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** The timing for it being "not right" makes sense as well since we see Mizuki out there watching. And when she reports in the first thing said to her asks about the old man being dead, ostensibly killed by the Mizuki enraged Kirin.
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** Lord Asano Naganori is portrayed as an old and wizened man and Lord Kira Yoshinaka as a young upstart noble (which resonates with him being power-hungry). In RealLife, during the events of 1701 [=AD=], Lord Kira was the older man (Lord Asano was 34 by then and Lord Kira was almost 60).
** HistoricalVillainDowngrade: Lord Kira in the film can put up a fight and does fight when cornered. His RealLife counterpart [[DirtyCoward acted cowardly to the end]], fleeing his home, hiding in a coal dump and refusing to end honorably by {{Seppuku}} even when asked.
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** HistoricalVillainDowngrade: Lord Kira in the film can put up a fight and does fight when cornered. His RealLife counterpart [[DirtyCoward acted cowardly to the end]], fleeing his home, hiding in a coal dump and refusing to end honorably by {{Seppuku}} even when asked.
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** Lord Asano Naganori is portrayed as an old and wizened man and Lord Kira Yoshinaka as a young upstart noble (which resonates with him being power-hungry). In RealLife, during the events of 1701 [=AD=], Lord Kira was the older man (Lord Asano was 34 by then and Lord Kira was almost 62).

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** Lord Asano Naganori is portrayed as an old and wizened man and Lord Kira Yoshinaka as a young upstart noble (which resonates with him being power-hungry). In RealLife, during the events of 1701 [=AD=], Lord Kira was the older man (Lord Asano was 34 by then and Lord Kira was almost 62).60).
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* AdaptationDistillation:
** Lord Asano Naganori is portrayed as an old and wizened man and Lord Kira Yoshinaka as a young upstart noble (which resonates with him being power-hungry). In RealLife, during the events of 1701 [=AD=], Lord Kira was the older man (Lord Asano was 34 by then and Lord Kira was almost 62).
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* HamAndCheese: Creator/RinkoKikuchi obviously has the time of her life playing the over-the-top sorceress Mizuki.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Pretty much everyone. Even critics who dislike the film acknowledge that the cast really are trying their best with the material they've been given.

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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Pretty With [[HamAndCheese the exception of]] Creator/RinkoKikuchi, pretty much everyone. Even critics who dislike the film acknowledge that the cast really are trying their best with the material they've been given.

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** The timing is right because of the Shogun's imminent arrival, and Kai does say there's something wrong with it. Unfortunately the latter part comes after the Samurai are already hunting it.



* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: Given that Asian and Asian-American actors are less prominent in Hollywood, a considerable number of Asian-American viewers were disappointed that Universal played the ButNotTooForeign trope straight by casting Keanu Reeves as Kai.

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* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: Given that Asian and Asian-American actors are less prominent in Hollywood, a considerable number of Asian-American viewers were disappointed that Universal played the ButNotTooForeign trope straight by casting Keanu Reeves as Kai.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: The first monster the characters fight is a Kirin. This flat-out contradicts Japanese mythology's interpretation of them being divine creatures that appear with the imminent arrival or passing of a sage or illustrious ruler. They are also seen as good omens to occasion prosperity or serenity, not as beasts that would threaten people.
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* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: Given that Asian and Asian-American actors are less prominent in Hollywood, a considerable number of Asian Americans were disappointed that Universal played the ButNotTooForeign trope straight by casting Keanu Reeves as Kai.

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* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: Given that Asian and Asian-American actors are less prominent in Hollywood, a considerable number of Asian Americans Asian-American viewers were disappointed that Universal played the ButNotTooForeign trope straight by casting Keanu Reeves as Kai.
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Even though I am of Asian descent, I think that it should speak only of the movie itself, not of other Hollywood flicks accused of pulling this trope. Also, watch the complaining.


* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: As an explanation of why so many Asians hate the addition of Keanu Reeves: 1) It's hard enough for Asians OR Asian-American actors to get roles. 2) Why would you add a ''forty-eighth'' character just to get a movie star in? They could have cast literally ANY Asian(-American), Pacific Islander, or Middle-Eastern actor as one of the forty-seven ronin and gotten a better response than casting Keanu Reeves. 3) Making that forty-eighth character a Caucasian-appearing mix just makes it worse. Of course there are a lot of mixed people who look white, but "Don't worry, (s)he's mixed!" has been used as an excuse to cast white-appearing actors in prominent minority roles too often for people to take it well anymore. Then there's the infamous backlash of TheLastAirbender's whitewashing, the coldly-received rumors of a whitewashed ''{{AKIRA}}'' remake starring Keanu, and you've got a perfect storm of fucktastically stupid casting decisions.

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* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: As an explanation of why so many Asians hate the addition of Keanu Reeves: 1) It's hard enough for Asians OR Given that Asian and Asian-American actors to get roles. 2) Why would you add are less prominent in Hollywood, a ''forty-eighth'' character just to get a movie star in? They could have cast literally ANY Asian(-American), Pacific Islander, or Middle-Eastern actor as one considerable number of Asian Americans were disappointed that Universal played the forty-seven ronin and gotten a better response than ButNotTooForeign trope straight by casting Keanu Reeves. 3) Making that forty-eighth character a Caucasian-appearing mix just makes it worse. Of course there are a lot of mixed people who look white, but "Don't worry, (s)he's mixed!" has been used Reeves as an excuse to cast white-appearing actors in prominent minority roles too often for people to take it well anymore. Then there's the infamous backlash of TheLastAirbender's whitewashing, the coldly-received rumors of a whitewashed ''{{AKIRA}}'' remake starring Keanu, and you've got a perfect storm of fucktastically stupid casting decisions.Kai.

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** The main three problems with casting Reeves are that 1) It's hard enough for Asians OR Asian-American actors to get roles, 2) Adding a ''forty-eighth'' character to an already sizable cast is clearly done to reel in the audience, and 3) making that forty-eighth character half-British and Caucasian-appearing just adds insult to injury. Then there's the infamous backlash of TheLastAirbender's whitewashing, the coldly-received rumors of a whitewashed ''{{AKIRA}}'' remake starring Keanu, and you've got a perfect storm of [[WhatTheHellCastingAgency fucktastically stupid casting decisions.]]

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** The main three problems with casting Reeves are that 1) It's hard enough for Asians OR Asian-American actors to get roles, 2) Adding a ''forty-eighth'' character to an already sizable cast is clearly done to reel in the audience, and 3) making that forty-eighth character half-British and Caucasian-appearing just adds insult to injury. Then there's the infamous backlash of TheLastAirbender's whitewashing, the coldly-received rumors of a whitewashed ''{{AKIRA}}'' remake starring Keanu, and you've got a perfect storm of [[WhatTheHellCastingAgency fucktastically stupid casting decisions.]]See WhatTheHellCastingAgency below.


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* WhatTheHellCastingAgency: As an explanation of why so many Asians hate the addition of Keanu Reeves: 1) It's hard enough for Asians OR Asian-American actors to get roles. 2) Why would you add a ''forty-eighth'' character just to get a movie star in? They could have cast literally ANY Asian(-American), Pacific Islander, or Middle-Eastern actor as one of the forty-seven ronin and gotten a better response than casting Keanu Reeves. 3) Making that forty-eighth character a Caucasian-appearing mix just makes it worse. Of course there are a lot of mixed people who look white, but "Don't worry, (s)he's mixed!" has been used as an excuse to cast white-appearing actors in prominent minority roles too often for people to take it well anymore. Then there's the infamous backlash of TheLastAirbender's whitewashing, the coldly-received rumors of a whitewashed ''{{AKIRA}}'' remake starring Keanu, and you've got a perfect storm of fucktastically stupid casting decisions.
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** The main three problems with casting Reeves are that 1) It's hard enough for Asians OR Asian-American actors to get roles, 2) Adding a ''forty-eighth'' character to an already sizable cast is clearly done to reel in the audience, and 3) making that forty-eighth character half-British and Caucasian-appearing just adds insult to injury. Then there's the infamous backlash of TheLastAirbender's whitewashing, the coldly-received rumors of a whitewashed ''{{AKIRA}}'' remake starring Keanu, and you've got a perfect storm of [[WhatTheHellCastingAgency fucktastically stupid casting decisions.]]
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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[TheBrute The huge silver samurai]] is built up to be a tough fight for the ronin, but then he gets [[spoiler: blown apart by a bomb thrown into the powder room]].

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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[TheBrute The huge silver samurai]] is built up to be a tough fight for the ronin, ronin and even walks towards them menacingly, but then he gets [[spoiler: blown apart by a bomb thrown into the powder room]].
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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[TheBrute The huge silver samurai]] is built up to be a tough fight for the ronin, but then he gets [[spoiler: blown apart by a bomb thrown into the powder room]].
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* EvilIsSexy: Mizuki
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** This probably came from the anger at the DoubleStandard in the job market for Asian actors, as well as stereotype casting. While a Caucasian actor/actress (or half-Caucasian who doesn't look too foreign) can play non-Caucasian characters all the freaking time (Film/TheLastAirbender, Film/PrinceOfPersia, etc.), it's a general consensus that no Asian or half-Caucasian actor who looks too foreign would ''ever'' land a 'white guy' role. (For example, casting Bruce Lee, who was part Caucasian, as George Washington).
** On the other hand, Keanu Reeves makes a career out of playing white characters, and he rarely (if ever) discusses his Asian lineage. He also played the Buddha once in 'Little Buddha'.
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* UnfortunateImplications: One of the most blatant cases of MightyWhitey in recent memory, as apparently having the Ronin all be 100% Asian would completely kill any desire to see it. This is toned down a little by Keanu Reeves having some Asian heritage, but it still rankles.

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* UnfortunateImplications: One of the most blatant cases of MightyWhitey in recent memory, as apparently having the Ronin all be 100% Asian would completely kill any desire to see it. This is toned down a little by Keanu Reeves actually having some Asian heritage, but it still rankles.
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* UnfortunateImplications: One of the most blatant cases of MightyWhitey in recent memory, as apparently having the Ronin all be 100% Asian would completely kill any desire to see it. This is toned down a little by Keanu Reeves having some Asian heritage.

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* UnfortunateImplications: One of the most blatant cases of MightyWhitey in recent memory, as apparently having the Ronin all be 100% Asian would completely kill any desire to see it. This is toned down a little by Keanu Reeves having some Asian heritage.heritage, but it still rankles.
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** This probably came from the anger at the DoubleStandard in the job market for Asian actors, as well as stereotype casting. While a Caucasian (or half_Caucasian who doesn't look too foreign) actor/actress can play non-Caucasian characters all the freaking time(Film/TheLastAirbender, Film/PrinceOfPersia, etc.), it's a general consensus that no Asian or half-Caucasian actor who looks too foreign would ever land a 'white guy' role. (For example, casting Bruce Lee, who was part Caucasian, as George Washington).
** On the other hand, Keanu Reeves makes a career out of playing white characters, and he rarely(if ever) discussed his Asian lineage. He also played the Buddha once in 'Little Buddha'.
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Pretty much everyone. Even critics who dislike the film acknowledge that the cast are trying their best with the material they've been given.

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** This probably came from the anger at the DoubleStandard in the job market for Asian actors, as well as stereotype casting. While a Caucasian actor/actress (or half_Caucasian half-Caucasian who doesn't look too foreign) actor/actress can play non-Caucasian characters all the freaking time(Film/TheLastAirbender, time (Film/TheLastAirbender, Film/PrinceOfPersia, etc.), it's a general consensus that no Asian or half-Caucasian actor who looks too foreign would ever ''ever'' land a 'white guy' role. (For example, casting Bruce Lee, who was part Caucasian, as George Washington).
** On the other hand, Keanu Reeves makes a career out of playing white characters, and he rarely(if rarely (if ever) discussed discusses his Asian lineage. He also played the Buddha once in 'Little Buddha'.
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Pretty much everyone. Even critics who dislike the film acknowledge that the cast really are trying their best with the material they've been given.
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** This probably came from the anger at the DoubleStandard in the job market for Asian actors, as well as stereotype casting. While a Caucasian (or half_Caucasian who doesn't look too foreign) actor/actress can play non-Caucasian characters all the freaking time([[Film/TheLastAirbender]], [[Film/PrinceOfPersia]], etc.), it's a general consensus that no Asian or half-Caucasian actor who looks too foreign would ever land a 'white guy' role. (For example, casting Bruce Lee, who was part Caucasian, as George Washington).

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** This probably came from the anger at the DoubleStandard in the job market for Asian actors, as well as stereotype casting. While a Caucasian (or half_Caucasian who doesn't look too foreign) actor/actress can play non-Caucasian characters all the freaking time([[Film/TheLastAirbender]], [[Film/PrinceOfPersia]], time(Film/TheLastAirbender, Film/PrinceOfPersia, etc.), it's a general consensus that no Asian or half-Caucasian actor who looks too foreign would ever land a 'white guy' role. (For example, casting Bruce Lee, who was part Caucasian, as George Washington).
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** This probably came from anger of DoubleStandard in job market for Asian actor and stereotype casting. While Caucasian(or half caucasian who don't look not too much foreign) actor/actress can play non-caucasian character all the time(Last Airbender, Prince Of Persia, etc.), it was general consensus that no Asian or half Caucasian who look too much foreign would never ever land on a 'white guy' role(For example, putting Bruce Lee who was part Caucasian as George Washington).
** On the other hand, Keanu Reeve make a career out-of playing white character and he was rarely(if ever) discuss about his Asian lineage. He also play Buddha once in 'Little Buddha'.

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** This probably came from the anger of at the DoubleStandard in the job market for Asian actor and actors, as well as stereotype casting. While Caucasian(or half caucasian a Caucasian (or half_Caucasian who don't doesn't look not too much foreign) actor/actress can play non-caucasian character non-Caucasian characters all the time(Last Airbender, Prince Of Persia, freaking time([[Film/TheLastAirbender]], [[Film/PrinceOfPersia]], etc.), it was it's a general consensus that no Asian or half Caucasian half-Caucasian actor who look looks too much foreign would never ever land on a 'white guy' role(For role. (For example, putting casting Bruce Lee Lee, who was part Caucasian Caucasian, as George Washington).
** On the other hand, Keanu Reeve make Reeves makes a career out-of out of playing white character characters, and he was rarely(if ever) discuss about discussed his Asian lineage. He also play played the Buddha once in 'Little Buddha'.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Pretty much everyone. Even critics who dislike the film acknowledge that the cast are trying their best with the material they've been given.
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Not exactly a Critical Dissonance that the movie flopped in the US box office which opens on the ninth place (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=47ronin.htm). Its Japanese debut is even worse as they can only gain $ 1 million which is not enough to go back to the movie\'s budget of $200 million and Universal Studios is aware that the movie is screwed (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/24/us-comcast-writedown-idUSBRE9BN0HR20131224). Also. 6.8 is an average and mediocre score.


* CriticalDissonance: The film was widely panned by critics, but maintains a [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1335975/ 6.8 out of 10 on IMDB]].
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** This probably came from anger of DoubleStandard in job market for Asian actor and stereotype casting. While Caucasian(or half caucasian who don't look not too much foreign) actor/actress can play non-caucasian character all the time(Last Airbender, Prince Of Persia, etc.), it was general consensus that no Asian or half Caucasian who look too much foreign would never ever land on a 'white guy' role(For example, putting Bruce Lee who was part Caucasian as George Washington).
** On the other hand, Keanu Reeve make a career out-of playing white character and he was rarely(if ever) discuss about his Asian lineage. He also play Buddha once in 'Little Buddha'.
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* FoeYay: The scenes between Mika and the witch play out like this, particularly when [[spoiler: the witch sneaks into Mika's room at night, slithers all over her in a seductive manner, then suggests she commit suicide.]]
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* CriticalBacklash: The film was widely panned by critics, but maintains a [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1335975/ 7.1 out of 10 on IMDB]].

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* CriticalBacklash: CriticalDissonance: The film was widely panned by critics, but maintains a [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1335975/ 7.1 6.8 out of 10 on IMDB]].

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* CriticalBacklash: The film was widely panned by critics, but maintains a [[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1335975/ 7.1 out of 10 on IMDB]].



* UnfortunateImplications: One of the most blatant cases of MightyWhitey in recent memory, as apparently having the Ronin all be 100% Asian would completely kill any desire to see it.

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* UnfortunateImplications: One of the most blatant cases of MightyWhitey in recent memory, as apparently having the Ronin all be 100% Asian would completely kill any desire to see it. This is toned down a little by Keanu Reeves having some Asian heritage.
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* HateDumb: Before it even came out, the movie took a lot of flak largely for starring Creator/KeanuReeves. Implications of his acting talent aside, the biggest complaint is that he can't realistically play a half-Asian character, despite actually being of mixed-Asian descent.

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* HateDumb: Before it even came out, the movie took a lot of flak largely for starring Creator/KeanuReeves. Implications of his acting talent aside, the biggest complaint is that he can't realistically play a half-Asian character, despite actually being of mixed-Asian descent.descent.
* UnfortunateImplications: One of the most blatant cases of MightyWhitey in recent memory, as apparently having the Ronin all be 100% Asian would completely kill any desire to see it.
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* HateDumb: Before it even came out, the movie took a lot of flak largely for starring Creator/KeanuReeves. Implications of his acting talent aside, the biggest complaint is that he can't realistically play a half-Asian character, despite actually being of mixed-Asian descent.

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