History YMMV / DragonBallMultiverse

21st Jun '17 9:20:26 PM LinTaylor
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** In ''Multiverse'', Future Android 17 and 18 are revealed to have become defective and less powerful after going years without a tuneup. When 17 showed up in ''Super'', he's revealed to have been training and has managed to hit god-tier all on his own.

to:

** In ''Multiverse'', Future Android 17 and 18 are revealed to have become defective and less powerful after going years without a tuneup. When 17 showed up in ''Super'', he's revealed to have been training and has managed to hit god-tier all on his own. It helps that according to the official guide books the Androids are still mostly human with biological enhancements and their only mechanical modifications being their infinite energy power sources[[note]]plus the self-destruct bombs which were wished away at the end of the Cell Saga[[/note]]. Of course, these are the very same guidebooks Salagir will ignore if he doesn't agree with the contents, so...
17th Jun '17 7:42:07 AM Ramona122003
Is there an issue? Send a Message


*** To be fair, this is 10 years after canon ended, and Vegeto implies that everyone trained, and followed Gotenks' lead in creating objects with their energy. Maybe justified by Zen Buu thinking they wanted to keep some new techniques up their sleeve.
17th Jun '17 5:19:52 AM darksoul4242
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

**** To be fair, this is 10 years after canon ended, and Vegeto implies that everyone trained, and followed Gotenks' lead in creating objects with their energy. Maybe justified by Zen Buu thinking they wanted to keep some new techniques up their sleeve.
12th Jun '17 6:27:36 AM Ramona122003
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** While U16 as a whole is a SpotlightStealingSquad, that universe's version of Piccolo seemed to only exist to be Bra's tailor. Pan from the same universe also doesn't get much focus since [[spoiler: she died to Bojack and only came back]] and only appears to adore [[CreatorsPet Bra]], which is a shame since she's one of the few characters from that universe aside from Gohan who isn't a jerk.

to:

** While U16 as a whole is a SpotlightStealingSquad, that universe's version of Piccolo seemed to only exist to be Bra's tailor. Pan from the same universe also doesn't get much focus since [[spoiler: she died to Bojack and only just came back]] and only appears to adore [[CreatorsPet Bra]], which is a shame since she's one of the few characters from that universe aside from Gohan who isn't a jerk.
12th Jun '17 6:12:53 AM Snowy66
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** While U16 as a whole is a SpotlightStealingSquad, that universe's version of Piccolo seemed to only exist to be Bra's tailor. Pan from the same universe also doesn't get much focus since [[spoiler: she died to Bojack and only came back]] and only appears to adore [[CreatorsPet Bra]], which is ashamed since she's the most likable character from that universe next to Gohan.

to:

** While U16 as a whole is a SpotlightStealingSquad, that universe's version of Piccolo seemed to only exist to be Bra's tailor. Pan from the same universe also doesn't get much focus since [[spoiler: she died to Bojack and only came back]] and only appears to adore [[CreatorsPet Bra]], which is ashamed a shame since she's one of the most likable character few characters from that universe next to Gohan.aside from Gohan who isn't a jerk.
12th Jun '17 6:04:57 AM Ramona122003
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Frieza gets the short end of the stick in EVERY universe he appears in. The one version of Frieza taking part in the tournament has had no increase in power, when he could have had a 5th form or some other kind of interesting transformation.

to:

** Frieza [[ButtMonkey Freeza]] gets the short end of the stick in EVERY universe he appears in. The one version of Frieza taking part in the tournament has had no increase in power, when he could have had a 5th form or some other kind of interesting transformation.transformation.
** His older and more competent brother Cooler doesn't fare much better, despite having several reasons to get stronger. The version in the tournament got stomped by Future Trunks and is always left speechless when he sees the power of those stronger than him, which doesn't match how he was portrayed in his movies.


Added DiffLines:

** While U16 as a whole is a SpotlightStealingSquad, that universe's version of Piccolo seemed to only exist to be Bra's tailor. Pan from the same universe also doesn't get much focus since [[spoiler: she died to Bojack and only came back]] and only appears to adore [[CreatorsPet Bra]], which is ashamed since she's the most likable character from that universe next to Gohan.
12th Jun '17 5:54:02 AM Ramona122003
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Many think the main universe, U18, in general fell into this since they get little spotlight despite them supposedly being the 'canon' universe. Goku and Vegeta only seemed to get lines when it's related to [[SpotlightStealingSquad U16]], especially [[CreatorsPet Bra]], U13, or [[CreatorsPet Broly]]. Piccolo has little to no presence, Gohan is so laughably similar to his U16's counterpart that the web comic even made a joke about it, and Pan is knocked out early by U13 Kakarotto. It doesn't help that all of Goku's matches have the RunningGag of being a SingleStrokeBattle.
11th Jun '17 9:10:20 AM Larkmarn
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Universe 20 Broly. Salagir exaggerates Broly's power, moving him from "extremely powerful" to "invincible" while in his Legendary Super Saiyan state. Additionally, he gets a lot of focus despite being an ultimately unimportant character (his fight with Vegetto being the BatmanColdOpen of the entire series). This occurs because he thinks Broly's awesome. Broly is pretty unpopular with the hardcore ''Dragon Ball'' fanbase due to overexposure, so this blatant favoritism doesn't go unnoticed.

to:

** Universe 20 Broly. Salagir exaggerates Broly's power, moving him from "extremely powerful" to "invincible" while in his Legendary Super Saiyan state. Additionally, he gets a lot of focus despite being an ultimately unimportant character (his fight with Vegetto being the BatmanColdOpen of the entire series). This occurs because he thinks Broly's awesome. Broly is pretty unpopular with the hardcore ''Dragon Ball'' fanbase due to overexposure, so this blatant favoritism doesn't go unnoticed. Saligir himself regularly takes to the comments to argue that Broly is interesting and justify his favoritism which mostly falls on deaf ears.
6th Jun '17 6:50:23 AM darksoul4242
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Better question, who thought it was a good idea to put Broly in the tournament? As one of the Namekians pointed out, he's a maniac and Vegetto even state Broly would attack the audiences and be disqualified. So there was no point of having Broly fight since it would only end in needless deaths. It's about as reckless as inviting Kid Buu. Even better, why did they bring a person in an ice cube that they weren't even sure was still alive?
** Yes Freeza, go ahead and try to kill the loyal soilder who has the ability to change body's while leaving the task of actually making sure he's dead to some random unidentifiable mook. [[SarcasmMode This can in no way go wrong.]] [[spoiler: Just ask your dad..... oh]]
** Freeza from U3 is also an idiot. He saw a bunch of Great Apes heading for his ship, the worst case scenario being a Saiyan Rebellion. How does he respond? Going out himself and taking care of the problem since even a lower class Saiyan gets a massive boost from the Great Ape form? No, he sits in his chair and sends his low class grunts to fight them and then acts surprise when almost all of them get killed in minutes. By the time he finally decides to do anything, he has dozens of Great Apes firing blasts at him.
** The Grand Supreme Kai being willing to let [[spoiler: U4 Buu]] compete after his rampage was a relief to fans who felt it was too soon for him to exit the story, but the fact is that he allowed him to still compete is still foolish. While it is true they have him contained at the moment, the fact of the manner is that since he learned how to overcome Vargas technology and manipulate it, it means he is resourceful enough that overcoming the technique used to contain him is not out the realms of possibilities. U16 Gohan already told the Kais everything about him, meaning that the Grand Supreme Kai already knows just how dangerous he can be. However, as of Chapter 42, East Supreme Kai seems to think that he is actually being controlled by him.

to:

** Better question, who thought it was a good idea to put Broly in the tournament? As one of the Namekians pointed out, he's a maniac and Vegetto even state states Broly would attack the audiences audience and be disqualified. So there was no point of having Broly fight since it would only end in needless deaths. It's about as reckless as inviting Kid Buu. Even better, why did they bring a person in an ice cube that they weren't even sure was still alive?
** Yes Yes, Freeza, go ahead and try to kill the loyal soilder soldier who has the ability to change body's while leaving the task of actually making sure he's dead to some random unidentifiable mook. [[SarcasmMode This can in no way go wrong.]] [[spoiler: Just ask your dad..... oh]]
oh.]]
** Freeza from U3 is also an idiot. He saw a bunch of Great Apes heading for his ship, the worst case scenario being a Saiyan Rebellion. How does he respond? Going out himself and taking care of the problem since even a lower class Saiyan gets a massive boost from the Great Ape form? No, he sits in his chair and sends his low class grunts to fight them and then acts surprise surprised when almost all of them get killed in minutes. By the time he finally decides to do anything, he has dozens of Great Apes firing blasts at him.
** The Grand Supreme Kai being willing to let [[spoiler: U4 Buu]] compete after his rampage was a relief to fans who felt it was too soon for him to exit the story, but the fact is that he allowed him to still compete is still foolish. While it is true they have him contained at the moment, the fact of the manner is that since he learned how to overcome Vargas the Vargas' technology and manipulate it, it means he is resourceful enough that overcoming the technique used to contain him is not out the realms of possibilities. U16 Gohan already told the Kais everything about him, meaning that the Grand Supreme Kai already knows just how dangerous he can be. However, as of Chapter 42, East Supreme Kai seems to think that he is actually being controlled by him.
6th Jun '17 6:43:32 AM darksoul4242
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* TheScrappy: Son Bra of U16 was once a very firm BaseBreakingCharacter, with some thinking she was one of the best characters in the setting, while others regarded her as an overpowered, arrogant, SpoiledBrat, who had no respect for anyone other than her father and a handful of others (and even they weren't exempt from being insulted by her). However, over time her unlikable qualities became more blatant, along with the fandom's hatred for her. After her fight with King Cold, it's very hard to find anyone still defending her character, and she now appears to have been promoted/demoted to [[TheScrappy scrappy]] status. During the controversial fight, she somehow manages to eat some senzu beans and recover (see AssPull above). Many readers declared that not only does it make her seem like a complete hypocrite in the face of her earlier confidence when facing him, it cheapened the entire fight and made Cold's transformations entirely pointless. Moreover, if Bra has those beans stashed away all the time, how are the readers supposed to feel any tension when she can just eat them and be completely heal? There is also the fact that it's against the Saiyans' honor code. When Cell offered Goku a senzu bean in the middle of their match, Vegeta says that any pure-blooded Saiyans would rather die than take that offer. Although Bra is a half-breed, she tries to act like an aggressive, smug pure-blooded Saiyan.

to:

* TheScrappy: Son Bra of U16 was once a very firm BaseBreakingCharacter, with some thinking she was one of the best characters in the setting, while others regarded her as an overpowered, arrogant, SpoiledBrat, who had no respect for anyone other than her father and a handful of others (and even they weren't exempt from being insulted by her). However, over time her unlikable qualities became more blatant, along with the fandom's hatred for her. After her fight with King Cold, it's very hard to find anyone still defending her character, and she now appears to have been promoted/demoted to [[TheScrappy scrappy]] status. During the controversial fight, she somehow manages to eat some senzu beans and recover (see AssPull above). Many readers declared that not only does it make her seem like a complete hypocrite in the face of her earlier confidence when facing him, it cheapened the entire fight and made Cold's transformations entirely pointless. Moreover, if Bra has those beans stashed away all the time, how are the readers supposed to feel any tension when she can just eat them and be completely heal? healed? There is also the fact that it's against the Saiyans' honor code. When Cell offered Goku a senzu bean in the middle of their match, Vegeta says that any pure-blooded Saiyans would rather die than take that offer. Although Bra is a half-breed, she tries to act like an aggressive, smug pure-blooded Saiyan.
This list shows the last 10 events of 404. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.DragonBallMultiverse