History YMMV / DragonBallMultiverse

16th Apr '17 10:29:45 AM Tropetastic1995
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** Many fans prefer Multiverse's retellings of several Toei films, such as the first two Broly movies and the first Cooler film. Cooler's Revenge is particularly notable, since Cooler actually puts up a terrific fight in the DBM version instead of getting immediately curbstomped by Super Saiyan Goku.

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** Many fans prefer Multiverse's retellings of several Toei films, such as the first two Broly movies and the first Cooler film. Cooler's Revenge is particularly notable, since Cooler actually puts up a terrific fight in the DBM version instead of getting immediately curbstomped by [[CurbStompCushion only having a shot with his Supernova]] against Super Saiyan Goku.
16th Apr '17 4:45:00 AM Ramona122003
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** Despite the controversy throughout, few argue about the sheer impressiveness of Chapter 53's art. Namely because [[spoiler:King Cold's 6th form is absolutely flooded with immense detail and nonstandard shapes]], but is still drawn consistently throughout '''an entire chapter''' with lots of movement and action thanks to Asura's artistic talent.
*** In fact, pretty much the webcomic in general became this when Asura stepped in. The series always had nice and recognizable art, but Asura had been able to really flourish since his start and has been impressing the fanbase with each page after ever since.

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** Despite the controversy throughout, few argue about the sheer impressiveness of Chapter 53's art. Namely because [[spoiler:King Cold's 6th form is absolutely flooded with immense detail and nonstandard shapes]], but is still drawn consistently throughout '''an entire chapter''' with lots of movement and action thanks to Asura's artistic talent.
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talent. In fact, pretty much the webcomic in general became this when Asura stepped in. The series always had nice and recognizable art, but Asura had been able to really flourish since his start and has been impressing the fanbase with each page after ever since.



** Related to the above. The overall treatment of Frieza and his family is a bit of a sore spot for their fans, as unlike other villains they have neither gotten any character development (Like the potential redemption of Piccolo and the androids or the BlueAndOrangeMorality of Zen Buu) or have gotten any stronger overtime (like Cell, King Vegeta, and again Zen Buu) and have instead become one of the main Butt Monkeys of the comic with King Cold being the only one to actually get stronger and have a fight where he wasn't being curb stomped [[spoiler: at least until his fight with Bra, and even then he wasn't even the actual King Cold.]] Some fans are ok with this pointing out that they would never actually train due to their massive egos and that them being the weakest overall opposing force is a nice bit of irony considering how much fear each of them at one point gathered throughout the universe. Others point out that their are plenty of things left in the galaxy that they would inevitably have to deal with at some point, like Babadi and his cronies and that other characters with mile high egos were able to get stronger so it wouldn't of been that much of a stretch to apply that to Cooler and Frieza.

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** Related to the above. The overall treatment of Frieza and his family is a bit of a sore spot for their fans, as unlike other villains they have neither gotten any character development (Like the potential redemption of Piccolo and the androids or the BlueAndOrangeMorality of Zen Buu) or have gotten any stronger overtime (like Cell, King Vegeta, and again Zen Buu) and have instead become one of the main Butt Monkeys of the comic with King Cold being the only one to actually get stronger and have a fight where he wasn't being curb stomped [[spoiler: at least until his fight with Bra, and even then he wasn't even the actual King Cold.]] Some fans are ok with this pointing out that they would never actually train due to their massive egos and that them being the weakest overall opposing force is a nice bit of irony considering how much fear each of them at one point gathered throughout the universe. Others point out that their are plenty of things left in the galaxy that they would inevitably have to deal with at some point, like Babadi and his cronies and that other characters with mile high egos were able to get stronger so it wouldn't of been that much of a stretch to apply that to Cooler and Frieza.



** How the multiverse works in the web series is vastly different from Toriyama's version. For one, the "multiverse" isn't just different timelines, they are their own physical universes with only the twin universes sharing the same planets and species. So Future Trunks' timeline is part of Universe 7 and not its own universe. Second, there are only seven official timelines as of this writing (two that were created during the Future Trunks Saga by Beerus and Whis). Instead of endlessly timelines being created through 'what ifs', time is linear unless it is altered by outside forces, which causes a new timeline to be form.



** How the multiverse works in the web series is vastly different from Toriyama's version. For one, the "multiverse" isn't just different timelines, they are their own physical universes with only the twin universes sharing the same planets and species. So Future Trunks' timeline is part of Universe 7 and not its own universe. Second, there are only seven official timelines as of this writing (two that were created during the Future Trunks Saga by Beerus and Whis). Instead of endlessly timelines being created through 'what ifs', time is linear unless it is altered by outside forces, which causes a new timeline to be form.



* TakeThatScrappy: [[spoiler: U16 Bra getting her body stolen by U8 Captain Ginyu, who has been playing the role of King Cold for ''years'' [[MagnificentBastard without anyone realizing it]], is seen as the most satisfying LaserGuidedKarma for Bra. After acting like a SmugSuper, SpoiledBrat who [[KarmaHoudini seemingly gets away with anything for most of the tournament]], having her soul trapped in a body she beat up and gloating over has elicited much rejoicing within the fandom]].

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* TakeThatScrappy: U16 Bra [[spoiler: U16 Bra getting her body stolen by U8 Captain Ginyu, who has been playing the role of King Cold for ''years'' [[MagnificentBastard without anyone realizing it]], is seen as the most satisfying LaserGuidedKarma for Bra. After acting like a SmugSuper, SpoiledBrat who [[KarmaHoudini seemingly gets away with anything for most of the tournament]], having her soul trapped in a body she beat up and gloating over has elicited much rejoicing within the fandom]].



** The Vargas who decided not to bother [[spoiler: sending Broly back to his universe]] after the Broly vs. Vegetto fight.
*** DumbassHasAPoint: As far as they knew [[spoiler: Broly]] wasn't a threat anymore and in the long run it would be safer to leave him in the lifeless universe the tournament is taking place in rather than send him back to his populated home one.

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** The Vargas who decided not to bother [[spoiler: sending Broly back to his universe]] after the Broly vs. Vegetto fight.
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fight. DumbassHasAPoint: As far as they knew [[spoiler: Broly]] wasn't a threat anymore and in the long run it would be safer to leave him in the lifeless universe the tournament is taking place in rather than send him back to his populated home one.
16th Apr '17 4:34:41 AM Ramona122003
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** Frieza ButtMonkey status is particularly hilarious given the ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' movie where he's Post-''Battle of Gods'' Goku's level. As in, ''Resurrection 'F''' Frieza would mop the floor with the entire tournament, being stronger than a Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta at the time.
** During the tournament, Goku is stunned when he feels Bra's power as a Super Saiyan, proclaiming her stronger than Vegeta and him. With ''Battle of Gods'', ''Resurrection 'F''', and ''Dragon Ball Super'', this line comes off as unintentionally funny since Goku and Vegeta's base forms are stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks.

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** Frieza ButtMonkey status is particularly hilarious given the ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' movie where he's Post-''Battle of Gods'' Goku's level. As in, ''Resurrection 'F''' Frieza would mop the floor with the entire tournament, being stronger than a Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta at the time.time of his resurrection.
** During the tournament, Goku is stunned when he feels Bra's power as a Super Saiyan, proclaiming her stronger than Vegeta and him. With ''Battle of Gods'', ''Resurrection 'F''', and ''Dragon Ball Super'', this line comes off as unintentionally funny since Goku and Vegeta's base forms are stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks.Gotenks and ''that'' was during the Champa Saga.



** In a more specific example, [[spoiler:both stories have an alternate universe where we see what the Saiyans would be if Frieza hadn't existed. ''Multiverse''[='s=] Universe 10 shows them as barely better than cavemen and so ridiculously weak that even turning into Great Apes can't help them, while ''Super''[='s=] 6th Universe shows them as becoming a race of noble heroes who have evolved beyond the need for tails, and one member is powerful enough to impress his universe's God of Destruction. Kyabe, the Saiyan from U6, is strong enough to fight evenly against Vegeta in his base form, ''after'' he has been training with Whis. For reference, in ''Super'', base form Vegeta is stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks to the point that he can [[NoSell no sells]] hits from him and takes Gotenks down in a couple of hits]].

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** In a more specific example, [[spoiler:both stories have an alternate universe where we see what the Saiyans would be if Frieza hadn't existed. ''Multiverse''[='s=] Universe 10 shows them as barely better than cavemen and so ridiculously weak that even turning into Great Apes can't help them, while ''Super''[='s=] 6th Universe shows them as becoming a race of noble heroes who have evolved beyond the need for tails, and one member is powerful enough to impress his universe's God of Destruction. Kyabe, Cabba, the Saiyan from U6, is strong enough to fight evenly against Vegeta in his base form, ''after'' he has been training with Whis. For reference, in ''Super'', base form Vegeta is stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks to the point that he can [[NoSell no sells]] hits from him and takes Gotenks down in a couple of hits]].



** Future Trunks in ''Multiverse'' is very powerful, but he never achieved Super Saiyan 2. Instead, he mastered his Ultra Super Saiyan form to be used in small bursts, giving him the power of a Super Saiyan 2 without losing speed. In ''Super'', [[spoiler: Trunks can become a Super Saiyan 2 and is at least as strong as Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Vegeta from the Buu Saga since he was able to deal with Dabura by himself]]. In the manga, [[spoiler: Trunks is evenly matched against Super Saiyan 3 Goku]]. It then goes a step further when Trunks [[spoiler: achieves Super Saiyan Rage, a form that seems to be just shy of Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan]].

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** Future Trunks in ''Multiverse'' is very powerful, but he never achieved Super Saiyan 2. Instead, he mastered his Ultra Super Saiyan form to be used in small bursts, giving him the power of a Super Saiyan 2 without losing speed. In ''Super'', [[spoiler: Trunks can become a Super Saiyan 2 and is at least as strong as Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Vegeta from the Buu Saga since he was able to deal with Dabura by himself]]. In the manga, [[spoiler: Trunks is evenly matched against Super Saiyan 3 Goku]]. It then goes a step further when Trunks [[spoiler: achieves Super Saiyan Rage, a form that seems to be just shy of Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan]].Saiyan in power]].


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** How the multiverse works in the web series is vastly different from Toriyama's version. For one, the "multiverse" isn't just different timelines, they are their own physical universes with only the twin universes sharing the same planets and species. So Future Trunks' timeline is part of Universe 7 and not its own universe. Second, there are only seven official timelines as of this writing (two that were created during the Future Trunks Saga by Beerus and Whis). Instead of endlessly timelines being created through 'what ifs', time is linear unless it is altered by outside forces, which causes a new timeline to be form.
16th Apr '17 3:57:29 AM Ramona122003
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** Like the Frieza example above, the battle between Android 17 and Goku comes off as this. Here, Goku comments that it's the first time they fight, and then [[CurbStompBattle oneshots him as a Super Saiyan]]. In their Canon first fight in ''Super'', [[spoiler: 17 took a massive level in badass and holds his own against Goku as a Super Saiyan Blue.]]
16th Apr '17 3:54:25 AM Ramona122003
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** Frieza ButtMonkey status is particularly hilarious given the ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' movie where he's Post-''Battle of Gods'' Goku's level. As in, ''Resurrection 'F''' Frieza would mop the floor with the entire tournament, being ''much'' stronger than a Super Saiyan Blue
[[labelnote: note]]He only lost because he didn't bother mastering his new form and ironing out it's stamina flaw. Before his stamina tanked,
Goku believed that Frieza would defeat him near-instantly had he fought seriously, and in the manga version of Super it is said in text that Goku and Vegeta teamed up against him and still had a fight on their hands.[[/labelnote]], which in itself is stronger than Super Saiyan God, which in turn is confirmed to be more powerful than Vegito was in the Buu Saga.

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** Frieza ButtMonkey status is particularly hilarious given the ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' movie where he's Post-''Battle of Gods'' Goku's level. As in, ''Resurrection 'F''' Frieza would mop the floor with the entire tournament, being ''much'' stronger than a Super Saiyan Blue
[[labelnote: note]]He only lost because he didn't bother mastering his new form and ironing out it's stamina flaw. Before his stamina tanked,
Goku believed that Frieza would defeat him near-instantly had he fought seriously, and in the manga version of Super it is said in text that
Blue Goku and Vegeta teamed up against him and still had a fight on their hands.[[/labelnote]], which in itself is stronger than Super Saiyan God, which in turn is confirmed to be more powerful than Vegito was in at the Buu Saga.time.
16th Apr '17 3:52:10 AM Tropetastic1995
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** Frieza ButtMonkey status is particularly hilarious given the ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' movie where he's Post-''Battle of Gods'' Goku's level. As in, ''Resurrection 'F''' Frieza would mop the floor with the entire tournament. (except possibly XXI)

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** Frieza ButtMonkey status is particularly hilarious given the ''Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF'' movie where he's Post-''Battle of Gods'' Goku's level. As in, ''Resurrection 'F''' Frieza would mop the floor with the entire tournament. (except possibly XXI)tournament, being ''much'' stronger than a Super Saiyan Blue
[[labelnote: note]]He only lost because he didn't bother mastering his new form and ironing out it's stamina flaw. Before his stamina tanked,
Goku believed that Frieza would defeat him near-instantly had he fought seriously, and in the manga version of Super it is said in text that Goku and Vegeta teamed up against him and still had a fight on their hands.[[/labelnote]], which in itself is stronger than Super Saiyan God, which in turn is confirmed to be more powerful than Vegito was in the Buu Saga.
** Like the Frieza example above, the battle between Android 17 and Goku comes off as this. Here, Goku comments that it's the first time they fight, and then [[CurbStompBattle oneshots him as a Super Saiyan]]. In their Canon first fight in ''Super'', [[spoiler: 17 took a massive level in badass and holds his own against Goku as a Super Saiyan Blue.]]
8th Apr '17 8:26:08 AM Pokesamus
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** Related to the above. The overall treatment of Frieza and his family is a bit of a sore spot for their fans, as unlike other villains they have neither gotten any character development (Like the potential redemption of Piccolo and the androids or the BlueAndOrangeMorality of Zen Buu) or have gotten any stronger overtime (like Cell, King Vegeta, and again Zen Buu) and have instead become one of the main Butt Monkeys of the comic with King Cold being the only one to actually get stronger and have a fight where he wasn't being curb stomped [[spoiler: at least until his fight with Bra, and even then he wasn't even the actual King Cold.]] Some fans are ok with this pointing out that they would never actually train due to their massive egos and that them being the weakest overall opposing force is a nice bit of irony considering how much fear each of them at one point gathered throughout the universe. Others point out that their are plenty of things left in the galaxy that they would inevitably have to deal with at some point, like Babadi and his cronies and that other characters with mile high egos were able to get stronger so it wouldn't of been that much of a stretch to apply that to Cooler and Frieza.
30th Mar '17 4:42:21 AM naal2
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the middle half of the three-part Universe 8 special, we see Jeice dreaming about Ginyu stepping down as leader and making him in charge of the new "Jeice Force". At the end of the special, Ginyu will die taking the blame for Frieza's men, thus making Jeice (as the second in command) the new leader of the Ginyu Force.



** In Universes 1 and 10, the Supreme Kais decided to forsake their oath of non-intervention, killing Broly, Frieza and his family, and Babidi before they could become threats, all in the name of the 'greater good'. ''Super'' introduces Zamasu, a Supreme Kai-in-training who adopts a similar philosophy...but takes it '''much''' further, [[spoiler:developing into a KnightTemplar, OmnicidalManiac who wants to kill ''all'' mortals since he believes they'll never be anything more than violent savages.]] For bonus points, Zamasu ''also'' comes from Universe 10, just Toriyama's version of it.

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** In Universes 1 and 10, the Supreme Kais decided to forsake their oath of non-intervention, killing Broly, Frieza and his family, and Babidi Bibidi before they could become threats, all in the name of the 'greater good'. ''Super'' introduces Zamasu, a Supreme Kai-in-training who adopts a similar philosophy...but takes it '''much''' further, [[spoiler:developing into a KnightTemplar, OmnicidalManiac who wants to kill ''all'' mortals since he believes they'll never be anything more than violent savages.]] For bonus points, Zamasu ''also'' comes from Universe 10, just Toriyama's version of it.



** During the tournament, Goku is stun when he feels Bra's power as a Super Saiyan, proclaiming her stronger than Vegeta and him. With ''Battle of Gods'', ''Resurrection 'F''', and ''Dragon Ball Super'', this line comes off as unintentionally funny since Goku and Vegeta's base forms are stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks.
** In ''Multiverse'', Goku's mom is a hardcore Saiyan warrior who was the strongest Saiyan alive. Goku's canon mother is the exact opposite, being a soft-hearted person who wasn't cut off for battle.

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** During the tournament, Goku is stun stunned when he feels Bra's power as a Super Saiyan, proclaiming her stronger than Vegeta and him. With ''Battle of Gods'', ''Resurrection 'F''', and ''Dragon Ball Super'', this line comes off as unintentionally funny since Goku and Vegeta's base forms are stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks.
** In ''Multiverse'', Goku's mom is a hardcore Saiyan warrior who was the strongest Saiyan alive. Goku's canon mother is the exact opposite, being a weak, soft-hearted person who wasn't cut off for battle.
20th Feb '17 1:35:23 PM TheBafomdad
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** Despite the controversy throughout, few argue about the sheer impressiveness of Chapter 53's art. Namely because [[spoiler:King Cold's 6th form is absolutely flooded with immense detail and nonstandard shapes]], but is still drawn consistently throughout '''an entire chapter''' with lots of movement and action thanks to Asura's artistic talent.
*** In fact, pretty much the webcomic in general became this when Asura stepped in. The series always had nice and recognizable art, but Asura had been able to really flourish since his start and has been impressing the fanbase with each page after ever since.
14th Feb '17 4:57:19 PM Eagal
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* TakeThatScrappy: [[spoiler: U16 Bra getting her body stolen by U8 Captain Ginyu, who has been playing the role of King Cold for ''years'' [[MagnificentBastard without anyone realizing it]], is seen as the most satisfying LaserGuidedKarma for Bra. After acting like a SmugSuper, SpoiledBrat who [[KarmaHoudini seemingly gets away with anything for most of the tournament]], having her soul trapped in a body she beat up and gloating over has elicited [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing much rejoicing]] within the fandom]].

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* TakeThatScrappy: [[spoiler: U16 Bra getting her body stolen by U8 Captain Ginyu, who has been playing the role of King Cold for ''years'' [[MagnificentBastard without anyone realizing it]], is seen as the most satisfying LaserGuidedKarma for Bra. After acting like a SmugSuper, SpoiledBrat who [[KarmaHoudini seemingly gets away with anything for most of the tournament]], having her soul trapped in a body she beat up and gloating over has elicited [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing much rejoicing]] rejoicing within the fandom]].
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