History YMMV / DragonBallMultiverse

17th Sep '16 11:24:54 PM Overlord347
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* NightmareFuel:
** [[http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-342.html Pages 342 through 351]].
** U13 Kakarotto...[[http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/pages/final/0610.png just see this page]] and Chapter 27... Made even more horrifying by the single fact that, had the Goku we know and love not hit his head as a child when his ship landed on earth, [[FridgeHorror that's what Goku would be today...]] Oh, it gets ''worse''. Turns out Kakarotto and Krillin were ''good friends'', and for one panel, we see Kakarotto being as innocent as his U18 counterpart.
14th Sep '16 4:42:39 AM Ramona122003
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* HarsherInHindsight: In Universes 1 and 10, the Supreme Kais decided to forsake their oath of non-intervention, killing Broly, Frieza and his family, and Babidi before they could become threats, all in the name of the 'greater good'. ''Super'' introduces Zamasu, a Supreme Kai-in-training who adopts a similar philosophy...but takes it '''much''' further, [[spoiler:developing into a KnightTemplar, OmnicidalManiac who wants to kill ''all'' mortals since he believes they'll never be anything more than violent savages.]] For bonus points, Zamasu ''also'' comes from Universe 10, just Toriyama's version of it.



*** Future Trunks in ''Multiverse'' is very powerful, but he never achieved Super Saiyan 2. Instead, he mastered his Ultra Super Saiyan form to be used in small bursts, given him the power of a Super Saiyan 2 without losing speed. [[spoiler: In ''Super'', Trunks can become a Super Saiyan 2 and is as powerful as Super Saiyan 3 Goku (at least according to the ''Super'' manga), not to mention the previous bullet point about him single-handedly defeating Babidi and Dabura]].
*** While sparring with Vegeta, Future Trunks uses his Ultra Super Saiyan form after Vegeta reveals his Super Saiyan Blue form. Vegeta gets upset at Trunks for using that slow, obsolete form, and charges him, only for Trunks to suddenly go back to [[spoiler: Super Saiyan 2]] and attack. In this case, Trunks only used Ultra Super Saiyan to catch Vegeta off-guard.
* HarsherInHindsight: In Universes 1 and 10, the Kaioshin decided to forsake their oath of non-intervention, killing Brolly, Frieza and his family, and Babidi before they could become threats, all in the name of the Greater Good. ''Super'' introduces Zamasu, a Kaioshin-in-training who adopts a similar attitude...but takes it '''much''' further, [[spoiler:developing into a KnightTemplar OmnicidalManiac who wants to kill off ''all'' mortals since he believes they'll never be anything more than violent savages.]] For bonus points, Zamasu ''also'' comes from Universe 10, just the canon version of it.

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*** Future Trunks in ''Multiverse'' is very powerful, but he never achieved Super Saiyan 2. Instead, he mastered his Ultra Super Saiyan form to be used in small bursts, given him the power of a Super Saiyan 2 without losing speed. [[spoiler: In ''Super'', Trunks can become a Super Saiyan 2 and is at least as powerful strong as Super Saiyan 3 2 Goku (at least according and Vegeta from the Buu Saga since he was able to deal with Dabura by himself. In the ''Super'' manga), not to mention the previous bullet point about him single-handedly defeating Babidi and Dabura]].
manga, Trunks is an even matched against Super Saiyan 3 Goku]].
*** While sparring with Vegeta, Future Trunks uses his Ultra Super Saiyan form after Vegeta reveals his Super Saiyan Blue God Super Saiyan form. Vegeta gets upset at Trunks for using that slow, obsolete form, and charges him, only for Trunks to suddenly go back to [[spoiler: Super Saiyan 2]] and attack. In this case, Trunks only used Ultra Super Saiyan to catch Vegeta off-guard.
* HarsherInHindsight: *** In Universes 1 and 10, the Kaioshin decided Kais take direct action in stopping any threats to forsake their oath of non-intervention, the lower realm; such as killing Brolly, Frieza and his the original Super Saiyan, Broly when he was a baby, Frieza's entire family, and Babidi killing Bibidi before they he could become threats, all in create Buu. In ''Super'', the name of Kais can only watched and guide mortals, not directly interfere unless the Greater Good. ''Super'' introduces universe is in danger. The only deity allowed to interact and harm mortals are the Gods of Destruction. There is also Zamasu, a Kaioshin-in-training who adopts a similar attitude...but takes it '''much''' further, [[spoiler:developing into a KnightTemplar OmnicidalManiac the Apprentice Supreme Kai of U10, who wants to kill off ''all'' wipe out all mortals since he believes they'll never be anything more than violent savages.]] For bonus points, Zamasu ''also'' comes from Universe 10, just because they repeat the canon same mistake of flourishing and war, making him an [[KnightTemplar extreme]] version of it.the Kais who wiped out anyone they deemed as a future threat. Zamasu even inhabitants the same number universe (U10) as one of the Kai dominated universes.
14th Sep '16 2:14:01 AM LinTaylor
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*** Future Trunks in ''Multiverse'' is very powerful, but he never achieved Super Saiyan 2. Instead, he mastered his Ultra Super Saiyan form to be used in small bursts, given him the power of a Super Saiyan 2 without losing speed. [[spoiler: In ''Super'', Trunks can become a Super Saiyan 2 with ease and is at least as strong as Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Vegeta from the Buu Saga since he was able to deal with Dabura by himself]].
*** While sparring with Vegeta, Future Trunks uses his Ultra Super Saiyan form after Vegeta reveals his Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan form. Vegeta gets upset at Trunks for using that slow, obsolete form, and charges him, only for Trunks to suddenly go back to [[spoiler: Super Saiyan 2]] and attack. In this case, Trunks only used Ultra Super Saiyan to catch Vegeta off-guard.
*** In Universes 1 and 10, the Kais take direct action in stopping any threats to the lower realm; such as killing the original Super Saiyan, Broly when he was a baby, Frieza's entire family, and killing Bibidi before he could create Buu. In ''Super'', the Kais can only watched and guide mortals, not directly interfere unless the universe is in danger. The only deity allowed to interact and harm mortals are the Gods of Destruction. There is also Zamasu, the Apprentice Supreme Kai of U10, who wants to wipe out all mortals because they repeat the same mistake of flourishing and war, making him an [[KnightTemplar extreme]] version of the Kais who wiped out anyone they deemed as a future threat. Zamasu even inhabitants the same number universe (U10) as one of the Kai dominated universes.

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*** Future Trunks in ''Multiverse'' is very powerful, but he never achieved Super Saiyan 2. Instead, he mastered his Ultra Super Saiyan form to be used in small bursts, given him the power of a Super Saiyan 2 without losing speed. [[spoiler: In ''Super'', Trunks can become a Super Saiyan 2 with ease and is at least as strong powerful as Super Saiyan 2 3 Goku (at least according to the ''Super'' manga), not to mention the previous bullet point about him single-handedly defeating Babidi and Vegeta from the Buu Saga since he was able to deal with Dabura by himself]].
Dabura]].
*** While sparring with Vegeta, Future Trunks uses his Ultra Super Saiyan form after Vegeta reveals his Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Blue form. Vegeta gets upset at Trunks for using that slow, obsolete form, and charges him, only for Trunks to suddenly go back to [[spoiler: Super Saiyan 2]] and attack. In this case, Trunks only used Ultra Super Saiyan to catch Vegeta off-guard.
*** * HarsherInHindsight: In Universes 1 and 10, the Kais take direct action in stopping any threats Kaioshin decided to the lower realm; such as forsake their oath of non-intervention, killing the original Super Saiyan, Broly when he was a baby, Frieza's entire Brolly, Frieza and his family, and killing Bibidi Babidi before he they could create Buu. In ''Super'', become threats, all in the Kais can only watched and guide mortals, not directly interfere unless name of the universe is in danger. The only deity allowed to interact and harm mortals are the Gods of Destruction. There is also Greater Good. ''Super'' introduces Zamasu, the Apprentice Supreme Kai of U10, a Kaioshin-in-training who adopts a similar attitude...but takes it '''much''' further, [[spoiler:developing into a KnightTemplar OmnicidalManiac who wants to wipe out all kill off ''all'' mortals because they repeat since he believes they'll never be anything more than violent savages.]] For bonus points, Zamasu ''also'' comes from Universe 10, just the same mistake of flourishing and war, making him an [[KnightTemplar extreme]] canon version of the Kais who wiped out anyone they deemed as a future threat. Zamasu even inhabitants the same number universe (U10) as one of the Kai dominated universes.it.
11th Sep '16 5:55:11 PM Ramona122003
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* TakeAThirdOption: Never considered in the U1 Special, when in an attempt to keep the galactic peace, the five Supreme Kais killed Freeza and Cooler when they were children and Broly as an infant, instead of adopting them and teaching them how to be good
11th Sep '16 5:19:33 PM Frindle
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* TakeAThirdOption: Never considered in the U1 Special, when in an attempt to keep the galactic peace, the five Supreme Kais killed Freeza and Cooler when they were children and Broly as an infant, instead of adopting them and teaching them how to be good
8th Sep '16 3:38:37 AM Ramona122003
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* BetterThanCanon: ''Multiverse'' was made specifically to be a better sequel to ''DragonBallZ'' than ''Anime/DragonBallGT'', and going by the fan reception, it succeeded in its goal. Some also consider it to be better than ''Anime/DragonBallSuper''.

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* BetterThanCanon: ''Multiverse'' was made specifically to be a better sequel to ''DragonBallZ'' than ''Anime/DragonBallGT'', and going by the fan reception, it succeeded in its goal. Some also consider it to be better than ''Anime/DragonBallSuper''.''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' to the point of forming a FandomRivalry.



* FandomRivalry: The more vocal parts of the ''Multiverse'' fandom have an intense rivalry with ''Anime/DragonBallSuper''. It is so bad that going into the comment section and saying that you like ''Super'' in any way can get you mob by fans claiming that you have poor taste and that ''Super'' stole ''Multiverse's'' ideas. It's to the point that saying you like ''GT'' more than ''Super'' will get you a less violent response.



** During the tournament, Goku is stun when he feels Bra's power as a Super Saiyan, proclaiming her stronger than Vegeta and him. With ''Battle of Gods'', ''Resurrection 'F''', and ''Dragon Ball Super'', this line comes out as unintentionally funny since Goku and Vegeta's base forms are stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks.

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** During the tournament, Goku is stun when he feels Bra's power as a Super Saiyan, proclaiming her stronger than Vegeta and him. With ''Battle of Gods'', ''Resurrection 'F''', and ''Dragon Ball Super'', this line comes out off as unintentionally funny since Goku and Vegeta's base forms are stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks.



* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Bojack snapping U16 Pan's neck. Cell's beatdown on him was ''very'' satisfying.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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[[spoiler:Bojack snapping U16 Pan's neck. Cell's beatdown on him was ''very'' satisfying.]]
7th Sep '16 6:44:09 PM Ramona122003
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* DesignatedHero: U16 Bra is infuriatingly arrogant, never passes up an opportunity to mock other fighters for being weak, is a complete {{hypocrite}} (she calls anyone who uses magic/technology to fight a coward and a cheater, but has no problem eating some instant-healing sensu beans when a fight doesn't go her way or using putty clone afterimages to shackle her opponent), is as bloodthirsty as many of the villains (she was literally ''smiling'' at the thought of making Zangya suffer in order to get back at Bojack for killing Pan) and doesn't take her promises seriously. She's so unlikable that many fans would rather root for Space Hitler (King Cold) than her. And that's not even taking into account the novelization. Case in point: when Eliem threatens to use carbonite which could potentially kill everyone in the audience if she doesn't forfeit, what's her reaction? Concern for innocent lives? Outrage over the callous threat? Nope! She just laughs to herself and thinks "Like I care."
** And apparently, she wasn't much better even as a child, given that she was willing to risk destroying the planet (or at the very least causing severe destruction) in order to beat Gohan in a sparring match.

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* DesignatedHero: U16 Bra is infuriatingly arrogant, never passes up an opportunity to mock other fighters for being weak, is a complete {{hypocrite}} (she calls anyone who uses magic/technology to fight a coward and a cheater, but has no problem eating some instant-healing sensu beans when a fight doesn't go her way or using putty clone afterimages to shackle her opponent), is as bloodthirsty as many of the villains (she was literally ''smiling'' at the thought of making Zangya suffer in order to get back at Bojack for killing Pan) and doesn't take her promises seriously. She's so unlikable that many fans would rather root for Space Hitler (King Cold) than her. And that's not even taking into account the novelization. Case in point: when Eliem threatens to use carbonite which could potentially kill everyone in the audience if she doesn't forfeit, what's her reaction? Concern for innocent lives? Outrage over the callous threat? Nope! She just laughs to herself and thinks "Like I care."
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" And apparently, she wasn't much better even as a child, given that she was willing to risk destroying the planet (or at the very least causing severe destruction) in order to beat Gohan in a sparring match.
7th Sep '16 6:39:50 PM Overlord347
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** And apparently, she wasn't much better even as a child, given that she was willing to risk destroying the planet (or at the very least causing severe destruction) in order to beat Gohan in a sparring match.
7th Sep '16 7:27:21 AM Ramona122003
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** Son Bra of U16: Some people think she's one of the best characters in the setting, others regard her as an overpowered, arrogant, SpoiledBrat {{Jerkass}} who has no respect for anyone other than her father and a handful of others. And even they are often on the receiving end of her normally very crude insults.
*** Hatred for her further grew ever since the fight with King Cold, when she somehow manages to eat a sensu beans and recover (see AssPull above). Many readers declared that not only does it make her seem like a complete hypocrite in the face of her earlier confidence when facing him, it cheapened the entire fight and made Cold's transformations entirely pointless. Moreover, if Bra has those beans stashed away all the time, how are the readers supposed to feel any tension when she can just eat them and be completely heal? There is also the fact that it's against the Saiyans' honor code. When Cell offered Goku a senzu bean in the middle of their match, Vegeta says that any pure-blooded Saiyans would rather die than take that offer. Although Bra is a half-breed, she tries to act like an aggressive, smug pure-blooded Saiyan.

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** Son Bra of U16: Some people think she's one of the best characters in the setting, others regard her as an overpowered, arrogant, SpoiledBrat {{Jerkass}} who has no respect for anyone other than her father and a handful of others. And even they are often on the receiving end of her normally very crude insults.
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insults. Hatred for her further grew ever since the fight with King Cold, when she somehow manages to eat a sensu beans and recover (see AssPull above). Many readers declared that not only does it make her seem like a complete hypocrite in the face of her earlier confidence when facing him, it cheapened the entire fight and made Cold's transformations entirely pointless. Moreover, if Bra has those beans stashed away all the time, how are the readers supposed to feel any tension when she can just eat them and be completely heal? There is also the fact that it's against the Saiyans' honor code. When Cell offered Goku a senzu bean in the middle of their match, Vegeta says that any pure-blooded Saiyans would rather die than take that offer. Although Bra is a half-breed, she tries to act like an aggressive, smug pure-blooded Saiyan.
7th Sep '16 5:54:14 AM Snowy66
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** Son Bra of U16: Some people think she's one of the best characters in the setting, others regard her as an overpowered, arrogant, SpoiledBrat {{Jerkass}} who has no respect for anyone other than her father and a handful of others. And even they are often on the receiving end of her normally very crude insults. Fans are now even more divided on the King Cold fight when she somehow manages to eat a sensu beans and recover (see AssPull above). Many readers declared that not only does it make her seem like a complete hypocrite in the face of her earlier confidence when facing him, it cheapened the entire fight and made Cold's transformations entirely pointless. Moreover, if Bra has those beans stashed away all the time, how are the readers supposed to feel any tension when she can just eat them and be completely heal? There is also the fact that it's against the Saiyans' honor code. When Cell offered Goku a senzu bean in the middle of their match, Vegeta says that any pure-blooded Saiyans would rather die than take that offer. Although Bra is a half-breed, she tries to act like an aggressive, smug pure-blooded Saiyan.

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** Son Bra of U16: Some people think she's one of the best characters in the setting, others regard her as an overpowered, arrogant, SpoiledBrat {{Jerkass}} who has no respect for anyone other than her father and a handful of others. And even they are often on the receiving end of her normally very crude insults. Fans are now even more divided on insults.
*** Hatred for her further grew ever since
the King Cold fight with King Cold, when she somehow manages to eat a sensu beans and recover (see AssPull above). Many readers declared that not only does it make her seem like a complete hypocrite in the face of her earlier confidence when facing him, it cheapened the entire fight and made Cold's transformations entirely pointless. Moreover, if Bra has those beans stashed away all the time, how are the readers supposed to feel any tension when she can just eat them and be completely heal? There is also the fact that it's against the Saiyans' honor code. When Cell offered Goku a senzu bean in the middle of their match, Vegeta says that any pure-blooded Saiyans would rather die than take that offer. Although Bra is a half-breed, she tries to act like an aggressive, smug pure-blooded Saiyan.
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