History YMMV / CruelIntentions

23rd Aug '16 9:00:54 PM overman2099
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* ValuesDissonance: As pointed out by WebVideo/NeedsMoreGay, the film was released in that weird transitory period where it's very hard to tell if the homophobic lines from certain characters are supposed to make them look bad, or are just something considered more acceptable at the time.

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* ValuesDissonance: As pointed out by WebVideo/NeedsMoreGay, the film was released in that weird transitory period where it's very hard to tell if the homophobic lines from certain characters are supposed to make them look bad, or are just something considered more acceptable at the time. Though, considering how the issue of LGBT rights wouldn't completely gain more traction until the early to mid 2000s, it's more likely that Sebastian's gay slurs were simply a reflection of the 1990s, an era where homosexuality was much less acceptable than it is now.
16th Jul '16 4:47:40 PM annette12
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Sebastian and Kathryn for quite a good number of viewers. Though some will cheer them on [[RootingForTheEmpire even knowing what evil bastards they are.]]

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* DracoInLeatherPants: DracoInLeatherPants:
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Sebastian and Kathryn for quite a good number of viewers. Though some will cheer them on [[RootingForTheEmpire even knowing what evil bastards they are.]]]]



* PlayingAgainstType: [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy Summers]] plays Kathryn.
** ... Unless you knew her as [[Series/AllMyChildren Kendall]] first, in which case it's returning to type.
** And Pacey Witter from Series/DawsonsCreek playing CampGay Blaine.

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* PlayingAgainstType: PlayingAgainstType:
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[[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy Summers]] plays Kathryn.
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Kathryn. Unless you knew her as [[Series/AllMyChildren Kendall]] first, in which case it's returning to type.
** And Pacey Witter from Series/DawsonsCreek playing CampGay Blaine.
16th Jul '16 4:44:24 PM annette12
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* EvilIsCool and [[EvilIsSexy Sexy]]: Kathryn and Sebastian.

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* EvilIsCool and [[EvilIsSexy Sexy]]: EvilIsCool: Kathryn and Sebastian.



* [[HoYay Les Yay]]: Kathryn and Cecile, in a creepy, manipulative way on Kathryn's part. There was also Kathryn and Annette in the original ending, in a creepy, manipulative way on ''Annette's'' part.

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* [[HoYay Les Yay]]: LesYay: Kathryn and Cecile, in a creepy, manipulative way on Kathryn's part. There was also Kathryn and Annette in the original ending, in a creepy, manipulative way on ''Annette's'' part.



** And [[JoshuaJackson Pacey Witter]] from DawsonsCreek playing CampGay DeadpanSnarker Blaine.

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** And [[JoshuaJackson Pacey Witter]] Witter from DawsonsCreek Series/DawsonsCreek playing CampGay DeadpanSnarker Blaine.
11th Jul '16 7:30:49 PM Isaac_Heller
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* ValuesDissonance: As pointed out by WebVideo/NeedsMoreGay, the film was released in that weird transitory period where it's very hard to tell if the homophobic lines from certain characters are supposed to make them look bad, or are just something considered more acceptable at the time.

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* ValuesDissonance: As pointed out by WebVideo/NeedsMoreGay, the film was released in that weird transitory period where it's very hard to tell if the homophobic lines from certain characters are supposed to make them look bad, or are just something considered more acceptable at the time.time.
** Similarly, he points out that Sebastian is supposed to be more sympathetic and likable than his literary counterpart, but that his act of sex toward Cecile ''still'' qualifies as rape, and that society has become more of acknowledging of this in the past fifteen years.
11th Jul '16 7:23:20 PM Isaac_Heller
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* CryForTheDevil: [[spoiler: Annette knows that Kathryn is ultimately responsible for Sebastian's death through what she read in Sebastian's journal. Many photocopies of it are then made and Anette gets Cecile to distribute it to the other students at school. Kathryn is delivering a eulogy for Sebastian in the chapel when someone enters the church and quietly lets the higher-ups know what is going on. Everyone begins to exit the chapel, prompting an outraged rant from the normally composed Kathryn. She storms out, demanding an explanation....and soon comes to realize that everyone now knows the whole truth about her. As she stands in shock, the school's headmaster comes up behind her and detaches the crucifix from her necklace....causing a trail of cocaine to spill out. This prompts tears of shame from Kathryn to end the movie on a BittersweetEnding/DownerEnding. (Though granted, [[KickTheSonOfABitch she had it coming.]] ]]

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* CryForTheDevil: [[spoiler: Annette knows that Kathryn is ultimately responsible for Sebastian's death through what she read in Sebastian's journal. Many photocopies of it are then made and Anette gets Cecile to distribute it to the other students at school. Kathryn is delivering a eulogy for Sebastian in the chapel when someone enters the church and quietly lets the higher-ups know what is going on. Everyone begins to exit the chapel, prompting an outraged rant from the normally composed Kathryn. She storms out, demanding an explanation....and soon comes to realize that everyone now knows the whole truth about her. As she stands in shock, the school's headmaster comes up behind her and detaches the crucifix from her necklace....causing a trail of cocaine to spill out. This prompts tears of shame from Kathryn to end the movie on a BittersweetEnding/DownerEnding. (Though sad note. Though granted, [[KickTheSonOfABitch she had it coming.]] ]]
10th Jul '16 12:44:45 PM Anddrix
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Let's just say this: Had a film concept like this been pitched in the 1930s, '40s, or much of the '50s, the HaysCode would have rejected it out of hand. For it not only features all three varieties of the "impure love" referred to in that document - incest, homosexuality, and miscegenation - but portrays the latter (mostly) positively. ''And'' [[ThinkOfTheChildren a bunch of kids engaging in all this]]! Yet the [[{{Camp}} soap-opera tenor]] of the piece manages to make it all delightfully funny. [[spoiler: Of course, then it crosses the line a ''third'' time, and things get ugly.]]
10th Jul '16 7:19:11 AM TheNerfGuy
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* CultClassic

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%%* CultClassic
* CultClassicDarknessInducedAudienceApathy: By the end of the film no one has really done anything heroic except for [[spoiler: Sebastian, and he's dead]]. And nobody looks all that happy, either - not even the characters who "won."



* ValuesDissonance: As pointed out by WebVideo/NeedsMoreGay, the film was released in that weird transitory period where it's very hard to tell if the homophobic lines from certain characters are supposed to make them look bad, or are just something considered more acceptable at the time.
* YouBastard: Boy does this movie drop a ''huge'' one on you at the end. [[Spoiler: Think about it: you've sat through this entire nasty film watching Kathryn (either through her own efforts or through the actions of her minions) ruin no less than five people's lives (and arguably more if you count Ronald, Mrs. Greenbaum, etc.) and [[KarmaHoudini get no comeuppance for it]] except for Sebastian (weakly) turning against her. Oh how you thirst for her humiliation; it's the only thing that will cheer you up after all this misery. Well, in the final scene, you finally get your wish...and it's no fun at all. You suddenly feel sorry for this monster, and then you feel angry because you ''don't'' want to feel sorry for her. And then you realize that - even if only vicariously - you wanted to ruin someone's life because of spiteful feelings toward her, and therefore ''[[HeWhoFightsMonsters you are just like Kathryn yourself]]''.]]

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* ValuesDissonance: As pointed out by WebVideo/NeedsMoreGay, the film was released in that weird transitory period where it's very hard to tell if the homophobic lines from certain characters are supposed to make them look bad, or are just something considered more acceptable at the time.
* YouBastard: Boy does this movie drop a ''huge'' one on you at the end. [[Spoiler: Think about it: you've sat through this entire nasty film watching Kathryn (either through her own efforts or through the actions of her minions) ruin no less than five people's lives (and arguably more if you count Ronald, Mrs. Greenbaum, etc.) and [[KarmaHoudini get no comeuppance for it]] except for Sebastian (weakly) turning against her. Oh how you thirst for her humiliation; it's the only thing that will cheer you up after all this misery. Well, in the final scene, you finally get your wish...and it's no fun at all. You suddenly feel sorry for this monster, and then you feel angry because you ''don't'' want to feel sorry for her. And then you realize that - even if only vicariously - you wanted to ruin someone's life because of spiteful feelings toward her, and therefore ''[[HeWhoFightsMonsters you are just like Kathryn yourself]]''.]]
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* ValuesDissonance: As pointed out by WebVideo/NeedsMoreGay, the film was released in that weird transitory period where it's very hard to tell if the homophobic lines from certain characters are supposed to make them look bad, or are just something considered more acceptable at the time.

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* ValuesDissonance: As pointed out by WebVideo/NeedsMoreGay, the film was released in that weird transitory period where it's very hard to tell if the homophobic lines from certain characters are supposed to make them look bad, or are just something considered more acceptable at the time.time.
* YouBastard: Boy does this movie drop a ''huge'' one on you at the end. [[Spoiler: Think about it: you've sat through this entire nasty film watching Kathryn (either through her own efforts or through the actions of her minions) ruin no less than five people's lives (and arguably more if you count Ronald, Mrs. Greenbaum, etc.) and [[KarmaHoudini get no comeuppance for it]] except for Sebastian (weakly) turning against her. Oh how you thirst for her humiliation; it's the only thing that will cheer you up after all this misery. Well, in the final scene, you finally get your wish...and it's no fun at all. You suddenly feel sorry for this monster, and then you feel angry because you ''don't'' want to feel sorry for her. And then you realize that - even if only vicariously - you wanted to ruin someone's life because of spiteful feelings toward her, and therefore ''[[HeWhoFightsMonsters you are just like Kathryn yourself]]''.]]
7th Jul '16 9:51:35 AM Pren
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* TwoDecadesBehind: Okay, so this is based on an 18th-century French novel. But it obviously takes place in the modern day (late 1990s) given [[SorryILeftTheBGMOn the music heard on the (in-universe) soundtrack]] and the technology present, which makes the elitist and borderline reclusive behavior of the upper-class characters - not commonly seen in American society since the mid-1950s or so - come off as slightly anachronistic. Not to mention Mrs. Caldwell's [[MalignedMixedMarriage disgust at race-mixing]], which is especially out of character for a sophisticated New Yorker in the late twentieth century.

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* TwoDecadesBehind: Okay, so this is based on an 18th-century French novel. But it obviously takes place in the modern day (late 1990s) given [[SorryILeftTheBGMOn the music heard on the (in-universe) soundtrack]] and the technology present, which makes the elitist and borderline reclusive behavior of the upper-class characters - not commonly seen in American society since the mid-1950s or so - come off as slightly anachronistic. Not to mention Mrs. Caldwell's [[MalignedMixedMarriage disgust at race-mixing]], which is especially out of character for a sophisticated New Yorker in the late twentieth century.century.
* ValuesDissonance: As pointed out by WebVideo/NeedsMoreGay, the film was released in that weird transitory period where it's very hard to tell if the homophobic lines from certain characters are supposed to make them look bad, or are just something considered more acceptable at the time.
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