History YMMV / FinalFantasyVIII

20th Jun '16 9:56:27 AM longWriter
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* AnnoyingVideoGameHelper: Odin can be like this, sometimes. Since there's no way to wave him off, if he appears when you're trying to farm rare items or magic from enemies, he sometimes winds up killing your prey before you can steal/draw what you came for. Players farming Marlboro tentacles may wind up wishing they'd held off on getting Odin until after they got what they needed, for example.



* StopHelpingMe: Odin can be like this, sometimes. Since there's no way to wave him off, if he appears when you're trying to farm rare items or magic from enemies, he sometimes winds up killing your prey before you can steal/draw what you came for. Players farming Marlboro tentacles may wind up wishing they'd held off on getting Odin until after they got what they needed, for example.
13th Jun '16 5:06:44 PM Sanokal
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** Raijin and Fujin as well.

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** Raijin and Fujin as well.are AffablyEvil and generally hilarious PunchClockVillains, and they stick with Seifer through thick and thin simply because they're his friends. Fujin even tries to talk Seifer out of his villainy with a heartwarming and tear-jerking speech.
13th May '16 1:24:09 AM karategal
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** "Armageddon Fist" for a popular AwesomeYetPractical strategy regarding Zell's LimitBreak.

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** "Armageddon Fist" for a popular AwesomeYetPractical SimpleYetAwesome strategy regarding Zell's LimitBreak.



** Early on in the game, if you know how[[note]]challenge a high-ranking Triple Triad player, like Zell's mom, and keep winning Abyss Worm cards,then refine those into Windmills[[/note]], you can get 100 Tornados and junction it to Squall's Strength, sending his Strength shooting up over 100 and making him do over 1000 damage a hit. Even bosses only have a few thousand HP at best. The game pretty much becomes a cakewalk until Disc 3.

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** Early on in the game, if you know how[[note]]challenge a high-ranking Triple Triad player, like Zell's mom, and keep winning Abyss Worm cards,then cards, then refine those into Windmills[[/note]], you can get 100 Tornados and junction it to Squall's Strength, sending his Strength shooting up over 100 and making him do over 1000 damage a hit. Even bosses only have a few thousand HP at best. The game pretty much becomes a cakewalk until Disc 3.



* HarsherInHindsight: With a dash of {{Squick}}, Julia and Laguna. The two were ''this'' close to hooking up, concept art depicting "Julia ''Loire's''" tombstone implies they might have been planned to during development, and the game's main theme and love song for Squall and Rinoa was written by Julia for Laguna. We know Julia is Rinoa's mother, and it's heavily implied [[spoiler:Laguna is Squall's father]]...think about that for a moment. [[spoiler:You're playing a game where the main couple's parents, both in-universe and in the real world, might have gotten together themselves if things had gone differently]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: With a dash of {{Squick}}, Julia and Laguna. The two were ''this'' close to hooking up, concept art depicting "Julia ''Loire's''" tombstone implies they might have been planned to during development, and the game's main theme and love song for Squall and Rinoa was written by Julia for Laguna. We know Julia is Rinoa's mother, and it's heavily implied [[spoiler:Laguna is Squall's father]]... think about that for a moment. [[spoiler:You're playing a game where the main couple's parents, both in-universe and in the real world, might have gotten together themselves if things had gone differently]].



** [[BonusBoss Omega Weapon]] has Those ''Two'' Attacks, one which deals exactly 9998 damage (which means a character must have the highest possible [=HP=] to survive - and then they're left with 1 [=HP=]) and another, which ''will'' kill everyone unless they have invincibility or the "Defend" command.

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** [[BonusBoss Omega Weapon]] has Those ''Two'' Attacks, one which deals exactly 9998 damage (which means a character must have the highest possible [=HP=] to survive - -- and then they're left with 1 [=HP=]) and another, which ''will'' kill everyone unless they have invincibility or the "Defend" command.



** During disc two, it's revealed that [[spoiler:with the exception of Rinoa, the ''entire party'' ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And Seifer]]) were not only orphans, but grew up in the same orphanage. And none of them, bar Irvine, remember this because using the GF causes the user to gradually lose their memories. Whilst the idea of forgetting your childhood friends is upsetting, the three who get it the worst are Squall, Seifer & Irvine.]]
*** [[spoiler:Squall & Seifer were never adopted, and were simply enlisted at Balamb Garden instead of getting to grow up with a loving family; on top of that, Squall is forcibly separated from Ellone & becomes the self-reliant recluse we first meet at the start of the game because he didn't want to lose anyone close to him again.]]
*** Quistis just can't win. Despite the fact she's actually a child prodigy, her emotional state is actually very fragile. [[spoiler: You learn later it's at least partially because she was torn away from Squall and the other orphans she tried to care for and because of it never got along with her new adopted family. She came to [=SeeD=] to start over, rose through the ranks, and then thanks to GF induced memory loss, forgot Squall but still felt so attached to him she ended up sabotaging her own career.]]

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** During disc two, Disc 2, it's revealed that [[spoiler:with the exception of Rinoa, the ''entire party'' ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And and Seifer]]) were not only orphans, but grew up in the same orphanage. And none of them, bar Irvine, remember this because using the GF causes the user to gradually lose their memories. Whilst the idea of forgetting your childhood friends is upsetting, the three who get it the worst are Squall, Seifer & Seifer, and Irvine.]]
*** [[spoiler:Squall & and Seifer were never adopted, and were simply enlisted at Balamb Garden instead of getting to grow up with a loving family; family. And on top of that, Squall is forcibly separated from Ellone & and becomes the self-reliant recluse we first meet at the start of the game because he didn't want to lose anyone close to him again.]]
*** Quistis just can't win. Despite the fact she's actually a child prodigy, her emotional state is actually very fragile. [[spoiler: You learn later that it's at least partially because she was torn away from Squall and the other orphans she tried to care for and because of it this, she never got along with her new adopted family. She came to [=SeeD=] to start over, rose through the ranks, and then thanks to GF induced memory loss, forgot Squall but still felt so attached to him she ended up sabotaging her own career.]]
8th Apr '16 1:31:45 PM Zaptech
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** Subverted with the English translation, which on the surface looks more polished than ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s; however, fans comparing the original Japanese script with the translation revealed a number of serious issues, like the changing of Rinoa's personality or the complete butchering of Ultimecia's speeches for no apparent reason.

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** Subverted with While the English translation, which translation on the surface looks more polished than ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s; however, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s, fans comparing the original Japanese script with the translation revealed a number of serious issues, like the changing of Rinoa's personality or the complete butchering of Ultimecia's speeches for no apparent reason.
10th Dec '15 8:42:51 PM DesignatedNPC
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** While the English translation on the surface looks more polished than ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s, fans comparing the original Japanese script with the translation revealed a number of serious issues, like the changing of Rinoa's personality or the complete butchering of Ultimecia's speeches for no apparent reason.

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** While Subverted with the English translation translation, which on the surface looks more polished than ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s, ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s; however, fans comparing the original Japanese script with the translation revealed a number of serious issues, like the changing of Rinoa's personality or the complete butchering of Ultimecia's speeches for no apparent reason.
10th Dec '15 8:38:50 PM DesignatedNPC
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*** When they first meet at the [=SeeD=] graduation ball, Rinoa behaves a bit weird, trying fake hypnotism and dragging him to the dance floor... but [[FridgeBrilliance if you think about it]], her behavior could be due to her trying to cheer up the gloomy kid standing aside after a very rough day.

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*** When they first meet at the [=SeeD=] graduation ball, Rinoa behaves a bit weird, trying fake hypnotism and dragging him to the dance floor... but [[FridgeBrilliance if you think about it]], her behavior could be due to her trying to cheer up the gloomy kid standing aside alone after a very rough day.



** Which is at least partly due to the translation. A lot of Rinoa's dialog that was intended to be cute and childlike (highlighting her innocence compared to the military-trained [=SeeDs=]) tended to get replaced with lines that just made her sound like a spoiled rotten brat.

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** Which is at least partly due to the translation. A lot of Rinoa's dialog that was intended to be cute and childlike (highlighting childlike, highlighting her innocence compared to the military-trained [=SeeDs=]) [=SeeDs=], tended to get replaced with lines that just made her sound like a spoiled rotten brat.
8th Dec '15 10:52:33 AM rufusluciusivan
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* BreatherBoss: Abadon, the boss you fight right before Esthar, mainly because he's an undead. [[ReviveKillsZombie Just hit him with healing spells]] and he will be down in a few turns. Squall even tells you the strategy to defeat it.
27th Oct '15 9:48:01 PM Drgonzo
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* StopHelpingMe: Odin can be like this, sometimes. Since there's no way to wave him off, if he appears when you're trying to farm rare items or magic from enemies, he sometimes winds up killing your prey before you can steal/draw what you came for. Players farming Marlboro tentacles may wind up wishing they'd held off on getting Odin until after they got what they needed, for example.
13th Sep '15 8:40:23 AM PicardsDouble
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*** Furthermore, there also exists a "Crisis Level" which determines how powerful the Limit Break will be, among other things; Aura boosts ''that'' too, so not only do they happen more, often, they're the more powerful versions too. Combining [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs Aura with low health]] only makes this more profound.

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*** Furthermore, there also exists a "Crisis Level" which determines how powerful the Limit Break will be, among other things; Aura boosts ''that'' too, so not only do they happen more, more often, they're the more powerful versions too. Combining [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs Aura with low health]] only makes this more profound.profound.
**** Squall uses his finishing strikes more often (equal chance of each), and uses longer combos.
**** Zell gets more time to Duel
**** Irvine gets more time to Shoot
**** Rinoa increases the likelihood of the better Angelo moves being used (Invincible Moon and Wishing Star)[[spoiler: , Angel Wing isn't effected.]]
**** Quistis it depends on the ability, but the result is better regardless.
**** Selphie gets multicasts of the top spells more often, and the spells unique to her come more often.
13th Sep '15 8:34:20 AM PicardsDouble
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*** Furthermore, there also exists a "Crisis Level" which determines how powerful the Limit Break will be, among other things; Aura boosts ''that'' too, so not only do they happen more, often, they're the more powerful versions too. Combining [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs Aura with low health]] only makes this more profound.
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