History YMMV / DumbledoresArmyAndTheYearOfDarkness

%% * HoYay: The author was astounded at the number of people asking whether Michael Corner and Terry Boot were together.

* BetterThanCanon: Author Andythanfiction believed this to be true, as did many of his fans (although this has always been a controversial opinion, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and that's all we're going to say on the matter.]])

* CondemnedByHistory: For a good few years, the DAYD’verse was ''immensely'' popular in the Harry Potter fandom, spawning a whole micro-fandom of its own and dozens of imitators. Since then, though, it’s been largely [[OvershadowedByControversy overshadowed by its controversial author]], and ValuesDissonance regarding matters like Lavender’s [[spoiler:rape]] have caused many to remove it from their favorite fic lists. Now it’s hard to find any older fans who like it un-ironically, and newer fans either haven’t heard of it or are so turned off by the aforementioned ValuesDissonance that they aren’t interested.

* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The fic ''wants'' to be a "serious" take on the ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' series. Unfortunately, the author has mistaken gratuitous gore and bloodshed for seriousness. People die ''en masse'' even when canon insists they lived, morally-ambiguous characters are transformed into pure evil, ''nobody'' gets out without severe injury (physical or mental), and if it looks like something good is about to happen, the heroes will destroy it with their own stupidity or selfishness--and yet the narrative expects us to sympathize with them, especially in the case of Neville Longbottom. Once hailed as a work of art, it's now seen as a mass of potential buried in overdone "drama".

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* DeaderThanDisco: For a good few years, the DAYD’verse was ''immensely'' popular in the Harry Potter fandom, spawning a whole micro-fandom of its own and dozens of imitators. Since then, though, it’s been largely [[OvershadowedByControversy overshadowed by its controversial author]], and ValuesDissonance regarding matters like Lavender’s [[spoiler: rape]] have caused many to remove it from their favorite fic lists. Now it’s hard to find any older fans who like it un-ironically, and newer fans either haven’t heard of it or are so turned off by the aforementioned ValuesDissonance that they aren’t interested.

* BetterThanCanon: Author Andythanfiction believed this to be true, as did many of his fans (although this has always been a controversial opinion, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and that's all we're going to say on the matter.]])

* BetterThanCanon: Author Andythanfiction believed this to be true, as did many of his fans (although this has always been a controversial opinion, [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and that's all we're going to say on the matter.]])

* BetterThanCanon: Author Andythanfiction believed this to be true, as did many of his fans (although this has always been a controversial opinion, [[RuleofCautiousEditingJudgment and that's all we're going to say on the matter.]])

* BetterThanCanon: Author Andythanfiction believed this to be true, as did many of his fans (although this has always been a controversial opinion, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement and that's all we're going to say on the matter.]]) events of ''Sluagh'' don't match up with the epilogue shown in ''DAYD'' (see OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow below), nor do they align with the epilogue of the Harry Potter series itself. In general, many elements from the [=DAYDverse=] contradict elements of the Harry Potter canon, usually in terms of characterization—the DarkerAndEdgier nature of DAYD meant that already evil characters had their awfulness toned up a lot, morally gray characters became entirely evil, and even "good" characters had moments of darkness that seemed terribly OOC to many Harry Potter fans.

* BetterThanCanon: Author Andythanfiction believed this to be true, as did many of his fans.
* CanonDefilement: The events of ''Sluagh'' don't match up with the epilogue shown in ''DAYD'' (see OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow below), nor do they align with the epilogue of the Harry Potter series itself. In general, many elements from the [=DAYDverse=] contradict elements of the Harry Potter canon, usually in terms of characterization—the DarkerAndEdgier nature of DAYD meant that already evil characters had their awfulness toned up a lot, morally gray characters became entirely evil, and even "good" characters had moments of darkness that seemed terribly OOC to many Harry Potter fans.

** Then again, it's questionable how unintentional it was; there are several paragraphs in DAYD in which Neville notes that Harry, Ron and Hermione are healthier, less traumatized, and generally happier than everyone in Dumbledore's Army ever was. This led to some accusations of character-bashing, since the Golden Trio's struggles were always portrayed as less severe and troubling than those of Neville and his friends. And that is without taking into account that most of the victory is owned to the Golden Trio actions to destroy the Horcruxes and not the D.A.

* CanonDefilement: The events of ''Sluagh'' don't match up with the epilogue shown in ''DAYD'' (see OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow below), nor do they align with the epilogue of the Harry Potter series itself. In general, many elements from the DAYD'verse contradict elements of the Harry Potter canon, usually in terms of characterization—the DarkerAndEdgier nature of DAYD meant that already evil characters had their awfulness toned up a lot, morally gray characters became entirely evil, and even "good" characters had moments of darkness that seemed terribly OOC to many Harry Potter fans.

* OvershadowedByControversy: DAYD's author Andrew Blake/Andythanfiction/Victoria Bitter has a long and storied history of sockpuppeting, abusive behavior, and sexism. He's received notoriety in the past for starting cults, faking his own death, and stealing money from other fans, as well as horribly mishandling serious political and social issues in his work. While his attitudes about rape, fangirls, and the Troubles were considered un-problematic when DAYD was first written (likely in no small part because many of his readers had no idea what the Troubles were), fans are less likely to excuse them today, and this ValuesDissonance combined with the author's troubling backstory have caused the DAYD'verse to fade into obscurity. Today, it's rarely mentioned in the Harry Potter fandom, and if anyone's talking about it, they're probably either MSTing it or warning others away from it.

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Some reviewers on Tumblr have noted that the DarkerAndEdgier ElsewhereFic nature of ''Dumbledore's Army'' has unintentionally made Harry, Ron, and Hermione this. If you read ''The Deathly Hallows'' while believing that the events of DAYD are happening in the background, every happy moment the Golden Trio has makes them look like callous jerks because so many people are dying horribly in the background. Most notable is the Ron/Hermione kiss. When you watch or read it without DAYD, it's a sweet and heartwarming moment that had been coming for a long time. But when it's viewed by someone who assumes DAYD is happening at the same time, Ron and Hermione look like [[{{Jerkass}}incredibly heartless jerks]] for deciding to [[CannotSpitItOut spit it out]] while people are being subjected to unholy amounts of gore, violence, and BodyHorror just behind them.

* ValuesDissonance: When DAYD was first written, Andrew Blake's views on fangirls (whom he called annoying, stupid, and unable to appreciate true art) and his questionable handling of [[spoiler: Lavender's rape]] weren't exactly ''popular,'' but they weren't considered incredibly problematic, either. Nowadays, his diatribes about female fans come off as sexist, pretentious, and rude, and his handling of rape scenes has been heavily criticized (see CriticalResearchFailure.)

* ValuesDissonance:
** When DAYD was first written, Andrew Blake's views on fangirls (whom he called annoying, stupid, and unable to appreciate true art) and his questionable handling of [[spoiler: Lavender's rape]] weren't exactly ''popular,'' but they weren't considered incredibly problematic, either. Nowadays, his diatribes about female fans come off as sexist, pretentious, and rude, and his handling of rape scenes has been heavily criticized (see CriticalResearchFailure.)

** Then again, it's questionable how unintentional it was; there are several paragraphs in DAYD in which Neville notes that Harry, Ron and Hermione are healthier, less traumatized, and generally happier than everyone in Dumbledore's Army ever was. This led to some accusations of character-bashing, since the Golden Trio's struggles were always portrayed as less severe and troubling than those of Neville and his friends.

** Severus Snape, who in the books was a very, very effective ReverseMole who through all his {{sadist teach|er}}ing legitimately tried to protect as many students as possible from the Death Eaters, is here shown to thoroughly enjoy his position as Death Eater-appointed Headmaster of Hogwarts; he attempts to assassinate Neville, hires the former [[TheDragon Dragon]] to [[PredecessorVillain Grindelwald]] as school disciplinarian, and when a Slytherin student defects to the good guys it's strongly implied he has the boy's entire family killed. He still turns out to be a mole here, but this is simply treated as the final insult; that someone so horrible could still be remembered as a hero simply for nominally siding against someone even worse. [[http://daydverse.livejournal.com/107539.html This essay]] by the author interpreting him as an unrepentant sociopath looking for an excuse to murder and torture students. Even considering that he's a rather unpleasant SadistTeacher in the books, the logic taken to reach this conclusion is... somewhat debatable given the textual evidence. Especially since WordOfGod from Rowling indicates that Snape often shielded students from more severe punishment at the hands of the Carrows.

* VakuesDissonance:

* CanonDefilement: This is '''never''' going to match up with the Epilogue and is becoming another case of "EWE" (Epilogue? What Epilogue?)

*** That said, this portrayal of Snape has become far more popular in recent years. See VindicatedByHistory below

* VindicatedByHistory: This book's portrayal of Snape was initially considered to be a blatant case of {{Flanderization}}; in the years since then, there have been a growing number of readers ([[WebVideo/TheDomReviews Dominic Noble]] being a [[https://youtu.be/M3iJt7oMCoA?t=710 noteworthy example.]]) who see Snape as an irredeemably abusive and sadistic incel who tormented children and was willing to subject a man to a FateWorseThanDeath because his childhood crush never chose him, with JKR being criticised for trying to whitewash Snape's abuses and treating his stalker like behaviour as "love". So for those readers, this book's portrayal comes across as less "RonTheDeathEater" and more "What would happen if Snape's pattern of abuse was followed to it's logical conclusion and not swept under the rug last minute for the sake of a plot twist?"

* VindicatedByHistory: This books portrayal of Snape was initially considered to be a blatant case of {{Flanderization}}, in the years since then, there has been a growing number of readers ([[WebVideo/TheDomReviews Dominic Noble]] being a [[https://youtu.be/M3iJt7oMCoA?t=710 noteworthy example.]]) who see Snape as an iredeemably abusive and sadistic incel who tormented children and was willing to subject a man to a FateWorseThanDeath because his childhood crush never chose him, with JKR being criticised for trying to whitewash Snape's abuses and treating his stalker like behaviour as "love". So for those readers, this book's portrayal comes across as less "RonTheDeathEater" and more "What would happen if Snape's pattern of abuse was followed to it's logical conclusion and not swept under the rug last minute for the sake of a plot twist?"

*** That said, this portrayal of Snape has become far more popular in recent years. See VindicatedByHistory below

* VindicatedByHistory: This books portrayal of Snape was initially considered to be a blatant case of {{Flanderization}}, in the years since then, there has been a growing number of readers ([[WebVideo/TheDomReviews Dominic Noble]] being a [[https://youtu.be/M3iJt7oMCoA?t=710 noteworthy example.]]) who see Snape as an iredeemably abusive and sadistic incel who tormented children and was willing to subject a man to a FateWorseThanDeath because his childhood crush never chose him, with JKR being criticised for trying to whitewash Snape's abuses and treating his stalker like behaviour as "love". So for those readers, this book's portrayal comes across as less "RonTheDeathEater" and more "What would happen if Snape's pattern of abuse was followed to it's logical conclusion and not swept under the rug last minute for the sake of a plot twist?"

* VindicatedByHistory: This books portrayal of Snape was initially considered to be a blatant case of {{Flanderization}}, in the years since then, there has been a growing number of readers who see Snape as an iredeemably abusive and sadistic incel who tormented children and was willing to subject a man to a FateWorseThanDeath because his childhood crush never chose him. [[WebVideo/TheDomReviews Dominic Noble]] being a [[https://youtu.be/M3iJt7oMCoA?t=710 noteworthy example.]] With JKR being criticised for trying to whitewash Snape's abuses and treating his stalker like behaviour as "love". So for those readers, this books portrayal comes across as less "RonTheDeathEater" and more "Completely spot on."

* VindicatedByHistory: This books portrayal of Snape was initially considered to be a blatant case of {{Flanderization}}, in the years since then, there has been a growing number of readers who see Snape as an iredeemably abusive and sadistic incel who tormented children because his childhood crush never choose him. [[WebVideo/TheDomReviews Dominic Noble]] being a [[https://youtu.be/M3iJt7oMCoA?t=710 noteworthy example.]] With JKR being criticised for trying to whitewash Snape's abuses and treating his stalker like behaviour as "love". So for those readers, this books portrayal comes across as less "RonTheDeathEater" and more "Completely spot on."

* VindicatedByHistory: This books portrayal of Snape was initially considered to be a blatant case of {{Flanderization}}, in the years since then, there has been a growing number of readers who see Snape as an iredeemably abusive and sadistic incel who tormented children because his childhood crush never choose him. [[WebVideo/TheDomReviews Dominic Noble]] being a [[{{https://youtu.be/M3iJt7oMCoA?t=710}} noteworthy example.]] With JKR being criticised for trying to whitewash Snape's abuses and treating his stalker like behaviour as "love". So for those readers, this books portrayal comes across as less "RonTheDeathEater" and more "Completely spot on."

* HypeBacklash:
** Criticisms of the story include the sexism[[note]]particularly astonishing considering that Andrew Blake is female-to-male transgender, though it can't be put past him for [[FemaleMisogynist this to be part of the reason he transitioned in the first place]][[/note]], Marty Stu-ing Neville, other people acting OutOfCharacter, the DarkerAndEdgier content being gratuitous, characters carrying the IdiotBall, and flagrant violations of canon. And the author getting caught faking being ill so readers would send him money ''really'' didn't help.
** Regarding Andrew Blake, people also haven't missed the fact that he seems to change personas and communities constantly - after DAYD's HypeBacklash, he pretty much instantly jumped to the ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' fandom, and he only got involved with ''Literature/HarryPotter'' fandom after he was caught scamming people in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' fandom (under numerous names, most notably Victoria Bitter). [[http://kumquatwriter.wordpress.com/2011/11/26/a-letter-to-the-daydians-my-life-with-andrew-blake-laid-bare/ Then there's this...]]