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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Leigh Janiak was quick to say she envisioned more films and a potential TV series, alleviating some fan worries that the mythology around the other killers wasn't fully explored. A hypothetical TV series would also present an opportunity to adapt characters and stories from the books, addressing concerns over the film trilogy being an InNameOnly adaptation.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Leigh Janiak was quick to say she envisioned more films and a potential TV series, alleviating some fan worries that the mythology around the other killers wasn't fully explored. A hypothetical TV series would also present an opportunity to adapt characters and stories from the books, addressing concerns over the film trilogy being an InNameOnly adaptation. Sure enough, more were announced in 2022.



* JerkassWoobie: Deena, although the 'Jerkass' part only really counts in the first movie. She's a cynical nihilistic young woman who is actually quite mean to her ex and causes a car accident because of her immature reaction to a prank. However, her mother appears to be out of the picture, her dad is a deadbeat alcholic, and she appears to have to parent both herself and her brother. She's also a lesbian who, although she loved Sam, could not ignore that she was always too afraid to be fully out with her. Then early in the film, she sees Sam with a boy, and this hurts her so much she goes under the bleachers to cry. And that's even before the killers start attacking!



* TheWoobie: Sam mentions that her parents divorced, and her mother forced her to move away from her friends and girlfriend (who then dumped her because of where she lived). Her mother is also viciously homophobic, meaning she was basically forced back into the closet for the sake of a quiet life. Then she ends up targeted by an army of undead, unstoppable killers, and at one point even her own friends want her to die to stop everything. [[spoiler: While she [[EarnYourHappyEnding earns her happy ending]], she also spends two films in the trilogy being {{Mind Rape}}d and will likely have to live with the knowledge that Kate and Simon died trying to protect her]].



* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Could Sam be bisexual? While Peter could just be TheBeard, and she's only with him due to pressure from her mother, do Deena's statements that she was afraid to be open about their relationships point to Sam having an attraction to men too? Given the [[NoBisexuals 90s attitudes towards bisexuality]], perhaps she is but doesn't know it, and that only adds to her turmoil.



* OneSceneWonder: Heather of course! She's set up as the DecoyProtagonist just like Casey Becker from ''{{Film/Scream 1996}}'', only for her sudden and tragic death to establish that AnyoneCanDie.

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** Sam and Josh are shocked when Deena reveals she stole Officer Kopinski's gun. Kate on the other hand?
--> '''Sam:''' Are you crazy? You stole a cop's gun!
--> '''Kate:''' (''excited'') Fuck yeah, she did.
** Simon realises that everyone had simultaneous hook-ups while he was having ADateWithRosiePalms. Kate insists that her and Josh were "barely first base".
* OneSceneWonder: Heather of course! She's set up as the DecoyProtagonist just like Casey Becker from ''{{Film/Scream 1996}}'', only for her sudden and tragic death to establish that AnyoneCanDie. Maya Hawke provides plenty of deadpan wit and bubbly charm in a short amount of time.
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** The opening lines are Heather excitedly reading out the blurb of a book someone's buying, trying to do an ominous voice. The uninterested customer deadpans that the book is "trash" she's buying for her stepdaughter. Heather gives her the finger as soon as her back is turned.
** Kate gets her babysitting charges to help sort her drugs! She then warns them not to take any of the pills because they'd probably die and "your parents would be so, so sad". Julia Rehwald says it like she's talking about an irritating stain on the carpet.
** It's revealed that Simon had to do an entire shift at the grocery store wearing the t-shirt that Sam had vomited blood on the previous night.
** Simon defends being taken in by Ruby Lane so easily because [[ImAManICantHelpIt "she was hot!"]]


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** Cindy's rant about how Alice and Ziggy hate her gets funnier the more irritated she becomes. She's particularly annoyed at being thought of as someone who "hates fun" and Emily Rudd grumbles "[[ITakeOffenceToThatLastOne I like fun! I LIKE IT!]]". Even Tommy finds the rant more amusing than worrying.
** The RunningGag of everyone pointing out whenever Cindy swears reaches its payoff when she delivers a PreMortemOneLiner to [[spoiler: Tommy]].
--> '''Ziggy:''' You swore.
--> '''Cindy:''' ...it's becoming a habit.
** It's BlackComedy at its finest but [[spoiler: Gary getting his head chopped off]] just as Alice is being helped up. The fact that she, with an ankle so badly injured ''bone'' is sticking out of it, is dropped back onto the ground (which is implied to be covered with people's feces, being below an outhouse) and [[spoiler: Gary's decapitated body]] lands right on top of her bad leg is hysterical.


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* HilariousInHindsight: While there were already many similarities between Ziggy and Sadie Sink's character Max on ''Series/StrangerThings'', that show's fourth season, which aired the next year would have several elements of ''Fear Street''; such as a father running off, an alcoholic mother, a DeadlyNosebleed foreshadowing her supposed death at the hands of a supernatural creature and [[spoiler: a twist in which she becomes the first person in the mythology to survive the villain]].

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* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: While Ziggy was well-received as a protagonist, there were a few complaints that Sadie Sink just recycled her [[TypeCasting character]] from ''Series/StrangerThings'' in a different decade.
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Alice]] seems to be set up as stereotypical stoner slasher fodder. However, she quickly grows past that point, displaying numerous HiddenDepths and a great demeanor when dealing with [[spoiler: [[AxCrazy Tommy]]. However, she's sadly killed with an axe strike to the chest before she can join Cindy and Ziggy in trying to put an end to the Shadyside curse.]]

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* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: While Ziggy was well-received as a protagonist, there were a few complaints that Sadie Sink just recycled her [[TypeCasting character]] from ''Series/StrangerThings'' in a different decade.
decade. Hilariously, ''Stranger Things'' Season 4 would then incorporate several aspects of Ziggy into Max - such as her father leaving (although stepfather in this case), her mother becoming an alcoholic, a DeadlyNosebleed signalling a supernatural death, [[spoiler: being saved from certain death and becoming the first character in that mythology to survive said encounter, and having a vintage pop song play a hand in saving her.]]
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[[spoiler:Alice]] seems to be set up as stereotypical stoner slasher fodder. However, she quickly grows past that point, displaying numerous HiddenDepths and a great demeanor when dealing with [[spoiler: [[AxCrazy Tommy]]. However, she's sadly killed with an axe strike to the chest before she can join Cindy and Ziggy in trying to put an end to the Shadyside curse.]]]]
** Once [[spoiler: Cindy]] has TookALevelInBadass, dispatching [[spoiler: Tommy]] ''twice'', even decapitating him with a shovel - she prepares to pull a HeroicSacrifice to save [[spoiler: Ziggy. And then it's shortly revealed that Cindy is not in fact the survivor, as she is murdered brutally by the Shadyside killers]].
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* ValuesDissonance: ''Door of Death'' takes place in the 1850s and features Jake Fear's FreudianExcuse being that he was manipulated and exploited by his young wife Cassandra Ryan. The problem is, Cassandra was confirmed to be 17 and Jake was in his sixties when they got married. That the story's trying to make us sympathize with a man who married a girl old enough to be his granddaughter (even if the age gap between them wasn't considered much of an issue in the 1850s) can make it hard to feel sorry for Jake, regardless if Cassandra remorselessly screwed him over. It just makes it seem like a shameless teenage gold digger took advantage of a creepy old pedophile. [[spoiler:And it ''really'' doesn't help when the story ends with the implication Jake will kill Amy Burke and claim her as his bride in the afterlife, with Amy being the same age as Cassandra was.]]
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* CreatorsPet: A surprising case of Administrivia/TropesAreTools. R.L. Stine has said a few times that Reva Dalby of the ''Silent Night" books is something of a personal favorite since she's great fun to write. Of course, since she's supposed to be obnoxiously mean instead of unfailingly pure, and Stine writes her accordingly (since that's the reason he likes her). It works and most fans who don't find her unlikeably mean and a complete KarmaHoudini do LoveToHate her.

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* CreatorsPet: A surprising case of Administrivia/TropesAreTools. R.L. Stine has said a few times that Reva Dalby of the ''Silent Night" books is something of a personal favorite since she's great fun to write. Of course, since she's supposed to be obnoxiously mean instead of unfailingly pure, and Stine writes her accordingly (since that's the reason he likes her). It her), it works and most fans who don't find her unlikeably mean and a complete KarmaHoudini do LoveToHate her.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Deena as the main protagonist of the entire trilogy, who's only OutOfFocus in ''1978''. Half the base finds her too obnoxious, {{Wangst}}y and less interesting than other characters like Kate, Simon or Ziggy. Others find her a relatable flawed heroine, refreshingly unconventional, and realistically dealing with things that would make anyone irritable.
** Sam is similarly divisive, with some seeing her as TheLoad, and how [[spoiler: Kate and Simon died trying to save her when they'd have lived if Sam had just sacrificed herself]]. Some also find her a bit needlessly cruel to Deena at the beginning. And on the flipside, there are those who love her for her CharacterDevelopment, and the fact that she was willing to sacrifice herself to save the others, as well as being [[spoiler: strong enough to fight off possession briefly]].
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* FandomSpecificPlot: What if the possessed killers got to meet each other in the afterlife? This normally goes hand in hand with a found family relationship with Ruby and Tommy in particular being very close, sometimes Ryan as well, Pastor Miller being the TeamDad, and occasionally Billy being the BabyOfTheBunch.

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* FandomSpecificPlot: What if the possessed killers got to meet each other in the afterlife? This normally goes hand in hand with a found family relationship with Ruby and Tommy in particular being very close, sometimes Ryan as well, Pastor Miller being the TeamDad, and occasionally Billy being the BabyOfTheBunch.TheBabyOfTheBunch.
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* InNameOnly: To the original novels, with the only holdovers being the name of the town - Shadyside - and the Fear (or Fier) and Goode families.
** 'Fear Street Saga: The Betrayal' does include witches and a character being burned at the stake, however unlike in 'Part 3: 1666' it's Susannah Goode who is burned, after being accused by Edward Fier of being a witch, with the Fier family then being cursed by Susannah's father. (Sarah Fear being an invention for the 'Fear Street' films)
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* RelationshipWritingFumble: Since Cindy's boyfriend quickly becomes the killer, and Alice's is [[spoiler: the first victim]], they spend the majority of screen time with each other. More emphasis is placed on the rebuilding of their friendship, sometimes making them come across as exes getting back together. Alice has been stated to be gay by WordOfGod, suggesting this was intentional. Cindy even seems [[spoiler: sadder about Alice's death than having to kill Tommy]].

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* RelationshipWritingFumble: Since Cindy's boyfriend quickly becomes the killer, and Alice's is [[spoiler: the first victim]], they spend the majority of screen time with each other. More emphasis is placed on the rebuilding of their friendship, sometimes making them come across as exes getting back together. Alice has been stated to be gay by WordOfGod, WordOfGod; and both actresses believe that Cindy was gay as well, suggesting this was intentional. Cindy even seems [[spoiler: sadder about Alice's death than having to kill Tommy]].
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* {{Moe}}: Phoebe Yamura from the ''Seniors'' series, given how, despite her status as the head cheerleader, she feels like TheIngenue at times and experiences little but misery despite just wanting to cheer and get along with people.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Sarah Fier did have sympathetic motives. However, the twist that [[spoiler: Sarah Fier was never a witch]] is treated as a major reveal about the character. This is despite the fact that we know [[spoiler: Sarah ''would have'' made a DealWithTheDevil to curse the town had Solomon Goode didn’t]] Although other viewers point out she only considers doing so ''after'' [[spoiler:nearly the entire town turned on her and Hannah over false accusations of witchcraft]] and said consideration is more out of a desire for her and the woman she loves to survive than anything else. It should also point out that all the circumstances are [[spoiler: the result of Solomon's own deal, and as shown elsewhere on this page it's possible that he intentionally pointed the harm toward her. So it's not like Solomon merely beat her to the punch either.]]
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** Ruby Lane is very much a CuteMonsterGirl whose first appearance in the trilogy is not unlike an EnthrallingSiren. Simon even admits being drawn in because she was hot.

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** Ruby Lane is very much a CuteMonsterGirl whose first appearance in the trilogy is not unlike an EnthrallingSiren.a siren. Simon even admits being drawn in because she was hot.
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** The fact that Sheriff Goode is responsible for framing Martin for graffitiing the Shadyside Mall back in Part 1 is treated as a major reveal that gives Martin pause and makes him reevaluate Goode's character. However, when told the spray paint cans had been planted, Goode gave an incredibly weak SarcasticConfession outright admitting that he did so, which was juxtaposed with his PoliceAreUseless dismissal of Deena and Sam's story. Not to mention, [[ChekhovsGun why include this detail at all if it wasn't going to come up again?]] Sure, they needed to get Martin and Josh in contact so he could help them set up the finale, but then why draw attention to the supposed frame-up? Not to mention, "planting cans to frame an innocent man of tagging his place of work" is ''several levels below'' "participating in a centuries-long curse directly responsible for several mass murders and generally dicking with the quality of life in your rival town" on the scale of evil deeds and we already know Goode is complicit in the latter.
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* FriendlyFandoms: Fans of ''Fear Street'' and ''Stranger Things'' are pretty much guaranteed to overlap, mostly due to the nostalgic essence of both properties along with the fact that cast members like Sadie Sink and Creator/MayaHawke have worked on both. Both also have messages about growing up and moving on.[[note]]In ''Fear Street'', it's Sam and Deena's faltering relationship, while in ''Stranger Things'', primarily during the third season, it's Will's struggle with realizing the main party is growing up.[[/note]]

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* FriendlyFandoms: Fans of ''Fear Street'' and ''Stranger Things'' are pretty much guaranteed to overlap, mostly due to the nostalgic essence of both properties along with the fact that properties, shared cast members like Sadie Sink and Creator/MayaHawke have worked on both.Creator/MayaHawke, and ''Fear Street'' being directed (and essentially run) by Leigh Janiak, Ross Duffer's wife. Both also have messages about growing up and moving on.[[note]]In ''Fear Street'', it's Sam and Deena's faltering relationship, while in ''Stranger Things'', primarily during the third season, it's Will's struggle with realizing the main party is growing up.[[/note]]
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** The fact that Sheriff Goode is responsible for framing Martin for graffitiing the Shadyside Mall back in Part 1 is treated as a major reveal that gives Martin pause and makes him reevaluate Goode's character. However, when told the spray paint cans had been planted, Goode gave an incredibly weak SarcasticConfession outright admitting that he did so, which was juxtaposed with his PoliceAreUseless dismissal of Deena and Sam's story. Not to mention, [[ChekhovsGun why include this detail at all if it wasn't going to come up again?]] Sure, they needed to get Martin and Josh in contact so he could help them set up the finale, but then why draw attention to the supposed frame-up? Not to mention, "planting cans to frame an innocent man of tagging his place of work" is ''several levels below'' "participating in a centuries-long curse directly responsible for several mass murders and generally dicking with the quality of life in your rival town" on the scale of evil deeds and we already know Goode is complicit in the latter.
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** For anyone familiar with the Salem Witch Trials, they might recognize Sarah Fier and Solomon Goode’s names as the combined name for Sarah Good, one of the first three women accused of witchcraft. Had Sarah married Solomon, she would've become a HistoricalDomainCharacter. It would be even easier for Solomone to [[spoiler:frame her for his DealWithTheDevil, along with giving him a more powerful motive.]]

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** For anyone familiar with the Salem Witch Trials, they might recognize Sarah Fier and note that Solomon Goode’s names as Goode has almost the combined same last name for as Sarah Good, one of the first three women accused of witchcraft. Had Sarah married Solomon, she would've become a sort of a HistoricalDomainCharacter. It would be even easier for Solomone to [[spoiler:frame her for his DealWithTheDevil, along with giving him a more powerful motive.]]
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Leigh Janiak was quick to say she envisioned more films and a potential TV series, alleviating some fan worries that the mythology around the other killers wasn't fully explored.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Leigh Janiak was quick to say she envisioned more films and a potential TV series, alleviating some fan worries that the mythology around the other killers wasn't fully explored. A hypothetical TV series would also present an opportunity to adapt characters and stories from the books, addressing concerns over the film trilogy being an InNameOnly adaptation.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The Skull Mask killings in 1994 seem to have less victims than the other ones - with only five, including the killer. And the police arrive extremely quickly, with Nick Goode stopping Ryan while he's in the middle of stabbing Heather. In 1978, when finding the bodies of the four murdered children, Nick is so horrified he throws up outside. [[spoiler: While this is a case of EvenEvilHasStandards on the surface, perhaps on some level, Nick felt guilty about the 1978 massacre; he's shown to be unsure of his future and does go out of his way to rescue as many people as possible and even bring Ziggy BackFromTheDead. So did he rig his second possession to have as little casualties as possible? He decidedly picked closing time at the mall, where there would be less potential victims around, and arrived in timely fashion to kill Ryan personally. Was he in some way testing the water to see if he could still maintain the curse with less victims, essentially trying to have his cake and eat it too?]]



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Nearly all the killers not featured in main roles get this, but none more so than Billy Barker, mainly because of his genuinely creepy design despite being a small child and the fact the flashbacks focusing on him were pretty brutal. Many wished that he had a larger role in either ''1978'' or ''1666''.

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Nearly all the killers not featured in main roles get this, but none more so than Billy Barker, mainly because of his genuinely creepy design despite being a small child and the fact the flashbacks focusing on him were pretty brutal. Many wished that he had a larger role in either ''1978'' or ''1666''.''1666''.
** Mary Lane just has cameos in ''1994'' and ''1666'', and just two scenes in ''1978''. But her subplot of being the mother of one of the Shadyside killers, and being the HeroOfAnotherStory in finding all the information the protagonists need gives her a real sense of importance. Despite her short screen time, it's clear she made an impact.



* FansPreferTheNewHer: Cindy has to spend the second act underground, crawling through mud and people's feces, as well as [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking ruining her new clothes]]. Despite emphasis on how gross she feels (and Ziggy bluntly saying she stinks), being covered in grime with MessyHair and ripped clothes makes her [[UnkemptBeauty wildly more attractive]].



* RelationshipWritingFumble: Since Cindy's boyfriend quickly becomes the killer, and Alice's is [[spoiler: the first victim]], they spend the majority of screen time with each other. More emphasis is placed on the rebuilding of their friendship, sometimes making them come across as exes getting back together. Alice has been stated to be gay by WordOfGod, suggesting this was intentional.

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* RelationshipWritingFumble: Since Cindy's boyfriend quickly becomes the killer, and Alice's is [[spoiler: the first victim]], they spend the majority of screen time with each other. More emphasis is placed on the rebuilding of their friendship, sometimes making them come across as exes getting back together. Alice has been stated to be gay by WordOfGod, suggesting this was intentional. Cindy even seems [[spoiler: sadder about Alice's death than having to kill Tommy]].


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* TheyCopiedItNowItSucks: While Ziggy was well-received as a protagonist, there were a few complaints that Sadie Sink just recycled her [[TypeCasting character]] from ''Series/StrangerThings'' in a different decade.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The books were written in the late 80s/early 90s, as such, some of the plots wouldn't really work today. There are several books where the characters are unsure if someone is some kind of ghost or still alive, and often spend hours at the library looking through newspaper archives to try to find an obituary. Nowadays they could most likely just Google the person. The reprint for ''The New Girl'' actually updates the latter so that they indeed use the internet.
** Lampshaded by Stine in a few interviews, as he states that the hardest part of writing the revival books is finding a way around cell phones, as they would resolve a good chunk of the plots.
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** For anyone familiar with the Salem Witch Trials, they might recognize Sarah Fier and Solomon Goode’s names as the combined name for Sarah Good, one of the first three women accused of witchcraft. Had Sarah married Solomon, she would've become a HistoricalDomainCharacter, except younger and not homeless. It would be even easier for Solomone to [[spoiler:frame her for his DealWithTheDevil, along with giving him a more powerful motive.]]

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** For anyone familiar with the Salem Witch Trials, they might recognize Sarah Fier and Solomon Goode’s names as the combined name for Sarah Good, one of the first three women accused of witchcraft. Had Sarah married Solomon, she would've become a HistoricalDomainCharacter, except younger and not homeless.HistoricalDomainCharacter. It would be even easier for Solomone to [[spoiler:frame her for his DealWithTheDevil, along with giving him a more powerful motive.]]



** It’s to invoke irony, but hearing Deena say [[spoiler:”Goode is evil!”]] can cause a few snickers. Not to mention that it's repeated several times and even spray-painted on the mall's walls; making it a rather bizarre attempt at some ArcWords.

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** It’s obviously to invoke irony, but hearing Deena say [[spoiler:”Goode is evil!”]] can cause a few snickers. Not to mention that it's repeated several times and even spray-painted on the mall's walls; making it a rather bizarre attempt at some ArcWords.

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** A lot of fans view Alice as AmbiguouslyGay, and this has been supported by Leigh Janiak and Ryan Simpkin. Since she is introduced having sex with Artie and genuinely seems to like him, this begs the question of whether he's TheBeard, Alice likes him as a friend but doesn't love him (and simply doesn't realise her sexuality) or she's actually bisexual. She refers to him as the only ''person'' she's ever loved, implying she has no love for her family, so she could even have just latched onto him without realising her feelings weren't romantic.
** Ziggy's disdain of Cindy's efforts to improve her life seem to be just simple cynicism - believing no one gets out of Shadyside. But Cindy's later speech about how she tried to ignore her old friends and Alice has a moment where she says she "couldn't" ignore Ziggy. So maybe Ziggy was resentful because she thought Cindy might actually make it, and she'd given the impression she'd be leaving her sister behind.
** Tommy hears voices for a whole day and doesn't actually become possessed until hours later - in contrast to Ryan Torres from ''1994'', who heard voices and seemed to become a killer within a few minutes. Is this because [[spoiler: Tommy is Nick's first victim, and he'd gotten more effective at making sure the possession happened more quickly by 1994]]? Or is it more practical - since [[spoiler: Tommy going on his rampage at night during Colour War might be easier to cover his tracks]]?
* CaptainObviousReveal: [[spoiler:C. Berman is actually Ziggy, and not Cindy.]] Ziggy fits much more easily into the CoolLoser protagonist archetype, she's the main focus of the trailers and the poster, she's played by the bigger star, there's a closer resemblance between the two actresses, and perhaps most obviously, [[spoiler:why refer to her solely as "C" in the 1994 segments if she is Cindy? Bafflingly, Josh is shown reacting to the reveal at the same time the audience learns about it, which would imply that Christine was telling the story in ''[[ThirdPersonPerson third person]]''.]]
* CommonKnowledge: C Berman was telling the entire story in the third person to prop up the twist that [[spoiler: she's really Ziggy and not Cindy]]? In the film itself, it's clear the flashback we see is not literally the story she is telling. There are events shown that one sister isn't there for and would not feasibly know the specifics of. Even if some of the information were found out later from newspaper reports, there are intimate details that there are no survivors of. So the audience is being shown what actually happened, but Deena and Josh are only being told the story as C Berman remembers it.
* GrowingTheBeard: Critics tended to call ''1978'' the strongest film in the whole trilogy. It helps that the film gleefully uses typical SlasherMovie tropes while still being interesting, subversive in some aspects, and having a plethora of likable characters. It also has the best [[RewatchBonus rewatch value]] once [[spoiler:it's revealed that the Goode's are the main villains of the trilogy.]] It's probably helped by the fact that it was the last film of the series to be shot - meaning the cast and crew had all settled into their roles.

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** A lot of fans view Alice as AmbiguouslyGay, and this has been supported by Leigh Janiak and Ryan Simpkin.Simpkins. Since she is introduced having sex with Artie and genuinely seems to like him, this begs the question of whether he's TheBeard, Alice likes him as a friend but doesn't love him (and simply doesn't realise her sexuality) or she's actually bisexual. She refers to him as the only ''person'' she's ever loved, implying she has no love for her family, so she could even have just latched onto him without realising her feelings weren't romantic.
romantic. It helps that Simpkins is non-binary in real life.
** Ziggy's disdain of Cindy's efforts to improve her life seem to be just simple cynicism - cynicism, believing no one gets out of Shadyside. But Cindy's later speech about how she tried to ignore her old friends and Alice has a moment where she says she "couldn't" ignore Ziggy. So maybe Ziggy was resentful because she thought Cindy might actually make it, and she'd given the impression she'd be leaving her sister behind.
** Tommy hears voices for a whole day and doesn't actually become possessed until hours later - later, in contrast to Ryan Torres from ''1994'', who heard voices and seemed to become a killer within a few minutes. Is this because [[spoiler: Tommy is Nick's first victim, and he'd gotten more effective at making sure the possession happened more quickly by 1994]]? Or is it more practical - practical, since [[spoiler: Tommy going on his rampage at night during Colour Color War might be easier to cover his tracks]]?
* CaptainObviousReveal: [[spoiler:C. Berman is actually Ziggy, and not Cindy.]] Ziggy fits much more easily into the CoolLoser protagonist archetype, she's the main focus of the trailers and the poster, she's played by the bigger star, there's a closer resemblance between the two actresses, and perhaps most obviously, [[spoiler:why refer to her solely as "C" in the 1994 segments if she is Cindy? Bafflingly, Josh is shown reacting to the reveal at the same time the audience learns about it, which would imply that Christine was telling the story in ''[[ThirdPersonPerson third person]]''.]]
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* CommonKnowledge: C Berman was telling the entire story in the third person to prop up the twist that [[spoiler: she's really Ziggy and not Cindy]]? In the film itself, it's clear the flashback we see is not literally the story she is telling. There are events shown that one sister isn't there for and would not feasibly know the specifics of. Even if some of the information were found out later from newspaper reports, there are intimate details that there are no survivors of. So the audience is being shown what actually happened, but Deena and Josh are only being told the story as C C. Berman remembers it.
* GrowingTheBeard: Critics tended to call ''1978'' the strongest film in the whole trilogy. It helps that the film gleefully uses typical SlasherMovie tropes while still being interesting, subversive in some aspects, and having a plethora of likable characters. It also has the best [[RewatchBonus rewatch value]] once [[spoiler:it's it's revealed in ''1666'' that the Goode's [[spoiler:the Goodes are the main villains of the trilogy.]] trilogy]]. It's probably helped by the fact that it was the last film of the series to be shot - shot, meaning the cast and crew had all settled into their roles.



** Likewise, with Sadie Sink being the bigger name and playing the more colorful protagonist in terms of personality, she attracted the majority of praise. But as time has gone on, people have also come to see the work of the unknown Emily Rudd in a good light too; acknowledging that the role of Cindy was likely the harder of the two to play (see VanillaProtagonist below) and that the film would not be what it is without her as Cindy too.

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** Likewise, with Sadie Sink being the bigger name and playing the more colorful protagonist in terms of personality, she attracted the majority of praise. But as time has gone on, people have also come to see the work of the unknown Emily Rudd in a good light too; too, acknowledging that the role of Cindy was likely the harder of the two to play (see VanillaProtagonist below) and that the film would not be what it is without her as Cindy too.



* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Alice]] seems to be set up as stereotypical stoner slasher fodder. However, she quickly grows past that point, displaying numerous HiddenDepths and a great demeanor when dealing with [[spoiler: [[AxeCrazy Tommy]]. However, she's sadly killed with an axe strike to the chest before she can join Cindy and Ziggy in trying to put an end to the Shadyside curse.]]

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* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Alice]] seems to be set up as stereotypical stoner slasher fodder. However, she quickly grows past that point, displaying numerous HiddenDepths and a great demeanor when dealing with [[spoiler: [[AxeCrazy [[AxCrazy Tommy]]. However, she's sadly killed with an axe strike to the chest before she can join Cindy and Ziggy in trying to put an end to the Shadyside curse.]]



** Good lord, Nurse Lane! The poor woman saw her daughter - who she loved and knew was a NiceGirl - become a murderer and be branded as a psychopath by the town. She's spent years trying to prove that Ruby was innocent, and then she ends up taken away and branded as crazy herself. [[spoiler: While she appears to be healthy and free in 1994, who knows what she had to deal with in the years that preceded]].
** Poor Cindy as well. She has to deal with all the above-mentioned baggage that Ziggy does and, on top of that, a sister who is utterly horrible to her and dismissive of her attempts to improve her life. She also gets no respect from her former friends, who mock her for being a goodie-two-shoes. Then Tommy - who she was in love with - gets possessed and she even says she couldn't bring herself to kill him. And juxtaposed with the scenes of C. Berman in the future, we're led to believe the massacre [[BreakTheCutie broke her]] completely. [[spoiler: Even worse with TheReveal that it's Ziggy who survived, meaning Cindy's TookALevelInBadass still led to her dying young]].

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** Good lord, Nurse Lane! The poor woman saw her daughter - who she loved and knew was daughter, a NiceGirl - who she loved, become a murderer and be branded as a psychopath by the town. She's spent years trying to prove that Ruby was innocent, and then she ends up taken away and branded as crazy herself. [[spoiler: While she appears to be healthy and free in 1994, who knows what she had to deal with in the years that preceded]].
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** Poor Cindy as well. She has to deal with all the above-mentioned baggage that Ziggy does and, on top of that, a sister who is utterly horrible to her and dismissive of her attempts to improve her life. She also gets no respect from her former friends, who mock her for being a goodie-two-shoes. Then Tommy - Tommy, who she was in love with - with, gets possessed and she even says she couldn't bring herself to kill him. And juxtaposed with the scenes of C. Berman in the future, we're led to believe the massacre [[BreakTheCutie broke her]] completely. [[spoiler: Even worse with TheReveal that it's Ziggy who survived, meaning Cindy's TookALevelInBadass still led to her dying young]].



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* AbandonShipping: [[spoiler:Ziggy/Nick]] was a popular pairing, until it's revealed that [[spoiler:the Goodes have been running the curse of Shadyside]] and [[spoiler:Nick's not only been the responsible for cursing Tommy, and for the Camp Nigthwing Massacre, but for the massacres in 1994]], and after that most, if not all fans jumped the ship.

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* AbandonShipping: [[spoiler:Ziggy/Nick]] was a popular pairing, until it's revealed that [[spoiler:the Goodes have been running the curse of Shadyside]] Shadyside and [[spoiler:Nick's Nick's not only been the responsible for cursing Tommy, and for the Camp Nigthwing Massacre, but for the massacres in 1994]], and after that most, 1994]]. Most, if not all all, fans jumped the ship.ship after that.

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** A lot of fans view Alice as AmbiguouslyGay, and this has been supported by Leigh Janiak and Ryan Simpkin. Since she is introduced having sex with Artie and genuinely seems to like him, this begs the question of whether he's TheBeard, Alice likes him as a friend but doesn't love him (and simply doesn't realise her sexuality) or she's actually bisexual.

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** A lot of fans view Alice as AmbiguouslyGay, and this has been supported by Leigh Janiak and Ryan Simpkin. Since she is introduced having sex with Artie and genuinely seems to like him, this begs the question of whether he's TheBeard, Alice likes him as a friend but doesn't love him (and simply doesn't realise her sexuality) or she's actually bisexual. She refers to him as the only ''person'' she's ever loved, implying she has no love for her family, so she could even have just latched onto him without realising her feelings weren't romantic.



* GrowingTheBeard: Critics tended to call ''1978'' the strongest film in the whole trilogy. It helps that the film gleefully uses typical SlasherMovie tropes while still being interesting, subversive in some aspects, and having a plethora of likable characters. It also has the best [[RewatchBonus rewatch value]] once [[spoiler:it's revealed that the Goode's are the main villains of the trilogy.]]

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* CommonKnowledge: C Berman was telling the entire story in the third person to prop up the twist that [[spoiler: she's really Ziggy and not Cindy]]? In the film itself, it's clear the flashback we see is not literally the story she is telling. There are events shown that one sister isn't there for and would not feasibly know the specifics of. Even if some of the information were found out later from newspaper reports, there are intimate details that there are no survivors of. So the audience is being shown what actually happened, but Deena and Josh are only being told the story as C Berman remembers it.
* GrowingTheBeard: Critics tended to call ''1978'' the strongest film in the whole trilogy. It helps that the film gleefully uses typical SlasherMovie tropes while still being interesting, subversive in some aspects, and having a plethora of likable characters. It also has the best [[RewatchBonus rewatch value]] once [[spoiler:it's revealed that the Goode's are the main villains of the trilogy.]]]] It's probably helped by the fact that it was the last film of the series to be shot - meaning the cast and crew had all settled into their roles.


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** And when Ziggy and Cindy dig up the hanging tree site to find [[spoiler: that Sarah's body has been moved]], we later find out in ''1666'' that [[spoiler: it was her friends who moved it as a sign of respect]]. But in that event, Abigail was involved, so [[spoiler: she ended up dooming her future counterpart to a horrific death]].


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** Although Sadie Sink was never considered a bad actor in ''Series/StrangerThings'', her character was often OutOfFocus and tended to get lost in the ensemble. Here as a major protagonist, she gets to show off just how good she is; James A Janisse of ''WebVideo/DeadMeat'' expressed surprise at just how well she played the "me against the world" archetype. She also had the hard task of having to lead the second film as essentially a new character, after the surviving characters from the first disappear for the flashbacks - which she pulled off quite well if the rave reviews about her performance are anything to go by.
** Likewise, with Sadie Sink being the bigger name and playing the more colorful protagonist in terms of personality, she attracted the majority of praise. But as time has gone on, people have also come to see the work of the unknown Emily Rudd in a good light too; acknowledging that the role of Cindy was likely the harder of the two to play (see VanillaProtagonist below) and that the film would not be what it is without her as Cindy too.
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** For anyone familiar with the Salem Witch Trials, they might recognize Sarah Fier and Solomon Goode’s names as the combined name for Sarah Good, one of the first three women accused of witchcraft. Had Sarah married Solomon, she would've become a HistorticalDomainCharacter, except younger and not homeless. It would be even easier for Solomone to [[spoiler:frame her for his DealWithTheDevil, along with giving him a more powerful motive.]]

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** For anyone familiar with the Salem Witch Trials, they might recognize Sarah Fier and Solomon Goode’s names as the combined name for Sarah Good, one of the first three women accused of witchcraft. Had Sarah married Solomon, she would've become a HistorticalDomainCharacter, HistoricalDomainCharacter, except younger and not homeless. It would be even easier for Solomone to [[spoiler:frame her for his DealWithTheDevil, along with giving him a more powerful motive.]]
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** For anyone familiar with the Salem Witch Trials, they might recognize Sarah Fier and Solomon Goode’s names as the combined name for Sarah Good, one of the first three women accused of witchcraft. Had Sarah not married Solomon, she might’ve forced to [[spoiler: to join his DealWithTheDevil.]] Which makes this count as {{Foreshadowing}} to [[spoiler: her innocence.]]

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** For anyone familiar with the Salem Witch Trials, they might recognize Sarah Fier and Solomon Goode’s names as the combined name for Sarah Good, one of the first three women accused of witchcraft. Had Sarah not married Solomon, she might’ve forced would've become a HistorticalDomainCharacter, except younger and not homeless. It would be even easier for Solomone to [[spoiler: to join [[spoiler:frame her for his DealWithTheDevil.]] Which makes this count as {{Foreshadowing}} to [[spoiler: her innocence.DealWithTheDevil, along with giving him a more powerful motive.]]
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** In the flashbacks when Deena worked it all out, the Goodes are seen saying the killers names. The narm part comes in when you see Ashley Zukerman and Ted Sutherland, who played the two versions of Nick, play every Goode shown, just with a wig and fake glasses and facial hair to differentiate between Goodes.

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** In the flashbacks when Deena worked it all out, the Goodes [[spoiler:the Goodes]] are seen saying the killers names. The narm part comes in when you see Ashley [[spoiler:Ashley Zukerman and Ted Sutherland, Sutherland]], who played the two versions of Nick, [[spoiler:Nick]], play every Goode [[spoiler:Goode]] shown, just with a wig and fake glasses and facial hair to differentiate between Goodes.[[spoiler:Goodes]].
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** [[spoiler:Nick Goode]]. When [[spoiler:he]] comented on how he wanted to things differently in Part 2,[[spoiler:was he being genuine about not wanting to go on with the curse? If so, did he feel reluctant about the nature of what his family did, or did he merely feel bad about doing it himself and would be down with the curse going on, as long as he didn't have to be the one to make it?]]

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** [[spoiler:Nick Goode]]. When [[spoiler:he]] comented on how he [[spoiler:he]] wanted to things differently in Part 2,[[spoiler:was he being genuine about not wanting to go on with the curse? If so, did he feel reluctant about the nature of what his family did, or did he merely feel bad about doing it himself and would be down with the curse going on, as long as he didn't have to be the one to make it?]]
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** As pointed out on the Headscratchers page, Sarah did have opportunity to [[spoiler: speak and at least try to expose Solomon right before she was hanged - and the fact that the lair was under his house would most definitely make him look suspicious.]] She however chooses not to, instead using her last words to [[spoiler: give a false confession that exonerates Hannah. Was she so broken by the treatment that she assumed that no one would believe her? After all, she doesn't know her friends believe that she's innocent. Or more morbidly, did she not feel like trying to save the townspeople who were so quick to shun her? Perhaps her curse on Solomon was a compromise - let the cruel townspeople suffer for their crimes, but try to save future generations]].

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** As pointed out on the Headscratchers page, Sarah did have opportunity to [[spoiler: speak and at least try to expose Solomon right before she was hanged - and the fact that the lair was under his house would most definitely make him look suspicious.]] She however chooses not to, instead using her last words to [[spoiler: give a false confession that exonerates Hannah. Was she so broken by the treatment that she assumed that no one would believe her? After all, she doesn't know her friends believe that she's innocent. She might have been trying to play it safe: if her attempt to expose Solomon didn't go well no one would have believed anything else from her, and Hannah would have been hanged with her, so she chose the way that guaranteed Hannah's safety. Or more morbidly, did she not feel like trying to save the townspeople who were so quick to shun her? Perhaps her curse on Solomon was a compromise - let the cruel townspeople suffer for their crimes, but try to save future generations]].



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Sarah Fier did have sympathetic motives. However, the twist that [[spoiler: Sarah Fier was never a witch]] is treated as a major reveal about the character. This is despite the fact that we know [[spoiler: Sarah ''would have'' made a DealWithTheDevil to curse the town had Solomon Goode didn’t]] Although other viewers point out she only considers doing so ''after'' [[spoiler:nearly the entire town turned on her and Hannah over false accusations of witchcraft]] and said consideration is more out of a desire for her and the woman she loves to survive than anything else.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Sarah Fier did have sympathetic motives. However, the twist that [[spoiler: Sarah Fier was never a witch]] is treated as a major reveal about the character. This is despite the fact that we know [[spoiler: Sarah ''would have'' made a DealWithTheDevil to curse the town had Solomon Goode didn’t]] Although other viewers point out she only considers doing so ''after'' [[spoiler:nearly the entire town turned on her and Hannah over false accusations of witchcraft]] and said consideration is more out of a desire for her and the woman she loves to survive than anything else. It should also point out that all the circumstances are [[spoiler: the result of Solomon's own deal, and as shown elsewhere on this page it's possible that he intentionally pointed the harm toward her. So it's not like Solomon merely beat her to the punch either.]]
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* InNameOnly: To the original novels, with the only holdovers being the name of the town - Shadyside - and the Fear (or Fier) and Goode families.
** 'Fear Street Saga: The Betrayal' does include witches and a character being burned at the stake, however unlike in 'Part 3: 1666' it's Susannah Goode who is burned, after being accused by Edward Fier of being a witch, with the Fier family then being cursed by Susannah's father. (Sarah Fear being an invention for the 'Fear Street' films)
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* ValuesDissonance: ''Door of Death'' takes place in the 1850s and features Jake Fear's FreudianExcuse being that he was manipulated and exploited by his young wife Cassandra Ryan. The problem is, Cassandra was confirmed to be 17 and Jake was in his sixties when they got married. That the story's trying to make us sympathize with a man who married a girl old enough to be his granddaughter (even if the age gap between them wasn't considered much of an issue in the 1850s) can make it hard to feel sorry for Jake, regardless if Cassandra remorselessly screwed him over. It just makes it seem like a shameless teenage gold digger took advantage of a creepy old pedophile. [[spoiler:And it ''really'' doesn't help when the story ends with the implication Jake will kill Amy Burke and claim her as his bride in the afterlife, with Amy being the same age as Cassandra was.]]

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* GeniusBonus: For anyone familiar with the Salem Witch Trials, they might recognize Sarah Fier and Solomon Goode’s names as the combined name for Sarah Good, one of the first three women accused of witchcraft. Had Sarah not married Solomon, she might’ve forced to [[spoiler: to join his DealWithTheDevil.]] Which makes this count as {{Foreshadowing}} to [[spoiler: her innocence.]]

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** When Sarah is buried after being hanged, her legs are crossed in a position that evokes the illustration of "The Hanged Man" card in a Tarot deck. The card represents self-sacrifice, [[spoiler: which is extremely apt, since Sarah sacrifices herself to spare Hannah]].

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