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* BigNameFan: Johnny Pez, the founder of the Sobel Wiki who generates a large portion of its content. He also regularly blogs about the book in-depth, in addition to his fan fiction.
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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: The settlements described for Mexico [[http://johnnypez9.blogspot.com/2013/01/sobel-wiki-disunited-empire-disloyalists.html fail to accord]] to what they were in our timeline
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* ArtisticLicenseStatistics: Averted for the most part, but the population of Manitoba is pegged at 31.5 million in 1930, which is way more than the 4 million it sustained in our timeline at the same period.
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* MagnificentBastard: Bernard Kramer and Diego Cortez y Catalán.
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler: Pedro Hermíon.]]
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: If you consider the American revolutionaries "heroes", see the UnfortunateImplications entry.
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* ArtisticLicenseGeography: The settlements described for Mexico [[http://johnnypez9.blogspot.com/2013/01/sobel-wiki-disunited-empire-disloyalists.html fail to accord]] to what they were in our timeline
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* CriticalResearchFailure: The conspicuous omission of the Hudson Bay Company in the description of Manitoba, and the anachronistic names for some of the Mexican states (e.g. Arizona) among other things.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: The map that comes with the book in some editions has been subject to this in some circles.
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* FridgeLogic: As [[http://johnnypez9.blogspot.com/2013/04/sobel-wiki-release-hounds.html this post]] notes, the butterfly effect should have prevented Henry Gilpin's parents from meeting considering they were 3000+ miles apart before the 1790s and met by chance in Lancaster.
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* FridgeLogic: As [[http://johnnypez9.blogspot.com/2013/04/sobel-wiki-release-hounds.html this post]] notes, the butterfly effect should have prevented Henry Gilpin's parents from meeting meeting, considering they were 3000+ miles apart before the 1790s and met by chance in Lancaster.
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* GeniusBonus: "Chapultapec", "Conceptión" and "Guatamala" may seem like outdated misspellings of the corresponding Spanish terms, but they may actually reflect the InUniverse Robert Sobel's bias in favor of the Anglos in Mexico. This is why the Sobel Wiki uses different spellings, as delineated here: (http://johnnypez9.blogspot.com/2013/07/sobel-wiki-shibboleth.html ).
* GeniusBonus: "Chapultapec", "Conceptión" and "Guatamala" may seem like outdated misspellings of the corresponding Spanish terms, but they may actually reflect the InUniverse Robert Sobel's bias in favor of the Anglos in Mexico. This is why the Sobel Wiki uses different spellings, as delineated here: (http://johnnypez9.blogspot.com/2013/07/sobel-wiki-shibboleth.html ).
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* {{Fanon}}: Most of the maps, the constitution and other expansions from the original text that are featured in the above site.
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* {{Fanon}}: Most of the maps, the constitution and other expansions from the original text that are featured in the above site. site.
* HilariousInHindsight: Jimmy Carter would become president three years after the publication of the book, and some people have noted (unflattering) parallels between him and Governor-General Mason.
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: If you consider the American revolutionaries "heroes", see the trope below. UnfortunateImplications entry.
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler: Pedro Hermíon.]]
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler: Pedro Hermíon.]]
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* DesignatedHero: The review at the end of the book by another author InUniverse accuses Robert Sobel of making the CNA this.
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* UnfortunateImplications: A minor and contentious example, but as far as we know, there are no equivalent events to the Holodmor, the Holocaust, the Great Leap Forward, or any of the engineered tragedies that besieged the 20th Century and caused millions of deaths. The Great Northern War has far fewer casualities than the AmericanCivilWar, and there's only one equivalent to the World War (the Global War). Aside from the comparatively milquetoast [[spoiler: Benito Hermíon]], there are no analogs to Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin. ...all because the AmericanRevolution didn't succeed.
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* UnfortunateImplications: A minor and contentious example, but as far as we know, there are no equivalent events to the Holodmor, the Holocaust, the Great Leap Forward, or any of the engineered tragedies that besieged the 20th Century and caused millions of deaths. The Great Northern War has far fewer casualities than the AmericanCivilWar, and there's only one equivalent to the World War (the Global War). Aside from the comparatively milquetoast [[spoiler: Benito Hermíon]], there are no analogs to Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin. ...Stalin ...all because the AmericanRevolution didn't succeed.
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: If you consider the American revolutionaries "heroes", see the trope below.
* UnfortunateImplications: A minor and contentious example, but as far as we know, there are no equivalent events to the Holodmor, the Holocaust, the Great Leap Forward, or any of the engineered tragedies that besieged the 20th Century and caused millions of deaths. The Great Northern War has far fewer casualities than the AmericanCivilWar, and there's only one equivalent to the World War (the Global War). Aside from the comparatively milquetoast [[spoiler: Benito Hermíon]], there are no analogs to Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin. ...all because the AmericanRevolution didn't succeed.
* NiceJobBreakingItHero: If you consider the American revolutionaries "heroes", see the trope below.
* UnfortunateImplications: A minor and contentious example, but as far as we know, there are no equivalent events to the Holodmor, the Holocaust, the Great Leap Forward, or any of the engineered tragedies that besieged the 20th Century and caused millions of deaths. The Great Northern War has far fewer casualities than the AmericanCivilWar, and there's only one equivalent to the World War (the Global War). Aside from the comparatively milquetoast [[spoiler: Benito Hermíon]], there are no analogs to Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin. ...all because the AmericanRevolution didn't succeed.
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* {{Fanon}}: Most of the maps, the constitution and other expansions from the original text that are featured in the above site.
* * MagnificentBastard: Bernard Kramer and Diego Cortez y Catalán.
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* * MagnificentBastard: Bernard Kramer and Diego Cortez y Catalán.
