History YMMV / FallOutBoy

15th Jun '17 8:04:38 AM MikaHaeli8
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** "I Don't Care" from ''Folie a Deux'' is ''strongly'' reminiscent of "Personal Jesus" by Depeche Mode.
25th May '17 3:37:43 AM tenuousbreaker
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** The first single release off of every new Fall Out Boy album since ''Infinity On High'' consistently evokes strong, polarized reactions from the fanbase.



** You either love or hate ''Young and Menace.'' There's no in-between whatsoever. There's a debate among older fans who appreciate their earlier albums, but feel betrayed with the new releases and mindset Fall Out Boy seem to have that go against what they went into albums with in the past and others who don't feel the song's bad. The main complaints are that the songs are just terrible, have no meaning behind them, and are overproduced, with this song in particular being ''too'' much in that direction, with it having too many things going on and being very disconnected from each other.

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** You either love or hate Fall Out Boy's habit for experimentation leads to yet another contentious song among the fanbase: ''Young and Menace.'' There's no in-between whatsoever. There's a debate among older fans who appreciate their earlier albums, but feel betrayed with the new releases and mindset While Fall Out Boy seem to have dabbled before in electronic music elements like sampling, it comes across more strongly in this track which features studder vocals and a ''drop''. While most of the elements are actually done with traditional rock instruments and effects, that go against what they went into albums with in hasn't stopped the past and others "oldschool fans who don't feel like new Fall Out Boy material for perceived lack of depth versus everyone else who liked the song's bad. The main complaints are that the songs are just terrible, have no meaning behind them, and are overproduced, with this song in particular being ''too'' much in that direction, with it having too many things going on and being very disconnected from each other.song" conflicts.
14th May '17 2:15:03 PM ryanson209
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* InternetBackdraft: In the midst of the American riots/Ferguson riots/#[=BlackLivesMatter=] protests, a fan asked Patrick what his thoughts were on Ferguson. The thing is, Patrick is known as a super nice guy[[note]]and Fall Out Boy has previously sided with black protestors in racial matters, see the story behind the creation of "You're Crashing, but You're No Wave"[[/note]] and he didn't want to set out to alienate anybody. His attempts to say that he cared both about the protesters being treated unfairly and competent cops out there who aren't being jerks...failed miserably, as more extremely social justice minded fans on Twitter and Tumblr misread him as being "wishywashy" at best or siding with the cops at worse. He later apologized and reemphasized that he supported the protesters, but due to Tumblr and Twitter fans' tendency to be on the attack and Patrick's reputation in the fandom as being "not problematic", this didn't really do much. All because he was being nice and trying to elaborate on a complex issue in 140 characters.

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* InternetBackdraft: In the midst of the American riots/Ferguson riots/#[=BlackLivesMatter=] protests, a fan asked Patrick what his thoughts were on Ferguson. The thing is, Patrick is known as a super nice guy[[note]]and Fall Out Boy has previously sided with black protestors in racial matters, see the story behind the creation of "You're Crashing, but You're No Wave"[[/note]] and he didn't want to set out to alienate anybody. His attempts to say that he cared both about the protesters being treated unfairly and competent cops out there who aren't being jerks...failed miserably, as more extremely social justice minded fans on Twitter and Tumblr misread him as being "wishywashy" at best or siding with the cops at worse. He later apologized and reemphasized that he supported the protesters, but due to Tumblr and Twitter such fans' tendency to be on the attack and Patrick's reputation in the fandom as being "not problematic", this didn't really do much. All because he was being nice and trying to elaborate on a complex issue in 140 characters.
4th May '17 8:49:33 PM Shadeblade11
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** Over ''Folie a Deux'', though you'll find more people defending it these days than when it was first released. More generally, people who don't like the direction Fall Out Boy has taken since ''Take This To Your Grave''/''From Under The Cork Tree'' versus...everyone else. Less generally, between people who only like ''Take This To Your Grave''/''From Under The Cork Tree'', those who only like their pre-hiatus material, and those who like everything. Which albums fans in the latter camp prefer, obviously, vary based on personal preference, due to the amount of genre shifting they've done over the years.

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** Over ''Folie a Deux'', though you'll find more people defending it these days than when it was first released. More generally, people who don't like the direction Fall Out Boy has taken since ''Take This To Your Grave''/''From Under The Cork Tree'' versus...everyone else. Less generally, between people who only like ''Take This To Your Grave''/''From Under The Cork Tree'', those who only like their pre-hiatus material, and those who like everything. Which albums fans in the latter camp prefer, obviously, vary based on personal preference, due to the amount of genre shifting genre-shifting they've done over the years.



** You either love or hate 'Young and Menace.' There's no in-between whatsoever. There's even more debate between older fans who appreciate their earlier albums, but feel betrayed with the new releases and mindset Fall Out Boy seem to have that go against what they went into albums with in the past and others who don't feel the song's bad. The main complaints are that the songs are just terrible, have no meaning behind them, and are overproduced, with this song in particular being ''too'' much in that direction, with it having too many things going on and being very disconnected from each other.

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** You either love or hate 'Young ''Young and Menace.' '' There's no in-between whatsoever. There's even more a debate between among older fans who appreciate their earlier albums, but feel betrayed with the new releases and mindset Fall Out Boy seem to have that go against what they went into albums with in the past and others who don't feel the song's bad. The main complaints are that the songs are just terrible, have no meaning behind them, and are overproduced, with this song in particular being ''too'' much in that direction, with it having too many things going on and being very disconnected from each other.
2nd May '17 5:51:56 PM Scsigs
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** You either love or hate 'Young and Menace.' There's no in-between whatsoever. There's even more debate between older fans who appreciate their earlier albums, but feel betrayed with the new releases and mindset Fall Out Boy seem to have that go against what they went into albums with in the past and others who don't feel the song's bad. The main complaints are that the songs are just terrible, have no meaning behind them, and are overproduced, with this song in particular being ''too'' much in that direction, with it having too many things going on and being very disconnected from each other.
8th Apr '17 3:56:55 AM tenuousbreaker
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* Some people who didn't like Fall Out Boy's Ghostbusters song felt this way when they found out that "Who's the (Bat) Man" in The Lego Batman Movie wasn't sung by Will Arnet as Batman...but as ''Patrick'' singing in the style of Will Arnet's Batman voice.

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* ** Some people who didn't like Fall Out Boy's Ghostbusters song felt this way when they found out that "Who's the (Bat) Man" in The Lego Batman Movie wasn't sung by Will Arnet as Batman...but as ''Patrick'' singing in the style of Will Arnet's Batman voice.



** Even with previous rap precedent, Fall Out Boy touring with Music/WizKhalifa and Hoodie Allen for the Boys of Zummer tour has got this reaction. While there are reasonable complaints about why Fall Out Boy is touring with someone with rather blatant misogynistic lyrics when they've traditionally avoided that in their music and their touring partners, others have been sadly and unexpectedly racist.

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** Even with previous rap precedent, Fall Out Boy touring with Music/WizKhalifa Wiz Khalifa and Hoodie Allen for the Boys of Zummer tour has got this reaction. While there are reasonable complaints about why Fall Out Boy is touring with someone with rather blatant misogynistic lyrics when they've traditionally avoided that in their music and their touring partners, others have been sadly and unexpectedly racist.
7th Apr '17 7:06:58 PM tenuousbreaker
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** Is their song from the 2016 ''Ghostbusters'' reboot good or awful? General consensus seems to be that it's a bad remix/cover of the original, with some adding that it's more of Fall Out Boy on autopilot than them actually putting any heart into it[[note]]Compared to Fall Out Boy's usual output and the original song, the lyrics are unusually simplistic[[/note]] Patrick's vocals were also a point of contention, with some finding them great and others finding them uncharacteristically awful from him. There are a small section of fans who actually like it. The biggest point of agreement was that Music/MissyElliot's guest verse was good...unless you're a Fall Out Boy fan who doesn't like it when they work with rappers.

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** Is their song from the 2016 ''Ghostbusters'' reboot good or awful? General consensus seems to be that it's a bad remix/cover of the original, with some adding that it's more of Fall Out Boy on autopilot than them actually putting any heart into it[[note]]Compared to Fall Out Boy's usual output and the original song, the lyrics are unusually simplistic[[/note]] simplistic[[/note]]. Patrick's vocals were also a point of contention, with some finding them great and others finding them uncharacteristically awful from him. There are a small section of fans who actually like it. The biggest point of agreement was that Music/MissyElliot's Missy Elliot's guest verse was good...unless you're a Fall Out Boy fan who doesn't like it when they work with rappers.
7th Apr '17 6:39:12 PM tenuousbreaker
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* BrokenBase: Good god, I ''dare'' you to find one more broken about a band.
** You ever want a crash course about the fandom? The first lesson is that you usually fall into one of three camps; The kind of fan that loves only their first 2 albums, the kind that likes their first 4 and doesn't care as much for everything afterwards, or the kind that likes all of their material. If your part of that last one, which albums you prefer over the others will, obviously, vary based on personal preference, as they've tended to vary it up, sometimes quite drastically, between albums.
** Over ''Folie a Deux'', though you'll find more people defending it these days than when it was first released. More generally, people who don't like the direction Fall Out Boy has taken since ''Take This To Your Grave''/''From Under The Cork Tree'' versus...everyone else.

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* BrokenBase: Good god, I ''dare'' you to find one more broken about a band.
** You ever want a crash course about the fandom? The first lesson is that you usually fall into one of three camps; The kind of fan that loves only their first 2 albums, the kind that likes their first 4 and doesn't care as much for everything afterwards, or the kind that likes all of their material. If your part of that last one, which albums you prefer over the others will, obviously, vary based on personal preference, as they've tended to vary it up, sometimes quite drastically, between albums.
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** Over ''Folie a Deux'', though you'll find more people defending it these days than when it was first released. More generally, people who don't like the direction Fall Out Boy has taken since ''Take This To Your Grave''/''From Under The Cork Tree'' versus...everyone else. Less generally, between people who only like ''Take This To Your Grave''/''From Under The Cork Tree'', those who only like their pre-hiatus material, and those who like everything. Which albums fans in the latter camp prefer, obviously, vary based on personal preference, due to the amount of genre shifting they've done over the years.



** Is their song from the 2016 ''Ghostbusters'' reboot good, or awful? General consensus seems to be that it's a bad remix/cover of the original, with some adding that it's more of Fall Out Boy on autopilot than them actually putting any heart into it, even with Patrick sounding great on it, while there are a small section of fans who actually like it.

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** Is their song from the 2016 ''Ghostbusters'' reboot good, good or awful? General consensus seems to be that it's a bad remix/cover of the original, with some adding that it's more of Fall Out Boy on autopilot than them actually putting any heart into it, even it[[note]]Compared to Fall Out Boy's usual output and the original song, the lyrics are unusually simplistic[[/note]] Patrick's vocals were also a point of contention, with Patrick sounding some finding them great on it, while there and others finding them uncharacteristically awful from him. There are a small section of fans who actually like it.it. The biggest point of agreement was that Music/MissyElliot's guest verse was good...unless you're a Fall Out Boy fan who doesn't like it when they work with rappers.



** The band itself counts, as when they first came into the lime light songs like "Dance, Dance" had many in the music community writing them of as little more than a pop boy band doomed to quickly fade. Cue many eating their words in utter shock to find out songs like "My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark (Light 'Em Up)" and other post-hiatus hits were by the same band.

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** The band itself counts, as when they first came into the lime light limelight songs like "Dance, Dance" had many in the music community writing them of as little more than a pop boy band doomed to quickly fade. Cue many eating their words in utter shock to find out songs like "My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark (Light 'Em Up)" and other post-hiatus hits were by the same band.band.
* Some people who didn't like Fall Out Boy's Ghostbusters song felt this way when they found out that "Who's the (Bat) Man" in The Lego Batman Movie wasn't sung by Will Arnet as Batman...but as ''Patrick'' singing in the style of Will Arnet's Batman voice.



* VindicatedByHistory: ''Folie a Deux'', which was adored by critics and a ''massive'' LoveItOrHateIt upon its release (causing some pretty epic FanDumb over it), has rapidly become one of their more popular and well-loved albums since the end of the hiatus. Doesn't hurt that ''Save Rock And Roll'', which was almost universally adored by the fandom, sounds rather similar...or the fact that it's a natural move from ''Infinity on High'' and has legitimately good songs, especially when you appreciate the social commentary, or the self referential lines Pete wrote about his life at that point. There's so much emotion poured into the lines and songs on both Patrick's and Pete's parts that it's hard not to get into what each song is trying to say. Unfortunately, there are still ''some'' fans that don't like it, but they've had broken bases with every one of their albums, so it's nothing new.

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* VindicatedByHistory: ''Folie a Deux'', which was adored by critics and a ''massive'' LoveItOrHateIt upon its release (causing some pretty epic FanDumb over it), has rapidly become one of their more popular and well-loved albums since the end of the hiatus. Doesn't hurt that ''Save Rock And Roll'', which was almost universally adored by the fandom, sounds rather similar...or the fact that it's a natural move from ''Infinity on High'' and has legitimately good songs, especially when you appreciate the social commentary, commentary or the self referential lines Pete wrote about his life at that point. There's so much emotion poured into the lines and songs on both Patrick's and Pete's parts that it's hard not to get into what each song is trying to say. Unfortunately, there are still ''some'' fans that don't like it, but they've had broken bases with every one of their albums, so it's nothing new. Even more unfortunately for the fans that like ''Folie'', the band is still rather reluctant to embrace it due to the backlash it got in its first release.
19th Mar '17 11:00:13 PM Scsigs
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** Is their song from the 2016 ''Ghostbusters'' reboot good, or awful? General consensus seems to be that it's a bad remix/cover of the original, with some adding that it's more of Fall Out Boy on autopilot than them actually putting any heart into it, even with Patrick sounding great on it, while there are a small section of fans who actually like it.
22nd Feb '17 10:58:51 PM Scsigs
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** Over ''Folie a Deux'', though you'll find more people defending it these days than when it was first released. More generally, people who don't like the direction Fall Out Boy has taken since Take This To Your Grave/From Under The Cork Tree versus...everyone else.

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** Over ''Folie a Deux'', though you'll find more people defending it these days than when it was first released. More generally, people who don't like the direction Fall Out Boy has taken since Take ''Take This To Your Grave/From Grave''/''From Under The Cork Tree Tree'' versus...everyone else.
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