History YMMV / FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya

13th Dec '17 1:37:40 PM Ogiga99
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** [[spoiler: Even more so now that Angelica is revealed to be somewhat similar to Miyuverse!Shirou. Some are even finding similarity between them and F/Z Kiritsugu and Irisviel.]]

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** [[spoiler: Even more so now that Angelica is revealed to be somewhat similar to Miyuverse!Shirou.the Shirou from Miyu's world. Some are even finding similarity between them and F/Z Kiritsugu and Irisviel.]]



** Shirou is already a major BaseBreakingCharacter as a whole in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' for BrokenBase reasons, but a lot of fans consider this version of him to be even worse than his DEEN and Ufotable versions, mainly because he's bland and completely superfluous, and don't find the RunningGag of [[ChickMagnet women falling for him]] to be that funny. In addition, there's DieForOurShip at play, as most of the {{Yuri Fan}}s in the fanbase will raise their hackles at any ShipTease he gets with girls, as he's a possible canon threat to ''either side'' of ''both'' [[FanPreferredCouple Fan-Preferred Couples]] Illya/Miyu and Rin/Luvia. [[spoiler:Miyuverse!Shirou, however, is a MemeticBadass]].

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** Shirou is already a major BaseBreakingCharacter as a whole in ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' for BrokenBase reasons, but a lot of fans consider this version of him to be even worse than his DEEN and Ufotable versions, mainly because he's bland and completely superfluous, and don't find the RunningGag of [[ChickMagnet women falling for him]] to be that funny. In addition, there's DieForOurShip at play, as most of the {{Yuri Fan}}s in the fanbase will raise their hackles at any ShipTease he gets with girls, as he's a possible canon threat to ''either side'' of ''both'' [[FanPreferredCouple Fan-Preferred Couples]] Illya/Miyu and Rin/Luvia. [[spoiler:Miyuverse!Shirou, [[spoiler:The Shirou from Miyu's world, however, is a MemeticBadass]].



** [[spoiler:Miyuverse!Shirou]]. He's been shipped with [[spoiler:Miyu in much the same way Illya is with Shirou, Sakura due to their shared past, and Angelica as shown under the FoeYay]].

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** [[spoiler:Miyuverse!Shirou]].[[spoiler:The Shirou from Miyu's world]]. He's been shipped with [[spoiler:Miyu in much the same way Illya is with Shirou, Sakura due to their shared past, and Angelica as shown under the FoeYay]].
16th Nov '17 10:00:05 PM vaynard_vtripment
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** Angelica, full goddamn stop. The fans are already clamoring for her when she first appeared with her awesome Gilgamesh Install, and her following appearances gave her plenty of time to shine, what with TheReveal about this series' background and her awesome fight vs. Kuro and [[spoiler:Miyu's brother]]. After her HeelFaceTurn, she's become even more popular as the fans jokingly said that she embodied "the perfect heroine for TYPE-MOON", with her combining traits of all three of ''Stay Night'''s heroines (her blonde hair, MegaTwintails, [[BoobsOfSteel big boobs]], and older sister-like personality).

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** Angelica, full goddamn stop. The fans are already clamoring for her when she first appeared with her awesome Gilgamesh Install, and her following appearances gave her plenty of time to shine, what with TheReveal about this series' background and her awesome fight vs. Kuro and [[spoiler:Miyu's brother]]. After her HeelFaceTurn, she's become even more popular as the fans jokingly said that she embodied "the perfect heroine for TYPE-MOON", with her combining traits of all three of ''Stay Night'''s heroines (her blonde (blonde hair, MegaTwintails, [[BoobsOfSteel big boobs]], and older sister-like personality).



** [[spoiler: Even more so now that Angelica is revealed to be somewhat similar to Miyuverse!Shirou. Some are even finding similarity between them and F/Z Kiritsugu and Irisviel]].

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** [[spoiler: Even more so now that Angelica is revealed to be somewhat similar to Miyuverse!Shirou. Some are even finding similarity between them and F/Z Kiritsugu and Irisviel]].Irisviel.]]



* GrowingTheBeard: It starts out as a fairly comedic series about Illya as a MagicalGirl. It then steadily becomes more serious. The CharacterDevelopment and ArtEvolution become more apparent in its second season, and the gentle amounts of FanService and heavier action clearly show it's a {{Seinen}} series. This is especially apparent in 3rei.

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* GrowingTheBeard: It starts out as a fairly comedic series about Illya as a MagicalGirl. It then steadily becomes more serious. The CharacterDevelopment and ArtEvolution become more apparent in its second season, and the gentle amounts of FanService {{Fanservice}} and heavier action clearly show it's a {{Seinen}} series. This is especially apparent in 3rei.



** Likewise, TheReveal that Miyu's brother is [[spoiler:an [[AlternateUniverseReedRichardsIsAwesome alternate Shirou Emiya]]]] has gotten the series a lot of attention from mainline [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate]] fans, especially following the release of [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks ufotable's Unlimited Blade Works anime]]. Even fans who outright condemn this series for its {{Fanservice}} content seem to have nothing but praise for the flashback arc focusing on Miyu's brother. The movie containing Miyu's flashback arc succeeded at gaining new fans of the series, thanks to him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap They even consider this series' Shirou as the best Shirou portrayal in]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap ''any'']] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Fate series.]]
* LesYay: Miyu develops a pretty obvious crush on Illya, who ([[IDidntMeanToTurnYouOn apparently unintentionally]]) doesn't do a whole lot to discourage it. Likewise with [[ScrewYourself Illya and Chloe]].

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** Likewise, TheReveal that Miyu's brother is [[spoiler:an [[AlternateUniverseReedRichardsIsAwesome alternate Shirou Emiya]]]] has gotten the series a lot of attention from mainline [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate]] fans, especially following the release of [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks ufotable's Unlimited Blade Works anime]]. Even fans who outright condemn this series for its {{Fanservice}} content seem to have nothing but praise for the flashback arc focusing on Miyu's brother.
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The movie containing Miyu's flashback arc succeeded at gaining new fans of the series, thanks to him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap They even consider this series' Shirou as the best ''the best'' Shirou portrayal in]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap ''any'']] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Fate series.]]
* LesYay: Miyu develops a pretty obvious crush on Illya, who ([[IDidntMeanToTurnYouOn apparently unintentionally]]) doesn't do a whole lot to discourage it. Likewise with [[ScrewYourself Illya and Chloe]].Chloe]], then again, the yuri subtext mainly comes from Chloe.



** From ''3rei'', [[spoiler:Tanaka]] is widely hated for being as stupid as one could possibly get without forgetting how to breathe. It hurts that [[spoiler:for her desire to get rid of the Ainsworths, ''which is the only defining characteristic of her personality'', she does almost nothing during the FinalBattle, only giving Illya a long distance powerup]].

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** From ''3rei'', [[spoiler:Tanaka]] is widely hated for being as stupid as one could possibly get without forgetting how to breathe. It hurts that [[spoiler:for her desire to get rid of the Ainsworths, ''which is the only defining characteristic of her personality'', she does almost nothing during the FinalBattle, only giving Illya a long distance powerup]].power-up]].



** Gilgamesh: it's hard not to see his teasing of Chloe and Illya as flirting. Double points when he does it toward Chloe when he is naked.
*** This is morbidly hilarious considering his mainline relationships with their respective characters. Remember UBW?
** Shirou: it be easier to list people who aren't teased with Shirou though the most subtle probably goes to Sella, with even her own sister and Shirou's mother basically trying to pimp her out to him. In the manga, Rin has the most ship tease. Rin has been the protagonist of many side chapters focused on her relationship with Shirou, that no one else has had. Although one such chapter introduces this world's Sakura and gives Shirou a ship tease with her.

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** Gilgamesh: it's hard not to see his teasing of Chloe and Illya as flirting. Double points when he does it toward Chloe when he is naked.
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naked. This is morbidly hilarious considering his mainline relationships with their respective characters. Remember "the doctor" scene in UBW?
** Shirou: it be easier to list people who aren't teased with Shirou though the most subtle probably goes to Sella, with even her own sister and Shirou's mother basically trying to pimp her out to him. In the manga, Rin has the most ship tease. Rin tease; she has been the protagonist focus of many side chapters focused that focusing on her relationship with Shirou, Shirou that no one else has had. Although one such chapter introduces this world's Sakura and gives Shirou a ship tease with her.



* ToughActToFollow: Not the anime itself, but Creator/SentaiFilmworks's [[TheOtherDarrin dub cast]]. As just about all veterans have a different dub voice, the new ones' success or failure is greatly influenced by how they compare to the original. And considering that [[Creator/CynthiaMartinez Illya]] sounds more like [[Anime/{{Slayers}} Lina Inverse]] than a 10 years old little girl, it's safe to say that it's not going well.

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* ToughActToFollow: Not the anime itself, but Creator/SentaiFilmworks's [[TheOtherDarrin dub cast]]. As just about all veterans have a different dub voice, the new ones' success or failure is greatly influenced by how they compare to the original. And considering that [[Creator/CynthiaMartinez Illya]] sounds more like [[Anime/{{Slayers}} Lina Inverse]] than a 10 years old little girl, it's safe to say that it's not going well.well.
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13th Nov '17 11:40:55 AM gearfist0
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** Likewise, TheReveal that Miyu's brother is [[spoiler:an [[AlternateUniverseReedRichardsIsAwesome alternate Shirou Emiya]]]] has gotten the series a lot of attention from mainline [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate]] fans, especially following the release of [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks ufotable's Unlimited Blade Works anime]]. Even fans who outright condemn this series for its {{Fanservice}} content seem to have nothing but praise for the flashback arc focusing on Miyu's brother. The movie containing Miyu's flashback arc succeeded at gaining new fans of the series, thanks to him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap They even consider this series' Shirou as the best Shirou portrayal in]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap''any'']] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Fate series.]]

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** Likewise, TheReveal that Miyu's brother is [[spoiler:an [[AlternateUniverseReedRichardsIsAwesome alternate Shirou Emiya]]]] has gotten the series a lot of attention from mainline [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate]] fans, especially following the release of [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks ufotable's Unlimited Blade Works anime]]. Even fans who outright condemn this series for its {{Fanservice}} content seem to have nothing but praise for the flashback arc focusing on Miyu's brother. The movie containing Miyu's flashback arc succeeded at gaining new fans of the series, thanks to him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap They even consider this series' Shirou as the best Shirou portrayal in]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap''any'']] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap ''any'']] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Fate series.]]
12th Nov '17 4:57:11 AM Arawn999
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: If anime pages on Social Media, Forums, etc. are any indicator, then this series is best known for, among other things, the scene where Illya mounts Miyu with a psychotic smirk on her face (twice), Kuro kissing Miyu during her's and Illya's and Miyu's first fight, and the {{stripperific}} "[[CatGirl Beast Mode]]" outfits of Illya, Kuro, and Miyu.

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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: If anime pages on Social Media, social media, Forums, etc. are any indicator, then this series is best known for, among other things, the scene where Illya mounts Miyu with a psychotic smirk on her face (twice), Kuro kissing Miyu during her's and Illya's and Miyu's first fight, Kuro's passionate make-out sessions of questionable consent with Illya, and the {{stripperific}} "[[CatGirl Beast Mode]]" outfits of Illya, Kuro, and Miyu.
12th Nov '17 2:56:13 AM Rmpdc
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: If anime pages on Social Media, Forums, etc. are any indicator, then this series is best known for, among other things, the scene where Illya mounts Miyu with a psychotic smirk on her face (twice), Kuro kissing Miyu during her's and Illya's and Miyu's first fight, and the {{stripperific}} "[[CatGirl Beast Mode]]" outfits of Illya, Kuro, and Miyu.
7th Nov '17 11:03:40 AM lalaTKG
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** Likewise, TheReveal that Miyu's brother is [[spoiler:an [[AlternateUniverseReedRichardsIsAwesome alternate Shirou Emiya]]]] has gotten the series a lot of attention from mainline [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate]] fans, especially following the release of [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks ufotable's Unlimited Blade Works anime]]. Even fans who outright condemn this series for its {{Fanservice}} content seem to have nothing but praise for the flashback arc focusing on Miyu's brother. The movie containing Miyu's flashback arc succeeded at gaining new fans of the series, thanks to him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap They even consider this series' Shirou as the best Shirou portrayal in]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap''any'']] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Fate anime.]]

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** Likewise, TheReveal that Miyu's brother is [[spoiler:an [[AlternateUniverseReedRichardsIsAwesome alternate Shirou Emiya]]]] has gotten the series a lot of attention from mainline [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate]] fans, especially following the release of [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks ufotable's Unlimited Blade Works anime]]. Even fans who outright condemn this series for its {{Fanservice}} content seem to have nothing but praise for the flashback arc focusing on Miyu's brother. The movie containing Miyu's flashback arc succeeded at gaining new fans of the series, thanks to him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap They even consider this series' Shirou as the best Shirou portrayal in]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap''any'']] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Fate anime.series.]]
7th Nov '17 11:03:04 AM lalaTKG
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** Likewise, TheReveal that Miyu's brother is [[spoiler:an [[AlternateUniverseReedRichardsIsAwesome alternate Shirou Emiya]]]] has gotten the series a lot of attention from mainline [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate]] fans, especially following the release of [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks ufotable's Unlimited Blade Works anime]]. Even fans who outright condemn this series for its {{Fanservice}} content seem to have nothing but praise for the flashback arc focusing on Miyu's brother. The movie containing Miyu's flashback arc succeeded at gaining new fans of the series, thanks to him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap They even consider this series' Shirou as the best Shirou portrayal in ''any'' Fate anime.]]

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** Likewise, TheReveal that Miyu's brother is [[spoiler:an [[AlternateUniverseReedRichardsIsAwesome alternate Shirou Emiya]]]] has gotten the series a lot of attention from mainline [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate]] fans, especially following the release of [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks ufotable's Unlimited Blade Works anime]]. Even fans who outright condemn this series for its {{Fanservice}} content seem to have nothing but praise for the flashback arc focusing on Miyu's brother. The movie containing Miyu's flashback arc succeeded at gaining new fans of the series, thanks to him. [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap They even consider this series' Shirou as the best Shirou portrayal in ''any'' in]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap''any'']] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Fate anime.]]
7th Nov '17 11:01:12 AM lalaTKG
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** As of this writing, [[OutOfFocus Illya & friends have not appeared on-panel for ten chapters]]. Given that Illya is the title character and [[spoiler:Alternate!Shirou]] wasn't properly introduced until just a few chapters before, some people have taken issue with this. Long-time fans have thrown out accusations that [[spoiler:Shirou]] has [[SpotlightStealingSquad hijacked the series]] and the author is [[WolverinePublicity deliberately pandering]] to [[JustHereForGodzilla new fans drawn in by his appearance]].

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** As of For a while (and reminder, this writing, is a monthly), [[OutOfFocus Illya & friends have not appeared didn't appear on-panel for at least ten chapters]]. Given that Illya is the title character and [[spoiler:Alternate!Shirou]] wasn't properly introduced until just a few chapters before, some people have taken issue with this. Long-time fans have thrown out accusations that [[spoiler:Shirou]] has [[SpotlightStealingSquad hijacked the series]] and the author is [[WolverinePublicity deliberately pandering]] to [[JustHereForGodzilla new fans drawn in by his appearance]].



** Angelica, full goddamn stop. The fans are already clamoring for her when she first appear with awesome Gilgamesh Install, afterwards her appearances are always awesome, what with TheReveal about this series' background then her awesome fight vs. Kuro and [[spoiler:Miyu's brother]]. After her HeelFaceTurn, she's become even more popular as the fans jokingly said that she embodied "the perfect female character of TYPE-MOON", with the ultimate combination of blonde hair, twin tails, [[BoobsOfSteel big boobs]], and older sister-like personality.

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** Angelica, full goddamn stop. The fans are already clamoring for her when she first appear appeared with her awesome Gilgamesh Install, afterwards and her following appearances are always awesome, gave her plenty of time to shine, what with TheReveal about this series' background then and her awesome fight vs. Kuro and [[spoiler:Miyu's brother]]. After her HeelFaceTurn, she's become even more popular as the fans jokingly said that she embodied "the perfect female character of heroine for TYPE-MOON", with the ultimate combination her combining traits of all three of ''Stay Night'''s heroines (her blonde hair, twin tails, MegaTwintails, [[BoobsOfSteel big boobs]], and older sister-like personality.personality).



** [[spoiler: Even more so now that Angelica is revealed to be somewhat similar to Miyuverse!Shirou. Some are even finding similarity between them and F/Z Kiritsugu and Irisviel]]

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** [[spoiler: Even more so now that Angelica is revealed to be somewhat similar to Miyuverse!Shirou. Some are even finding similarity between them and F/Z Kiritsugu and Irisviel]]Irisviel]].
13th Oct '17 2:05:19 AM Lunatic0verlord
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* ToughActToFollow: Not the anime itself, but Creator/SentaiFilmworks's [[TheOtherDarrin dub cast]]. As just about all veterans have a different dub voice, the new ones' success or failure is greatly influenced by how they compare to the original. And considering that [[Creator/CynthiaMartinez Illya]] sounds more like [[LightNovel/Slayers Lina Inverse]] than a 10 years old little girl, it's safe to say that it's not going well.

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* ToughActToFollow: Not the anime itself, but Creator/SentaiFilmworks's [[TheOtherDarrin dub cast]]. As just about all veterans have a different dub voice, the new ones' success or failure is greatly influenced by how they compare to the original. And considering that [[Creator/CynthiaMartinez Illya]] sounds more like [[LightNovel/Slayers [[Anime/{{Slayers}} Lina Inverse]] than a 10 years old little girl, it's safe to say that it's not going well.
13th Oct '17 2:03:08 AM Lunatic0verlord
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* ToughActToFollow: Not the anime itself, but Creator/SentaiFilmworks's [[TheOtherDarrin dub cast]]. As just about all veterans have a different dub voice, the new ones' success or failure is greatly influenced by how they compare to the original. And considering that [[Creator/CynthiaMartinez Illya]] sounds more like [[Anime/Slayers Lina Inverse]] than a 10 years old little girl, it's safe to say that it's not going well.

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* ToughActToFollow: Not the anime itself, but Creator/SentaiFilmworks's [[TheOtherDarrin dub cast]]. As just about all veterans have a different dub voice, the new ones' success or failure is greatly influenced by how they compare to the original. And considering that [[Creator/CynthiaMartinez Illya]] sounds more like [[Anime/Slayers [[LightNovel/Slayers Lina Inverse]] than a 10 years old little girl, it's safe to say that it's not going well.
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