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* EnsembleDarkHorse: For being relatively minor characters, fans have taken a great liking to the Seventh Infantry, both the troops and their commander. For the commander, it's her professional appearance combined with her giddy reaction upon receiving the award. As for the troops, it's their loyalty to Cloud and how they act as temporary party members. Fans have expressed a strong desire to protect them when they were party members, trying hard to not let a single one die. People have also expressed an interest in seeing them again in the third game.
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: For being relatively minor characters, fans have taken a great liking to the Seventh Infantry, both the troops and their commander. For the commander, it's her professional appearance combined with her giddy reaction upon receiving the award.award, as well as her [[spoiler:knowing full well who's in Cloud's party, as well as knowing he was in SOLDIER, but hides their involvement from her superiors]]. As for the troops, it's their loyalty to Cloud and how they act as temporary party members. Fans have expressed a strong desire to protect them when they were party members, trying hard to not let a single one die. People have also expressed an interest in seeing them again in the third game.
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** Continuing a problem from ''Remake'', Barret's gunfire is streams of fire overlayed where the top barrel of the Gatling Gun is. While most of his weapons are still modeled to use the same approximate area, it creates oddities when he uses his last weapon that has the barrel in the middle of the gun not the top, creating an effect where fire comes out a place the gun doesn't have a barrel and not utilizing his actual opening.
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** In scenes where party members interact with beds, primarily the night in Kalm in Chapter 2 and the comatose Aerith in the Zack interlude scenes. The characters do not interact with the comforters shown on the beds at all; they lay ''on top'' of the comforter and have a seperate, much more plain blanket that shifts around as the character using it turns and moves, which then disappears when no longer needed. This is a consequence of cutscenes in the game being made with the game engine, where beds and the blankets on them are immovable props.
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** In scenes where party members interact with beds, primarily the night in Kalm in Chapter 2 and the comatose Aerith in the Zack interlude scenes. The scenes, the characters do not interact with the comforters shown on the beds at all; they lay ''on top'' of the comforter and have a seperate, much more plain blanket that shifts around as the character using it turns and moves, which then disappears when no longer needed. This is a consequence of cutscenes in the game being made with the game engine, where beds and the blankets on them are immovable props.
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** Most of the content of Chapter 18. In the original game, retrieving the Black Materia from the Temple of the Ancients was a dungeon along the way, where in this game that mission is built up as the climax of the game's adventure, with the party, Shinra, and Sephiroth all converging to find the Black Materia for their own ends. It was an open secret that Aerith's scene at the Forgotten City would take place in this game; in the original there was a large amount of travel between the party's adventure in the Temple and reaching the Forgotten City, where Aerith had left the party and was not available as a party member. With the buildup of reaching the Black Materia built up as the game's main goal and the status of the Temple being a Cetra construction, players would be forgiven for thinking that the Forgotten City's scenes would somehow be integrated directly into the Temple location, as there was no mention of any other location that needed to be reached. But into Chapter 18, after Cloud recovers, the player learns that Aerith had found a previously unheard-of city in the Shinra records in Nibelheim and had taken off to find it completely out of the blue, leading the player to a completely new location at the final hour.
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** In scenes where party members interact with beds, primarily the night in Kalm in Chapter 2 and the comatose Aerith in the Zack interlude scenes. The characters do not interact with the comforters shown on the beds at all; they lay ''on top'' of the comforter and have a seperate, much more plain blanket that shifts around as the character using it turns and moves, which then disappears when no longer needed. This is a consequence of cutscenes in the game being made with the game engine, where beds and the blankets on them are immovable props.
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** While the razing of Nibelheim in the prologue was generally well-received, one moment felt rather awkward. After watching his house blow up and his mother die, Cloud tries to crawl after Sephiroth who is quickly surrounded by the mayor and some other men. There is a good 5-10 seconds where they just nervously stand around him without doing anything, and even when he starts cutting them down, they still just nervously stand around waiting for their turn to die. But this might have been believable if they were carrying swords or clubs or other melee instruments (try to imagine rushing at a living legend with a sword as long as you are tall). What truly pushes this moment into narm territory is that they are all carrying rifles. And not a single one of them takes a single shot, even after he starts killing them one by one. Not helping matters is that during this part, you have to cycle through L2 and R2 to continue crawling. Many feel that a scene where the villagers you grew up with are being massacred while everything burns around you is not the most appropriate time for what's essentially a boring QTE. It can take you out of the moment.
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** While the razing of Nibelheim in the prologue was generally well-received, one particular moment felt rather is awkward. After watching his house blow is blown up and his mother die, Cloud tries to crawl begins crawling after Sephiroth, the camera shows Sephiroth who is quickly surrounded walking on only to be stopped by the mayor of the town and some other men. There three townsfolk, who are all pointing rifles at him. Despite the fact the town is a good 5-10 seconds where in flames, people are bloody and dead in the streets, and they '''know''' Sephiroth is responsible, they don't immediately shoot him on-sight, instead they just point their guns at him and nervously stand around spread out as he just stands there. They don't attempt to keep their distance from him without doing anything, so he can't attack them, and don't shoot even when he starts cutting ''starts slicing them down, they still just nervously stand around waiting for their turn to die. But this might have been believable if they were carrying swords or clubs or other melee instruments (try to imagine rushing at a living legend with a sword as long as you are tall). What truly pushes this moment into narm territory is that they are all carrying rifles. And not a single one of them takes a single shot, even after he starts killing them down one by one. Not helping matters one'', making them look like incompetent fools literally lining up to get slaughtered. To act to the awkwardness, the scene is a quicktime event that during this part, you have requires players to cycle through holding L2 and R2 to continue crawling. Many feel that a crawl closer, and if they delay the scene where drags out even longer without Sephiroth or the villagers you grew up with are being massacred while everything burns around you is not the most appropriate time for what's essentially a boring QTE. It can take you out of the moment.townsfolk doing anything.
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** The FinalBoss of the game has several attacks that manifest [[spoiler:Whispers]]. Sometimes this works, like sending out one to ensnare a party member, or having them burst out in the wake of another attack. However, the boss can also conjure tornadoes of them, summon pillars of them from the ground, and perhaps most silly of all, fire a continuous wave of them from their hands like a KamehameHadoken. It looks more than a little silly in what is otherwise an epic confrontation.
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** Yuffie's assassination attempt of Rufus requires the player to focus a target cursor on him three times. What makes an otherwise tense scene silly is two things. One - Yuffie can overhear Rufus talking to the party members, but they barely talk long enough for the first target to be aligned, after that the four standing in place staring at each other without a word, as though they're waiting for Yuffie to finish so the scene can progress. Two - players may recognize the targeting system used for this sequence is the same one used for darts in ''Remake'', and the idea of a fun minigame and an assassination attempt using the same mechanics is worth a laugh.
** The FinalBoss of the game has several attacks that manifest [[spoiler:Whispers]]. Sometimes this works, like sending out one to ensnare a party member, or having them burst out in the wake of another attack. However, the boss can also conjure tornadoes of them, summon pillars of them from the ground, and perhaps most silly of all, fire a continuous wave of them from their hands like a KamehameHadoken. It looks more than a littlesilly ridiculous in what is otherwise an epic confrontation.
** The FinalBoss of the game has several attacks that manifest [[spoiler:Whispers]]. Sometimes this works, like sending out one to ensnare a party member, or having them burst out in the wake of another attack. However, the boss can also conjure tornadoes of them, summon pillars of them from the ground, and perhaps most silly of all, fire a continuous wave of them from their hands like a KamehameHadoken. It looks more than a little
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** The Nibel Region is this for World Intel completion. There are only four towers, and they, along with the quests they reveal, are in pretty close proximity of each other. Because of how small the map is compared to the rest of the world, the player could stumble across them on accident while collecting Chocograss. The only roadblock is that the Protorelic sidequest doesn't unlock on the map until you progress the story in Nibelheim.
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** The Nibel Region is this for World Intel completion. There are only four towers, The region is much smaller than the others and they, along with the quests they reveal, are in pretty close proximity of each other. Because of how small the map is compared to the rest most of the world, intel objectives for Chadley are out in the player could stumble across them on accident while collecting Chocograss. open and fairly easy to reach. You can also find and tame the Chocobo of the region soon after arriving, which makes navigation much faster and easier. The only roadblock hiccup is that the Protorelic sidequest doesn't unlock on the map until you progress the story main quest in Nibelheim.Nibelheim, but everything else can be done before ever setting foot in the town and it'll only take an hour or so.
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** The appearance of Glenn Lodbrok counts, being a character exclusive to two recently-released mobile games. [[spoiler:While it does turn out to be Sephiroth using Lodbrok's appearance as a disguise, it was still unexpected nonetheless.]]
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** The appearance of Glenn Lodbrok counts, being a character exclusive to two recently-released mobile games. [[spoiler:While While it does turn out to be Sephiroth [[spoiler:Sephiroth using Lodbrok's appearance as a disguise, it was still unexpected nonetheless.]]nonetheless]].
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** The appearance of Glenn Lodbrok counts, being a character exclusive to two recently-released mobile games. [[spoiler:While it does turn out to be Sephiroth using Lodbrok's appearance as a disguise, it was still unexpected nonetheless.]]
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** The "7-Star Hotel" trophy requires donating every item to Johnny's treasure trove, which not only requires the prior completion of both the "Piano Virtuoso" and "Stealing The Show" trophies detailed above, but also requires the player complete every combat trial, every chocobo race, every Queen's Blood game and challenge, every Moogle challenge, every side quest, every photography challenge, every mini-game on both normal and (if there is one) hard mode, get an S rank in the "Loveless" play with each of the female party members in the role of Rosa, find every Play Arts model hidden on the world map, get an A rank in every Glide de Chocobo challenge, defeat Jules in the sit-up mini game, keep all of the Seventh alive during Chapter 4, take a perfect photo when prompted during Chapter 4, and destroy 10 boxes on a conveyor belt whilst controlling Cait Sith during Chapter 11, some of which provide no incentive towards their completion other than contributing to ''this'' trophy.
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** The "7-Star Hotel" trophy requires donating every item to Johnny's treasure trove, which not only requires the prior completion of both the "Piano Virtuoso" and "Stealing The Show" trophies detailed above, but also requires the player complete every combat trial, every chocobo race, every Queen's Blood game and challenge, every Moogle challenge, every side quest, every photography challenge, every mini-game on both normal and (if there is one) hard mode, get an S rank in the "Loveless" play with each of the female party members in the role of Rosa, find every Play Arts model hidden on the world map, get an A rank in every Glide de Chocobo challenge, defeat Jules in the sit-up mini game, keep all of the Seventh alive during Chapter 4, take a perfect photo when prompted during Chapter 4, and destroy 10 boxes on a conveyor belt whilst controlling Cait Sith during Chapter 11, 11 - some of which provide no incentive towards their completion other than contributing to ''this'' trophy.
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** Yuffie's Brumal Form, ATB assist and Skill master combination is found to be disgustingly overpowered. ATB assist allows one member to give the other characters a boost to their bars when that character makes a move, Skill master allows a character a new bar when they repeat the same skill, combined with the low cost and high speed of Brumal Form, one can have Yuffie in an unending loop of Brumal Form while filling the other two members at a rate of about six seconds, which is often times just long enough for them to be done using the last skill they used.
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** Yuffie's Brumal Form, ATB assist and assist, Skill master and Aerith's ATB ward combination is found to be disgustingly overpowered. ATB assist allows one member to give the other characters a boost to their bars when that character makes a move, Skill master allows a character a new bar when they repeat the same skill, combined with the low cost and high speed of Brumal Form, Form under the ATB ward and a haste boost for good measure, one can have Yuffie in an unending loop of Brumal Form while filling the other two members at a rate of about six seconds, which is often times just long enough for them to be done using the last skill they used.
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** Yuffie's Brumal Form, ATB assist and Skill master combination is found to be disgustingly overpowered. ATB assist allows one member to give the other characters a boost to their bars when that character makes a move, Skill master allows a character a new bar when they repeat the same skill, combined with the low cost and high speed of Brumal Form, one can have Yuffie in an unending loop of Brumal Form while filling the other two members at a rate of about six seconds, which is often times just long enough for them to be done using the last skill they used.
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** ''Rebirth'' changes the party's reason for visiting Nibelheim from just being the pursuit of Sephiroth to needing to access a Shinra database terminal in the abandoned manor. To get into the manor, Cloud and a couple of his allies head up Mt. Nibel to the reactor so they can get his keycard, and Cloud inserts it into a terminal so Cait Sith can scan it. While this is keeping in the original game also having you climb Mt. Nibel, once Cait Sith and those with him enter the manor, they encounter an AI of Hojo who drops them into his abandoned lab. What follows is a dungeon that is both unnecessary and [[ThatOneLevel annoying]] as the group fights their way past Hojo's leftover experiments to escape. The only purpose is serves is to let Cait Sith be the party leader for a chance, and to basically stall his group while Cloud and company make their way back down the mountain to meet up with them.
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** ''Rebirth'' changes the party's reason for visiting Nibelheim from just being the pursuit of Sephiroth to needing to access a Shinra database terminal in the abandoned manor. To get into the manor, Cloud and a couple of his allies head up Mt. Nibel to the reactor so they can get his keycard, and Cloud inserts it into a terminal so Cait Sith can scan it. While this is keeping in the original game also having you climb Mt. Nibel, once Cait Sith and those with him enter the manor, they encounter an AI of Hojo who drops them into his abandoned lab. What follows is a dungeon that is both unnecessary and [[ThatOneLevel annoying]] as the group fights their way past Hojo's leftover experiments to escape. The only purpose is it serves is to let Cait Sith be the party leader for a chance, and to basically stall his group while Cloud and company make their way back down the mountain to meet up with them.
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** The "7-Star Hotel" trophy requires donating every item to Johnny's treasure trove, which not only requires the prior completion of both the "Piano Virtuoso" and "Stealing The Show" trophies detailed above, but also requires the player complete every combat trial, every chocobo race, every Queen's Blood game and challenge, every Moogle challenge, every side quest, every photography challenge, every mini-game on both normal and (if there is one) hard mode, get an S rank in the "Loveless" play with each of the female party members in the role of Rosa, find every Play Arts model hidden on the world map, get an A rank in every Glide de Chocobo challenge, defeat Jules in the sit-up mini game, keep all of the Seventh alive during Chapter 4, take a perfect photo when prompted during Chapter 4, and destroy 10 boxes on a conveyor belt whilst controlling Cait Sith during Chapter 11 - some of which provide no incentive towards their completion other than contributing to ''this'' trophy.
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** The "7-Star Hotel" trophy requires donating every item to Johnny's treasure trove, which not only requires the prior completion of both the "Piano Virtuoso" and "Stealing The Show" trophies detailed above, but also requires the player complete every combat trial, every chocobo race, every Queen's Blood game and challenge, every Moogle challenge, every side quest, every photography challenge, every mini-game on both normal and (if there is one) hard mode, get an S rank in the "Loveless" play with each of the female party members in the role of Rosa, find every Play Arts model hidden on the world map, get an A rank in every Glide de Chocobo challenge, defeat Jules in the sit-up mini game, keep all of the Seventh alive during Chapter 4, take a perfect photo when prompted during Chapter 4, and destroy 10 boxes on a conveyor belt whilst controlling Cait Sith during Chapter 11 - 11, some of which provide no incentive towards their completion other than contributing to ''this'' trophy.
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** Despite Cloud [[spoiler:eventually remembering Zack and his name]], if you return to Gongaga to talk to the townsfolk, there's no new dialogue and no option to bring it up to anyone.
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** Despite Cloud [[spoiler:eventually remembering Zack and his name]], if you return to Gongaga to talk to the townsfolk, there's no there aren't any new dialogue dialogues and no option to bring it up to anyone.
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* ShipToShipCombat: Shipping wars over if Cloud should be with Tifa or Aerith, and if either girl ''truly'' loves him and he them, go back all the way to the original game, and ''Rebirth'' has only stoked the fires hotter than ever. For those supporting Cloud with Tifa, [[spoiler:they actually kiss in the "intimate" version of their Gold Saucer date, the first time Cloud has ''ever'' kissed either of them]]. For those supporting Cloud with Aerith, [[spoiler:they don't kiss, but instead hold hands with IntertwinedFingers, which is definitely a strong romantic gesture of its own, particularly in Japanese works]]. Regardless of the player's affection choices or Gold Saucer date, in the ending [[spoiler:Cloud and Aerith go on a "date" in a parallel version of Midgar, and hold hands and intertwine fingers again before she fades away after the boss battle with Sephiroth]]. Finally, the other Gold Saucer dates still feature one of the two girls as the topic of conversation (though Barret's is only implicitly referring to Aerith, and could be taken more generally), with Yuffie teasing Cloud about Tifa having a crush on him and Red XIII making a DeclarationOfProtection towards Aerith with Cloud. Far from definitively "killing" either of the two ships, ''Rebirth'' has given them both more fuel than ever. The relationship between Zack and Aerith also goes unresolved, as [[spoiler:while both are alive in the alternate timeline Aerith remains in a coma throughout all of Zack's story segments, though he is informed about Aerith's feelings for Cloud by Marlene and [[IWantByBelovedToBeHappy reacts supportively]]]].
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* ShipToShipCombat: Shipping wars over if Cloud should be with Tifa or Aerith, and if either girl ''truly'' loves him and he them, go back all the way to the original game, and ''Rebirth'' has only stoked the fires hotter than ever. For those supporting Cloud with Tifa, [[spoiler:they actually kiss in the "intimate" version of their Gold Saucer date, the first time Cloud has ''ever'' kissed either of them]]. For those supporting Cloud with Aerith, [[spoiler:they don't kiss, but instead hold hands with IntertwinedFingers, which is definitely a strong romantic gesture of its own, particularly in Japanese works]]. Regardless of the player's affection choices or Gold Saucer date, in the ending [[spoiler:Cloud and Aerith go on a "date" in a parallel version of Midgar, Midgar while an instrumental version of "No Promises to Keep" (titled "One Last Date - My Dream") plays throughout the sequence, and hold hands and intertwine fingers again before she fades away after the boss battle with Sephiroth]]. Finally, the other Gold Saucer dates still feature one of the two girls as the topic of conversation (though Barret's is only implicitly referring to Aerith, and could be taken more generally), with Yuffie teasing Cloud about Tifa having a crush on him and Red XIII making a DeclarationOfProtection towards Aerith with Cloud. Far from definitively "killing" either of the two ships, ''Rebirth'' has given them both more fuel than ever. The relationship between Zack and Aerith also goes unresolved, as [[spoiler:while both are alive in the alternate timeline Aerith remains in a coma throughout all of Zack's story segments, though he is informed about Aerith's feelings for Cloud by Marlene and [[IWantByBelovedToBeHappy reacts supportively]]]].
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** While the execution of the game's GainaxEnding is debated, it can't be denied that [[spoiler:fighting and beating down Sephiroth with a party of Cloud and Aerith can feel ''very'' satisfying, especially after just witnessing him kill her again (and him seemingly "cheating" to subvert Cloud's attempt to save her). Making it even more cathartic is that Sephiroth is visibly angered before the fight, admitting that he underestimated Aerith, and afterwards he's even ''more'' angered and retreats.]]
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** While the execution of the game's GainaxEnding is debated, it can't be denied that [[spoiler:fighting and beating down Sephiroth with a party of Cloud and Aerith can feel ''very'' satisfying, especially after just witnessing him kill her again (and him seemingly "cheating" (or at least one version of her) by using a timeline distortion to "cheat" and subvert Cloud's attempt to save her). her. Making it even more cathartic is that Sephiroth is visibly angered before the fight, admitting that he underestimated Aerith, and afterwards he's even ''more'' angered and retreats.]]retreats]].
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* ShipToShipCombat: Shipping wars over if Cloud should be with Tifa or Aerith, and if either girl ''truly'' loves him and he them, go back all the way to the original game, and ''Rebirth'' has only stoked the fires hotter than ever. For those supporting Cloud with Tifa, [[spoiler:they actually kiss in the "intimate" version of their Gold Saucer date, the first time Cloud has ''ever'' kissed either of them]]. For those supporting Cloud with Aerith, [[spoiler:they don't kiss, but instead hold hands with IntertwinedFingers, which is definitely a strong romantic gesture of its own, particularly in Japanese works]]. Regardless of the player's affection choices or Gold Saucer date, in the ending [[spoiler:Cloud and Aerith go on a "date" in a parallel version of Midgar, and hold hands and intertwine fingers again before she fades away after the boss battle with Sephiroth]]. Finally, the other Gold Saucer dates still feature one of the two girls as the topic of conversation (though Barret's is only implicitly referring to Aerith, and could be taken more generally), with Yuffie teasing Cloud about Tifa having a crush on him and Red XIII making a DeclarationOfProtection towards Aerith with Cloud. Far from definitively "killing" either of the two ships, ''Rebirth'' has given them both more fuel than ever. The relationship between Zack and Aerith also goes unresolved, as [[spoiler: while both are alive in the alternate timeline Aerith remains in a coma throughout all of Zack's story segments, though he is informed about Aerith's feelings for Cloud by Marlene and [[IWantByBelovedToBeHappy reacts supportively]].]]
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* ShipToShipCombat: Shipping wars over if Cloud should be with Tifa or Aerith, and if either girl ''truly'' loves him and he them, go back all the way to the original game, and ''Rebirth'' has only stoked the fires hotter than ever. For those supporting Cloud with Tifa, [[spoiler:they actually kiss in the "intimate" version of their Gold Saucer date, the first time Cloud has ''ever'' kissed either of them]]. For those supporting Cloud with Aerith, [[spoiler:they don't kiss, but instead hold hands with IntertwinedFingers, which is definitely a strong romantic gesture of its own, particularly in Japanese works]]. Regardless of the player's affection choices or Gold Saucer date, in the ending [[spoiler:Cloud and Aerith go on a "date" in a parallel version of Midgar, and hold hands and intertwine fingers again before she fades away after the boss battle with Sephiroth]]. Finally, the other Gold Saucer dates still feature one of the two girls as the topic of conversation (though Barret's is only implicitly referring to Aerith, and could be taken more generally), with Yuffie teasing Cloud about Tifa having a crush on him and Red XIII making a DeclarationOfProtection towards Aerith with Cloud. Far from definitively "killing" either of the two ships, ''Rebirth'' has given them both more fuel than ever. The relationship between Zack and Aerith also goes unresolved, as [[spoiler: while [[spoiler:while both are alive in the alternate timeline Aerith remains in a coma throughout all of Zack's story segments, though he is informed about Aerith's feelings for Cloud by Marlene and [[IWantByBelovedToBeHappy reacts supportively]].]]supportively]]]].
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* ShipToShipCombat: Shipping wars over if Cloud should be with Tifa or Aerith, and if either girl ''truly'' loves him and he them, go back all the way to the original game, and ''Rebirth'' has only stoked the fires hotter than ever. For those supporting Cloud with Tifa, [[spoiler:they actually kiss in the "intimate" version of their Gold Saucer date, the first time Cloud has ''ever'' kissed either of them]]. For those supporting Cloud with Aerith, [[spoiler:they don't kiss, but instead hold hands with IntertwinedFingers, which is definitely a strong romantic gesture of its own, particularly in Japanese works]]. Regardless of the player's affection choices or Gold Saucer date, in the ending [[spoiler:Cloud and Aerith go on a "date" in a parallel version of Midgar, and hold hands and intertwine fingers again before she fades away after the boss battle with Sephiroth]]. Finally, the other Gold Saucer dates still feature one of the two girls as the topic of conversation (though Barret's is only implicitly referring to Aerith, and could be taken more generally), with Yuffie teasing Cloud about Tifa having a crush on him and Red XIII making a DeclarationOfProtection towards Aerith with Cloud. Far from definitively "killing" either of the two ships, ''Rebirth'' has given them both more fuel than ever. The relationship between Zack and Aerith also goes unresolved, as [[spoiler: while both are alive in the alternate timeline Aerith remains in a coma throughout all of Zack's story segments, though he is informed about Aerith's feelings for Cloud by Marlene and [[IWantByBelovedToBeHappy reacts supportively]].
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* ShipToShipCombat: Shipping wars over if Cloud should be with Tifa or Aerith, and if either girl ''truly'' loves him and he them, go back all the way to the original game, and ''Rebirth'' has only stoked the fires hotter than ever. For those supporting Cloud with Tifa, [[spoiler:they actually kiss in the "intimate" version of their Gold Saucer date, the first time Cloud has ''ever'' kissed either of them]]. For those supporting Cloud with Aerith, [[spoiler:they don't kiss, but instead hold hands with IntertwinedFingers, which is definitely a strong romantic gesture of its own, particularly in Japanese works]]. Regardless of the player's affection choices or Gold Saucer date, in the ending [[spoiler:Cloud and Aerith go on a "date" in a parallel version of Midgar, and hold hands and intertwine fingers again before she fades away after the boss battle with Sephiroth]]. Finally, the other Gold Saucer dates still feature one of the two girls as the topic of conversation (though Barret's is only implicitly referring to Aerith, and could be taken more generally), with Yuffie teasing Cloud about Tifa having a crush on him and Red XIII making a DeclarationOfProtection towards Aerith with Cloud. Far from definitively "killing" either of the two ships, ''Rebirth'' has given them both more fuel than ever. The relationship between Zack and Aerith also goes unresolved, as [[spoiler: while both are alive in the alternate timeline Aerith remains in a coma throughout all of Zack's story segments, though he is informed about Aerith's feelings for Cloud by Marlene and [[IWantByBelovedToBeHappy reacts supportively]]. ]]
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* ShipToShipCombat: Shipping wars over if Cloud should be with Tifa or Aerith, and if either girl ''truly'' loves him and he them, go back all the way to the original game, and ''Rebirth'' has only stoked the fires hotter than ever. For those supporting Cloud with Tifa, [[spoiler:they actually kiss in the "intimate" version of their Gold Saucer date, the first time Cloud has ''ever'' kissed either of them]]. For those supporting Cloud with Aerith, [[spoiler:they don't kiss, but instead hold hands with IntertwinedFingers, which is definitely a strong romantic gesture of its own, particularly in Japanese works]]. Regardless of the player's affection choices or Gold Saucer date, in the ending [[spoiler:they go on a "date" in a parallel version of Midgar, and hold hands and intertwine fingers again before she fades away after the boss battle with Sephiroth]]. Finally, the other Gold Saucer dates still feature one of the two girls as the topic of conversation (though Barret's is only implicitly referring to Aerith, and could be taken more generally), with Yuffie teasing Cloud about Tifa having a crush on him and Red XIII making a DeclarationOfProtection towards Aerith with Cloud. Far from definitively "killing" either of the two ships, ''Rebirth'' has given them both more fuel than ever.
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* ShipToShipCombat: Shipping wars over if Cloud should be with Tifa or Aerith, and if either girl ''truly'' loves him and he them, go back all the way to the original game, and ''Rebirth'' has only stoked the fires hotter than ever. For those supporting Cloud with Tifa, [[spoiler:they actually kiss in the "intimate" version of their Gold Saucer date, the first time Cloud has ''ever'' kissed either of them]]. For those supporting Cloud with Aerith, [[spoiler:they don't kiss, but instead hold hands with IntertwinedFingers, which is definitely a strong romantic gesture of its own, particularly in Japanese works]]. Regardless of the player's affection choices or Gold Saucer date, in the ending [[spoiler:they [[spoiler:Cloud and Aerith go on a "date" in a parallel version of Midgar, and hold hands and intertwine fingers again before she fades away after the boss battle with Sephiroth]]. Finally, the other Gold Saucer dates still feature one of the two girls as the topic of conversation (though Barret's is only implicitly referring to Aerith, and could be taken more generally), with Yuffie teasing Cloud about Tifa having a crush on him and Red XIII making a DeclarationOfProtection towards Aerith with Cloud. Far from definitively "killing" either of the two ships, ''Rebirth'' has given them both more fuel than ever. The relationship between Zack and Aerith also goes unresolved, as [[spoiler: while both are alive in the alternate timeline Aerith remains in a coma throughout all of Zack's story segments, though he is informed about Aerith's feelings for Cloud by Marlene and [[IWantByBelovedToBeHappy reacts supportively]].
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* BreatherLevel: Chapter 6 has only two battles (not including if you choose to use the simulator), and is mostly taken up by character interactions and minigames.
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** Chapter 6 has only two battles (not including if you choose to use the simulator), and is mostly taken up by character interactions andminigames.minigames.
** The Nibel Region is this for World Intel completion. There are only four towers, and they, along with the quests they reveal, are in pretty close proximity of each other. Because of how small the map is compared to the rest of the world, the player could stumble across them on accident while collecting Chocograss. The only roadblock is that the Protorelic sidequest doesn't unlock on the map until you progress the story in Nibelheim.
** Chapter 6 has only two battles (not including if you choose to use the simulator), and is mostly taken up by character interactions and
** The Nibel Region is this for World Intel completion. There are only four towers, and they, along with the quests they reveal, are in pretty close proximity of each other. Because of how small the map is compared to the rest of the world, the player could stumble across them on accident while collecting Chocograss. The only roadblock is that the Protorelic sidequest doesn't unlock on the map until you progress the story in Nibelheim.
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That's not how Hollow is written. The lyrics simply tell the story of a broken and sorrowful man who laments his failure to save someone very important to him, wishing he had done a lot better and that he'd try even harder if given another chance, but also resigned to knowing that that person is gone and that he'll forever remain Hollow. It doesn't imply anything about being a puppet of destiny nor the idea that he already tried and failed again.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Listening to Hollow from ''Remake'' takes on a new twist after the events of this game. The songs lyrics that are from Cloud's perspective, are about someone who is controlled by destiny he cannot avoid vows to save someone who's bright smile gave them hope. But even after vowing to save them this time still fails in the end, and even when they are gone still sees their smile and gets significantly worse when he is forced to accept their death. Here, Cloud seemingly both fails and succeeds in saving Aerith, with the implications that doing so fractures his mind and makes him vulnerable to further manipulation from Sephiroth that will ultimately end with him utterly broken.
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** While the execution of the game's GainaxEnding is debated, it can't be denied that [[spoiler:fighting and beating down Sephiroth with a party of Cloud and Aerith can feel ''very'' satisfying, especially upon seeing the mighty One-Winged Angel brought down to his knees and looking pissed for a moment]].
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** While the execution of the game's GainaxEnding is debated, it can't be denied that [[spoiler:fighting and beating down Sephiroth with a party of Cloud and Aerith can feel ''very'' satisfying, especially upon seeing after just witnessing him kill her again (and him seemingly "cheating" to subvert Cloud's attempt to save her). Making it even more cathartic is that Sephiroth is visibly angered before the mighty One-Winged Angel brought down to his knees fight, admitting that he underestimated Aerith, and looking pissed for a moment]].afterwards he's even ''more'' angered and retreats.]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: Listening to Hollow from ''Remake'' takes on a new twist after the events of this game. The songs lyrics that are from Cloud's perspective, are about someone who is controlled by destiny he cannot avoid vows to save someone who's bright smile gave them hope. But even after vowing to save them this time still fails in the end, and even when they are gone still sees their smile and gets significantly worse when he is forced to accept their death. Here, Cloud seemingly both fails and succeeds in saving Aerith, with the implications that doing so fractures his mind and makes him vulnerable to further manipulation from Sephiroth that will ultimately end with him utterly broken.
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** In NewGamePlus you have the option to switch the outfits of party members. Understandably the developers didn't motion capture these alternate outfits and did it using the base outfits, which can result in oddities like Tifa doing animations for adjusting her gloves when she isn't wearing any, Yuffie resting her hand an inch above objects because her gauntlet is normally covering her hand, and so forth.
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** As in ''Remake'', it's possible for characters to get hit as they're charging attacks and they lose their ATB gauge and/or MP spent on that attack. But in ''Rebirth'', now this can also happen to Synergy Attacks if someone is KO'd as they start to use them, and depending on when in the animation they're KO'd, the attack may simply be canceled ''or'' it'll be considered "used", meaning the characters lose their Synergy charges and the next usage of that ability costs more synergy to use.
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** As in ''Remake'', it's possible for characters to get hit as they're charging attacks and they lose their ATB gauge and/or MP spent on that attack. But in ''Rebirth'', now this can also happen to Synergy Attacks if someone is KO'd as they start to use them, and depending on when in the animation they're KO'd, the attack may simply be canceled ''or'' it'll be considered "used", meaning the characters lose their Synergy charges and the next usage of that ability costs more synergy to use. And while Limit Breaks give the user invincibility while they execute, Synergy abilities do not, and though they usually interrupt enemies they hit, enemies not being hit can still attack and there is a few seconds during the start-up where the Synergy ability has not yet interrupted the target, and once again the ability will be considered "used" if someone is KO'd. Finally, there's the issue of bosses with cinematic attacks - even if you order your Synergy command before the boss calls out the cinematic attack, if the Synergy ability doesn't interrupt them and the cinematic attack goes off, the Synergy ability won't get to finish and your characters won't get the benefits from it.
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** A number of players had a DoubleTake at hearing Red's/Nanaki's real voice and took umbrage with it, claiming that ''Rebirth'' had somehow taken creative liberties that disrespect his depiction in the original game. But Nanaki is a teenager by his species' standards even in the original ''Final Fantasy VII'' and used a different inflection and style of speech to be taken seriously. Max Mittelman's performance reflects this now that Nanaki is in a fully voiced game.
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** A number of players had a DoubleTake at hearing Red's/Nanaki's real voice and took umbrage with it, claiming that ''Rebirth'' had somehow taken creative liberties that disrespect his depiction in the original game. But Nanaki is a teenager by his species' standards even in the original ''Final Fantasy VII'' and used a different inflection and style of speech to be taken seriously.seriously (though due to the difference between Japanese and English, it would be hard to properly reflect in the original given lack of voice acting even if the original's translation didn't have dubious choices). Max Mittelman's performance reflects this now that Nanaki is in a fully voiced game.
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** The official song of the game, ''No Promises to Keep'', while intended according to developer interviews to be Aerith singing about her newfound sense of found family with the Avalanche crew, some have theorized it to be about her feelings for Cloud. This was exacerbated by singer Loren Allred stating as much before ''Rebirth'' [[WordOfGod scenario writer Kazushige Nojima]] later clarified that it was not and that it was the former.
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** The official song of the game, ''No Promises to Keep'', while intended according to developer interviews to be Aerith singing about her newfound sense of found family with the Avalanche crew, some have theorized it to be about her feelings for Cloud. This was exacerbated by singer Loren Allred stating as much before ''Rebirth'' [[WordOfGod scenario writer Kazushige Nojima]] later clarifying that it was not and that it was the former.
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** The official song of the game, ''No Promises to Keep'', while intended according to developer interviews to be Aerith singing about her newfound sense of found family with the Avalanche crew, some have theorized it to be about her feelings for Cloud. This was exacerbated by singer Loren Allred stating as much before ''Rebirth'' [[WordOfGod scenario writer Kazushige Nojima]] later clarifying clarified that it was not and that it was the former.
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** The official song of the game, ''No Promises to Keep'', while intended according to developer interviews to be Aerith singing about Cloud, has been theorized by Cloud and Tifa shippers and those not keen on seeing Cloud's relationship with Aerith as romantic in any capacity to be instead about Aerith's longing for Zack. This is tied to interpretations within these fan circles positing that Aerith was purely attracted to the amnesiac Cloud acting like Zack rather than Cloud's true self.
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** The official song of the game, ''No Promises to Keep'', while intended according to developer interviews to be Aerith singing about Cloud, has been her newfound sense of found family with the Avalanche crew, some have theorized by Cloud and Tifa shippers and those not keen on seeing Cloud's relationship with Aerith as romantic in any capacity it to be instead about Aerith's longing her feelings for Zack. Cloud. This is tied to interpretations within these fan circles positing was exacerbated by singer Loren Allred stating as much before ''Rebirth'' [[WordOfGod scenario writer Kazushige Nojima]] later clarifying that Aerith it was purely attracted to not and that it was the amnesiac Cloud acting like Zack rather than Cloud's true self.former.
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** Cloud's getting some under the Highwind next game [[labelnote:Explanation]]In Tifa's intimate date during Chapter 12, Cloud expresses his feelings and kisses her. Many note that if they are going that far in this game, their night under the Highwind is probably going to go even further, depicting them having, likely censored, sex.[[/labelnote]]
