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Internet Backdraft is now Flame Bait and being dewicked per TRS.


* InternetBackdraft: Every single episode has this in some form, for varying reasons. As mentioned before, some people have legitimate complaints about historical accuracy, testing, and the way the warriors are represented. Others are just nerd raging.
** The "Spartan versus Ninja" episode provoked a lot of this.
** The claim in the first episode that Gladiators were specially trained to kill set the show on the wrong foot for some, since they were much closer to being very... ''aggressive'' actors--actual execution in combat was much rarer than pop culture made it out to be.
** The "IRA versus Taliban" episode also provoked a fair bit, with people accusing them of glorifying and/or exploiting terrorism. Since [[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity there's no such thing as bad publicity]], the show embraced the controversy and advertised the episode as "the most controversial episode yet."
*** However, every time they returned from commercial break, it came with a disclaimer denouncing both of their policies. They even made a donation that helps civilian victims of landmines.
** Host Max Geiger stated that the show would not attempt a Ninja vs Pirate episode because of this very reason.
** One of the most frequent pasttimes of viewers is to post reviews/responses on Website/YouTube that critique various claims made by the show, some attempting to debunk and others just ranting for some time.
** ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ssbgJ3D6cw George Washington vs. Napoleon Bonaparte]]'' caused such an upset that a lot of internet denizens actually accused the show of [[UsefulNotes/MisplacedNationalism having an American bias]]. Worth pointing out that Washington won by a margin of 0.6%, which is so small that any remotely reasonable human being would call it a tie. Though it naturally begs the question how a middling colonial revolutionary commander could tie with arguably the world's single most prominent strategician of the 18th and 19th centuries.
** This trope is a good part of the reason that episodes that pit controversial and bloodthirsty figures against one another, such as Al Capone v. Jesse James or Saddam Hussein v. Pol Pot have a very specific disclaimer explicitly stating that ''nobody'' is praising the subjects, only assessing them, and that anything that might be construed as praise is not endorsed by the producers or staff of the show.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After the show was criticised for glorifying terrorist and fascist warriors, the hosts made sure to state that they were not celebrating Saddam Hussein and Pol Pot during their mutual episode.
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* JumpedTheShark: Season 3 episode 10 could be considered this. While some of the previous matches were bending the definitions of "warrior" a bit (Yakuza v.s. Mafia, CIA v.s. KGB, etc.) the "warriors" in this episode do not fit most definitions of warriors and are not even human, let alone historical figures/peoples. When zombie survival guides are being brought in over "The Art of War", it looks like RuleofCool is trumping the rules. Not to mention this was the last episode before the show was cancelled.
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About fans and critics praising it such audiences think it doesn't measure up. Not just disappointment.


* HypeBacklash: Not in regards to the show itself, but after saying that they'd have BIG NEWS in three days, it turned out to be announcing season 3 next summer... which they'd already announced, just not officially.
** Another example might be the Vampires vs. Zombies match. Out of the thousands of replies on the Facebook page, the majority are flames and hate.

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** ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ssbgJ3D6cw George Washington vs. Napoleon Bonaparte]]'' caused such an upset that a lot of internet denizens actually accused the show of [[UsefulNotes/MisplacedNationalism having an American bias]]. Worth pointing out that Washington won by a margin of 0.6%, which is so small that any remotely reasonable human being would call it a tie.

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** ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ssbgJ3D6cw George Washington vs. Napoleon Bonaparte]]'' caused such an upset that a lot of internet denizens actually accused the show of [[UsefulNotes/MisplacedNationalism having an American bias]]. Worth pointing out that Washington won by a margin of 0.6%, which is so small that any remotely reasonable human being would call it a tie. Though it naturally begs the question how a middling colonial revolutionary commander could tie with arguably the world's single most prominent strategician of the 18th and 19th centuries.
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** ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ssbgJ3D6cw George Washington vs. Napoleon Bonaparte]]'' caused such an upset that a lot of internet denizens actually accused the show of [[MisplacedNationalism having an American bias]]. Worth pointing out that Washington won by a margin of 0.6%, which is so small that any remotely reasonable human being would call it a tie.

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** ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ssbgJ3D6cw George Washington vs. Napoleon Bonaparte]]'' caused such an upset that a lot of internet denizens actually accused the show of [[MisplacedNationalism [[UsefulNotes/MisplacedNationalism having an American bias]]. Worth pointing out that Washington won by a margin of 0.6%, which is so small that any remotely reasonable human being would call it a tie.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: There's an UsefulNotes/XboxLiveArcade game out that's based on the show, and while it's no challenger to ''VideoGame/SoulCalibur'''s throne ([[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-the-game it earned a 56 on Metacritic]]) it's a reasonably fun fighter that's reminiscent of the [=PS1=]-era classic ''BushidoBlade'' and better than expected. Its sequel, ''Dealiest Warrior: Legends,'' looked poised to avert the trope almost entirely... [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-legends but it ended up earning an identical Metacritic score.]]

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: There's an UsefulNotes/XboxLiveArcade game out that's based on the show, and while it's no challenger to ''VideoGame/SoulCalibur'''s throne ([[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-the-game it earned a 56 on Metacritic]]) it's a reasonably fun fighter that's reminiscent of the [=PS1=]-era classic ''BushidoBlade'' ''VideoGame/BushidoBlade'' and better than expected. Its sequel, ''Dealiest Warrior: Legends,'' looked poised to avert the trope almost entirely... [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-legends but it ended up earning an identical Metacritic score.]]
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: There's an XboxLiveArcade game out that's based on the show, and while it's no challenger to ''VideoGame/SoulCalibur'''s throne ([[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-the-game it earned a 56 on Metacritic]]) it's a reasonably fun fighter that's reminiscent of the [=PS1=]-era classic ''BushidoBlade'' and better than expected. Its sequel, ''Dealiest Warrior: Legends,'' looked poised to avert the trope almost entirely... [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-legends but it ended up earning an identical Metacritic score.]]

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: There's an XboxLiveArcade UsefulNotes/XboxLiveArcade game out that's based on the show, and while it's no challenger to ''VideoGame/SoulCalibur'''s throne ([[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-the-game it earned a 56 on Metacritic]]) it's a reasonably fun fighter that's reminiscent of the [=PS1=]-era classic ''BushidoBlade'' and better than expected. Its sequel, ''Dealiest Warrior: Legends,'' looked poised to avert the trope almost entirely... [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-legends but it ended up earning an identical Metacritic score.]]
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Any contemporary image of Hannibal clearly shows that he is not black. Also, Carthage is in North Africa, which is closer to Middle Eastern than Sub-Saharan African.


** As for the licensed game, ''Deadliest Warrior: Legends'', quite a lot of people complained about [[FanDumb Hannibal being black]]. Even though modern historians have no idea as to his race, and him being African [[FridgeBrilliance actually makes a little sense]] considering Carthage ''was in Africa''. That said, he was descended directly from Pheonician seafarers from what is now Lebanon, and any locals that his ancestors could have procreated with were ethnically Berber. That said, it's well known that Carthage had regular contact with black Africans, so who knows?
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* JumpedTheShark: Season 3 episode 10 could be considered this. While some of the previous matches were bending the definitions of "warrior" a bit (Yakuza v.s. Mafia, CIA v.s. KGB, etc.) the "warriors" in this episode do not fit most definitions of warriors and are not even human, let alone historical figures/peoples. When zombie survival guides are being brought in over "The Art of War", it looks like RuleofCool is trumping the rules. Not to mention this was the last episode before the show was cancelled.
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* FreudWasRight: Most of the Zande weapons in Aztec Jaguar vs Zande Warrior are purely phallic symbols and it is noted by Max and Geoff in the show.
** As a ShoutOut to the TropeNamer, when demonstrating the exploding cigar, the CIA expert quips, "Sometimes a cigar is ''not'' a cigar."
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: There's an XboxLiveArcade game out that's based on the show, and while it's no challenger to ''SoulCalibur'''s throne ([[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-the-game it earned a 56 on Metacritic]]) it's a reasonably fun fighter that's reminiscent of the [=PS1=]-era classic ''BushidoBlade'' and better than expected. Its sequel, ''Dealiest Warrior: Legends,'' looked poised to avert the trope almost entirely... [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-legends but it ended up earning an identical Metacritic score.]]

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: There's an XboxLiveArcade game out that's based on the show, and while it's no challenger to ''SoulCalibur'''s ''VideoGame/SoulCalibur'''s throne ([[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-the-game it earned a 56 on Metacritic]]) it's a reasonably fun fighter that's reminiscent of the [=PS1=]-era classic ''BushidoBlade'' and better than expected. Its sequel, ''Dealiest Warrior: Legends,'' looked poised to avert the trope almost entirely... [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-legends but it ended up earning an identical Metacritic score.]]
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: There's an XboxLiveArcade game out that's based on the show, and while it's no challenger to ''SoulCalibur'''s throne ([[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-the-game it earned a 56 on Metacritic]]) it's a reasonably fun fighter that's reminiscent of the PSOne-era classic ''BushidoBlade'' and better than expected. Its sequel, ''Dealiest Warrior: Legends,'' looked poised to avert the trope almost entirely... [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-legends but it ended up earning an identical Metacritic score.]]

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: There's an XboxLiveArcade game out that's based on the show, and while it's no challenger to ''SoulCalibur'''s throne ([[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-the-game it earned a 56 on Metacritic]]) it's a reasonably fun fighter that's reminiscent of the PSOne-era [=PS1=]-era classic ''BushidoBlade'' and better than expected. Its sequel, ''Dealiest Warrior: Legends,'' looked poised to avert the trope almost entirely... [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/deadliest-warrior-legends but it ended up earning an identical Metacritic score.]]
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* SnarkBait: The "state-of-art simulation", especially in the early seasons, where the audience is treated to a blurry shot of an Excel-like spreadsheet with a bunch of numbers on it.

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* SnarkBait: The "state-of-art "state-of-the-art simulation", especially in the early seasons, where the audience is treated to a blurry shot of an Excel-like spreadsheet with a bunch of numbers on it.
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* SnarkBait: The "state-of-art simulation", especially in the early seasons, where the audience is treated to a blurry shot of an Excel-like spreadsheet with a bunch of numbers on it.
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* TooGoodToLast: Or rather, too expensive to last.
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* JumpingTheShark: The ''Vampires vs. Zombies'' episode was seen as this by some fans.
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** Every time an [[{{Eagleland}} Amer]][[YanksWithTanks ican]] warrior wins. See TheScrappy. Since the ''Green Berets VS Spetznaz'' episode, which itself caused a lot of InternetBackdraft among American fans, American warriors have won in ''every single episode'' that they have been in. This suspicious winning streak has caused many people to denounce the show as mindless, nationalist chest-thumping and appeasing the American fanbase at the expense of everyone else. This is especially true for ''George Washington VS Napoleon Bonaparte'', which was an upset. To be honest though, most of it comes down to MisplacedNationalism and CulturalPosturing on the part of the American fans, and mindless America bashing on the part of the America haters, due to America's status as an AcceptableTarget for hatred these days.

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** Every time an [[{{Eagleland}} Amer]][[YanksWithTanks ican]] warrior wins. See TheScrappy. Since the ''Green Berets VS Spetznaz'' episode, which itself caused a lot of InternetBackdraft among American fans, American warriors have won in ''every single episode'' that they have been in. This suspicious winning streak has caused many people to denounce the show as mindless, nationalist chest-thumping and appeasing the American fanbase at the expense of everyone else. This is especially true for ''George ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ssbgJ3D6cw George Washington VS vs. Napoleon Bonaparte'', which was Bonaparte]]'' caused such an upset. To be honest though, most upset that a lot of it comes down to MisplacedNationalism and CulturalPosturing on internet denizens actually accused the part show of the [[MisplacedNationalism having an American fans, and mindless America bashing on the part bias]]. Worth pointing out that Washington won by a margin of the America haters, due to America's status as an AcceptableTarget for hatred these days.0.6%, which is so small that any remotely reasonable human being would call it a tie.
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* UnfortunateImplications: the show's format of presenting opposing sides, combined with the natural tendency to pick one, means that one can end up cheering for some pretty nasty characters, like UsefulNotes/VladTheImpaler, Saddam Hussien and the [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]]. Yay?
** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] by British TV critic CharlieBrooker:
--->'''Charlie:''' Come on Nazi, kill him...YES! YES! HOORAY FOR THE NAZIS! DEUTSCHLAND UBER ALLES! HURRAY, HURRAY FOR THE NAZIS, YES! ({{Beat}}) [[QuoteMine Please don't take this out of context and put it on YouTube]].
*** [[TemptingFate Guess]] [[http://youtu.be/oZ7QREWIkt8 what happened...]]
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** Geoff, with his obnoxiously loud countdowns and overly enthusiastic reactions to skills demonstrations, annoys many a viewer and causes ringing in a few ears.
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** There is some justification: the Vampires are ported straight from ''ThirtyDaysOfNight'', and are implied (during an OffWithHisHead moment) to have a still-functioning brain. They're also stated to have still-functioning hearts and circulatory systems, which would transport the virus to the brain. The brain is the zombie virus' favorite "food" so to speak, and the zombie's only remaining vital organ.

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** There is some justification: the Vampires are ported straight from ''ThirtyDaysOfNight'', ''ComicBook/ThirtyDaysOfNight'', and are implied (during an OffWithHisHead moment) to have a still-functioning brain. They're also stated to have still-functioning hearts and circulatory systems, which would transport the virus to the brain. The brain is the zombie virus' favorite "food" so to speak, and the zombie's only remaining vital organ.
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** The halberd, the Knight, Vlad the Impaler, and Hernan Cortez'[[note]]His was a Spanish variation called the Alabarda[[/note]] mid-range weapons. It devastated it's target in every test and was one of the few weapons to consistently dominate in the sim. [[spoiler:The one time it lost was when it was up against the Pirate's Blunderbuss, it's most effective firearm.]]

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** The halberd, the Knight, Vlad the Impaler, UsefulNotes/VladTheImpaler, and Hernan Cortez'[[note]]His was a Spanish variation called the Alabarda[[/note]] mid-range weapons. It devastated it's target in every test and was one of the few weapons to consistently dominate in the sim. [[spoiler:The one time it lost was when it was up against the Pirate's Blunderbuss, it's most effective firearm.]]



* UnfortunateImplications: the show's format of presenting opposing sides, combined with the natural tendency to pick one, means that one can end up cheering for some pretty nasty characters, like Vlad the Impaler, Saddam Hussien and the [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]]. Yay?

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* UnfortunateImplications: the show's format of presenting opposing sides, combined with the natural tendency to pick one, means that one can end up cheering for some pretty nasty characters, like Vlad the Impaler, UsefulNotes/VladTheImpaler, Saddam Hussien and the [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]]. Yay?
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some fans are very angry that they replaced Max Geiger with Richard Machowicz and got a new simulator in Season 3. It doesn't help that the first few episodes of the season featured shorter, less frequent weapon tests.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TheyChangedItNowItSucks[=/=]ToughActToFollow: Some fans are very angry that they replaced Max Geiger with Richard Machowicz and got a new simulator in Season 3. It doesn't help that the first few episodes of the season featured shorter, less frequent weapon tests.
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And what battle was that?


** Mr Collins did not do the research, did he... in a Real Life version of this showdown, the score was British Army 8, IRA nil...
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In Universe Examples Only, unpleasable fanbase is Flame Bait


* BrokenBase: Are the new Season 3 format and hosts better or worse? Also manages to get one after [[UnpleasableFanbase every single episode]], because of fans' arguing over whether the ending was right or not.

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* BrokenBase: Are the new Season 3 format and hosts better or worse? Also manages to get one after [[UnpleasableFanbase every single episode]], because of fans' arguing over whether the ending was right or not.



* GrowingTheBeard / JumpingTheShark: The show has gone through a nearly complete redesign. Season 3 seems to put more emphasis on comparing warrior battle tactics, with a new, apparently more accurate sim, which includes X-Factors by giving things like "Leadership" a numerical value. The show consults warrior experts to comment on battle tactics. The battle simulations are also run 5,000 times as opposed to 1,000. This seems to address some complaints about the secrecy regarding the simulations and the amount of testing done. On the other hand, other fans of the show want the ''less'' technical, Deadliest Warrior back, and hate the inclusion of X-Factors. It doesn't help that, on average, fewer weapons are being tested per warrior.

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* GrowingTheBeard / JumpingTheShark: GrowingTheBeard: The show has gone through a nearly complete redesign. Season 3 seems to put more emphasis on comparing warrior battle tactics, with a new, apparently more accurate sim, which includes X-Factors by giving things like "Leadership" a numerical value. The show consults warrior experts to comment on battle tactics. The battle simulations are also run 5,000 times as opposed to 1,000. This seems to address some complaints about the secrecy regarding the simulations and the amount of testing done. On the other hand, other fans of the show want the ''less'' technical, Deadliest Warrior back, and hate the inclusion of X-Factors. It doesn't help that, on average, fewer weapons are being tested per warrior.
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* IdiotBall: The Gladiator picked it up vs. the Apache. When Gladiator had Apache on the ground, he hit him a few times, then, instead of finishing him off, ''got off him'' and let the Apache get his knife into play for the win.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The Green Berets' criticism of the Spetsnaz (especially Matt's criticism of how unnecessarily brutal and dangerous their training is) sounds a lot more reasonable after Sonny Puzikas (who was one of the two Spetsnaz experts on the show) [[IJustShotMarvinInTheFace negligently shot]] [[http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/11/robert-farago/retraction-igotd-award-to-texas-defensive-shooting-academy/ a fellow instructor during a training exercise]] and seriously injured him.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The Green Berets' criticism of the Spetsnaz (especially Matt's criticism of how unnecessarily brutal and dangerous their training is) sounds a lot more reasonable after Sonny Puzikas (who was one of the two Spetsnaz experts on the show) [[IJustShotMarvinInTheFace negligently shot]] [[http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/11/robert-farago/retraction-igotd-award-to-texas-defensive-shooting-academy/ a fellow instructor during a training exercise]] and seriously injured him.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The Green Berets' criticism of the Spetsnaz sounds a lot more reasonable after Sonny Puzikas (who was one of the two Spetsnaz experts on the show) [[IJustShotMarvinInTheFace negligently shot]] [[http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/11/robert-farago/retraction-igotd-award-to-texas-defensive-shooting-academy/ a fellow instructor during a training exercise]] and seriously injured him.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The Green Berets' criticism of the Spetsnaz (especially Matt's criticism of how unnecessarily brutal and dangerous their training is) sounds a lot more reasonable after Sonny Puzikas (who was one of the two Spetsnaz experts on the show) [[IJustShotMarvinInTheFace negligently shot]] [[http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/11/robert-farago/retraction-igotd-award-to-texas-defensive-shooting-academy/ a fellow instructor during a training exercise]] and seriously injured him.
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** As for the licensed game, ''Deadliest Warrior: Legends'', quite a lot of people complained about [[FanDumb Hannibal being black]]. Even though modern historians have no idea as to his race, and him being African [[FridgeBrilliance actually makes a little sense]] considering Carthage ''was in Africa''.

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** As for the licensed game, ''Deadliest Warrior: Legends'', quite a lot of people complained about [[FanDumb Hannibal being black]]. Even though modern historians have no idea as to his race, and him being African [[FridgeBrilliance actually makes a little sense]] considering Carthage ''was in Africa''. That said, he was descended directly from Pheonician seafarers from what is now Lebanon, and any locals that his ancestors could have procreated with were ethnically Berber. That said, it's well known that Carthage had regular contact with black Africans, so who knows?
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** In the Aftermath with Richard Machowicz, Kieron Elliot states that Genghis Khan couldn't be an opponent for [[spoiler: Hannibal Barca]] because Genghis was represented by a generic Mongol in Season 2. [[spoiler: In a podcast for Season 3, Snake Blocker mentioned that the DW crew were looking for experts on Genghis Khan.]]

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** In the Aftermath with Richard Machowicz, Kieron Elliot states that Genghis Khan couldn't be an opponent for [[spoiler: Hannibal Barca]] because Genghis was represented by a generic Mongol in Season 2. [[spoiler: In a podcast for Season 3, Snake Blocker mentioned that the DW crew were looking for experts on Genghis Khan. Furthermore, three guesses who he faced.]]

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