History YMMV / FallOutBoy

22nd Feb '17 10:58:51 PM Scsigs
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** Over ''Folie a Deux'', though you'll find more people defending it these days than when it was first released. More generally, people who don't like the direction Fall Out Boy has taken since Take This To Your Grave/From Under The Cork Tree versus...everyone else.

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** Over ''Folie a Deux'', though you'll find more people defending it these days than when it was first released. More generally, people who don't like the direction Fall Out Boy has taken since Take ''Take This To Your Grave/From Grave''/''From Under The Cork Tree Tree'' versus...everyone else.
22nd Feb '17 10:57:09 PM Scsigs
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** You ever want a crash course into the fandom? The first lesson is that you usually fall into one of three camps; The kind of fan that loves only their first 2 albums, the kind that likes their first 4 and doesn't care as much for everything afterwards, or the kind that likes all of their material. If your part of that last one, which albums you prefer over the others will, obviously, vary based on personal preference, as they've tended to vary it up, sometimes quite drastically, between albums.

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** You ever want a crash course into about the fandom? The first lesson is that you usually fall into one of three camps; The kind of fan that loves only their first 2 albums, the kind that likes their first 4 and doesn't care as much for everything afterwards, or the kind that likes all of their material. If your part of that last one, which albums you prefer over the others will, obviously, vary based on personal preference, as they've tended to vary it up, sometimes quite drastically, between albums.
22nd Feb '17 10:56:27 PM Scsigs
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** [[TakeAThirdOption Or they think that he's a decent enough guy in the attitude and/or bass playing department]] and find most (if not all) of the haterade thrown at him to be unjustified.
* BrokenBase: Over Folie a Deux, though you'll find more people defending it these days than when it was first released. More generally, people who don't like the direction Fall Out Boy has taken since Take This To Your Grave/From Under The Cork Tree versus...everyone else.

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** [[TakeAThirdOption Or they think that he's a decent enough guy in the attitude and/or bass playing department]] and find most (if not all) of the haterade hatred thrown at him to be unjustified.
* BrokenBase: Good god, I ''dare'' you to find one more broken about a band.
** You ever want a crash course into the fandom? The first lesson is that you usually fall into one of three camps; The kind of fan that loves only their first 2 albums, the kind that likes their first 4 and doesn't care as much for everything afterwards, or the kind that likes all of their material. If your part of that last one, which albums you prefer over the others will, obviously, vary based on personal preference, as they've tended to vary it up, sometimes quite drastically, between albums.
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Over Folie ''Folie a Deux, Deux'', though you'll find more people defending it these days than when it was first released. More generally, people who don't like the direction Fall Out Boy has taken since Take This To Your Grave/From Under The Cork Tree versus...everyone else.
1st Jan '17 3:30:06 PM Scsigs
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** ''She wants to dance like OO-MA THURMAN, bury me til I confess…''

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** ''She wants to dance like OO-MA THURMAN, bury me til ti'l I confess…''



* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: "Novocaine" from ''AB/AP'' and "The Phoenix" from ''Save Rock and Roll'' have the exact same electronic-influenced instrumentations. Gets better with [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Pvl9zOPZ0 this]] remix of them where they blend so perfectly into each other, you'd confuse the two if you weren't already familiar with them.



* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: "Novocaine" from ''AB/AP'' and "The Phoenix" from ''Save Rock and Roll'' have the exact same electronic-influenced instrumentations. Gets better with [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Pvl9zOPZ0 this]] remix of them where they blend so perfectly into each other, you'd confuse the two if you weren't already familiar with them.
1st Jan '17 3:29:13 PM Scsigs
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: "Novocaine" from ''AB/AP'' and "The Phoenix" from ''Save Rock and Roll'' have the exact same electronic-influenced instrumentations. Gets better with [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Pvl9zOPZ0 this]] remix of them where they blend so perfectly into each other, you'd confuse the two if you weren't already familiar with them.
2nd Dec '16 9:51:28 PM tenuousbreaker
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** Over their post-hiatus poppier sound compared to their older material. Some fans are fine with the switch because it's Fall Out Boy, they weren't exactly not poppy before then, and they're known to switch things up. Some don't like the switch because they feel that less use of their main instruments and a heavier focus on outside instrumentation & samples makes it sound less original[[note]]Despite claims of originality, Fall Out Boy is one of the few rock acts known for their use of sampling. Sampling is more traditionally used in electronic music and rap, genres that Fall Out Boy are fans of and have collaborated with before.[[/note]] More examples of fandom complaints about Fall Out Boy's shifting sound over the years can be found in the TheyChangedItNowItSucks section.

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** Over their post-hiatus poppier sound compared to their older material. Some fans are fine with the switch because it's Fall Out Boy, they weren't exactly not poppy before then, and they're known to switch things up. Some don't like the switch because they feel that less use of their main instruments and a heavier focus on outside instrumentation & samples makes it sound less original[[note]]Despite claims of originality, unoriginality, Fall Out Boy is one of the few rock acts known for their use of sampling. Sampling is more traditionally used in electronic music and rap, genres that Fall Out Boy are fans of and have collaborated with before.[[/note]] [[/note]]. More examples of fandom complaints about Fall Out Boy's shifting sound over the years can be found in the TheyChangedItNowItSucks section.
2nd Dec '16 9:49:50 PM tenuousbreaker
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** Over their new overtly Pop style versus their older Pop Punk/Emo Pop style. Some fans are fine with the switch because it's Fall Out Boy. Some don't like the switch because it's of a lesser quality than their old music due to less use of their main instruments & a heavier focus on outside instrumentation & samples than originality, less clever writing, & the band seemingly selling out with their current management hounding fans on social media when a new piece of music comes out, with [[{{Understatement}} more than a few]] tweets about their last album being tweeted a day until the album was released & every piece of merch released focusing less on the music & more on other stuff. Some don't mind everything up until ''Save Rock and Roll'', but everything since isn't that good.

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** Over their new overtly Pop style versus post-hiatus poppier sound compared to their older Pop Punk/Emo Pop style. material. Some fans are fine with the switch because it's Fall Out Boy. Boy, they weren't exactly not poppy before then, and they're known to switch things up. Some don't like the switch because it's of a lesser quality than their old music due to they feel that less use of their main instruments & and a heavier focus on outside instrumentation & samples than makes it sound less original[[note]]Despite claims of originality, less clever writing, & Fall Out Boy is one of the band seemingly selling out with few rock acts known for their current management hounding fans on social media when a new piece use of sampling. Sampling is more traditionally used in electronic music comes out, and rap, genres that Fall Out Boy are fans of and have collaborated with [[{{Understatement}} more than a few]] tweets before.[[/note]] More examples of fandom complaints about their last album being tweeted a day until Fall Out Boy's shifting sound over the album was released & every piece of merch released focusing less on years can be found in the music & more on other stuff. Some don't mind everything up until ''Save Rock and Roll'', but everything since isn't that good.TheyChangedItNowItSucks section.



* UrbanLegends: Pete apparently had a (quite one-sided) crush on/fling with with Mikey Way of My Chemical Romance on Warped Tour 2005, also creating a group (Sweet Little Dudes/SLD) with Way. They remain friends to this day and reference the event/group on social media, often tweeting each other on Twitter from time to time (most notably about green tea KitKats) - the most recent interaction they had was on [[https://www.instagram.com/p/0wQRqxIitY/ Instagram]]. There is shaky proof to support the fling (such as Pete's old blog posts, fan accounts (most famously one where a fan stated they were waiting at the barriers early in the morning and Pete and Mikey emerged from the latter's trailer, apparently holding hands...) photos, and lyrics) as well as the fact that ''Bang The Doldrums'' from ''Infinity on High'' was supposedly written about Way. Neither bassist has ever commented on if it actually happened, but fanfiction and fanart are rife nonetheless.
2nd Dec '16 2:22:32 AM Kurochrome
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* UrbanLegends: Pete apparently had a (quite one-sided) crush on/fling with with Mikey Way of My Chemical Romance on Warped Tour 2005, also creating a group (Sweet Little Dudes/SLD) with Way. They remain friends to this day and reference the event/group on social media, often tweeting each other on Twitter from time to time (most notably about green tea KitKats) - the most recent interaction they had was on [[https://www.instagram.com/p/0wQRqxIitY/ Instagram]]. There is shaky proof to support the fling (such as Pete's old blog posts, fan accounts (most faqmously one where a fan stated they were waiting at the barriers early in the morning and Pete and Mikey emerged from the latter's trailer, apparently holding hands...) photos, and lyrics) as well as the fact that ''Bang The Doldrums'' from ''Infinity on High'' was supposedly written about Way. Neither bassist has ever commented on if it actually happened, but fanfiction and fanart are rife nonetheless.

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* UrbanLegends: Pete apparently had a (quite one-sided) crush on/fling with with Mikey Way of My Chemical Romance on Warped Tour 2005, also creating a group (Sweet Little Dudes/SLD) with Way. They remain friends to this day and reference the event/group on social media, often tweeting each other on Twitter from time to time (most notably about green tea KitKats) - the most recent interaction they had was on [[https://www.instagram.com/p/0wQRqxIitY/ Instagram]]. There is shaky proof to support the fling (such as Pete's old blog posts, fan accounts (most faqmously famously one where a fan stated they were waiting at the barriers early in the morning and Pete and Mikey emerged from the latter's trailer, apparently holding hands...) photos, and lyrics) as well as the fact that ''Bang The Doldrums'' from ''Infinity on High'' was supposedly written about Way. Neither bassist has ever commented on if it actually happened, but fanfiction and fanart are rife nonetheless.
2nd Dec '16 2:21:50 AM Kurochrome
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* UrbanLegends: Pete apparently had a (quite one-sided) crush on/fling with with Mikey Way of My Chemical Romance on Warped Tour 2005, also creating a group (Sweet Little Dudes/SLD) with Way. They remain friends to this day and reference the event/group on social media, often tweeting each other on Twitter from time to time (most notably about green tea KitKats) - the most recent interaction they had was on [[https://www.instagram.com/p/0wQRqxIitY/ Instagram]]. There is shaky proof to support the fling (such as Pete's old blog posts, fan accounts (most faqmously one where a fan stated they were waiting at the barriers early in the morning and Pete and Mikey emerged from the latter's trailer, apparently holding hands...) photos, and lyrics) as well as the fact that ''Bang The Doldrums'' from ''Infinity on High'' was supposedly written about Way. Neither bassist has ever commented on if it actually happened, but fanfiction and fanart are rife nonetheless.
3rd Nov '16 7:49:41 PM Shadeblade11
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* InternetBackdraft: In the midst of the American riots/Ferguson riots/#[=BlackLivesMatter=] protests, a fan asked Patrick what his thoughts were on Ferguson. The thing is, Patrick is known as a super nice guy[[note]]and Fall Out Boy has previously sided with black protestors in racial matters, see the story behind the creation of "You're Crashing, but You're No Wave[[/note]] and he didn't want to set out to alienate anybody. His attempts to say that he cared both about the protesters being treated unfairly and competent cops out there who aren't being jerks...failed miserably, as more extremely social justice minded fans on Twitter and Tumblr misread him as being "wishywashy" at best or siding with the cops at worse. He later apologized and reemphasized that he supported the protesters, but due to Tumblr and Twitter fans' tendency to be on the attack and Patrick's reputation in the fandom as being "not problematic", this didn't really do much. All because he was being nice and trying to elaborate on a complex issue in 140 characters.

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* InternetBackdraft: In the midst of the American riots/Ferguson riots/#[=BlackLivesMatter=] protests, a fan asked Patrick what his thoughts were on Ferguson. The thing is, Patrick is known as a super nice guy[[note]]and Fall Out Boy has previously sided with black protestors in racial matters, see the story behind the creation of "You're Crashing, but You're No Wave[[/note]] Wave"[[/note]] and he didn't want to set out to alienate anybody. His attempts to say that he cared both about the protesters being treated unfairly and competent cops out there who aren't being jerks...failed miserably, as more extremely social justice minded fans on Twitter and Tumblr misread him as being "wishywashy" at best or siding with the cops at worse. He later apologized and reemphasized that he supported the protesters, but due to Tumblr and Twitter fans' tendency to be on the attack and Patrick's reputation in the fandom as being "not problematic", this didn't really do much. All because he was being nice and trying to elaborate on a complex issue in 140 characters.
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