History YMMV / CruelIntentions

26th Jun '16 10:52:20 PM 10-13-2
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** Also, [[spoiler: Kathryn's [[CryForTheDevil defeat]], though deserved, is still sad due to her [[TearsOfRemorse reaction]]. Even one of the people in the filmmakers' DVD commentary calls the scene "so heart-wrenching."]]

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** Also, [[spoiler: Kathryn's [[CryForTheDevil defeat]], though deserved, is still sad due to her [[TearsOfRemorse reaction]]. Even one of the people in the filmmakers' DVD commentary calls the scene "so heart-wrenching."]]"]]
* TwoDecadesBehind: Okay, so this is based on an 18th-century French novel. But it obviously takes place in the modern day (late 1990s) given [[SorryILeftTheBGMOn the music heard on the (in-universe) soundtrack]] and the technology present, which makes the elitist and borderline reclusive behavior of the upper-class characters - not commonly seen in American society since the mid-1950s or so - come off as slightly anachronistic. Not to mention Mrs. Caldwell's [[MalignedMixedMarriage disgust at race-mixing]], which is especially out of character for a sophisticated New Yorker in the late twentieth century.
29th Mar '16 11:04:07 AM overman2099
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** Mrs. Caldwell. Racist elitist snob or concerned mother who truly did want to protect her daughter and other young girls from being taken advantage of by cads like Sebastian and older men like Ronald? While not the most pleasant character in the film, she was actually the one who warned Annette about Sebastian's womanizing ways and regardless of race, just about ANY parent would be furious to see their teenage daughter being seduced by a music teacher. It didn't help Sebastian's case that until his HeelFaceTurn where he genuinely fell in love with Annette, he was every bit the manipulative bastard Mrs. Caldwell thought he was. It really didn't help Ronald's case that as Cecile's music teacher, he was very likely older than her, in addition to the fact that despite supposedly being in love with Cecile, Ronald really didn't seem to mind going bed-hopping with other girls like Kathryn.
28th Mar '16 12:18:39 AM overman2099
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: While Cecile's mom may have been racist against Ronald, she still brought up a good point about how she helped him out by hiring him while he repays her by romancing her daughter. From her point of view, she genuinely saw it as a stab in the back that he would do something like that and she felt taken advantage of as a result. Plus, even if the race factor were removed, the fact remains that Cecile was a young teenage girl still in high school while Ronald, as her music teacher, appeared to be older than high school age, considering how he was qualified enough to be a music instructor.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: While Cecile's mom may have been racist against Ronald, she still brought up a good point about how she helped him out by hiring him while he repays her by romancing her daughter. From her point of view, she genuinely saw it as a stab in the back that he would do something like that and she felt taken advantage of as a result. Plus, even if the race factor were removed, the fact remains that Cecile was a young teenage girl still in high school while Ronald, as her music teacher, appeared to be older than high school age, considering how he was qualified enough to be a music instructor. Plus it really didn't help Ronald's case that he was trying to have sex with Kathryn despite supposedly being in love with Cecile, making Cecil's mom look like she was right in retrospect to be wary of Ronald being around her daughter.
27th Mar '16 11:51:06 PM overman2099
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* NeverLiveItDown: [[spoiler: Ronald basically killed Sebastian]], at least how fans see it.

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* NeverLiveItDown: [[spoiler: Ronald basically killed Sebastian]], at least how fans see it. Though, given how the French novel that Cruel Intentions was based on went down, it really couldn't have ended any other way.


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* StrawmanHasAPoint: While Cecile's mom may have been racist against Ronald, she still brought up a good point about how she helped him out by hiring him while he repays her by romancing her daughter. From her point of view, she genuinely saw it as a stab in the back that he would do something like that and she felt taken advantage of as a result. Plus, even if the race factor were removed, the fact remains that Cecile was a young teenage girl still in high school while Ronald, as her music teacher, appeared to be older than high school age, considering how he was qualified enough to be a music instructor.
4th Mar '16 10:13:37 AM ANewMan
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Kathryn's FreudianExcuse MotiveRant about society's DoubleStandards toward women in comparison to men in regards to sex.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Kathryn's FreudianExcuse MotiveRant about society's DoubleStandards [[DoubleStandard double standards]] toward women in comparison to men in regards to sex.
4th Mar '16 10:12:56 AM ANewMan
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Kathryn's FreudianExcuse MotiveRant about society's DoubleStandards toward women in comparison to men in regards to sex.
12th Feb '16 8:14:45 PM BronyoftheOctaves
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* NeverLiveItDown: [[spoiler: Ronald basically killed Sebastian]], at least how fans see it.
6th Feb '16 5:20:00 PM DawnBTVS
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* HilariousInHindsight: Fans of Series/{{Buffy|The Vampire Slayer}} might be a bit disturbed at seeing the actress play a mega bitch, until we get to the final two seasons.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Fans of Series/{{Buffy|The Vampire Slayer}} might be a bit disturbed at seeing the actress play a mega bitch, until we get to the final two seasons. Made better considering Sarah Michelle Gellar auditioned for the role of Cordelia initially, making this a window into what she could have done with that role instead.
21st Jan '16 11:19:53 AM Nicole_Ilieva
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* Cult Classic

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* Cult ClassicCultClassic
21st Jan '16 11:19:30 AM Nicole_Ilieva
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* Cult Classic
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