunculi. (See the 2003 anime's section on this trope for more on them.) The biggest one of these is Scar. Many people who prefer the manga and Brotherhood despise that Scar [[spoiler: never gives up violence or fully joins Ed and Al's side]] in 2003, or that [[spoiler: he dies]] in that version, in a way that brings those issues to the forefront. On the other hand, a lot of 2003 fans think this makes him a more interesting and morally-complex character, and might even argue that his portrayal in the manga/Brotherhood is [[http://amarielah.tumblr.com/post/44722439761/the-problematic-portrayal-of-minority-characters racially insensitive]].

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** The differences in certain characters between the versions 2003 anime and the manga/Brotherhood tend to make them lightning rods for the "2003 vs. Brotherhood" debate: for example, "which version is better" debate. For some examples: take Izumi Curtis, and or many of the homunculi. (See the 2003 anime's section on this trope for more on them.) The biggest one of these is Scar. Many people who prefer the manga and Brotherhood despise that Scar [[spoiler: never gives up violence or fully joins Ed and Al's side]] in 2003, or that [[spoiler: he dies]] in that version, in a way that brings those issues to the forefront. On the other hand, a lot of 2003 fans think this makes him a more interesting and morally-complex character, and might even argue that his portrayal in the manga/Brotherhood is [[http://amarielah.tumblr.com/post/44722439761/the-problematic-portrayal-of-minority-characters racially insensitive]].
14th Jul '16 2:27:31 PM Anddrix
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14th Jul '16 2:19:50 PM AnneOfCleves
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** Roy Mustang quotes the TheArtOfWar during his battle with Ed in episode 13 "Fullmetal vs. Flame."

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** Roy Mustang quotes the TheArtOfWar during his battle with Ed in episode 13 "Fullmetal vs. Flame."
14th Jul '16 2:17:28 PM AnneOfCleves
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* EvilIsSexy: Lust, obviously. And this canon's version of Kimblee has a ''huge'' number of fangirls.

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* EvilIsSexy: Lust, obviously.InUniverse in this case. And this canon's version of Kimblee has a ''huge'' number of fangirls.



** Lust. Even more so here, where she gets actual characterization and an arc, making her a fan favorite.

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** Lust. Even more so here, where she gets actual deeper characterization and an arc, making her a fan favorite.
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