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** Or JerkassWoobie [[spoiler: by the ending.]]
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: To the point where Creator/QuentinTarantino believes that, had this not been a film first but a play instead, it would have won the Pulitzer Prize.
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Typo.
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: To the point where Creator/QuentinTarantino believes that, had this not been a film first but a play instead, it would have won the Pultzer Prize.
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: To the point where Creator/QuentinTarantino believes that, had this not been a film first but a play instead, it would have won the Pultzer Pulitzer Prize.
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** Or JerkassWoobie [[spoiler: by the ending.]]
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* TrueArtIsAngstyTrueArtIsAngsty: To the point where Creator/QuentinTarantino believes that, had this not been a film first but a play instead, it would have won the Pultzer Prize.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Grace. Just look at this page for examples. People just ignore that she's a MafiaPrincess who will eventually [[NotSoDifferent probably engage in her own acts of evil]] and had a ''baby'' murdered.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Grace. Just look at this page for examples. People just ignore that she's a MafiaPrincess who will eventually [[NotSoDifferent probably engage in her own acts of evil]] evil and had a ''baby'' murdered.
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Everyone gets their individual moment apart from collectively enslaving and chaining Grace. And we MEAN EVERYONE. The short list: Chuck was the first one to cross the line by raping Grace. Vera's response to his crime is to start assaulting Grace out of jealousy. Ben breaks their deal and rapes her before returning her to the town. Tom Edison who tries to pass himself as above it all after ignoring Grace's abuse lets her take the fall for the theft that he committed which goes even further when is the one to betray her to the gangsters who he thought would hurt her for calling him out on his hypocrisy. Grace arguably crossed it at the end when during the massacre of the entire village she didn't exclude the baby from the massacre]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Everyone gets their individual moment apart from collectively enslaving and chaining Grace. And we MEAN mean EVERYONE. The short list: Chuck was the first one to cross the line by raping Grace. Vera's response to his crime is to start assaulting Grace out of jealousy. Ben breaks their deal and rapes her before returning her to the town. Tom Edison Edison, who tries to pass himself as above it all after ignoring Grace's abuse abuse, lets her take the fall for the theft that he committed which goes even further when he is the one to betray her to the gangsters who he thought would hurt her for calling him out on his hypocrisy. Grace arguably crossed it at the end when during the massacre of the entire village -- she didn't exclude the baby from the massacre]].
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is grace really as kind and forgiving as presented? She's still a MafiaPrincess after all, and it doesn't take much convincing for her to massacre everyone in Dogville.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is grace Grace really as kind and forgiving as presented? She's still a MafiaPrincess after all, and it doesn't take much convincing for her to massacre everyone in Dogville.
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Can anyone claim that there was any other other human being in the village, apart from the baby, who didn't sign his own death warrant? Also I'd be curious to hear how worse could she be anyway?
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Grace. Just look at this page for examples. People just ignore that she's a MafiaPrincess who [[NotSoDifferent probably engages in acts of evil far worse than the townsfolk did]] and had them all murdered (including children and ''babies'' who did nothing to her, just to torment their parents).
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Grace. Just look at this page for examples. People just ignore that she's a MafiaPrincess who will eventually [[NotSoDifferent probably engages engage in her own acts of evil far worse than the townsfolk did]] evil]] and had them all murdered (including children and ''babies'' who did nothing to her, just to torment their parents).a ''baby'' murdered.
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Everyone gets their individual moment apart from collectively enslaving and chaining Grace. And we MEAN EVERYONE. The short list: Chuck was the first one to cross the line by raping Grace. Vera's response to his crime is to start assaulting Grace out of jealousy. Ben breaks their deal and rapes her before returning her to the town. Tom Edison who tries to pass up as above it all has two moments when after ignoring Grace's abuse lets her take the fall for the theft that he committed and later is the one to betray her to the gangsters who he thought would hurt her for calling him out on his hypocrisy. Grace arguably crossed it at the end when during the massacre of the entire village they didn't stop for the baby]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Everyone gets their individual moment apart from collectively enslaving and chaining Grace. And we MEAN EVERYONE. The short list: Chuck was the first one to cross the line by raping Grace. Vera's response to his crime is to start assaulting Grace out of jealousy. Ben breaks their deal and rapes her before returning her to the town. Tom Edison who tries to pass up himself as above it all has two moments when all after ignoring Grace's abuse lets her take the fall for the theft that he committed and later which goes even further when is the one to betray her to the gangsters who he thought would hurt her for calling him out on his hypocrisy. Grace arguably crossed it at the end when during the massacre of the entire village they she didn't stop for exclude the baby]].baby from the massacre]].
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* CatharsisFactor: [[spoiler: It's quite satisfying to see the townsfolk being slaughtered by the gangsters considering the horrible abuse and explotacion they put Grace through.]]
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* CatharsisFactor: [[spoiler: It's quite satisfying to see the townsfolk being slaughtered by the gangsters considering the horrible abuse and explotacion exploitation they put Grace through.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Everyone gets their individual moment apart from collectively enslaving and chaining Grace. And we MEAN EVERYONE. The short list: Chuck was the first one to cross the line by raping Grace. Vera's response to his crime is to start assaulting Grace out of jealousy. Ben breaks their deal and rapes her before returning her to the town. Tom Edison who tries to pass up as above it all has two moments when after ignoring Grace's abuse lets her take the fall for the theft that he committed and later is the one to betray her to the gangsters who he thought would hurt her for calling him out on his hypocrisy. Grace arguably crossed it at the end when during the massacre of the entire village they didn't stop for the baby]].
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is grace really as kind and forgiving as presented? She's still a MafiaPrincess after all, and it doesn't take much convincing for her to massacre everyone in Dogville.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Grace. Just look at this page for examples. People just ignore that she's a MafiaPrincess who [[NotSoDifferent probably engages in acts of evil far worse than the townsfolk did]] and had them all murdered (including children and ''babies'' who did nothing to her, just to torment their parents).
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Everyone gets their individual moment apart from collectively enslaving and chaining Grace. And we MEAN EVERYONE. The short list: Chuck was the first one to cross the line by raping Grace. Vera's response to his crime is to start assaulting Grace out of jealousy. Ben breaks their deal and rapes her before returning her to the town. Tom Edison who tries to pass up as above it all has two moments when after ignoring Grace's abuse lets her take the fall for the theft that he committed and later is the one to betray her to the gangsters who he thought would hurt her for calling him out on his hypocrisy. YMMV if Grace arguably crossed it at the end when during the massacre of the entire deserving village didn't stop for the baby]].
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* CatharsisFactor: [[spoiler: It's quite satisfied seeing the townsfolk being slaughtered by the gangsters considering the horrible abuse and explotacion they put Grace through.]]
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* CatharsisFactor: [[spoiler: It's quite satisfied seeing satisfying to see the townsfolk being slaughtered by the gangsters considering the horrible abuse and explotacion they put Grace through.]]
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* CastingGag: This is not the first time James Caan plays a [[Film/TheGodfather mobster]] [[spoiler: who does not take it kindly when a female relative of his is abused]].
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* CastingGag: This is not the first time James Caan plays a [[Film/TheGodfather mobster]] [[spoiler: who does not take it kindly when a female relative of his is abused]].
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Grace specifically notes that Georgetown can see the light of the fires, and someone's going to check on it soon and take Moses in.
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* FridgeHorror: Grace [[spoiler: sparing the dog at first seems like a rather kind gesture, until you realize that the dog is now alone in the middle of nowhere without anybody to care for or feed it, and will probably go the way of the townsfolk fairly soon.]]
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** Double dose: [[spoiler: thanks to the massacre, there's actually quite a bit of food available to the dog. So, he might survive... but only by going feral.]]
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Let's keep religion out of this
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** In which case the ending would be a commentary on just how special the real Jesus' forgiveness is supposed to be.
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Everyone gets their moment.individual moment apart from collectively enslaving and chaining Grace. And we MEAN EVERYONE. The short list: Chuck was the first one to cross the line by raping Grace. Vera's response to his crime is to start assaulting Grace out of jealousy. Ben breaks their deal and rapes her before returning her to the town. Tom Edison who tries to pass up as above it all has two moments when after ignoring Grace's abuse lets her take the fall for the theft that he committed and later is the one to betray her to the gangsters who he thought would hurt her for calling him out on his hypocrisy. YMMV if Grace crossed it at the end when during the massacre of the entire deserving village she didn't stop for the baby]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Everyone gets their moment, YMMV if Grace crossed it at the end massacring the entire village. And we MEAN EVERYONE. The short list: Chuck was the first one to cross the line by raping Grace. Ben breaks their deal and rapes her before returning her to the town. Tom Edison who tries to pass up as above it all has two moments when after ignoring Grace's abuse lets her take the fall for the theft that he committed and later is the one to betray her to the gangsters who he thought would hurt her for calling him out on his hypocrisy]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Everyone gets their moment, YMMV if Grace crossed it at the end massacring the entire village.moment. And we MEAN EVERYONE. The short list: Chuck was the first one to cross the line by raping Grace. Ben breaks their deal and rapes her before returning her to the town. Tom Edison who tries to pass up as above it all has two moments when after ignoring Grace's abuse lets her take the fall for the theft that he committed and later is the one to betray her to the gangsters who he thought would hurt her for calling him out on his hypocrisy]].hypocrisy. YMMV if Grace crossed it at the end when during the massacre of the entire deserving village she didn't stop for the baby]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Everyone gets their moment, YMMV if Grace crossed it at the end massacring the entire village. And we MEAN EVERYONE.]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Everyone gets their moment, YMMV if Grace crossed it at the end massacring the entire village. And we MEAN EVERYONE.]]. The short list: Chuck was the first one to cross the line by raping Grace. Ben breaks their deal and rapes her before returning her to the town. Tom Edison who tries to pass up as above it all has two moments when after ignoring Grace's abuse lets her take the fall for the theft that he committed and later is the one to betray her to the gangsters who he thought would hurt her for calling him out on his hypocrisy]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Everyone gets their moment, YMMV if Grace crossed it at the end massacring the entire village]]. And we MEAN EVERYONE.
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Everyone gets their moment, YMMV if Grace crossed it at the end massacring the entire village]].village. And we MEAN EVERYONE.]].
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* FridgeHorror: Grace [[spoiler: sparing the dog at first seems like a rather kind gesture, until you realize that the dog is now alone in the middle of nowhere without anybody to care for or feed it, and will probably go the way of the townsfolk fairly soon.]]
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* KickTheSonOfABitch [[spoiler:Grace may have been wrong in ordering the deaths of the townspeople but it's hard not to understand why she did it.]]