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** Is Dean Wicks really an AxCrazy PsychopathicManChild JerkAss who was way Into the MoralEventHorizon raping Linda and Roxy and trying to kill his own mother and brother or Is his psychotic behavior All a coping mechanism to deal with his DarkAndTroubledPast and ParentalAbandonment by his mother As a kid And All an Implication that he Is not Evil deep down but rather a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds with a FreudianExcuse?
** Is Evie a psycho AlphaBitch or Is she a JerkassWoobie JerkWithAHeartofGold victim of AbusiveParents And PeerPressureMakesYouEvil?
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* FandomRivalry:
** This was inevitable between this show and ''Series/CoronationStreet''. As the two biggest soap operas in the land and among the world in general, the two series often vie for everything from ratings to awards for their respective writing and acting.[[note]] And while both shows [[AmericansHateTingle haven't yet conquered the United States' attention,]] the latter series is at least ''known'' to the country and viewed by a small part of it (i.e., anyone who has access to Creator/{{CBC}}.)[[/note]]
** It also had the misfortune of having this with ''Series/DoctorWho'' of all things, although it had more to do with [[ScrewedByTheNetwork the executives of BBC than anything else.]] TlBack in the mid-80s, then-head of the network, Michael Grade, made no secret that he despised [[SciFiGhetto science fiction television]] and went about screwing with the latter show's slot times, scheduling and the formula itself before he eventually cancelled the series in 1989. The former show comes into the mix because he clearly favored the soap over the anthology series (to the point of calling it "quality television") and it took the rap from their fans for their show's downfall.

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** Whilst Dennis "Denny" Rickman Jr is seen as a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] to a majority of viewers, most would show concern whenever he gets himself into physical danger. This would evidently continue as viewers were also worried by the possibility that he might be killed off in the coming months after some theories were made since Sharon swore on Dennis' life, in an attempt to cover up her affair with Keanu.
*** [[spoiler:This would unfortunately turn out to be true, as Dennis Jr. really ''did'' tragically passed away on February 2020, as a result of the boat crash and Ian Beale locking him up (though he did try to rescue him to.]]

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** Whilst Dennis "Denny" Rickman Jr is seen as a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] to a majority of viewers, most would show concern whenever he gets himself into physical danger. This would evidently continue as viewers were also worried by the possibility that he might be killed off in the coming months after some theories were made since Sharon swore on Dennis' life, in an attempt to cover up her affair with Keanu.
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Keanu. [[spoiler:This would unfortunately turn out to be true, as Dennis Jr. really ''did'' tragically passed pass away on in February 2020, as a result of the Thames party boat crash and Ian Beale locking him up (though he did try to rescue him to.crash.]]


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** Sean O'Connor's time as producer (particularly the year 2017) is also considered this for a variety of reasons, including the controversial recasting of Michelle Fowler, the killing-off of popular characters like Ronnie, Roxy and Steven, the lack of engaging dramatic storylines and the overexposure of certain characters (particularly Mick).


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** Dennis Rickman Sr.'s final words to Sharon as he died were "We did it!", after learning that Sharon was pregnant. Fourteen years later, [[spoiler:their son would tragically lose his life in an accident on the River Thames]].
** Sharon swore on her son's life that she was not having an affair with Keanu Taylor. These words would eventually come back to haunt her, as [[spoiler:Dennis died as a result of the climactic confrontation of the storyline.]]

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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: The problem with the previous incarnations of Ben (particularly from 2006-10) was the poor performance from his actor which made it hard for the audience to take the character very seriously but there was one scene that stood out, particularly the scene where Ben first stood in trial after his attack on Jordan. He managed to pull off a genuinely devastated expression upon finding out he will be sentenced.

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The problem with the previous incarnations of Ben (particularly from 2006-10) was the poor performance from his actor which made it hard for the audience to take the character very seriously but there was one scene that stood out, particularly the scene where Ben first stood in trial after his attack on Jordan. He managed to pull off a genuinely devastated expression upon finding out he will be sentenced.
** Mike Reid, who was best known in the UK as a stand-up comedian, proved surprisingly effective in dramatic material as Frank Butcher.
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*** [[spoiler:This would unfortunately turn out to be true, as Dennis Jr. really ''did'' tragically passed away on February 2020, as a result of the boat crash and Ian Beale locking him up (though he did try to rescue him to.]]
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** DUN DUN... DUN-DUN-DUN DU-DU-DU-DUN [[labelnote:Explanation]]The iconic drum beats that play over the end of every episode. They're one of the most famous and recognizable theme tunes in British TV, and have become synonymous with soapland drama.[[/labelnote]]
*** "Your mother's so fat that when she fell down the stairs, it sounded like ''East Enders'' was starting."[[labelnote:Explanation]]A classic "YourMom" joke inspired by the iconic drum beat.[[/labelnote]]

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** DUN DUN... DUN-DUN-DUN DU-DU-DU-DUN [[labelnote:Explanation]]The iconic drum beats that play over the end of every episode. episode, often compared to [[Music/PhilCollins "In The Air Tonight."]] They're one of the most famous and recognizable theme tunes in British TV, and have become synonymous with soapland drama.[[/labelnote]]
*** "Your mother's mum's so fat that when she fell down the stairs, it sounded like ''East Enders'' ''Eastenders'' was starting."[[labelnote:Explanation]]A classic "YourMom" "classic" YourMom joke inspired by the said iconic drum beat.[[/labelnote]]

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** Bobby was disliked by fans, after it was [[spoiler:revealed that he was Lucy's killer]]. After his release from prison, fans have warmed up to him due to being portrayed as more sympathetic and remorseful for his crimes. Plus, he dropped his [[BrattyHalfPint bratty attitude]] and became caring for those he loved which made fans root for him, even after all he's been through. It probably helps that Dennis Jr has actually taken Bobby's place as the new BrattyHalfPint, whilst Bobby has [[TookALevelInKindness taken a level in kindness]].



** [[BrattyHalfPint Bobby]] [[CreepyChild Beale]]. Before, he was just an average [[NiceGuy nice kid]] who stood in the background and occasionally getting in between conflicts with Ian and/or Jane/Lucy/Denise. After his reveal as Lucy's killer, he's flanderized into a complete spoiled brat who's inconsiderate to everyone around him and becomes violent towards some people for extremely [[DisproportionateRetribution minor reasons]]. This [[TookALevelInJerkass new found behaviour]] made the majority of viewers riot for his blood, especially since he's been a consistent KarmaHoudini for '''''two years''''' after his murder.
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*** "Your mother's so fat that when she fell down the stairs, it sounded like ''East Enders'' was starting."[[labelnote:Explanation]]A classic "YourMom" joke inspired by the iconic drum beat.[[/labelnote]]
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* EarWorm: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZYa_KfLTtM The title theme]], if this page's intro didn't already clue you in.
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** Linda has gone through quite a lot when compared to the other Carters. This includes [[spoiler:getting raped by Dean Wicks (as well as receiving threats from him), dealing with an unexpected pregnancy, getting her heart broken by Mick several times, was diagnosed with cervical cancer and was wrongly accused of shooting Stuart Highway]].

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** Linda has gone through quite a lot when compared to the other Carters. This includes [[spoiler:getting raped by Dean Wicks (as well as receiving threats from him), dealing with an unexpected pregnancy, getting her heart broken by Mick several times, was diagnosed with cervical cancer and was wrongly accused of shooting Stuart Highway]].Highway]].
** Callum. Unlike most of the residents in Walford, Callum is a genuinely NiceGuy (one of the nicest people in the Square) but he's had a crappy childhood with abusive parents and the trauma he's suffered during his time in the army has caused him to be a bit more introverted and shy around people, meaning his kindness can also be taken advantage of by people. He has also struggled to deal with his sexuality thanks to growing up with his homophobic father, similarly to his eventual fiancé Ben Mitchell.

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** Later [[SubvertedTrope subverted]], as many consider him to be the best version of Ben due to his more menacing presence, interesting character depth and his later storylines [[spoiler:which include Ben's on-screen romance with Callum]].
** Hell, to an extent, Ben himself is considered this to Phil. It's clear both Ben and Jay were supposed to be the next generation Mitchell Brothers, dominating the square but a lot of fans don't see the same level of threat that they would with his father.

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** Later [[SubvertedTrope subverted]], as many consider him to be the best version of Ben due to his more menacing presence, interesting character depth and his later storylines [[spoiler:which include Ben's on-screen romance with Callum]].
** Hell, to an extent, Ben himself is considered this to Phil. It's clear both Ben
Callum (helped by their great acting and Jay were supposed to be the next generation Mitchell Brothers, dominating the square but a lot of fans don't see the same level of threat that they would with his father.chemistry)]].
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** Later [[SubvertedTrope subverted]], as many consider him to be the best version of Ben due to his more menacing presence, interesting character depth and his later storylines [[spoiler:which include Ben's on-screen romance with Callum]].
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** Gray Atkins has a lot of fangirls despite regularly subjecting his wife Chantelle to domestic violence.
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*** [[AesopAmnesia This habit unfortunately continues for Bex]] when she tries to pursue Kush. Whilst she was going through a lot of stress, there was no reason for her to go after Kushx who ''immediately'' rejects her. It's clear we were meant to feel sorry for Bex but considering how she's made the same mistake last time and not learnt from it (as well as her incredibly clingy attitude), it's downright impossible to feel any sympathy for her. To add insult to injury, [[spoiler: she got away scot-free]] whilst it was '''''Kush''''' who gets the blame for Bex trying pursue him.

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*** [[AesopAmnesia This habit unfortunately continues for Bex]] when she tries to pursue Kush. Whilst she was going through a lot of stress, there was no reason for her to go after Kushx Kush, who ''immediately'' rejects her. It's clear we were meant to feel sorry for Bex but considering how she's made the same mistake last time and not learnt from it (as well as her incredibly clingy attitude), it's downright impossible to feel any sympathy for her. To add insult to injury, [[spoiler: she got away scot-free]] whilst it was '''''Kush''''' who gets the blame for Bex trying pursue him.
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** Ben may be a selfish and vengeful character who tends to act unpleasant towards everyone but a lot of his actions were driven by his child-abuse from Stella, a neglectful father who sees him as TheUnfavourite, being bullied as a child, coming to terms with his sexuality, losing Paul etc. His ongoing bad luck has permanently skewed his psyche and sense of morality.


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*** [[AesopAmnesia This habit unfortunately continues for Bex]] when she tries to pursue Kush. Whilst she was going through a lot of stress, there was no reason for her to go after Kushx who ''immediately'' rejects her. It's clear we were meant to feel sorry for Bex but considering how she's made the same mistake last time and not learnt from it (as well as her incredibly clingy attitude), it's downright impossible to feel any sympathy for her. To add insult to injury, [[spoiler: she got away scot-free]] whilst it was '''''Kush''''' who gets the blame for Bex trying pursue him.
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* InternetBackdraft: Many fans were bemoaning the ''Eastenders: E20'' {{spinoff}} and complained that it was turning ''Eastenders'' into ''Series/{{Hollyoaks}}''[=/=]''Series/{{Skins}}''. However, now that the first episode has come out, some are now saying it's not so bad.
** Killing off Danielle after 8 months of buildup is widely considered the stupidest thing they ever did, to the point many people just stopped watching.
** When Steven Beale returned in 2016, the writers forgot he was supposed to be gay, sparking many complaints.
** When the 2016 Christmas episodes lacked any of the tragedy usually expected in Christmas episodes. Viewers had to wait until New Year's Day for tragedy.
** Supposed lesbian Tina sleeping with Woody sparked complaints, even though she slept with other men before and is clearly a bisexual in denial.
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** Surprisingly, Bobby Beale got this from some fans when he returned from prison. Whilst there was no excuse for the terrible crimes he committed, he seems genuinely remorseful and disturbed by what he did and when he was torn to pieces by the residents of Walford, fans actually felt like they went too far with how they treated him.
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** "[[TemptingFate This'll be the best Christmas Walford's ever had!]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]The show's Christmas and New Year storylines are infamously and consistently depressing.[[/labelnote]]

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** "[[TemptingFate This'll "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E8TheImpossiblePlanet This is gonna be the best Christmas Walford's ever had!]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]The show's Christmas and New Year storylines are infamously and consistently depressing.depressing. ''Series/DoctorWho'' lampshaded this by having the Doctor in "The Impossible Planet" say that "This is gonna be the best Christmas Walford's ever had" is a great example of TemptingFate.[[/labelnote]]
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** ** Ben Mitchell, played by Max Bowden. On one hand, he gets a ton of flak for his newfound unpleasant attitude but on the other hand, this incarnation of Ben does have fans too, who like the progression of the character and some of Bowden's performance were also praised.

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** ** Ben Mitchell, played by Max Bowden. On one hand, he gets a ton of flak for his newfound unpleasant attitude but on the other hand, this incarnation of Ben does have fans too, who like the progression of the character and some of Bowden's performance were also praised.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Fans are split on whether Whitney is still a good character or one that has overstayed her welcome. This started from the Mick/Whitney affair storyline.

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** Ben Mitchell. Though he was originally RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, he squarely lands himself back in this heap thanks to his more unpleasant personality-change as well as the newcomer Max Bowden's laughable acting (at least when he's trying to be threatening).
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* ToughActToFollow: Ben Mitchell's current actor Max Bowden is widely considered this to Harry Reid. This reaction comes more from the execution of the characters and Kate Oates' decision to change Ben's personality entirely rather than the actor himself.
** Hell, to an extent, Ben himself is considered this to Phil. It's clear both Ben and Jay were supposed to be the next generation Mitchell Brothers, dominating the square but a lot of fans don't see the same level of threat that they would with his father.
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** Ben Mitchell. Though he was originally RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, he squarely lands himself back in this heap thanks to his more unpleasant personality-change as well as the newcomer Max Bowden's laughably horrible acting.

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** Ben was originally hated by fans [[spoiler: following the murder of Heather Trott]] as well as the controversy following behind his fourth actor, Joshua Pascoe. It was thanks to Harry Reid's take on Ben where some detractors warmed up to the character who is portrayed more sympathetically. It got to the point where most fans launched a petition to prevent the character from being axed when it was announced that he was leaving in early 2018.


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** Ben Mitchell. Though he was originally RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, he squarely lands himself back in this heap thanks to his more unpleasant personality-change as well as the newcomer Max Bowden's laughably horrible acting.
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** Is Evie a psycho AlphaBitch or Is she a JerkassWoobie JerkWithAHeartofGold victim of AbusiveParents And PeerPressureMakesYouEvil?
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** Is Dean Wicks really an AxCrazy PsychopathicManChild JerkAss who was way Into the MoralEventHorizon raping Linda and Roxy and trying to kill his own mother and brother or Is his psychotic behavior All a coping mechanism to deal with his DarkAndTroubledPast and ParentalAbandonment by his mother As a kid And All an Implication that he Is not Evil deep down but rather a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds with a tragic FreudianExcuse?

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** Is Dean Wicks really an AxCrazy PsychopathicManChild JerkAss who was way Into the MoralEventHorizon raping Linda and Roxy and trying to kill his own mother and brother or Is his psychotic behavior All a coping mechanism to deal with his DarkAndTroubledPast and ParentalAbandonment by his mother As a kid And All an Implication that he Is not Evil deep down but rather a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds with a tragic FreudianExcuse?
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** Is Dean Wicks really an AxCrazy PsychopathicManChild JerkAss who was way Into the MoralEventHorizon raping Linda and Roxy and trying to kill his own mother and brother or Is his psychotic behavior All a coping mechanism to deal with his DarkAndTroubledPast and ParentalAbandonment by his mother As a kid And All an Implication that he Is not Evil deep down but rather a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds with a FreudianExcuse?

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** Is Dean Wicks really an AxCrazy PsychopathicManChild JerkAss who was way Into the MoralEventHorizon raping Linda and Roxy and trying to kill his own mother and brother or Is his psychotic behavior All a coping mechanism to deal with his DarkAndTroubledPast and ParentalAbandonment by his mother As a kid And All an Implication that he Is not Evil deep down but rather a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds with a tragic FreudianExcuse?
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** Is Dean Wicks really an AxCrazy PsychopathicManChild JerkAss who was way Into the MoralEventHorizon raping Linda and Roxy and trying to kill his own mother and brother or Is his psychotic behavior All a coping mechanism to deal with his DarkAndTroubledPast and ParentalAbandonment by his mother As a kid And All an Implication that he Is not Evil deep down but rather a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds with a FreudienExcuse?

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** Is Dean Wicks really an AxCrazy PsychopathicManChild JerkAss who was way Into the MoralEventHorizon raping Linda and Roxy and trying to kill his own mother and brother or Is his psychotic behavior All a coping mechanism to deal with his DarkAndTroubledPast and ParentalAbandonment by his mother As a kid And All an Implication that he Is not Evil deep down but rather a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds with a FreudienExcuse? FreudianExcuse?
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** Is Dean Wicks really an AxCrazy PsychopathicManChild JerkAss who was way Into the MoralEventHorizon raping Linda and Roxy and trying to kill his own mother and brother or Is his psychotic behavior All a coping mechanism to deal with his DarkAndTroubledPast and ParentalAbandonment by his mother As a kid And All an Implication that he Is not Evil deep down but rather a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds?

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** Is Dean Wicks really an AxCrazy PsychopathicManChild JerkAss who was way Into the MoralEventHorizon raping Linda and Roxy and trying to kill his own mother and brother or Is his psychotic behavior All a coping mechanism to deal with his DarkAndTroubledPast and ParentalAbandonment by his mother As a kid And All an Implication that he Is not Evil deep down but rather a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds? WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds with a FreudienExcuse?
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** Is Dean Wicks really an AxCrazy PsychopathicManChild JerkAss who was way Into the MoralEventHorizon raping Linda and Roxy and trying to kill his own mother and brother or Is his psychotic behavior All a coping mechanism to deal with his DarkAndTroubledPast and ParentalAbandonment by his mother As a kid And he is Actually not evil deep down but rather a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds?

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** Is Dean Wicks really an AxCrazy PsychopathicManChild JerkAss who was way Into the MoralEventHorizon raping Linda and Roxy and trying to kill his own mother and brother or Is his psychotic behavior All a coping mechanism to deal with his DarkAndTroubledPast and ParentalAbandonment by his mother As a kid And All an Implication that he is Actually Is not evil Evil deep down but rather a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds?

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