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** [[spoiler:Jack's death. At first, he's only shot in the chest, but as he's trying to get away a {{Mook}} shoots him again. It's not clear how many times. Still, he falls to the ground screaming in pain and for his brothers, Bobby in particular, and you can hear him over the gunfire. The entire fight becomes a desperate attempt to get to him, only for Jack to die minutes later. Everyone breaks down. To drive the point home, after Jack's funeral Bobby looks up at the pictures on the wall, Jack's picture has a bullet hole through it.]]
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** [[spoiler:Jack's death. At first, he's only shot in the chest, but as he's trying to get away a {{Mook}} shoots him again. It's not clear how many times. Still, he falls to the ground screaming in pain and for his brothers, Bobby in particular, and you can hear him over the gunfire. The entire fight becomes a desperate attempt to get to him, only for Jack to die minutes later. Everyone breaks down. To drive the point home, after Jack's funeral funeral, Bobby looks up at the pictures on the wall, wall; Jack's picture has a bullet hole ''bullet hole'' through it.]]
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** [[spoiler: Green finds Fowler at a bar, reveals he knows what he's up to, gets violent on him and therefore establishes himself as a threat...and then turns his back to him and walks out, as if expecting Fowler won't follow and retaliate. Sure enough, Green ends up getting shot]].
** [[spoiler: Fowler himself isn't very good at keeping his head during his EngineeredPublicConfession. Once he realised Angel had him on a wire, he would surely know that such a thing is hardly an admission of guilt and given Angel broke into his house and assaulted him could easily have covered up by saying he was threatened into confessing]].
* TheWoobie: Jack is much more this trope than his brothers. He is not impulsive nor malicious, just seems to follow the steps of his brothers, and is likely to have been a good person if it were not for his childhood or life on the street. In addition, he is much more calm and sensitive than his older brothers, and it's implied that Jack had experienced a very traumatic childhood before Evelyn adopted him. And even worse, the discussions between his brothers often seem to make him uncomfortable. He's also constantly mocked in some deleted scenes. Not to mention that [[spoiler:he's the only character in the main cast who suffers a tragic death, taking several minutes to bleed out from a gunshot.]]
** [[spoiler: Green finds Fowler at a bar, reveals he knows what he's up to, gets violent on him and therefore establishes himself as a threat...and then turns his back to him and walks out, as if expecting Fowler won't follow and retaliate. Sure enough, Green ends up getting shot]].
** [[spoiler: Fowler himself isn't very good at keeping his head during his EngineeredPublicConfession. Once he realised Angel had him on a wire, he would surely know that such a thing is hardly an admission of guilt and given Angel broke into his house and assaulted him could easily have covered up by saying he was threatened into confessing]].
* TheWoobie: Jack is much more this trope than his brothers. He is not impulsive nor malicious, just seems to follow the steps of his brothers, and is likely to have been a good person if it were not for his childhood or life on the street. In addition, he is much more calm and sensitive than his older brothers, and it's implied that Jack had experienced a very traumatic childhood before Evelyn adopted him. And even worse, the discussions between his brothers often seem to make him uncomfortable. He's also constantly mocked in some deleted scenes. Not to mention that [[spoiler:he's the only character in the main cast who suffers a tragic death, taking several minutes to bleed out from a gunshot.]]
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** [[spoiler: Green finds Fowler at a bar, reveals he knows what he's up to, gets violent on him and therefore establishes himself as a threat...and then turns his back to him and walks out, as if expecting Fowler won't follow and retaliate. Sure enough, Green ends up getting shot]].
** [[spoiler: Fowler himself isn't very good at keeping his head during his EngineeredPublicConfession. Once he realised Angel had him on a wire, he would surely know that such a thing is hardly an admission of guilt and given Angel broke into his house and assaulted him could easily have covered up by saying he was threatened into confessing]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[spoiler: Jack. Poor Jack. It seems as if the film is going to give him some character development or a pivotal moment to contribute to avenging Evelyn since he's the youngest and most affected by Evelyn's death and is generally teased by his brothers, but then he's abruptly murdered before anything can come to fruition or serve as payoff for his inclusion in the story. Unfortunately, it makes him nothing more than an extra brother to be killed off to make the other three inconsolably angry with Victor Sweet. It's sadly wasted potential, meant only to wring tears out of the audience instead of allowing Jack to be a fully three dimensional brother.]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The four brothers, most specifically Bobby and Angel. Were they simply the result of traumatic childhoods and then living on the streets as thugs (including their mother's death)? Or are they really NotSoDifferent from the antagonists? This can be justified by the fact that they [[EvilVersusEvil all lead a life of crime and that killing is as normal as breathing for them.]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The four brothers, most specifically Bobby and Angel. Were they simply the result of traumatic childhoods and then living on the streets as thugs (including their mother's death)? Or are they really NotSoDifferent from similar to the antagonists? This can be justified by the fact that they [[EvilVersusEvil all lead a life of crime and that killing is as normal as breathing for them.]]
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* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Jerry is noticeably less prominent than Bobby and Angel, but his actor received a lot of praise for the dramatic, OnlySaneMan performance he brought to the movie, as well las some BewareTheNiceOnes moments in the fights.
** Sofi, for providing some decent comic relief, and being genuinely cute with Angel at times.
** Jerry is noticeably less prominent than Bobby and Angel, but his actor received a lot of praise for the dramatic, OnlySaneMan performance he brought to the movie, as well las some BewareTheNiceOnes moments in the fights.
** Sofi, for providing some decent comic relief, and being genuinely cute with Angel at times.
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** All of the Mercer brothers have had pretty tough lives, but it can be inferred that these guys (or at least Bobby) were only kind to theirmother.mother and they can be sour and take-no prisoners in general. Still, things don't exactly get easier for them.
** Sweet's henchmen. Yes, they are gangland thugs but they have to put up with some [[BadBoss incredibly awful treatment]] from their boss. [[spoiler:Which of course contributes to their HazyFeelTurn.]]
** All of the Mercer brothers have had pretty tough lives, but it can be inferred that these guys (or at least Bobby) were only kind to their
** Sweet's henchmen. Yes, they are gangland thugs but they have to put up with some [[BadBoss incredibly awful treatment]] from their boss. [[spoiler:Which of course contributes to their HazyFeelTurn.]]
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* TheWoobie: Jack is much more this trope than his brothers. He is not impulsive nor malicious, just seems to follow the steps of his brothers, and is likely to have been a good person if it were not for his childhood or life on the street. In addition, he is much more calm and sensitive than his older brothers, and it's implied that Jack had experienced a very traumatic childhood before Evelyn adopted him. And even worse, the discussions between his brothers often seem to make him uncomfortable. He's also constantly mocked in some deleted scenes. Not to mention that he's the only character in the main cast who suffers a tragic death.
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* TheWoobie: Jack is much more this trope than his brothers. He is not impulsive nor malicious, just seems to follow the steps of his brothers, and is likely to have been a good person if it were not for his childhood or life on the street. In addition, he is much more calm and sensitive than his older brothers, and it's implied that Jack had experienced a very traumatic childhood before Evelyn adopted him. And even worse, the discussions between his brothers often seem to make him uncomfortable. He's also constantly mocked in some deleted scenes. Not to mention that he's [[spoiler:he's the only character in the main cast who suffers a tragic death.death, taking several minutes to bleed out from a gunshot.]]
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%%* ValuesDissonance:
** Bobby dishes a lot of homophobic taunts Jack's way, even though the latter doesn't appear to be gay, and is never called out for it. Casual homophobia and using the word gay as an insult was very common in the 2000s.
** The film seems to come down heavy in favor of torture and the JackBauerInterrogationTechnique - the most egregious example being Bobby refusing to call an ambulance on a man who's had such a nasty fall his bone is sticking out of his leg. The brothers never consider that their victims could simply be lying to make the torture stop or genuinely not know.
** Bobby dishes a lot of homophobic taunts Jack's way, even though the latter doesn't appear to be gay, and is never called out for it. Casual homophobia and using the word gay as an insult was very common in the 2000s.
** The film seems to come down heavy in favor of torture and the JackBauerInterrogationTechnique - the most egregious example being Bobby refusing to call an ambulance on a man who's had such a nasty fall his bone is sticking out of his leg. The brothers never consider that their victims could simply be lying to make the torture stop or genuinely not know.
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: The bar where Fowler shot Lt. Green is full of people. One of them should have been able to see them get in a disagreement and then heard the gun shots afterward. The biggest problem is that Lt. Green walked up to his police car to leave and Fowler shot him right next to it so shouldn't there be a security feed of him killing his own partner?]]
** It's mentioned the bar is one of Sweet's places.
** [[spoiler: Why didn't Fowler try to destroy the security tape and police report of him meeting with Evelyn Mercer? He wouldn't have been found out otherwise.]]
*** [[spoiler: He specifically mentions that he forgot about the newly installed surveillance cameras.]]
** It's mentioned the bar is one of Sweet's places.
** [[spoiler: Why didn't Fowler try to destroy the security tape and police report of him meeting with Evelyn Mercer? He wouldn't have been found out otherwise.]]
*** [[spoiler: He specifically mentions that he forgot about the newly installed surveillance cameras.]]
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* FridgeLogic: DesignatedHero: Bobby in particular is a violent, hot headed {{Jerkass}} who is a dick to his brothers and the only thing that makes him different from the bad guys is that the audience is supposed to root for him. He's also very quick to get violent on [[spoiler: The bar where Fowler shot Lt. Green is full of people. One of them should have been able to see them get Jerry and assume he's responsible for Evelyn's death, which the latter rightfully calls him out on]].
* FashionVictimVillain: Victor Sweet wears a fluffy white hat and fur coat for the climax that looks more like something worn in adisagreement and then heard the gun shots afterward. The biggest problem is that Lt. Green walked up to his police car to leave and Fowler shot him right next to it so shouldn't there be a security feed parody of him killing his own partner?]]
** It's mentioned the bar is one of Sweet's places.
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* FashionVictimVillain: Victor Sweet wears a fluffy white hat and fur coat for the climax that looks more like something worn in a
** It's mentioned the bar is one of Sweet's places.
** [[spoiler: Why didn't Fowler try to destroy the security tape and police report of him meeting with Evelyn Mercer? He wouldn't have been found out otherwise.]]
*** [[spoiler: He specifically mentions that he forgot about the newly installed surveillance cameras.]]
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Sofia Vergara pre-''Series/ModernFamily''.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: NarmCharm: Chiwetel Ejiofor's performance as Victor Sweet reads like 'middle class Londoner's imitation of a man from a Detroit ghetto' and would be completely silly, but it still manages to be compelling.
* OneSceneWonder:
** Taraji P Henson doesn't get much screen time as Jeremiah's wife Camille, but her charisma in the closing scenes almost makes you wish she'd been a main character.
** And of course Fionnuala Flanagan as Evelyn, who only appears in three scenes but makes you suitably as sad about her death as her sons are.
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** Sofia Vergara pre-''Series/ModernFamily''.
** Taraji P Henson a few years before her Oscar nominated role in ''Film/TheCuriousCaseOfBenjaminButton''.
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** Taraji P Henson doesn't get much screen time as Jeremiah's wife Camille, but her charisma in the closing scenes almost makes you wish she'd been a main character.
** And of course Fionnuala Flanagan as Evelyn, who only appears in three scenes but makes you suitably as sad about her death as her sons are.
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** Sofia Vergara pre-''Series/ModernFamily''.
** Taraji P Henson a few years before her Oscar nominated role in ''Film/TheCuriousCaseOfBenjaminButton''.
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** Hard-boiled Bobby crying alone in the bathroom after seeing his mother's room.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The film lightly touches on how Evelyn adopted the boys to save them from life on the street - all potentially interesting stories in their own right that could have been more compelling than a standard revenge plot. Evelyn herself is made into more of a symbol than a character.
* ValuesDissonance:
** Bobby dishes a lot of homophobic taunts Jack's way, even though the latter doesn't appear to be gay, and is never called out for it. Casual homophobia and using the word gay as an insult was very common in the 2000s.
** The film seems to come down heavy in favor of torture and the JackBauerInterrogationTechnique - the most egregious example being Bobby refusing to call an ambulance on a man who's had such a nasty fall his bone is sticking out of his leg. The brothers never consider that their victims could simply be lying to make the torture stop or genuinely not know.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** [[spoiler: Green finds Fowler at a bar, reveals he knows what he's up to, gets violent on him and therefore establishes himself as a threat...and then turns his back to him and walks out, as if expecting Fowler won't follow and retaliate. Sure enough, Green ends up getting shot]].
** [[spoiler: Fowler himself isn't very good at keeping his head during his EngineeredPublicConfession. Once he realised Angel had him on a wire, he would surely know that such a thing is hardly an admission of guilt and given Angel broke into his house and assaulted him could easily have covered up by saying he was threatened into confessing]].
* ValuesDissonance:
** Bobby dishes a lot of homophobic taunts Jack's way, even though the latter doesn't appear to be gay, and is never called out for it. Casual homophobia and using the word gay as an insult was very common in the 2000s.
** The film seems to come down heavy in favor of torture and the JackBauerInterrogationTechnique - the most egregious example being Bobby refusing to call an ambulance on a man who's had such a nasty fall his bone is sticking out of his leg. The brothers never consider that their victims could simply be lying to make the torture stop or genuinely not know.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** [[spoiler: Green finds Fowler at a bar, reveals he knows what he's up to, gets violent on him and therefore establishes himself as a threat...and then turns his back to him and walks out, as if expecting Fowler won't follow and retaliate. Sure enough, Green ends up getting shot]].
** [[spoiler: Fowler himself isn't very good at keeping his head during his EngineeredPublicConfession. Once he realised Angel had him on a wire, he would surely know that such a thing is hardly an admission of guilt and given Angel broke into his house and assaulted him could easily have covered up by saying he was threatened into confessing]].
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* PlotInducedStupidity: Yeah Jack, chase after the stranger in the hockey mask. Can't possibly see that ending badly. He and the audience don't see the guy's mask until he turns around. Jack just thought it was some trash-talking punk.
* RetroactiveRecognition: Sofia Vergara pre-Series/ModernFamily.
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* PlotInducedStupidity: Yeah Jack, chase after the stranger in the hockey mask. Can't possibly see that ending badly. He and the audience don't see the guy's mask until he turns around. Jack just thought it was some trash-talking punk.
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* ActorAllusion : It could be a coincidence, but after the car chase, one of the "targets" calls out [[Film/BoogieNights "Who sent you?"]]
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* TheWoobie: Jack is much more this trope than his brothers. He is not impulsive nor malicious, just seems to follow the steps of his brothers, and is likely to have been a good person if it were not for his childhood or life on the street. In addition, he is much more calm and sensitive than his older brothers, and it's implied that Jack had experienced a very traumatic childhood before Evelyn adopted him. And even worse, the discussions between his brothers often seem to make him uncomfortable. He's also constantly mocked in some deleted scenes.
** Not to mention that he's the only character in the main cast who suffers a tragic death.
** He and the audience don't see the guy's mask until he turns around. Jack just thought it was some trash-talking punk.
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** Not to mention that he's the only character in the main cast who suffers a tragic death.
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**badly. He and the audience don't see the guy's mask until he turns around. Jack just thought it was some trash-talking punk.
* TheWoobie: Jack is much more this trope than his brothers. He is not impulsive nor malicious, just seems to follow the steps of his brothers, and is likely to have been a good person if it were not for his childhood or life on the street. In addition, he is much more calm and sensitive than his older brothers, and it's implied that Jack had experienced a very traumatic childhood before Evelyn adopted him. And even worse, the discussions between his brothers often seem to make him uncomfortable. He's also constantly mocked in some deletedscenes.
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* TheWoobie: Jack is much more this trope than his brothers. He is not impulsive nor malicious, just seems to follow the steps of his brothers, and is likely to have been a good person if it were not for his childhood or life on the street. In addition, he is much more calm and sensitive than his older brothers, and it's implied that Jack had experienced a very traumatic childhood before Evelyn adopted him. And even worse, the discussions between his brothers often seem to make him uncomfortable. He's also constantly mocked in some deleted
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The four brothers. They were actually the result of all that lived in the streets as thugs (including death's mother)? Or really are NotSoDifferent to the antagonists? This can be justified by the fact that they [[EvilVersusEvil all lead a life of crime and literally kill for them is as normal as breathing.]]
* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: the bar where Fowler shot Lt. Green is full of people. One of them should have been able to see them get in a disagreement and then heard the gun shots afterward. The biggest problem is that Lt. Green walked up to his police car to leave and Fowler shot him right next to it so shouldn't there be a security feed of him killing his own partner?]]
* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: the bar where Fowler shot Lt. Green is full of people. One of them should have been able to see them get in a disagreement and then heard the gun shots afterward. The biggest problem is that Lt. Green walked up to his police car to leave and Fowler shot him right next to it so shouldn't there be a security feed of him killing his own partner?]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The four brothers. They were actually brothers, most specifically Bobby and Angel. Were they simply the result of all that lived in traumatic childhoods and then living on the streets as thugs (including death's mother)? their mother's death)? Or are they really are NotSoDifferent to from the antagonists? This can be justified by the fact that they [[EvilVersusEvil all lead a life of crime and literally kill for them that killing is as normal as breathing.breathing for them.]]
* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler:the The bar where Fowler shot Lt. Green is full of people. One of them should have been able to see them get in a disagreement and then heard the gun shots afterward. The biggest problem is that Lt. Green walked up to his police car to leave and Fowler shot him right next to it so shouldn't there be a security feed of him killing his own partner?]]
* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler:
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* RetroactiveRecognition : Sofia Vergara pre-Series/ModernFamily.
* TearJerker: Hard boiled Bobby crying alone in the bathroom after seeing his mother's room.
** [[spoiler:Jack's Death. Jack is shot at first only in the chest but as he's trying to get away a {{Mook}} shoots him again. It's not clear how many times. Still, he falls to the ground screaming in pain and for his brothers, Bobby in particular and you can hear him over the gunfire. The entire fight becomes a desperate attempt to get to him only for him to die minutes later. Everyone breaks down. To drive the point home, after Jack's funeral Bobby looks up at the pictures on the wall, Jack's picture has a bullet hole through it.]]
* RetroactiveRecognition : Sofia Vergara pre-Series/ModernFamily.
* TearJerker: Hard boiled Bobby crying alone in the bathroom after seeing his mother's room.
** [[spoiler:Jack's Death. Jack is shot at first only in the chest but as he's trying to get away a {{Mook}} shoots him again. It's not clear how many times. Still, he falls to the ground screaming in pain and for his brothers, Bobby in particular and you can hear him over the gunfire. The entire fight becomes a desperate attempt to get to him only for him to die minutes later. Everyone breaks down. To drive the point home, after Jack's funeral Bobby looks up at the pictures on the wall, Jack's picture has a bullet hole through it.]]
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* JerkassWoobie: All of the Mercer brothers have had pretty tough lives, but it can be inferred that these guys were only kind to their mother.
*RetroactiveRecognition : RetroactiveRecognition: Sofia Vergara pre-Series/ModernFamily.
* TearJerker:Hard boiled Hard-boiled Bobby crying alone in the bathroom after seeing his mother's room.
** [[spoiler:Jack'sDeath. Jack is death. At first, he's only shot at first only in the chest chest, but as he's trying to get away a {{Mook}} shoots him again. It's not clear how many times. Still, he falls to the ground screaming in pain and for his brothers, Bobby in particular particular, and you can hear him over the gunfire. The entire fight becomes a desperate attempt to get to him him, only for him Jack to die minutes later. Everyone breaks down. To drive the point home, after Jack's funeral Bobby looks up at the pictures on the wall, Jack's picture has a bullet hole through it.]]
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** Not to mention that he is the only character in the main cast dying in a tragic way.
** Not to mention that he is the only character in the main cast dying in a tragic way.
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* TheWoobie: Jack is much more of this trope than his brothers. He is not impulsive nor malicious, just seems to follow the steps to of his brothers brothers, and is likely to have been a good person if it were not for his childhood or his life in on the street. In addition, he is much more calm and sensitive than his older brothers, and it is it's implied that Jack had experienced a very traumatic childhood before the adoption of Evelyn. Worse, Evelyn adopted him. And even worse, the discussions between his brothers often seem to feel make him uncomfortable. He even is He's also constantly mocked in some deleted scenes.
** Not to mention thathe is he's the only character in the main cast dying in who suffers a tragic way.death.
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* TheWoobie: Jack is much more of this trope than his brothers. He is not impulsive nor malicious, just seems to follow the steps to his brothers and is likely to have been a good person if it were not for his childhood or his life in the street. In addition, he is more calm and sensitive than his brothers, and it is implied that Jack had experienced a very traumatic childhood before the adoption of Evelyn. Worse, the discussions between his brothers seem to feel him uncomfortable. He even is constantly mocked in some deleted scenes.
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* TheWoobie: Jack is much more of this trope than his brothers. He is not impulsive nor malicious, just seems to follow the steps to his brothers and is likely to have been a good person if it were not for his childhood or his life in the street. In addition, he is more calm and sensitive than his brothers, and it is implied that Jack had experienced a very traumatic childhood before the adoption of Evelyn. Worse, the discussions between his brothers seem to feel him uncomfortable.
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* TheWoobie: Jack is much more of this trope than his brothers. He is not impulsive nor malicious, just seems to follow the steps to his brothers and is likely to have been a good person if it were not for his childhood or his life in the street. In addition, he is more calm and sensitive than his brothers, and it is implied that Jack had experienced a very traumatic childhood before the adoption of Evelyn. Worse, the discussions between his brothers seem to feel him uncomfortable.uncomfortable.
** Not to mention that he is the only character in the main cast dying in a tragic way.
** Not to mention that he is the only character in the main cast dying in a tragic way.
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** He and the audience don't see the guy's mask until he turns around. Jack just thought it was some trash-talking punk.punk.
* TheWoobie: Jack is much more of this trope than his brothers. He is not impulsive nor malicious, just seems to follow the steps to his brothers and is likely to have been a good person if it were not for his childhood or his life in the street. In addition, he is more calm and sensitive than his brothers, and it is implied that Jack had experienced a very traumatic childhood before the adoption of Evelyn. Worse, the discussions between his brothers seem to feel him uncomfortable.
* TheWoobie: Jack is much more of this trope than his brothers. He is not impulsive nor malicious, just seems to follow the steps to his brothers and is likely to have been a good person if it were not for his childhood or his life in the street. In addition, he is more calm and sensitive than his brothers, and it is implied that Jack had experienced a very traumatic childhood before the adoption of Evelyn. Worse, the discussions between his brothers seem to feel him uncomfortable.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The four brothers. They were actually the result of all that lived in the streets as thugs (including death's mother)? Or really are NotSoDifferent to the antagonists? This can be justified by the fact that they [[EvilVersusEvil all lead a life of crime and literally kill for them is as normal as breathing.]]
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** It's mentioned the bar is one of Sweet's places.
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* PlotInducedStupidity / WhatAnIdiot: Yeah Jack, chase after the stranger in the hockey mask. Can't possibly see that ending badly...
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* PlotInducedStupidity / WhatAnIdiot: Yeah Jack, chase after the stranger in the hockey mask. Can't possibly see that ending badly...badly...
** He and the audience don't see the guy's mask until he turns around. Jack just thought it was some trash-talking punk.
** He and the audience don't see the guy's mask until he turns around. Jack just thought it was some trash-talking punk.
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* TearJerker: Hard boiled Bobby crying alone in the bathroom after seeing his mother's room. [[spoiler:Jack's Death. Jack is shot at first only in the chest but as he's trying to get away a {{Mook}} shoots him again. It's not clear how many times. Still, he falls to the ground screaming in pain and for his brothers, Bobby in particular and you can hear him over the gunfire. The entire fight becomes a desperate attempt to get to him only for him to die minutes later. Everyone breaks down. To drive the point home, after Jack's funeral Bobby looks up at the pictures on the wall, Jack's picture has a bullet hole through it.]]
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* TearJerker: Hard boiled Bobby crying alone in the bathroom after seeing his mother's room.
** [[spoiler:Jack's Death. Jack is shot at first only in the chest but as he's trying to get away a {{Mook}} shoots him again. It's not clear how many times. Still, he falls to the ground screaming in pain and for his brothers, Bobby in particular and you can hear him over the gunfire. The entire fight becomes a desperate attempt to get to him only for him to die minutes later. Everyone breaks down. To drive the point home, after Jack's funeral Bobby looks up at the pictures on the wall, Jack's picture has a bullet hole through it.]]
** [[spoiler:Jack's Death. Jack is shot at first only in the chest but as he's trying to get away a {{Mook}} shoots him again. It's not clear how many times. Still, he falls to the ground screaming in pain and for his brothers, Bobby in particular and you can hear him over the gunfire. The entire fight becomes a desperate attempt to get to him only for him to die minutes later. Everyone breaks down. To drive the point home, after Jack's funeral Bobby looks up at the pictures on the wall, Jack's picture has a bullet hole through it.]]
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: the bar where Fowler shot Lt. Green is full of people. One of them should have been able to see them get in a disagreement and then heard the gun shots afterward. The biggest problem is that Lt. Green walked up to his police car to leave and Fowler shot him right next to it so shouldn't there be a security feed of him killing his own partner?]]
** [[spoiler: Why didn't Fowler try to destroy the security tape and police report of him meeting with Evelyn Mercer? He wouldn't have gotten found out otherwise.]]
** [[spoiler: Why didn't Fowler try to destroy the security tape and police report of him meeting with Evelyn Mercer? He wouldn't have gotten found out otherwise.]]
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** [[spoiler: Not to mention the boys watching the tape the store owner had of the thugs shooting their mother. It's so bad that Angel turns away before the actual shooting and they all can't help crying during her final moments.]]
* PlotInducedStupidity / WhatAnIdiot: Yeah Jack, chase after the stranger in the hockey mask. Can't possibly see that ending badly...
* PlotInducedStupidity / WhatAnIdiot: Yeah Jack, chase after the stranger in the hockey mask. Can't possibly see that ending badly...
