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** The taser gun no longer works against Riot Suit guards in the HD remaster, even though it does in the original game.
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** There's also the Minigun, which carries infinite ammo.



* SpiritualSuccessor: This game can be considered one to other first-person stealth games, such as VideoGame/{{Thief}} and VideoGame/DeusEx, since those two games also involve sneaking in the shadows to get around enemies, as well as picking up dead bodies and hiding them. In fact, the conversation system in ''Butcher Bay'' appears to be heavily inspired by the conversation system in Deus Ex.

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* SpiritualSuccessor: This game can be considered one to other first-person stealth games, such as VideoGame/{{Thief}} and VideoGame/DeusEx, since those two games also involve sneaking in the shadows to get around enemies, as well as picking up dead bodies and hiding them. In fact, the conversation system in ''Butcher Bay'' appears to be heavily inspired by the conversation system in Deus Ex.Ex.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: While the HD remaster of this game included in VideoGame/AssaultOnDarkAthena is mostly the same, there were a lot of minor, but at the same time, bizarre and unnecessary, changes added in that left some fans disappointed.
** For starters, you can no longer jump while in stealth mode, and if you try, it will take you out of stealth mode.
** In the original game, you could knock enemies out by melee attacking them with a gun. However this no longer works in the remaster, meaning that if you melee attack an enemy with your gun, it wont knock them out and instead mildly hurt them.
** There was also a zoom-in mechanic that helps you see enemies from a distance. This was also removed in the HD remaster and was replaced with an aiming mechanic instead.
** In the PC version of the HD remaster, for some strange reason they decided to remove the quick save feature that was in the PC port of the original game, which really came in handy for players who wanted to save the game in a certain part of the level.
** In the sewer level where Riddick must fight through swarms of zombies, there is a part where he must find a broken valve and attach it back to where it was in order to open a gate and further progress. This was also changed in the HD remaster where the Valve is no longer broken off or missing and is already in place.
** In the level where Riddick finds a riot suit, you could melee attack enemies which was deadly enough to send them flying a distance away. Unfortunately in the HD remaster, melee attacking enemies in the suit is no longer as effective, meaning it now takes a few hits to kill an enemy if you choose to melee it, making it less satisfying.
** In the final level where Riddick must fight off Hoxie's two armored guards, they had force field shields in the original game, making them quite tough, while in the HD remake they decided to remove the force fields from them, making them easier to kill but also less challenging.
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* SpiritualSucessor: This game can be considered such to VideoGame/Thief and VideoGame/DeusEx, since those two are also first-person stealth games that involve sneaking in the shadows to get around enemies, as well as picking up dead bodies and hiding them.

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* SpiritualSucessor: SpiritualSuccessor: This game can be considered one to other first-person stealth games, such to VideoGame/Thief as VideoGame/{{Thief}} and VideoGame/DeusEx, since those two are also first-person stealth games that also involve sneaking in the shadows to get around enemies, as well as picking up dead bodies and hiding them.them. In fact, the conversation system in ''Butcher Bay'' appears to be heavily inspired by the conversation system in Deus Ex.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Masterfully averted; ''Butcher Bay'' is in fact regarded [[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames as one of the finest games to come up at the time]] and many went as far as saying that it was better than the movie it was supposed to tie in. ''Dark Athena'', while not as great, isn't half bad either. [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee himself]] has stated he likes ''Butcher Bay.''

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Masterfully averted; ''Butcher Bay'' is in fact regarded [[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames as one of the finest games to come up at the time]] and many went as far as saying that it was better than the movie it was supposed to tie in. ''Dark Athena'', while not as great, isn't half bad either. [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee himself]] has stated he likes ''Butcher Bay.''''
* SpiritualSucessor: This game can be considered such to VideoGame/Thief and VideoGame/DeusEx, since those two are also first-person stealth games that involve sneaking in the shadows to get around enemies, as well as picking up dead bodies and hiding them.
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* CatharsisFactor: After seeing [[TheBully Abbott]] being an asshole and treating prisoners like crap, getting to shoot him when you encounter him in his apartment is pretty fulfilling. He does survive, unfortuanately. However you get to fight with him later on in Tower 17, which is also quite satisfying.
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** This is somewhat subverted however, since the tazer gun does come in handy if you need more darkness to sneak around enemies by shooting at lights.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Masterfully averted; ''Butcher Bay'' is in fact regarded [[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames as one of the finest games to come up at the time]] and many went as far as saying that it was better than the movie it was supposed to tie in. ''Dark Athena'', while not as great, isn't half bad either. [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee himself]] has stated he likes ''Butcher Bay.''
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: While the HD remake included in Dark Athena is mostly the same, they have made some minor, but at the same time, unnecessary changes that left fans understandably not too happy.
** In the part where Riddick has to fight these zombie-like creatures through the pit, there is a part where you have to find a missing valve in order to open a gate. This was, however, changed in the remake where the valve is now already there, meaning the player no longer has to find it, which kind of takes away the challenge and tension.
** The stun gun you pick up in the mines now no longer works against the heavy armour guards, even though they were effective against them in the original, making it even harder to get around them.
** Hoxey's two personal guards who you fight at the end of the game also no longer have energy shields, making them easier to kill, and also taking away the challenge.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Masterfully averted; ''Butcher Bay'' is in fact regarded [[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames as one of the finest games to come up at the time]] and many went as far as saying that it was better than the movie it was supposed to tie in. ''Dark Athena'', while not as great, isn't half bad either. [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee himself]] has stated he likes ''Butcher Bay.''
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: While the HD remake included in Dark Athena is mostly the same, they have made some minor, but at the same time, unnecessary changes that left fans understandably not too happy.
** In the part where Riddick has to fight these zombie-like creatures through the pit, there is a part where you have to find a missing valve in order to open a gate. This was, however, changed in the remake where the valve is now already there, meaning the player no longer has to find it, which kind of takes away the challenge and tension.
** The stun gun you pick up in the mines now no longer works against the heavy armour guards, even though they were effective against them in the original, making it even harder to get around them.
** Hoxey's two personal guards who you fight at the end of the game also no longer have energy shields, making them easier to kill, and also taking away the challenge.
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** The minigun you pick later in the game carries ammo in the original game. But now, for some reason in the remake, it has unlimited ammo, which takes away the challenge.
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** The enemy AI was also replaced with the AI from Dark Athena. The reason this is a bad thing is because the AI in Dark Athena is very poor, because enemies now can all of a sudden find out where you are because you fired your weapon (no matter where you are) or by simply exposing yourself even if they haven't seen you directly, making the stealth sections much more frustrating and almost resulting in FakeDifficulty.
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* SpiritualSucsessor: Could arguably be considered one to VideoGame/Thief, which also features stealth and hiding in the shadows.
* ThatOneLevel: The part where you have to find Jagger Valence in the mines is easily the toughest part in the game. You have to sneak past enemies without being seen and without any guns, except for a dart gun you can buy off an inmate, which does it make it easier, but still. Plus it's easy to get lost as you're not giving much indication where to go.
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* SpiritualSucsessor: Could arguably be considered one to VideoGame/Thief, which also features stealth and hiding in the shadows.
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** The enemy AI was also replaced with the AI from Dark Athena. The reason this is a bad thing is because the AI in Dark Athena is very poor, because enemies now can all of a sudden find out where you are because you fired your weapon (no matter where you are) or by simply exposing yourself even if they haven't seen you directly, making the stealth sections much more frustrating.

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** The enemy AI was also replaced with the AI from Dark Athena. The reason this is a bad thing is because the AI in Dark Athena is very poor, because enemies now can all of a sudden find out where you are because you fired your weapon (no matter where you are) or by simply exposing yourself even if they haven't seen you directly, making the stealth sections much more frustrating.frustrating and almost resulting in FakeDifficulty.
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** The enemy AI was also replaced with the AI from Dark Athena. The reason this is a bad thing is because the AI in Dark Athena is very poor, because enemies now can all of a sudden find out where you are because you fired your weapon (no matter where you are) or by simply exposing yourself even if they haven't seen you directly, making the game much more frustrating.

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** The enemy AI was also replaced with the AI from Dark Athena. The reason this is a bad thing is because the AI in Dark Athena is very poor, because enemies now can all of a sudden find out where you are because you fired your weapon (no matter where you are) or by simply exposing yourself even if they haven't seen you directly, making the game stealth sections much more frustrating.
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** The enemy AI was also replaced with the AI from Dark Athena. The reason this is a bad thing is because the AI in Dark Athena is very poor, because enemies now can all of a sudden find out where you are because you fired your weapon, no matter where you are. And also, the heavy armour guards can now see you through walls somehow.
** The stun gun you pick up in the mines now no longer works against the heavy armour guards, even though they were effective against them in the original, making it even more frustrating to get around them.

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** The enemy AI was also replaced with the AI from Dark Athena. The reason this is a bad thing is because the AI in Dark Athena is very poor, because enemies now can all of a sudden find out where you are because you fired your weapon, no weapon (no matter where you are. And also, are) or by simply exposing yourself even if they haven't seen you directly, making the heavy armour guards can now see you through walls somehow.
game much more frustrating.
** The stun gun you pick up in the mines now no longer works against the heavy armour guards, even though they were effective against them in the original, making it even more frustrating harder to get around them.
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** In the part where Riddick has to fight these zombie-like creatures through the pit, there is a part where you have to find a missing valve in order to open a gate to get tu further progress. This was, however, changed in the remake where the valve is now already there, meaning the player no longer has to find it, which kind of takes away the challenge and tension
** The enemy AI was also replaced with the enemy AI from Dark Athena. The reason this is a bad thing is because the AI in Dark Athena is very poor, because enemies now can all of a sudden find out where you are because you fired your weapon, no matter where you are. And also, the heavy armour guards can see you through walls somehow.

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** In the part where Riddick has to fight these zombie-like creatures through the pit, there is a part where you have to find a missing valve in order to open a gate to get tu further progress. gate. This was, however, changed in the remake where the valve is now already there, meaning the player no longer has to find it, which kind of takes away the challenge and tension
tension.
** The enemy AI was also replaced with the enemy AI from Dark Athena. The reason this is a bad thing is because the AI in Dark Athena is very poor, because enemies now can all of a sudden find out where you are because you fired your weapon, no matter where you are. And also, the heavy armour guards can now see you through walls somehow.
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** In the part where Riddick has to fight these zombie-like creature through the pit, there is a part where you have to find a missing valve in order to open a gate to get tu further progress. This was, however, changed in the remake where the valve is now already there, meaning the player no longer has to find it, which kind of takes away the challenge and tension

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** In the part where Riddick has to fight these zombie-like creature creatures through the pit, there is a part where you have to find a missing valve in order to open a gate to get tu further progress. This was, however, changed in the remake where the valve is now already there, meaning the player no longer has to find it, which kind of takes away the challenge and tension
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* ThatOneLevel: The part where you have to find Jagger Valence in the mines is easily the toughest part in the game. You have to sneak past enemies without being seen and without any guns, except for a dart gun you can buy off an inmate, which does it make it easier, but still.

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* ThatOneLevel: The part where you have to find Jagger Valence in the mines is easily the toughest part in the game. You have to sneak past enemies without being seen and without any guns, except for a dart gun you can buy off an inmate, which does it make it easier, but still. Plus it's easy to get lost as you're not giving much indication where to go.
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* ThatOneLevel: The part where you have to find Jagger Valence in the mines is easily the toughest part in the game. You have to sneak past enemies without being seen and without any guns, except for a dart gun you can buy off an inmate, which does it make it easier, but still.
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* TheyChangeditNowItSucks: While the HD remake included in Dark Athena is mostly the same, they have made some minor, but at the same time, unnecessary changes that left fans understandably not too happy.

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* TheyChangeditNowItSucks: TheyChangedItNowItSucks: While the HD remake included in Dark Athena is mostly the same, they have made some minor, but at the same time, unnecessary changes that left fans understandably not too happy.



** The enemy AI was also replaced with the enemy AI from Dark Athena. The reason this is a bad is because the AI in Dark Athena is very poor, because enemies now can all of a sudden find out where you are because you fired your weapon, no matter where you are. And also, the heavy armour guards can see you through walls somehow.

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** The enemy AI was also replaced with the enemy AI from Dark Athena. The reason this is a bad thing is because the AI in Dark Athena is very poor, because enemies now can all of a sudden find out where you are because you fired your weapon, no matter where you are. And also, the heavy armour guards can see you through walls somehow.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Masterfully averted; ''Butcher Bay'' is in fact regarded [[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames as one of the finest games to come up at the time]] and many went as far as saying that it was better than the movie it was supposed to tie in. ''Dark Athena'', while not as great, isn't half bad either. [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee himself]] has stated he likes ''Butcher Bay.''

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Masterfully averted; ''Butcher Bay'' is in fact regarded [[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames as one of the finest games to come up at the time]] and many went as far as saying that it was better than the movie it was supposed to tie in. ''Dark Athena'', while not as great, isn't half bad either. [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee himself]] has stated he likes ''Butcher Bay.''''
* TheyChangeditNowItSucks: While the HD remake included in Dark Athena is mostly the same, they have made some minor, but at the same time, unnecessary changes that left fans understandably not too happy.
** In the part where Riddick has to fight these zombie-like creature through the pit, there is a part where you have to find a missing valve in order to open a gate to get tu further progress. This was, however, changed in the remake where the valve is now already there, meaning the player no longer has to find it, which kind of takes away the challenge and tension
** The enemy AI was also replaced with the enemy AI from Dark Athena. The reason this is a bad is because the AI in Dark Athena is very poor, because enemies now can all of a sudden find out where you are because you fired your weapon, no matter where you are. And also, the heavy armour guards can see you through walls somehow.
** The stun gun you pick up in the mines now no longer works against the heavy armour guards, even though they were effective against them in the original, making it even more frustrating to get around them.
** The minigun you pick later in the game carries ammo in the original game. But now, for some reason in the remake, it has unlimited ammo, which takes away the challenge.
** Hoxey's two personal guards who you fight at the end of the game also no longer have energy shields, making them easier to kill, and also taking away the challenge.
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* BreatherLevel: The final, Triple Max segment is much shorter and easier than the often-grueling Double Max segment.

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* BreatherLevel: The final, Triple Max segment is much shorter and easier than the long, often-grueling Double Max segment.
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* BreatherLevel: The final, Triple Max segment is much shorter and easier than the often-grueling Double Max segment.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The games have largely ambient, atmospheric music, but some standout pieces include "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdxCHXrTMPA Prison Break]]" and "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B88ZLp3Sx9k Drone Mile]]".

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The games have largely ambient, atmospheric music, but some standout pieces include "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdxCHXrTMPA Prison Break]]" and "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B88ZLp3Sx9k Drone Mile]]".
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* PolishedPort: The second PC version has updated visuals, gameplay improvements, and the added content of the first PC version. On top of that, it comes free with it's sequel.
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* GameBreaker: To compensate for the fact that you don't have any other projectile weapons, the taser gun you get for the duration of the mining area will render anything it hits incapable of movement for several seconds, ready to be boot-stomped into the afterlife.
* NightmareFuel: After falling into the Pit, you first have to find a way with only a few minutes of battery left in your torch, and later you have another task to do there with just a dozen flares at disposal. All this while natural light sources are almost nil (you don't have the Eyeshine yet), and with constant assaults by small packs of Dwellers - who are they, by the way? Humanoid natives of the planet? Mutants? Men thrown down there and devolved into a feral state by madness? The alien beasts you encounter later can be unsettling, but never like that thankfully short level.

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* GameBreaker: To compensate for the fact that you don't have any other projectile weapons, the taser gun you get for the duration of the mining area will render anything it hits incapable of movement for several seconds, ready to be boot-stomped into the afterlife.
afterlife. In the original 2004 release, it can even stun the exoskeleton guards for a few seconds.
* NightmareFuel: After falling into the Pit, you first have to find a way with only a few minutes of battery left in your torch, and a little later you have another task to do there with just a dozen flares at disposal. All this while natural light sources are almost nil (you don't have the Eyeshine yet), and with constant assaults by small packs of Dwellers - who are they, by the way? Humanoid natives of the planet? Mutants? Men men thrown down there and devolved into a feral state by madness? madness and exposure to toxic waste. The alien beasts you encounter later can be unsettling, but never like that thankfully short level.
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* NightmareFuel: After falling into the Pit, you first have to find a way with only a few minutes of battery left in your torch, and later you have another task to do there with just a dozen flares at disposal. All this while natural light sources are almost nil (you don't have the Eyeshine yet), and with constant assaults by small packs of Dwellers - who are they, by the way? Humanoid natives of the planet? Mutants? Men thrown down there and devolved into a feral state by madness? The alien beasts you encounter later can be unsettling, but never like that thankfully short level.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Masterfully averted; ''Butcher Bay'' is in fact regarded [[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames as one of the finest games to come up at the time]] and many went as far as saying that it was better than the movie it was supposed to tie in. ''Dark Athena'', while not as great, isn't half bad either. [[ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee himself]] has stated he likes ''Butcher Bay.''

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Masterfully averted; ''Butcher Bay'' is in fact regarded [[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames as one of the finest games to come up at the time]] and many went as far as saying that it was better than the movie it was supposed to tie in. ''Dark Athena'', while not as great, isn't half bad either. [[ZeroPunctuation [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee himself]] has stated he likes ''Butcher Bay.''
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Masterfully averted; ''Butcher Bay'' is in fact regarded [[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames as one of the finest games to come up at the time]] and many went as far as saying that it was better than the movie it was supposed to tie in. ''Dark Athena'', while not as great, isn't half bad either.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Masterfully averted; ''Butcher Bay'' is in fact regarded [[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames as one of the finest games to come up at the time]] and many went as far as saying that it was better than the movie it was supposed to tie in. ''Dark Athena'', while not as great, isn't half bad either. [[ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee himself]] has stated he likes ''Butcher Bay.''
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* GameBreaker: To compensate for the fact that you don't have any other projectile weapons, the taser gun you get for the duration of the mining area will render anything it hits incapable of movement for several seconds, ready to be boot-stomped into the afterlife.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The games have largely ambient, atmospheric music, but some standout pieces include "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdxCHXrTMPA Prison Break]]" and "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B88ZLp3Sx9k Drone Mile]]".
* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Masterfully averted; ''Butcher Bay'' is in fact regarded [[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames as one of the finest games to come up at the time]] and many went as far as saying that it was better than the movie it was supposed to tie in. ''Dark Athena'', while not as great, isn't half bad either.

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