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** He's done multiple year-end retrospectives of the most interesting examples involving him: one in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5m3xYLGnVM 2015]], one in 2017, one in 2018, and one in 2022.
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** He's done multiple year-end retrospectives of the most interesting examples involving him: one in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5m3xYLGnVM 2015]], one in 2016, one in 2017, one in 2018, and one in 2022. 2022.
* MisBlamed: In "THE PANIC ALARM", Dan tells the tale of how he was working at a store cleaning the underside of a desk when he saw a BigRedButton and, not knowing what it was, pushed it out of curiosity and ended up getting the store slapped with a £15'000 fine after his boss had to cancel the SWAT team coming over, as the aforementioned button was the store's panic alarm. Dan described it as "real serious business, actual money and 'Oh shit, the POLICE are involved serious business" and says it was his fault. In actuality, he is 100% wrong in regards to it being his fault; yes, he shouldn't have pushed the button if he didn't know what it did, but it was entirely the store's responsibility to tell him about it and what it was and thusly, had he known about it, the button would have never been pressed outside of the occasions of an actual robbery or, since the button was uncovered, being pushed accidentally.
* MisBlamed: In "THE PANIC ALARM", Dan tells the tale of how he was working at a store cleaning the underside of a desk when he saw a BigRedButton and, not knowing what it was, pushed it out of curiosity and ended up getting the store slapped with a £15'000 fine after his boss had to cancel the SWAT team coming over, as the aforementioned button was the store's panic alarm. Dan described it as "real serious business, actual money and 'Oh shit, the POLICE are involved serious business" and says it was his fault. In actuality, he is 100% wrong in regards to it being his fault; yes, he shouldn't have pushed the button if he didn't know what it did, but it was entirely the store's responsibility to tell him about it and what it was and thusly, had he known about it, the button would have never been pressed outside of the occasions of an actual robbery or, since the button was uncovered, being pushed accidentally.
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** Dan's friendship with Phil, they are inseparable and Phil was the first person who made Dan feel genuinely safe and comfortable to be himself.
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** Dan's friendship connection with Phil, they Phil. They are inseparable and Phil was the first person who made Dan feel genuinely safe and comfortable to be himself.
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** He's done a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5m3xYLGnVM year-end retrospective]] of the most interesting examples involving him. Make that two as of 2017, and three as of 2018.
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** He's done a multiple year-end retrospectives of the most interesting examples involving him: one in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5m3xYLGnVM year-end retrospective]] of the most interesting examples involving him. Make that two as of 2015]], one in 2017, one in 2018, and three as of 2018.one in 2022.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: HarsherInHindsight: Several;
** Dan's allusions and jokes about having a rough time in school become ''very'' uncomfortable after you watch "Basically I'm Gay," in which he reveals the bullying was way, ''way'' more serious than he initially let on, and even genuinely dangerous and extremely bad for his mental health a lot of the time -- to the point where he attempted to take his own life.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Several;
** Dan's allusions and jokes about having a rough time in school become ''very'' uncomfortable after you watch "Basically I'm Gay," in which he reveals the bullying was way, ''way'' more serious than he initially let on, and even genuinely dangerous and extremely bad for his mental health a lot of the time -- to the point where he attempted to take his own life.
** Dan's allusions and jokes about having a rough time in school become ''very'' uncomfortable after you watch "Basically I'm Gay," in which he reveals the bullying was way, ''way'' more serious than he initially let on, and even genuinely dangerous and extremely bad for his mental health a lot of the time -- to the point where he attempted to take his own life.
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** Dan's content partnered with [=YouTube=] after posting "Basically I'm Gay" takes on a more sad or sour note after "Why I Quit [=YouTube=]" revealed said content had to be made due to conditions [=YouTube=] imposed on him to earn production on an unconventional series through them...a series which got rejected a second time, even after he met their demands and made content through their terms, and would never be viable through [=YouTube=] after the announcement that their production program would shut down.
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* FanHater: Several people have distaste for fans of Dan and Phil, due to their omnipresence, general obsessiveness, and in many cases, missing the goal of the videos, instead treating the creators like they were teen idols. Dan himself does not hate his fanbase, but he's not afraid to poke fun at or even scold members of the group who are more obsessive or "like boys with brown hair but don't pay attention to my pesky personality".
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: "Basically I'm Gay" comes across this way, with several strong points being made (paraphrased here).
** Digging through someone's life and tracking down their details just to fulfill your narrative about them or answer your petty questions is unhealthy and scary. Dan has gone against his more obsessive fans before, but in this video, mentions that his online following felt threatening to him once they started speculating about his sexuality, and only made him feel more insecure.
** While some people may not feel the need for labels, others do, and that's okay. Dan says he feels comfortable without the need for labels, but makes it clear that the ever-growing list of identities and sexualities being declared can be genuinely very helpful to somebody who just needs a term that connects with them to help them accept themselves.
** Even if you had suspicions about someone's non-heterosexuality, don't reduce their struggle to come out by saying "we knew" after they do so. It doesn't validate the person who has been scared to bring it up, and it sounds objectifying and selfish because you're treating their struggle like a game that you've won. Dan also notes that stereotyping, while sometimes accurate, is still a problem as well as self-oppression.
** Coming out is far more difficult than others might think, and shouldn't be a source of pressure. A person's sexuality shouldn't be their defining quality, so let them come out naturally and on their own terms. Don't force them to present themselves as something they're not and don't force them to come out or try to steal their moment by telling everyone for them.
** Digging through someone's life and tracking down their details just to fulfill your narrative about them or answer your petty questions is unhealthy and scary. Dan has gone against his more obsessive fans before, but in this video, mentions that his online following felt threatening to him once they started speculating about his sexuality, and only made him feel more insecure.
** While some people may not feel the need for labels, others do, and that's okay. Dan says he feels comfortable without the need for labels, but makes it clear that the ever-growing list of identities and sexualities being declared can be genuinely very helpful to somebody who just needs a term that connects with them to help them accept themselves.
** Even if you had suspicions about someone's non-heterosexuality, don't reduce their struggle to come out by saying "we knew" after they do so. It doesn't validate the person who has been scared to bring it up, and it sounds objectifying and selfish because you're treating their struggle like a game that you've won. Dan also notes that stereotyping, while sometimes accurate, is still a problem as well as self-oppression.
** Coming out is far more difficult than others might think, and shouldn't be a source of pressure. A person's sexuality shouldn't be their defining quality, so let them come out naturally and on their own terms. Don't force them to present themselves as something they're not and don't force them to come out or try to steal their moment by telling everyone for them.
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** Even if you had suspicions about someone's non-heterosexuality, don't reduce their struggle to come out by saying "we knew" after they do so. It doesn't validate the person who has been scared to bring it up, and it sounds selfish because you're treating it like a game you won. Dan also notes that stereotyping, while sometimes accurate, is still a problem.
** Coming out is far more difficult than others might think, and shouldn't be a source of pressure. A person's sexuality shouldn't be their defining quality, let them come out naturally and on their own terms. Don't force them to be something they're not and don't force them to come out. Self-oppression is a genuine problem that people face.
** Coming out is far more difficult than others might think, and shouldn't be a source of pressure. A person's sexuality shouldn't be their defining quality, let them come out naturally and on their own terms. Don't force them to be something they're not and don't force them to come out. Self-oppression is a genuine problem that people face.
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** Even if you had suspicions about someone's non-heterosexuality, don't reduce their struggle to come out by saying "we knew" after they do so. It doesn't validate the person who has been scared to bring it up, and it sounds objectifying and selfish because you're treating it their struggle like a game you that you've won. Dan also notes that stereotyping, while sometimes accurate, is still a problem.
problem as well as self-oppression.
** Coming out is far more difficult than others might think, and shouldn't be a source of pressure. A person's sexuality shouldn't be their defining quality, so let them come out naturally and on their own terms. Don't force them tobe present themselves as something they're not and don't force them to come out. Self-oppression is a genuine problem that people face.out or try to steal their moment by telling everyone for them.
** Coming out is far more difficult than others might think, and shouldn't be a source of pressure. A person's sexuality shouldn't be their defining quality, so let them come out naturally and on their own terms. Don't force them to
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More difficult than what usually is?
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** Digging through someone's life and tracking down their details just to fulfil your narrative about them or answer your petty questions is unhealthy and scary. Dan has gone against his more obsessive fans before, but in this video, mentions that his online following felt threatening to him once they started speculating about his sexuality, and only made him feel more insecure.
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** Digging through someone's life and tracking down their details just to fulfil fulfill your narrative about them or answer your petty questions is unhealthy and scary. Dan has gone against his more obsessive fans before, but in this video, mentions that his online following felt threatening to him once they started speculating about his sexuality, and only made him feel more insecure.
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** Coming out is far more difficult than it usually is. A person's sexuality shouldn't be their defining quality, let them come out naturally and on their own terms. Don't force them to be something they're not and don't force them to come out. Self-oppression is a genuine problem that people face.
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** Coming out is far more difficult than it usually is.others might think, and shouldn't be a source of pressure. A person's sexuality shouldn't be their defining quality, let them come out naturally and on their own terms. Don't force them to be something they're not and don't force them to come out. Self-oppression is a genuine problem that people face.
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Sorry, I didn't clarify what I meant. I didn't mean Dan was homophobic, I mean't it was very similar to his own experiences.
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** In his "Internet Support Group" videos, a fan wrote in about the time she found her uncle on Grindr with her friends, she didn't identify her uncle to her friends and she didn't know that he was LGBT. Daniel's response was to tell her to keep it a secret from her friends, don't investigate his profile and question whether or not she should talk to her uncle about it. This parallels one of the sources of Dan's bullying since he was very open about his sexuality online, causing his school bullies to eventually discover the information and torture him.
