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* AwardSnub: One of Creator/JohnnyDepp's best performances went un-nominated. Also, the gorgeous black and white cinematography was snubbed.

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* AwardSnub: One of Creator/JohnnyDepp's best performances went un-nominated.wasn't nominated for an UsefulNotes/AcademyAward. Also, the gorgeous black and white cinematography was snubbed.
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** Ed complains that studios are always wanting to cast their buddies in films; director Tim Burton has been known to work (almost exclusively on occasion) with his ProductionPosse (Johnny Depp, Helena Bonham Carter (and before her, Lisa Marie) Film/ChristopherLee, Creator/WinonaRyder etc.) Also Ed notes that sometimes these people aren't even right for the part, which matches criticisms that Burton miscast Depp and Bonham Carter in Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet.

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** Ed complains that studios are always wanting to cast their buddies in films; director Tim Burton has been known to work (almost exclusively on occasion) with his ProductionPosse (Johnny Depp, Helena Bonham Carter (and before her, Lisa Marie) Film/ChristopherLee, Creator/ChristopherLee, Creator/WinonaRyder etc.) Also Ed notes that sometimes these people aren't even right for the part, which matches criticisms that Burton miscast Depp and Bonham Carter in Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet.
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** Ed complains that studios are always wanting to cast their buddies in films; director Tim Burton has been known to work (almost exclusively on occasion) with his ProductionPosse (Johnny Depp, Helena Bonham Carter (and before her, Lisa Marie) Film/ChristopherLee, Creator/WinonaRyder etc.) Also Ed notes that sometimes these people aren't even right for the part, which matches criticisms that Burton miscast Depp and Bonham Carter in Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet.
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** Dolores Fuller, played by Creator/SarahJessicaParker, questions if she really has a face like a horse, 14 years before a blog post comparing Parker's face to an actual horse and subsequent ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' jokes were made.
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** Ed and his ragtag crew having to flee from the cops before they're caught shooting their NoBudget film on location without a permit. This is exactly how ''Film/{{Pi}}'' was made.

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** Ed and his ragtag crew having to flee from the cops before they're caught shooting their NoBudget film on location without a permit. This is exactly how ''Film/{{Pi}}'' was made.made -- and, for that matter, ''Film/TheRoom'', which just adds a further layer of hilarity to the comparisons between Wood and Creator/TommyWiseau.
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* FairForItsDay: The film has a fair bit of DeliberateValuesDissonance, such as Ed being asked if he's a "fruit" or a "fag" when he mentions his cross-dressing, and Bunny's [[TooMuchInformation openness about his hypothetical sex change]] is {{played for laughs}}. Despite this, LGBTQ characters are otherwise depicted in a largely unassuming light, with both the narrative and heteronormative characters treating them with relative normalcy which was unthinkable in the 1950s and only slightly less so in the 1990s. As mentioned on the trivia page, the popularity of this film elevated the real Ed Wood to an LTBGQ icon.

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* FairForItsDay: The film has a fair bit of DeliberateValuesDissonance, such as Ed being asked if he's a "fruit" or a "fag" when he mentions his cross-dressing, and Bunny's [[TooMuchInformation openness about his hypothetical sex change]] is {{played for laughs}}. Despite this, LGBTQ characters are otherwise depicted in a largely unassuming light, with both the narrative and heteronormative characters treating them with relative normalcy which was unthinkable in the 1950s and only slightly less so in the 1990s. As mentioned on the trivia page, the popularity of this film elevated the real Ed Wood to an LTBGQ LBGTQ icon.

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* {{Adorkable}}: Ed's boundless optimism, never-say-die attitude, passion for film-making and fanboying of Creator/BelaLugosi make him positively endearing.



* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/MartinLandau played Creator/BelaLugosi, who played a popular [[{{Film/Dracula 1931}} fictional vampire]]. A couple of years later, his daughter Creator/JulietLandau would play [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer another popular fictional vampire]].

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Creator/MartinLandau played Creator/BelaLugosi, who played a popular [[{{Film/Dracula 1931}} fictional vampire]]. A couple of years later, his daughter Creator/JulietLandau would play [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer another popular fictional vampire]].



* MemeticMutation: "What do ''you'' know? Haven't you heard of suspension of disbelief?"

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* AwardSnub: One of Creator/JohnnyDepp's best performances went un-nominated. Also, the gorgeous black and white cinematography was snubbed.



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* HarsherInHindsight:
** As WebVideo/RedLetterMedia pointed out on ''WebVideo/ReView'', the WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue tells us that Ed had two failed marriages and became an alcoholic. This mirrors what happened to Creator/JohnnyDepp in RealLife, making the film come off as eerily prophetic.
** Dolores angrily throws things at Ed when she loses a part in ''Film/BrideOfTheMonster''. Among Depp's accusations against his ex-wife Creator/AmberHeard, were her throwing things at him.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** Reading a review, Creator/SarahJessicaParker says "Do I really have a face like a horse?" She would start getting a lot of that during ''Series/SexAndTheCity''.
** Creator/MartinLandau played Creator/BelaLugosi, who played a popular [[{{Film/Dracula 1931}} fictional vampire]]. A couple of years later, his daughter Creator/JulietLandau would play [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer another popular fictional vampire]].

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* HarsherInHindsight:
** As WebVideo/RedLetterMedia pointed out on ''WebVideo/ReView'', the WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue tells us that Ed had two failed marriages and became an alcoholic. This mirrors what happened to Creator/JohnnyDepp in RealLife, making the film come off as eerily prophetic.
** Dolores angrily throws things at Ed when she loses a part in ''Film/BrideOfTheMonster''. Among Depp's accusations against his ex-wife Creator/AmberHeard, were her throwing things at him.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** Reading a review, Creator/SarahJessicaParker says "Do I really have a face like a horse?" She would start getting a lot of that during ''Series/SexAndTheCity''.
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HilariousInHindsight: Creator/MartinLandau played Creator/BelaLugosi, who played a popular [[{{Film/Dracula 1931}} fictional vampire]]. A couple of years later, his daughter Creator/JulietLandau would play [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer another popular fictional vampire]].
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** As WebVideo/RedLetterMedia pointed out on ''WebVideo/ReView'', the WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue tells us that Ed had two failed marriages and became an alcoholic. This mirrors what happened to Creator/JohnnyDepp in RealLife.
** Dolores angrily throws things at Ed when she loses a part in ''Film/BrideOfTheMonster''. Among Depp's accusations against his ex-wife Creator/AmberHeard, were her throwing various items at him.

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** As WebVideo/RedLetterMedia pointed out on ''WebVideo/ReView'', the WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue tells us that Ed had two failed marriages and became an alcoholic. This mirrors what happened to Creator/JohnnyDepp in RealLife.
RealLife, making the film come off as eerily prophetic.
** Dolores angrily throws things at Ed when she loses a part in ''Film/BrideOfTheMonster''. Among Depp's accusations against his ex-wife Creator/AmberHeard, were her throwing various items things at him.
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** Dolores angrily throws things at Ed when she loses a part in ''Film/BrideOfTheMonster''. In 2020, it was revealed that Depp was physically abused by his ex-wife Creator/AmberHeard, who ''threw plant pots at him''.

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** Dolores angrily throws things at Ed when she loses a part in ''Film/BrideOfTheMonster''. In 2020, it was revealed that Depp was physically abused by Among Depp's accusations against his ex-wife Creator/AmberHeard, who ''threw plant pots were her throwing various items at him''.him.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: While the film plays loosely with history throughout, it's also been described as "the kind of biopic Creator/EdWood would have made for himself." Everything that happens after Ed storms out of the ''Plan 9'' shoot in drag is completely made up: he certainly didn't meet Creator/OrsonWelles and the movie ''definitely'' didn't have such a lavish, heavily publicized premiere. Is the film simply being kind to Ed by giving him a happy ending he could only wish he'd ever get, it the film supposed to be Ed's memories and he's remembering them in more flattering ways than they happened or, considering that Wood was [[TheAlcoholic an alcoholic]] and immediately goes to a bar, is it [[AllJustADream all just a drunken stupor]]?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: While the film plays loosely with history throughout, it's also been described as "the kind of biopic Creator/EdWood would have made for himself." Everything that happens after Ed storms out of the ''Plan 9'' shoot in drag is completely made up: he certainly didn't meet Creator/OrsonWelles and the movie ''definitely'' didn't have such a lavish, heavily publicized premiere. Is the film simply being kind to Ed by giving him a happy ending he could only wish he'd ever get, it is the film supposed to be Ed's memories and he's remembering them in more flattering ways than they happened or, considering that Wood was [[TheAlcoholic an alcoholic]] and immediately goes to a bar, is it [[AllJustADream all just a drunken stupor]]?
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* ValuesResonance: DeliberateValuesDissonance notwithstanding, the movie has a very accepting attitude towards its LGBT characters. Ed and Bunny are eccentric misfits who are nonetheless portrayed with humanity and sympathy by both the narrative and the heteronormative characters. While only slightly less unheard of today, it was hardly common for mainstream comedies in the nineties to be anywhere near this kind to gay or gender-nonconforming characters (''Film/AceVenturaPetDetective'', with it's infamous [[UnsettlingGenderReveal "Einhorn is a man!" scene]], was released only a few months before this one, and the rest of the decade wasn't much kinder).

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* ValuesResonance: DeliberateValuesDissonance notwithstanding, the movie has a very accepting attitude towards its LGBT characters. Ed and Bunny are eccentric misfits who are nonetheless portrayed with humanity and sympathy by both the narrative and the heteronormative characters. While only slightly less unheard of today, it was hardly common for mainstream comedies in the nineties to be anywhere near this kind to gay or gender-nonconforming characters (''Film/AceVenturaPetDetective'', with it's infamous [[UnsettlingGenderReveal "Einhorn is a man!" scene]], was released only a few months before this one, film, and the rest of the decade wasn't much kinder).
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* ValuesResonance: DeliberateValuesDissonance notwithstanding, the movie has a very accepting attitude towards its LGBT characters. Ed and Bunny are eccentric misfits who are nonetheless portrayed with humanity and sympathy by both the narrative and the heteronormative characters. While only slightly less unheard of today, it was hardly common for mainstream comedies in the nineties to be anywhere near this kind to gay or gender-nonconforming character (''Film/AceVenturaPetDetective'', with it's infamous [[UnsettlingGenderReveal "Einhorn is a man!" scene]], had only come out a year prior, and the rest of the decade wasn't much kinder).

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* ValuesResonance: DeliberateValuesDissonance notwithstanding, the movie has a very accepting attitude towards its LGBT characters. Ed and Bunny are eccentric misfits who are nonetheless portrayed with humanity and sympathy by both the narrative and the heteronormative characters. While only slightly less unheard of today, it was hardly common for mainstream comedies in the nineties to be anywhere near this kind to gay or gender-nonconforming character characters (''Film/AceVenturaPetDetective'', with it's infamous [[UnsettlingGenderReveal "Einhorn is a man!" scene]], had was released only come out a year prior, few months before this one, and the rest of the decade wasn't much kinder).
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* GeniusBonus: Bela Lugosi's anti-Karloff rant at one point shows shades of this. In the first few centuries of British royalty, it was considered an honour to be able to smell the King's shit; the groom of the stool was among the select few to have that honour.
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** As WebVideo/RedLetterMedia pointed out, the WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue tells us that Ed had two failed marriages and became an alcoholic. This mirrors what happened to Creator/JohnnyDepp in RealLife.

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** As WebVideo/RedLetterMedia pointed out, out on ''WebVideo/ReView'', the WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue tells us that Ed had two failed marriages and became an alcoholic. This mirrors what happened to Creator/JohnnyDepp in RealLife.
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* ValuesResonance: DeliberateValuesDissonance notwithstanding, the movie has a very accepting attitude towards its LGBT characters. Ed and Bunny are eccentric misfits who are nonetheless portrayed with humanity and sympathy. It's all the more remarkable given the time the movie was made, as it was unfortunately common for comedy movies like Film/AceVentura to derive cheap, mean-spirited laughs from LGBT characters by treating them with contempt.

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* ValuesResonance: DeliberateValuesDissonance notwithstanding, the movie has a very accepting attitude towards its LGBT characters. Ed and Bunny are eccentric misfits who are nonetheless portrayed with humanity and sympathy. It's all sympathy by both the more remarkable given narrative and the time the movie was made, as heteronormative characters. While only slightly less unheard of today, it was unfortunately hardly common for comedy movies like Film/AceVentura mainstream comedies in the nineties to derive cheap, mean-spirited laughs from LGBT characters by treating them be anywhere near this kind to gay or gender-nonconforming character (''Film/AceVenturaPetDetective'', with contempt.it's infamous [[UnsettlingGenderReveal "Einhorn is a man!" scene]], had only come out a year prior, and the rest of the decade wasn't much kinder).
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: While the film plays loosely with history throughout, it's also been described as "the kind of biopic Creator/EdWood would have made for himself." Everything that happens after Ed storms out of the ''Plan 9'' shoot in drag is completely made up: he certainly didn't meet Creator/OrsonWelles and the movie ''definitely'' didn't have such a lavish, heavily publicized premiere. Is the film simply being kind to Ed by giving him a happy ending he could only wish he'd ever get, or, considering that Wood was [[TheAlcoholic an alcoholic]] and immediately goes to a bar, is it [[AllJustADream all just a drunken stupor]]?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: While the film plays loosely with history throughout, it's also been described as "the kind of biopic Creator/EdWood would have made for himself." Everything that happens after Ed storms out of the ''Plan 9'' shoot in drag is completely made up: he certainly didn't meet Creator/OrsonWelles and the movie ''definitely'' didn't have such a lavish, heavily publicized premiere. Is the film simply being kind to Ed by giving him a happy ending he could only wish he'd ever get, it the film supposed to be Ed's memories and he's remembering them in more flattering ways than they happened or, considering that Wood was [[TheAlcoholic an alcoholic]] and immediately goes to a bar, is it [[AllJustADream all just a drunken stupor]]?
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* ValuesResonance: DeliberateValuesDissonance notwithstanding, the movie has a very accepting attitude towards its LGBT characters. Ed and Bunny are eccentric misfits who are nonetheless portrayed with humanity and sympathy. It's all the more remarkable given the time the movie was made, as it was unfortunately common for comedy movies like Film/AceVentura to derive cheap, mean-spirited laughs from LGBT characters and generally treat them with contempt.

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* ValuesResonance: DeliberateValuesDissonance notwithstanding, the movie has a very accepting attitude towards its LGBT characters. Ed and Bunny are eccentric misfits who are nonetheless portrayed with humanity and sympathy. It's all the more remarkable given the time the movie was made, as it was unfortunately common for comedy movies like Film/AceVentura to derive cheap, mean-spirited laughs from LGBT characters and generally treat by treating them with contempt.
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* ValuesResonance: DeliberateValuesDissonance notwithstanding, the movie has a very accepting attitude towards its LGBT characters. Ed and Bunny are eccentric misfits who are nonetheless portrayed with humanity and sympathy. It's all the more remarkable given the time the movie was made, as it was unfortunately common for comedy movies like Film/AceVentura to derive cheap, mean-spirited laughs from LGBT characters and generally treat them with contempt.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue tells us that Ed had two failed marriages and became an alcoholic. This mirrors what happened to Creator/JohnnyDepp in RealLife.

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** Dolores angrily throws things at Ed when she loses a part in ''Film/BrideOfTheMonster''. In 2020, it was revealed that Depp was physically abused by his ex-wife Creator/AmberHeard, who ''threw plant pots at him''.

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* CultClassic: Praised by critics but almost unnoticed by the general public during its release, the movie is understandably popular with Creator/EdWood aficionados and anyone who wants to go into film.

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* CultClassic: Praised by critics but almost unnoticed by the general public during its release, the movie is understandably popular A huge hit with critics, Creator/EdWood aficionados and anyone who wants movie buffs, most of whom have dubbed it one of the best movies about filmmaking, but was a massive {{acclaimed flop}} upon release.
* FairForItsDay: The film has a fair bit of DeliberateValuesDissonance, such as Ed being asked if he's a "fruit" or a "fag" when he mentions his cross-dressing, and Bunny's [[TooMuchInformation openness about his hypothetical sex change]] is {{played for laughs}}. Despite this, LGBTQ characters are otherwise depicted in a largely unassuming light, with both the narrative and heteronormative characters treating them with relative normalcy which was unthinkable in the 1950s and only slightly less so in the 1990s. As mentioned on the trivia page, the popularity of this film elevated the real Ed Wood
to go into film.an LTBGQ icon.



* ValuesResonance: The film is very open-minded and accepting when it comes to its LGBT characters. Ed's crossdressing is never presented something that makes him deserving of scorn.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: While the film plays loosely with history throughout, it's also been described as "the kind of biopic Creator/EdWood would have made for himself." Everything that happens after Ed storms out of the ''Plan 9'' shoot in drag is completely made up: he certainly didn't meet Creator/OrsonWelles and the movie ''definitely'' didn't have such a lavish, heavily publicized premiere. Was this the filmmakers playing with history or the sake of drama, or is it Ed Wood's ego hijacking the story? Considering Wood's own [[TheAlcoholic alcoholism]], the fact that he immediately goes to a bar might even make this [[AllJustADream all just a drunken stupor]].

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: While the film plays loosely with history throughout, it's also been described as "the kind of biopic Creator/EdWood would have made for himself." Everything that happens after Ed storms out of the ''Plan 9'' shoot in drag is completely made up: he certainly didn't meet Creator/OrsonWelles and the movie ''definitely'' didn't have such a lavish, heavily publicized premiere. Was this Is the filmmakers playing with history or the sake of drama, or is it film simply being kind to Ed Wood's ego hijacking the story? Considering Wood's own by giving him a happy ending he could only wish he'd ever get, or, considering that Wood was [[TheAlcoholic alcoholism]], the fact that he an alcoholic]] and immediately goes to a bar might even make this bar, is it [[AllJustADream all just a drunken stupor]].stupor]]?
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* HarsherInHindsight: The WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue tells us that Ed had two failed marriages and became an alcoholic. This mirrors what happened to Creator/JohnnyDepp in RealLife.
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** Martin Landau played Creator/BelaLugosi, who played a popular [[{{Film/Dracula 1931}} fictional vampire]]. A couple of years later, his daughter Creator/JulietLandau would play [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer another popular fictional vampire]].

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** Martin Landau Creator/MartinLandau played Creator/BelaLugosi, who played a popular [[{{Film/Dracula 1931}} fictional vampire]]. A couple of years later, his daughter Creator/JulietLandau would play [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer another popular fictional vampire]].
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: While the film plays loosely with history throughout, it's also been described as "the kind of biopic Ed Wood would have made for himself." Everything that happens after Ed storms out of the ''Plan 9'' shoot in drag is completely made up: he certainly didn't meet Creator/OrsonWelles and the movie ''definitely'' didn't have such a lavish, heavily publicized premiere. Was this the filmmakers playing with history or the sake of drama, or is it Ed Wood's ego hijacking the story? Considering Wood's own [[TheAlcoholic alcoholism]], the fact that he immediately goes to a bar might even make this [[AllJustADream all just a drunken stupor]].
* CultClassic: Praised by critics but almost unnoticed by the general public during its release, the movie is understandably popular with Ed Wood aficionados and anyone who wants to go into film.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: While the film plays loosely with history throughout, it's also been described as "the kind of biopic Ed Wood Creator/EdWood would have made for himself." Everything that happens after Ed storms out of the ''Plan 9'' shoot in drag is completely made up: he certainly didn't meet Creator/OrsonWelles and the movie ''definitely'' didn't have such a lavish, heavily publicized premiere. Was this the filmmakers playing with history or the sake of drama, or is it Ed Wood's ego hijacking the story? Considering Wood's own [[TheAlcoholic alcoholism]], the fact that he immediately goes to a bar might even make this [[AllJustADream all just a drunken stupor]].
* CultClassic: Praised by critics but almost unnoticed by the general public during its release, the movie is understandably popular with Ed Wood Creator/EdWood aficionados and anyone who wants to go into film.



** Martin Landau played Bela Lugosi, who played a popular [[{{Film/Dracula 1931}} fictional vampire]]. A couple of years later, his daughter Creator/JulietLandau would play [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer another popular fictional vampire]].

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** Martin Landau played Bela Lugosi, Creator/BelaLugosi, who played a popular [[{{Film/Dracula 1931}} fictional vampire]]. A couple of years later, his daughter Creator/JulietLandau would play [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer another popular fictional vampire]].



*** And then Johnny Depp would go on to play another [[{{Film/DarkShadows}} famous vampire]] much later (in a movie also directed by Tim Burton).

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*** And then Johnny Depp Creator/JohnnyDepp would go on to play another [[{{Film/DarkShadows}} famous vampire]] much later (in a movie also directed by Tim Burton).Creator/TimBurton).

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