History YMMV / FinalFantasyXIII

7th Jan '16 5:22:04 PM DrakeClawfang
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this is more complaining about poor pacing than Narm
* {{Narm}}: One of the biggest criticisms of the game is that it takes way too long to establish each character. It isn't until nearly fifteen-twenty hours into the game that we learn about each character's backstory and/or exactly what they're fighting for. This, combined with the fact that the first several hours of the game don't bother to explain what is going on leaves many players with no reason to care. And without a reason to care, many dramatic scenes that are supposed to be dramatic (Hope's mother's death, Lightning and Snow's desperation to save Serah, etc.) just come off as flat or even laughably bad (which is only made worse by the sometimes non-sensical dialogue and behaviour of the characters).
29th Dec '15 4:39:40 AM eowynjedi
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: If the player visits Aggra's Pasture and examines one of the big sheep, you get a cutscene. Vanille walks up to it, asks repeatedly if it's mad, shoves her hand in its coat, and then bodily ''yanks'' off a chunk of wool while the others stand around, asking what the hell she's doing--then the screen goes black and gives you a message "You obtained [type of] Wool!" like you've just found a key plot artifact. But there's no sidequest--all this is just to tell you that you can get a new kind of compounding item.
18th Dec '15 7:17:20 PM eowynjedi
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* CounterpartComparison: Fans have sparked this between Lightning and [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Aqua]] -- both are LadyOfWar {{Magic Knight}}s, but whereas Lightning is a KnightInSourArmor, Aqua is a [[LoveFreak Friendship Freak]]. Depictions of the two of them together are not hard to find, including one of them using the outfit or a trademark pose of the other. Fang occasionally gets included for a PowerTrio.
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* CounterpartComparison: CounterpartComparison: ** Fans have sparked this between Lightning and [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Aqua]] -- both are LadyOfWar {{Magic Knight}}s, but whereas Lightning is a KnightInSourArmor, Aqua is a [[LoveFreak Friendship Freak]]. Depictions of the two of them together are not hard to find, including one of them using the outfit or a trademark pose of the other. Fang occasionally gets included for a PowerTrio.

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* CounterpartComparison: Fans ** Japanese fanartists like to draw comics that have sparked this between Lightning and [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Aqua]] -- both are LadyOfWar {{Magic Knight}}s, but whereas Lightning is a KnightInSourArmor, Aqua is a [[LoveFreak Friendship Freak]]. Depictions of the two of them together are not hard to find, including one of them using the outfit or a trademark pose of the other. Fang Serah meeting (and occasionally gets included for a PowerTrio.swapping with) another tough gal who's fiercely protective of her NiceGirl sister, [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyV Faris and Lenna]].
18th Dec '15 6:45:25 PM eowynjedi
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** The Menhirrim and Dahaka in Taejin's Tower. Clearly, there should be ''some'' kind of backstory about living statues that have been subjugated by a lone fal'Cie in an immense fallen tower, particularly when the Menhirrim actively fight Dahaka, ''survive'', and then [[ButNowIMustGo depart to fight evil elsewhere]]. They're never seen again, in this game or the sequel, and the most the Datalog can muster for Taejin's Tower is "idk, maybe Tower of Babel".
9th Dec '15 10:05:28 PM Scabbard
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* BadExportForYou: The PC version will only have the Japanese voice acting in Asia. This compared to the other regions who will be getting it in both English '''and''' Japanese. It feels like Square is either too cheap to pay the English [=VAs=] just a little more to have the English voice acting tracks, or are trying to sabotage the game's release on Steam for whatever reason. This is especially aggravating since most people in Asia don't speak Japanese[[note]]And is especially bad in places with sentiments towards the Japanese ie South Korea[[/note]]. Sure, it has English subtitles[[note]]Which is broken since it only shows subtitles in the cutscenes and nowhere else. And oh, menu items are Japanese too[[/note]] and is about US$2 cheaper than the other regions' versions, but is still a scathing burn nontheless.
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* BadExportForYou: The PC version will only have the Japanese voice acting in Asia. This compared to the other regions who will be getting it in both English '''and''' Japanese. It feels like Square is either too cheap to pay the English [=VAs=] just a little more to have the English voice acting tracks, or are trying to sabotage the game's release on Steam for whatever reason. This is especially aggravating since most people in Asia don't speak Japanese[[note]]And is especially bad in places with negative sentiments towards the Japanese ie South Korea[[/note]]. Sure, it has English subtitles[[note]]Which is broken since it only shows subtitles in the cutscenes and nowhere else. And oh, menu items are Japanese too[[/note]] and is about US$2 cheaper than the other regions' versions, but is still a scathing burn nontheless.
15th Nov '15 8:07:33 PM RAMChYLD
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* BadExportForYou: The PC version will only have the Japanese voice acting in Asia. This compared to the other regions who will be getting it in both English '''and''' Japanese. It feels like Square is either too cheap to pay the English [=VAs=] just a little more to have the English voice acting tracks, or are trying to sabotage the game's release on Steam for whatever reason. This is especially aggravating since most people in Asia don't speak Japanese. Sure, it has English subtitles[[note]]Which is broken since it only shows subtitles in the cutscenes and not during battle. And oh, menu items are Japanese too[[/note]] and is about US$2 cheaper than the other regions' versions, but is still a scathing burn nontheless.
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* BadExportForYou: The PC version will only have the Japanese voice acting in Asia. This compared to the other regions who will be getting it in both English '''and''' Japanese. It feels like Square is either too cheap to pay the English [=VAs=] just a little more to have the English voice acting tracks, or are trying to sabotage the game's release on Steam for whatever reason. This is especially aggravating since most people in Asia don't speak Japanese. Japanese[[note]]And is especially bad in places with sentiments towards the Japanese ie South Korea[[/note]]. Sure, it has English subtitles[[note]]Which is broken since it only shows subtitles in the cutscenes and not during battle.nowhere else. And oh, menu items are Japanese too[[/note]] and is about US$2 cheaper than the other regions' versions, but is still a scathing burn nontheless.
15th Nov '15 8:04:28 PM RAMChYLD
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* BadExportForYou: The PC version will only have the Japanese voice acting in Asia. This compared to the other regions who will be getting it in both English '''and''' Japanese. It feels like Square is either too cheap to pay the English [=VAs=] just a little more to have the English voice acting tracks, or are trying to sabotage the game's release on Steam for whatever reason. This is especially aggravating since most people in Asia don't speak Japanese. Sure, it has English subtitles and is about US$2 cheaper than the other regions' versions, but is still a scathing burn nontheless.
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* BadExportForYou: The PC version will only have the Japanese voice acting in Asia. This compared to the other regions who will be getting it in both English '''and''' Japanese. It feels like Square is either too cheap to pay the English [=VAs=] just a little more to have the English voice acting tracks, or are trying to sabotage the game's release on Steam for whatever reason. This is especially aggravating since most people in Asia don't speak Japanese. Sure, it has English subtitles[[note]]Which is broken since it only shows subtitles in the cutscenes and not during battle. And oh, menu items are Japanese too[[/note]] and is about US$2 cheaper than the other regions' versions, but is still a scathing burn nontheless.
10th Oct '15 2:57:23 PM JonahtheMann
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* {{Narm}}: One of the biggest criticisms of the game is that it takes way too long to establish each character. It isn't until nearly fifteen-twenty hours into the game that we learn about each character's backstory and/or exactly what they're fighting for. This, combined with the fact that the first several hours of the game don't bother to explain what is going on leaves many players with no reason to care. And without a reason to care, many dramatic scenes (Hope's mother's death, Lightning and Snow's desperation to save Serah, etc.) just come off as flat or even laughably bad (which is only made worse by the sometimes non-sensical dialogue).
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* {{Narm}}: One of the biggest criticisms of the game is that it takes way too long to establish each character. It isn't until nearly fifteen-twenty hours into the game that we learn about each character's backstory and/or exactly what they're fighting for. This, combined with the fact that the first several hours of the game don't bother to explain what is going on leaves many players with no reason to care. And without a reason to care, many dramatic scenes that are supposed to be dramatic (Hope's mother's death, Lightning and Snow's desperation to save Serah, etc.) just come off as flat or even laughably bad (which is only made worse by the sometimes non-sensical dialogue).dialogue and behaviour of the characters).
10th Oct '15 2:55:53 PM JonahtheMann
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* One of the biggest criticisms of the game is that it takes way too long to establish each character. It isn't until nearly fifteen-twenty hours into the game that we learn about each character's backstory and/or exactly what they're fighting for. This, combined with the fact that the first several hours of the game don't bother to explain what is going on leaves many players with no reason to care. And without a reason to care, many dramatic scenes (Hope's mother's death, Lightning and Snow's desperation to save Serah, etc.) just come off as flat or even laughably bad (which isn't helped by the sometimes non-sensical dialogue).
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* {{Narm}}: One of the biggest criticisms of the game is that it takes way too long to establish each character. It isn't until nearly fifteen-twenty hours into the game that we learn about each character's backstory and/or exactly what they're fighting for. This, combined with the fact that the first several hours of the game don't bother to explain what is going on leaves many players with no reason to care. And without a reason to care, many dramatic scenes (Hope's mother's death, Lightning and Snow's desperation to save Serah, etc.) just come off as flat or even laughably bad (which isn't helped is only made worse by the sometimes non-sensical dialogue).
10th Oct '15 2:54:46 PM JonahtheMann
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** Vanille's voice for some.
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** Vanille's voice for some.many, particularly in the english dub.

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** Vanille's voice for some.* One of the biggest criticisms of the game is that it takes way too long to establish each character. It isn't until nearly fifteen-twenty hours into the game that we learn about each character's backstory and/or exactly what they're fighting for. This, combined with the fact that the first several hours of the game don't bother to explain what is going on leaves many players with no reason to care. And without a reason to care, many dramatic scenes (Hope's mother's death, Lightning and Snow's desperation to save Serah, etc.) just come off as flat or even laughably bad (which isn't helped by the sometimes non-sensical dialogue).
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