History YMMV / FinalFantasyVIII

21st Aug '16 7:58:09 AM Valiona
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Squall is not only depressed, but also a DeathSeeker. He does some ''idiotically'' dangerous things throughout the game, which most view as a result of his sheer determination and [[TheHero instinct towards heroism]], but in Disc 3, he basically says he never intended to be a [=SeeD=] and he doesn't really like it. There's a very likely chance that in his subconscious he's more than willing to do things like jump down multiple stories to save friends and carry a girl on his back across a body of water the size of the Atlantic ocean because those actions will very likely result in his death.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Squall is not only depressed, but also a DeathSeeker. He does some ''idiotically'' dangerous things throughout the game, which most view as a result of his sheer determination and [[TheHero instinct towards heroism]], but in Disc 3, he basically says he never intended to be a [=SeeD=] and he doesn't really like it. There's a very likely chance that in his subconscious he's more than willing to do things like jump down multiple stories to save friends and carry a girl on his back across bridge spanning a body of water the size of the Atlantic ocean Ocean because those actions will very likely result in his death.



** The Draw System is [[GameBreaker easily exploitable]], and grinding for spells is slow and painful.

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** The Draw System is [[GameBreaker easily exploitable]], and grinding for spells is slow and painful. There's a Magic Booster system in the 2013 PC release that gives you 100 of most low and mid level spells, but while many fans either like it or think it takes away from the challenge, others believe that its addition proves that the Draw System was poorly designed to begin with.



** The FinalBoss selects your party for you at random. Not even Squall is immune from this. And given how easy it is to swap Junctions from character to character, you probably don't have six characters' worth of spells stocked up, much less proper GF coverage...

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** The FinalBoss selects your party for you at random. Not even Squall is immune from this. And given how easy it is to swap Junctions from character to character, you probably don't have six characters' worth of spells stocked up, much less proper GF coverage...coverage. It's possible to change your layout by killing your own members and waiting until they're "absorbed into time" and replaced with someone you want to use, but if that happens to your favorite party members, they're gone forever.
20th Aug '16 9:14:31 AM Bourne~Endeavor
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** The game itself has largely been looked upon more positively, in particular its junction system and characters. Many see a lot of criticism unfairly levied at it solely for ''not'' being FFVII.
30th Jul '16 1:31:30 PM Valiona
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* BrokenBase: The 2013 re-release for Steam includes a "Magic Booster," which gives every character in the party 100 of most low- to mid-level spells. The fanbase is divided between those who see it as a great way to avoid having to repeatedly draw spells, those who [[StopHavingFunGuys don't like how it takes away from the challenge]], and those who think that the apparent need for a feature like this reflects badly on the game.
14th Jul '16 12:05:22 PM Anddrix
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* AmericansHateTingle: Rinoa is beloved in Japan, but in the American fanbase she is something of a BaseBreaker.
** Which is at least partly due to the translation. A lot of Rinoa's dialog that was intended to be cute and childlike, highlighting her innocence compared to the military-trained [=SeeDs=], tended to get replaced with lines that just made her sound like a spoiled brat.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Rinoa is beloved in Japan, but in the American fanbase she is something of a BaseBreaker.
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BaseBreakingCharacter. This is at least partly due to the translation. A lot of Rinoa's dialog that was intended to be cute and childlike, highlighting her innocence compared to the military-trained [=SeeDs=], tended to get replaced with lines that just made her sound like a spoiled brat.
1st Jul '16 2:08:04 PM Delphi
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** While the English translation on the surface looks more polished than ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s, fans comparing the original Japanese script with the translation revealed a number of serious issues, like the changing of Rinoa's personality or the complete butchering of Ultimecia's speeches for no apparent reason.

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** While the English translation on the surface looks more polished than ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s, fans comparing the original Japanese script with the translation revealed a number of serious issues, like the changing of Rinoa's personality or the complete butchering of Ultimecia's speeches for no apparent reason.reason.
** The "hot dogs" Zell lusts after were originally filled breads, which is why that pile of hot dogs at the end have no visible wieners.
20th Jun '16 9:56:27 AM longWriter
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* AnnoyingVideoGameHelper: Odin can be like this, sometimes. Since there's no way to wave him off, if he appears when you're trying to farm rare items or magic from enemies, he sometimes winds up killing your prey before you can steal/draw what you came for. Players farming Marlboro tentacles may wind up wishing they'd held off on getting Odin until after they got what they needed, for example.



* StopHelpingMe: Odin can be like this, sometimes. Since there's no way to wave him off, if he appears when you're trying to farm rare items or magic from enemies, he sometimes winds up killing your prey before you can steal/draw what you came for. Players farming Marlboro tentacles may wind up wishing they'd held off on getting Odin until after they got what they needed, for example.
13th Jun '16 5:06:44 PM Sanokal
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** Raijin and Fujin as well.

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** Raijin and Fujin as well.are AffablyEvil and generally hilarious PunchClockVillains, and they stick with Seifer through thick and thin simply because they're his friends. Fujin even tries to talk Seifer out of his villainy with a heartwarming and tear-jerking speech.
13th May '16 1:24:09 AM karategal
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** "Armageddon Fist" for a popular AwesomeYetPractical strategy regarding Zell's LimitBreak.

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** "Armageddon Fist" for a popular AwesomeYetPractical SimpleYetAwesome strategy regarding Zell's LimitBreak.



** Early on in the game, if you know how[[note]]challenge a high-ranking Triple Triad player, like Zell's mom, and keep winning Abyss Worm cards,then refine those into Windmills[[/note]], you can get 100 Tornados and junction it to Squall's Strength, sending his Strength shooting up over 100 and making him do over 1000 damage a hit. Even bosses only have a few thousand HP at best. The game pretty much becomes a cakewalk until Disc 3.

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** Early on in the game, if you know how[[note]]challenge a high-ranking Triple Triad player, like Zell's mom, and keep winning Abyss Worm cards,then cards, then refine those into Windmills[[/note]], you can get 100 Tornados and junction it to Squall's Strength, sending his Strength shooting up over 100 and making him do over 1000 damage a hit. Even bosses only have a few thousand HP at best. The game pretty much becomes a cakewalk until Disc 3.



* HarsherInHindsight: With a dash of {{Squick}}, Julia and Laguna. The two were ''this'' close to hooking up, concept art depicting "Julia ''Loire's''" tombstone implies they might have been planned to during development, and the game's main theme and love song for Squall and Rinoa was written by Julia for Laguna. We know Julia is Rinoa's mother, and it's heavily implied [[spoiler:Laguna is Squall's father]]...think about that for a moment. [[spoiler:You're playing a game where the main couple's parents, both in-universe and in the real world, might have gotten together themselves if things had gone differently]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: With a dash of {{Squick}}, Julia and Laguna. The two were ''this'' close to hooking up, concept art depicting "Julia ''Loire's''" tombstone implies they might have been planned to during development, and the game's main theme and love song for Squall and Rinoa was written by Julia for Laguna. We know Julia is Rinoa's mother, and it's heavily implied [[spoiler:Laguna is Squall's father]]... think about that for a moment. [[spoiler:You're playing a game where the main couple's parents, both in-universe and in the real world, might have gotten together themselves if things had gone differently]].



** [[BonusBoss Omega Weapon]] has Those ''Two'' Attacks, one which deals exactly 9998 damage (which means a character must have the highest possible [=HP=] to survive - and then they're left with 1 [=HP=]) and another, which ''will'' kill everyone unless they have invincibility or the "Defend" command.

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** [[BonusBoss Omega Weapon]] has Those ''Two'' Attacks, one which deals exactly 9998 damage (which means a character must have the highest possible [=HP=] to survive - -- and then they're left with 1 [=HP=]) and another, which ''will'' kill everyone unless they have invincibility or the "Defend" command.



** During disc two, it's revealed that [[spoiler:with the exception of Rinoa, the ''entire party'' ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And Seifer]]) were not only orphans, but grew up in the same orphanage. And none of them, bar Irvine, remember this because using the GF causes the user to gradually lose their memories. Whilst the idea of forgetting your childhood friends is upsetting, the three who get it the worst are Squall, Seifer & Irvine.]]
*** [[spoiler:Squall & Seifer were never adopted, and were simply enlisted at Balamb Garden instead of getting to grow up with a loving family; on top of that, Squall is forcibly separated from Ellone & becomes the self-reliant recluse we first meet at the start of the game because he didn't want to lose anyone close to him again.]]
*** Quistis just can't win. Despite the fact she's actually a child prodigy, her emotional state is actually very fragile. [[spoiler: You learn later it's at least partially because she was torn away from Squall and the other orphans she tried to care for and because of it never got along with her new adopted family. She came to [=SeeD=] to start over, rose through the ranks, and then thanks to GF induced memory loss, forgot Squall but still felt so attached to him she ended up sabotaging her own career.]]

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** During disc two, Disc 2, it's revealed that [[spoiler:with the exception of Rinoa, the ''entire party'' ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And and Seifer]]) were not only orphans, but grew up in the same orphanage. And none of them, bar Irvine, remember this because using the GF causes the user to gradually lose their memories. Whilst the idea of forgetting your childhood friends is upsetting, the three who get it the worst are Squall, Seifer & Seifer, and Irvine.]]
*** [[spoiler:Squall & and Seifer were never adopted, and were simply enlisted at Balamb Garden instead of getting to grow up with a loving family; family. And on top of that, Squall is forcibly separated from Ellone & and becomes the self-reliant recluse we first meet at the start of the game because he didn't want to lose anyone close to him again.]]
*** Quistis just can't win. Despite the fact she's actually a child prodigy, her emotional state is actually very fragile. [[spoiler: You learn later that it's at least partially because she was torn away from Squall and the other orphans she tried to care for and because of it this, she never got along with her new adopted family. She came to [=SeeD=] to start over, rose through the ranks, and then thanks to GF induced memory loss, forgot Squall but still felt so attached to him she ended up sabotaging her own career.]]
8th Apr '16 1:31:45 PM Zaptech
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** Subverted with the English translation, which on the surface looks more polished than ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s; however, fans comparing the original Japanese script with the translation revealed a number of serious issues, like the changing of Rinoa's personality or the complete butchering of Ultimecia's speeches for no apparent reason.

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** Subverted with While the English translation, which translation on the surface looks more polished than ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s; however, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s, fans comparing the original Japanese script with the translation revealed a number of serious issues, like the changing of Rinoa's personality or the complete butchering of Ultimecia's speeches for no apparent reason.
10th Dec '15 8:42:51 PM DesignatedNPC
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** While the English translation on the surface looks more polished than ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s, fans comparing the original Japanese script with the translation revealed a number of serious issues, like the changing of Rinoa's personality or the complete butchering of Ultimecia's speeches for no apparent reason.

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** While Subverted with the English translation translation, which on the surface looks more polished than ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s; however, fans comparing the original Japanese script with the translation revealed a number of serious issues, like the changing of Rinoa's personality or the complete butchering of Ultimecia's speeches for no apparent reason.
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