History YMMV / DeathBattle

** Check out Mario vs Sonic to know what we're talking about. [[spoiler: Those Mario fans released so much hate.]]
* DanBrowned: [[ShownTheirWork Death Battle pretty much always shows the research for all competitors]], which makes it all the more DanBrowned when the fights hinge off ignoring a large chunk of it.%% I know it's easy to try and molest the show for not getting everything right or defend the show because it's just a silly animation, but PLEASE do NOT do justifying edits or long rants about how stuff doesn't work that way.
** In Doomguy VS Master Chief:
** [[spoiler:Doomguy is flat out stated to be faster than a speeding rocket, which in the facts has him as basically being a human bullet in terms of agility. Ask any Doom player, and they'll back this up as well as Circle Strafing being commonly accepted tactics to win in any fight. In the actual fight sequence with Master Chief, he slowly lumbers toward Chief while unloading his entire arsenal, as well as tanking every single shot.]]
** [[spoiler:Energy Swords are stated to be able to deflect bullets, but Master Chief has not been able to demonstrate this feat in-game or out of game. He then uses an Energy Sword to deflect a minigun's full barrage.]]
** [[spoiler:Finally, as noted in GameplayAndStorySegregation, Master Chief's Bubble Shield and Grenade problem. By throwing the shield down to survive the BFG, it was physically impossible for him to throw a grenade through it. Doomguy's previous blast with the BFG essentially locks down Master Chief as having had to throw the grenade from inside the shield to survive and land the final critical blow, a contradiction that should have ended in MC's death either way.]]
%% I know it's easy to try and molest the show for not getting everything right or defend the show because it's just a silly animation, but PLEASE do NOT do justifying edits or long rants about how stuff doesn't work that way.

* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Several of the Death Battles can apply, but the most recent example for this was Thor vs Raiden.

** [[spoiler:Finally, as noted in GameplayAndStorySegregation, Master Chief's Bubble Shield and Grenade problem. By throwing the shield down to survive the BFG9000, it was physically impossible for him to throw a grenade through it. Doomguy's previous blast with the BFG essentially locks down Master Chief as having had to throw the grenade from inside the shield to survive and land the final critical blow, a contradiction that should have ended in MC's death either way.]]

* DanBrowned: [[ShownTheirWork Death Battle pretty much always shows the research for all competitors]], which makes it all the more DanBrowned when the resulting verdict of the fight hinges off ignoring a large chunk of it. The now infamous Master Chief vs. Doomguy battle sequence was ruthlessly picked apart by the fans, pointing out how the fight actually contradicted much of the facts about both characters shown earlier. Considering they actually did show their work just minutes ago, then promptly ignored a shockingly large amount of it, DanBrowned is the most logical explanation of why this happened, as well as to allow PopularityPower to prevail in the end in the fandom's eyes.

*** [[spoiler: to be fair, this was probably done so they could showcase each weapon, like in {{Deadliest Warrior}}, as well as them flat out saying the fight we see doesn't determine the winner, but the research, the showcase is there for entertainment]].
** [[spoiler:In the facts, Energy Swords are stated to be able to deflect bullets, but Master Chief himself is not yet skilled enough to accomplish this feat. In the fight... He uses an Energy Sword to deflect a ''minigun's full barrage.'']]
*** [[spoiler:They actually said it was weapon he hadn't fully mastered, not that he wasn't skilled enough to block bullets, a technique that seems be just holding the sword up like a shield, what with its large, round base makes it look like that was...intentional....]]
** [[spoiler:Finally, as noted in GameplayAndStorySegregation, Master Chief's Bubble Shield and Grenade problem. What makes this worse is that Doomguy's previous blast with the BFG essentially locks down Master Chief as having had to throw the grenade from inside the shield to survive and land the final critical blow, a contradiction that should have ended in MC's death either way.]]
*** [[spoiler:this is just guess, but seeing Chief in the shield might have just been the animator showing how MC survived, the small window when MC is obscured by the cloud of the explosion is enough for him to pitch the grenade.]]
** [[spoiler:One of the big reasons Master Chief was said to win was because Doomguy has no long-range weapons. Doom is one of the few video games to avert the ShortRangeShotgun trope, with the Shotgun and Plasma Rifle being THE long-range weapons of choice.]]
*** [[spoiler: no denying that, but they were probably making a point of the lack of a sniper rifle in Doom or that many open fields where such long range weapons would be of use. The point still stands, it wasn't DG having no long range weapons, just MC's range being LONGER.]]
** In a different fight, Harry Potter vs Luke Skywalker, [[spoiler: Shatterpoint doesn't affect organics, and attacks weaknesses in the construction of material. Harry Potter's scar is just old knitted flesh, it would not be able to be targetted by Shatterpoint.]]
*** [[spoiler:This not true. The StarWars [[TheWikiRule Wiki]] states that Shatterpoint CAN spot and reopen scars on organics, as Cade Skywalker did with Darth Talon and Nyna Calixte.]]

** In Shadow V.S. Vegeta, [[spoiler: Super Shadow spent most of his time teleporting Super Saiyan Vegeta around via Chaos Control, which ultimately led to his undoing. If he hadn't wasted so much time on his Chaos Control, however...]] The way it ended would probably have been the same, but the fight itself [[YourMileageMayVary might]] have been more enjoyable to watch.

* AccidentalNightmareFuel: Harry Potter's [[spoiler: scar ''exploding'' and his agonized scream]] might be either this or {{Narm}}. Also, [[spoiler: Metal Overlord destroying everything and everyone]] from Eggman VS Wily might be either this or a CrowningMomentOfAwesome.

** In Shadow V.S. Vegeta, Super Shadow spent most of his time teleporting Super Saiyan Vegeta around via Chaos Control, which ultimately led to his undoing. If he hadn't wasted so much time on his Chaos Control, however... The way it ended would probably have been the same, but the fight itself [[YourMileageMayVary might]] have been more enjoyable to watch.

** Although the Starscream vs. Rainbow Dash fight was fairly on the ball as far as it goes concerning the staff showing their work, they make a mistake when [[spoiler: writing in that Rainbow Dash took a null ray shot with little consequence. Death Battle's reasoning is that null rays are designed to destroy machines and not living beings (ponies), but that's incorrect; the null-ray is explicitly stated as being capable of stopping any electrical activity in a target with one shot, whether it's organic or Transformer. Dash would likely have been put out of commission if not straight killed from cardiac arrest and/or brain-death, as absence of electrical activity in the heart or brain are effectively synonyms for "dead" (both are conditions medical practitioners use to certify death). It's weird they would research enough to know that null rays can take out a machine, but not enough to know that they also have extremely dire consequences to an organic being.]]

* FridgeBrilliance: As several observers have noted, [[spoiler: Starscream lost his fight with Rainbow Dash because [[ButtMonkey he's always doomed to lose in the G1 continuity.]]]]
** [[spoiler: [[IronButtMonkey And survive the loss too, apparently]]]].
* HolyShitQuotient: Eggman vs. Wily, especially after [[spoiler:Metal Sonic decimates both of them.]]
* TheyJustDidntCare: Not in general, oh no. [[ShownTheirWork Death Battle pretty much always shows the research for all competitors.]] However, the now infamous Master Chief vs Doomguy battle sequence was ruthlessly picked apart by the fans, pointing out how the fight actually contradicted much of the facts about both characters shown earlier. Considering they actually did show their work just minutes ago, then promptly ignored a shockingly large amount of it, TheyJustDidntCare is the most logical explanation of why this happened, as well as to allow PopularityPower to prevail in the end in the fandom's eyes.

** [[spoiler: [[IronButtmonkey And survive the loss too, apparently]]]].

** In Shadow V.S. Vegeta, Super Shadow spent most of his time teleporting Super Saiyan Vegeta around via Chaos Control, which ultimately led to his undoing. If he hadn't wasted so much time on his Chaos Control, however...

*** [[spoiler:Bass' SuperMode is only used in a futile attempt to stop Metal Sonic from going OneWingedAngel, when he was probably the only Robot Master strong enough to take him on anyway.]]

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In Eggman VS Wily, [[spoiler:Mecha Knuckles gets even less done than ''[[JokeCharacter Scratch and Grounder]]'', getting barely ''two seconds'' of screen time before he gets destroyed by Guts Man.]] Worse, Mecha Sonic never gets to use his [[spoiler: GoldenSuperMode]].
** [[spoiler:Bass' SuperMode is only used in a futile attempt to stop Metal Sonic from going OneWingedAngel, when he was probably the only Robot Master strong enough to take him on anyway.]]

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: In Eggman VS Wily, [[spoiler:Mecha Knuckles gets even less done than ''[[JokeCharacter Scratch and Grounder]]'', getting barely ''two seconds'' of screen time before he gets destroyed by Guts Man.]] Worse, Mecha Sonic never gets to use his [[spoiler: GoldenSuperMode]].

* BrokenBase: By the show's very nature, it is essentially impossible to definitively confirm which character would win in a fight. Therefore, at least some fans protest the results of most fights, much like in Deadliest Warrior.

* By the show's very nature, it is essentially impossible to definitively confirm which character would win in a fight. Therefore, at least some fans protest the results of most fights, much like in Deadliest Warrior.