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* BaseBreaker: Apple White has become quickly in this. For some fans she is [[SpoiledSweet an adorable, sweet and kind character]]; for other, she is a rather selfish and annoying SpoiledBrat and a less interesting and more bland character compared with Raven.

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* BaseBreaker: Apple White has become quickly in this. For some fans she is [[SpoiledSweet an adorable, sweet and kind character]]; character]], who genuinely cares about her fellows, incluiding her supposedly enemie Raven Queen; for other, she is a rather selfish and annoying SpoiledBrat and a less interesting and more bland character compared with Raven.
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* BaseBreaker: Apple White has become quickly in this. For some fans she is [[SpoiledSweet an adorable, sweet and kind character]]; for other, she is a selfish and annoying SpoiledBrat and a less interesting and more bland character compared with Raven.

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* BaseBreaker: Apple White has become quickly in this. For some fans she is [[SpoiledSweet an adorable, sweet and kind character]]; for other, she is a rather selfish and annoying SpoiledBrat and a less interesting and more bland character compared with Raven.
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*** There are numerous princes in the Fairy Tale universe. While this means they aren't brother and sister, this could mean that they're actually just [[KissingCousins cousins.]]
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* BaseBreaker: Apple White has become quickly in this. For some fans she is [[SpoiledSweet an adorable, sweet and kind character]]; for other, she is an obnoxious and annoying SpoiledBrat and a less interesting and more bland character compared with Raven.

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* BaseBreaker: Apple White has become quickly in this. For some fans she is [[SpoiledSweet an adorable, sweet and kind character]]; for other, she is an obnoxious a selfish and annoying SpoiledBrat and a less interesting and more bland character compared with Raven.
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* BaseBreaker: Apple White has become quickly in this. For some fans she is [[SpoiledSweet an adorable, sweet and kind character]]; for other, she is an obnoxious and annoying SpoiledBrat and a less interesent character compared with Raven.

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* BaseBreaker: Apple White has become quickly in this. For some fans she is [[SpoiledSweet an adorable, sweet and kind character]]; for other, she is an obnoxious and annoying SpoiledBrat and a less interesent interesting and more bland character compared with Raven.
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* BaseBreaker: Apple White has become quickly in this. For some fans she is [[SpoiledSweet an adorable, sweet and kind character]]; for other, she is an obnoxious and annoying SpoiledBrat.

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* BaseBreaker: Apple White has become quickly in this. For some fans she is [[SpoiledSweet an adorable, sweet and kind character]]; for other, she is an obnoxious and annoying SpoiledBrat.SpoiledBrat and a less interesent character compared with Raven.
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* BaseBreaker: Apple White has become quickly in this. For some fans she is [[SpoiledSweet an adorable, sweet and kind character]]; for other, she is an obnoxios and annoying SpoiledBrat.

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* BaseBreaker: Apple White has become quickly in this. For some fans she is [[SpoiledSweet an adorable, sweet and kind character]]; for other, she is an obnoxios obnoxious and annoying SpoiledBrat.
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* BaseBreaker: Apple White has become quickly in this. For some fans she is [[SpoiledSweet an adorable, sweet and kind character]]; for other, she is an obnoxios and annoying SpoiledBrat.

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* FridgeHorror: Children of fairy tale characters are compelled to live out their parents' life-stories. Most fairy tale protagonists are motherless (and living mother-figures tend to be evil in fairy tales). This would mean the fairy tale princesses we all know and love either die shortly after having daughters (they might possibly have to commit suicide) or become AbusiveParents themselves.
** Of course, if the later is true, it would come off as their expected role, as how people expect Raven to poison Apple.
* FridgeLogic: If the princes are the sons of PrinceCharming, wouldn't that make them Apple White's brothers? [[BrotherSisterIncest They must be desperate to keep the blood-line going.]] (However, fanon has declared them Ashlynn's brothers until canon proves otherwise, going by DisneyAnimatedCanon logic -- the prince in the ''Cinderella'' movie was Charming while Snow White's was Ferdinand.)

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* FridgeHorror: Children of fairy tale characters are compelled to live out their parents' life-stories. Most fairy tale protagonists are motherless (and living mother-figures tend to be evil in fairy tales). This would mean the fairy tale princesses we all know and love either die shortly after having daughters (they might possibly have to commit suicide) or become AbusiveParents themselves.
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themselves. Of course, if the later is true, it would come off as their expected role, as how people expect Raven to poison Apple.
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If the princes are the sons of PrinceCharming, wouldn't that make them Apple White's brothers? [[BrotherSisterIncest They must be desperate to keep the blood-line going.]] (However, fanon has declared them Ashlynn's brothers until canon proves otherwise, going by DisneyAnimatedCanon logic -- the prince in the ''Cinderella'' movie was Charming while Snow White's was Ferdinand.)



*** It might be similar to how Apple is friendly to Raven: Snow White might think of the apple bringing her and the prince together, hence it's a good thing.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Raven being expected to turn evil because of her mother. In many classic fairy tales, having an evil mother-figure tends to be a prerequisite to be a fairy tale heroine. Snow White had an evil mother. Cinderella had an evil mother. Rapunzel had an evil mother. Hell, Sleeping Beauty had an evil mother-in-law for pity's sake. If anything, Raven should be expected to be a good guy!
** Except the first three were evil ''step''-mothers.
*** Funny story...the Evil Queen in Snow White originally was her birth mother.
** Plus, the evil stepmother usually comes with evil kids of her own, like Cinderella's step-sisters, so a world of fairy-tales wouldn't be out-of-line to expect the biological daughter of an evil queen to also be evil.
* DesignatedHero: Prince Daring, by virtue of [[BecauseDestinySaysSo being himself.]]
* DesignatedVillain: Raven Queen, as she's the daughter of the Evil Queen from Snow White.
** Keep in mind, she is an In-Universe example, the audience is meant to sympathize with her.
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*** It might be similar to how Apple is friendly to Raven: Snow White might think of the apple bringing her and the prince together, hence it's a good thing.

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*** It might be similar to how Apple is friendly to Raven: Snow White might think of the apple bringing her and the prince together, hence it's a good thing.thing.
* OlderThanTheyThink: Raven's mother, the Evil Queen, was sealed inside her own magic mirror after her story ended. This may have come from ''[[Disney/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs Fairest of All]]'', which shows the same thing befalling the movie's Grimhilde.
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*** Funny story...the Evil Queen in Snow White originally was her birth mother.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: In the "Stark Raven Mad" webisode, Raven loses her temper and accidentally turns Headmaster Grimm into a chicken with a human head. He and Apple are ''delighted'' that Raven's living up to her villainous destiny!
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: In the "Stark Raven Mad" webisode, Raven loses her temper and accidentally turns Headmaster Grimm into a chicken with a human head. He and Apple are ''delighted'' that Raven's living up to her villainous destiny!
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** Plus, the evil stepmother usually comes with evil kids of her own, like Cinderella's step-sisters, so a world of fairy-tales wouldn't be out-of-line to expect the biological daughter of an evil queen to also be evil.



** Why would Snow White name her daughter after [[HowDoYouLikeThemApples a fruit that almost killed her?]]

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** Why would Snow White name her daughter after [[HowDoYouLikeThemApples a fruit that almost killed her?]]her?]]
*** It might be similar to how Apple is friendly to Raven: Snow White might think of the apple bringing her and the prince together, hence it's a good thing.
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** Except the first three were evil ''step''-mothers.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: Raven being expected to turn evil because of her mother. In many classic fairy tales, having an evil mother-figure tends to be a prerequisite to be a fairy tale heroine. Snow White had an evil mother. Cinderella had an evil mother. Rapunzel had an evil mother. Hell, Sleeping Beauty had an evil mother-in-law for pity's sake. If anything, Raven should be expected to be a good guy!



** Raven being expected to turn evil because of her mother. In many classic fairy tales, the heroine is often antagonized by a mother-figure. Snow White has an evil stepmother. Cinderella has an evil stepmother. Rapunzel has an evil stepmother. Hell, Sleeping Beauty had an evil mother-in-law for pity's sake. If anything, Raven should be expected to be a good guy!
** Once again, the witch who poisoned Snow White was her stepmother. Wouldn't this make Raven Apple's aunt?
** The premise of the characters being forced to live out their parents' stories. Take for instance, Ashlynn, how can she end up a princess by marriage when she is already a princess.
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* FridgeHorror: Children of fairy tale characters are compelled to live out their parents' life-stories. Most fairy tale protagonists are motherless (and living mother-figures tend to be evil in fairy tales). This would mean the fairy tale princesses we all know and love either die shortly after having daughters or become AbusiveParents themselves.

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* FridgeHorror: Children of fairy tale characters are compelled to live out their parents' life-stories. Most fairy tale protagonists are motherless (and living mother-figures tend to be evil in fairy tales). This would mean the fairy tale princesses we all know and love either die shortly after having daughters (they might possibly have to commit suicide) or become AbusiveParents themselves.

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* FridgeLogic: If the princes are the sons of PrinceCharming, wouldn't that make them Apple White's brothers? [[BrotherSisterIncest They must be desperate to keep the blood-line going.]]

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* FridgeLogic: If the princes are the sons of PrinceCharming, wouldn't that make them Apple White's brothers? [[BrotherSisterIncest They must be desperate to keep the blood-line going.]]]] (However, fanon has declared them Ashlynn's brothers until canon proves otherwise, going by DisneyAnimatedCanon logic -- the prince in the ''Cinderella'' movie was Charming while Snow White's was Ferdinand.)
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** Keep in mind, she is an In-Universe example, the audience is meant to sympathize with her.
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** Why would Snow White name her daughter after [[PoisonApple a fruit that almost killed her?]]

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** Why would Snow White name her daughter after [[PoisonApple [[HowDoYouLikeThemApples a fruit that almost killed her?]]
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** Why would Snow White name her daughter after a fruit that almost killed her?

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** Why would Snow White name her daughter after [[PoisonApple a fruit that almost killed her?her?]]
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** The premise of the characters being forced to live out their parents' stories. Take for instance, Ashlynn, how can she end up a princess by marriage when she is already a princess.

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** The premise of the characters being forced to live out their parents' stories. Take for instance, Ashlynn, how can she end up a princess by marriage when she is already a princess.princess.
** Why would Snow White name her daughter after a fruit that almost killed her?

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* FridgeHorror: Children of fairy tale characters are compelled to live out their parents' life-stories. Most fairy tale protagonists are either orphans, abused by parents, or both. This would mean the fairy tale princesses we all know and love either die shortly after having daughters or become AbusiveParents themselves.

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* FridgeHorror: Children of fairy tale characters are compelled to live out their parents' life-stories. Most fairy tale protagonists are either orphans, abused by parents, or both. motherless (and living mother-figures tend to be evil in fairy tales). This would mean the fairy tale princesses we all know and love either die shortly after having daughters or become AbusiveParents themselves.themselves.
** Of course, if the later is true, it would come off as their expected role, as how people expect Raven to poison Apple.
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* FridgeHorror: Children of fairy tale characters are compelled to live out their parents' life-stories. Most fairy tale protagonists are either orphans, abused by parents, or both. This would mean the fairy tale princesses we all know and love either die shortly after having daughters or become AbusiveParents themselves.



** Once again, the witch who poisoned Snow White was her stepmother. Wouldn't this make Raven Apple's aunt?

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** Once again, the witch who poisoned Snow White was her stepmother. Wouldn't this make Raven Apple's aunt?aunt?
** The premise of the characters being forced to live out their parents' stories. Take for instance, Ashlynn, how can she end up a princess by marriage when she is already a princess.
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* FridgeLogic: If the princes are the sons of PrinceCharming, wouldn't that make them Apple White's brothers?

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* FridgeLogic: If the princes are the sons of PrinceCharming, wouldn't that make them Apple White's brothers?brothers? [[BrotherSisterIncest They must be desperate to keep the blood-line going.]]
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* DesignatedVillain: Raven Queen, as she's the daughter of the Evil Queen from Snow White.

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* DesignatedVillain: Raven Queen, as she's the daughter of the Evil Queen from Snow White.White.
* FridgeLogic: If the princes are the sons of PrinceCharming, wouldn't that make them Apple White's brothers?
** Raven being expected to turn evil because of her mother. In many classic fairy tales, the heroine is often antagonized by a mother-figure. Snow White has an evil stepmother. Cinderella has an evil stepmother. Rapunzel has an evil stepmother. Hell, Sleeping Beauty had an evil mother-in-law for pity's sake. If anything, Raven should be expected to be a good guy!
** Once again, the witch who poisoned Snow White was her stepmother. Wouldn't this make Raven Apple's aunt?
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Since Apple White wants Raven to poisen HER, I\'m pretty sure it\'s the evil queen from that story.


* DesignatedVillain: Raven Queen, as she's the daughter of the Evil Queen from Sleeping Beauty.

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* DesignatedVillain: Raven Queen, as she's the daughter of the Evil Queen from Sleeping Beauty.Snow White.
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* DesignatedHero: Prince Daring, by virtue of [[BecauseDestinySaysSo being himself.]]
* DesignatedVillain: Raven Queen, as she's the daughter of the Evil Queen from Sleeping Beauty.

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