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** Nathan takes his daughter Jade on an upscale dinner date, and gives her a ring that is meant to symbolize his commitment to being the best dad he can be... up to and including "approving any young man who desires to have more than a friendship with you," because "One day I'll give you away to another man, and I want that man to love God more than anything. This leads to Nathan giving her a promise ring, and the setup has so many (hopefully) unintentional parallels to a marriage proposal that it feels like an incestuous parody of overprotective fatherhood, but it's played totally straight.
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** Nathan takes his daughter Jade on an upscale dinner date, and gives her a ring that is meant to symbolize his commitment to being the best dad he can be... up to and including "approving any young man who desires to have more than a friendship with you," because "One day I'll give you away to another man, and I want that man to love God more than anything. This leads to Nathan giving her a promise ring, and the setup has so many (hopefully) unintentional parallels to a marriage proposal that it feels like an incestuous parody of overprotective fatherhood, but it's played totally straight. Even stranger is that Jade is completely honored by this and stares lovingly at her ring in the next scene in a way that seems comically opposed to a typical teen girl's reaction to such an event.
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* {{Narm}}: Nathan takes his daughter Jade on an upscale dinner date, and gives her a ring that is meant to symbolize his commitment to being the best dad he can be... up to and including "approving any young man who desires to have more than a friendship with you," because "One day I'll give you away to another man, and I want that man to love God more than anything. This leads to Nathan giving her a promise ring, and the setup has so many (hopefully) unintentional parallels to a marriage proposal that it feels like an incestuous parody of overprotective fatherhood, but it's played totally straight.
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** The dramatic dialogue between Nathan and David on why they need to atone for their sins and be better fathers takes quite a turn when Nathan uses a court-to-Heaven allegory, comparing David being a DisappearedDad to somebody ''murdering David's mother.'' The severity of the comparison and the all around MoodWhiplash is too ridiculous for the drama to truly hit hard.
--->'''Nathan''': Who's the person you're closest to?\\
'''David''': Probably my mom.\\
'''Nathan''': Okay. Suppose she was ''brutally attacked and murdered in a parking lot.'' The guy was caught and put on trial. But he says, "Hey, judge, I committed this crime, but I've done a lot of good in my life." If the judge let him go free, would you say he was a good or a bad judge?\\
'''David''': A bad one.
** Nathan takes his daughter Jade on an upscale dinner date, and gives her a ring that is meant to symbolize his commitment to being the best dad he can be... up to and including "approving any young man who desires to have more than a friendship with you," because "One day I'll give you away to another man, and I want that man to love God more than anything. This leads to Nathan giving her a promise ring, and the setup has so many (hopefully) unintentional parallels to a marriage proposal that it feels like an incestuous parody of overprotective fatherhood, but it's played totally straight.
** The dramatic dialogue between Nathan and David on why they need to atone for their sins and be better fathers takes quite a turn when Nathan uses a court-to-Heaven allegory, comparing David being a DisappearedDad to somebody ''murdering David's mother.'' The severity of the comparison and the all around MoodWhiplash is too ridiculous for the drama to truly hit hard.
--->'''Nathan''': Who's the person you're closest to?\\
'''David''': Probably my mom.\\
'''Nathan''': Okay. Suppose she was ''brutally attacked and murdered in a parking lot.'' The guy was caught and put on trial. But he says, "Hey, judge, I committed this crime, but I've done a lot of good in my life." If the judge let him go free, would you say he was a good or a bad judge?\\
'''David''': A bad one.
** Nathan takes his daughter Jade on an upscale dinner date, and gives her a ring that is meant to symbolize his commitment to being the best dad he can be... up to and including "approving any young man who desires to have more than a friendship with you," because "One day I'll give you away to another man, and I want that man to love God more than anything. This leads to Nathan giving her a promise ring, and the setup has so many (hopefully) unintentional parallels to a marriage proposal that it feels like an incestuous parody of overprotective fatherhood, but it's played totally straight.
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* {{Narm}}: Nathan takes his daughter Jade on an upscale dinner date, and gives her a ring that is meant to symbolize his commitment to being the best dad he can be... up to and including "approving any young man who desires to have more than a friendship with you," because "One day I'll give you away to another man, and l I want that man to love God more than anything. This leads to Nathan giving her a promise ring, and the following:setup has so many (hopefully) unintentional parallels to a marriage proposal that it feels like an incestuous parody of overprotective fatherhood, but it's played totally straight.
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** Even in the context of the movie, this is at best Narm if not {{Squick}}.
* TearJerker: [[spoiler: When Adam Mitchell's daughter dies.]] If you're a Christian, this scene might hit even harder since [[spoiler: after Shane explains to Adam exactly what happened, Adam says "Oh God help my daughter!"…and then she STILL dies. This leads into a series of scenes of the family grieving and then into a conversation between Adam and his wife where she tearfully talks about how "I'm in a black hole and I don't know where the way out is" (paraphrased). Many Christians can relate to unanswered prayers causing horrible pain.]]
* TearJerker: [[spoiler: When Adam Mitchell's daughter dies.]] If you're a Christian, this scene might hit even harder since [[spoiler: after Shane explains to Adam exactly what happened, Adam says "Oh God help my daughter!"…and then she STILL dies. This leads into a series of scenes of the family grieving and then into a conversation between Adam and his wife where she tearfully talks about how "I'm in a black hole and I don't know where the way out is" (paraphrased). Many Christians can relate to unanswered prayers causing horrible pain.]]
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: When Adam Mitchell's daughter dies.]] If you're a Christian, this scene might hit even harder since [[spoiler: after Shane explains to Adam exactly what happened, Adam says "Oh God help my
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* GrowingTheBeard: To a greater extent than ''Film/FacingTheGiants''; this film is regarded as a large step in "Christian cinema" being taken seriously, both in production values and content.
* GrowingTheBeard: To a greater extent than ''Film/FacingTheGiants''; this film is regarded as a large step in "Christian cinema" being taken seriously, both in production values and content.
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* GrowingTheBeard: To a greater extent than ''Film/FacingTheGiants''; this film is regarded as a large step in "Christian cinema" being taken seriously, both in production values and content.
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The rules about Critical Dissonance say not to use the Rotten Tomatoes user score.
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* CriticalDissonance: The film received a 36% rating from critics on Rotten Tomatoes. The audience rating is 86%. It should be noted most of the critics reviewed this film, which is targeted to Christians, in a secular perspective.
* CriticalDissonance: The film received a 36% rating from critics on Rotten Tomatoes. The audience rating is 86%. It should be noted most of the critics reviewed this film, which is targeted to Christians, in a secular perspective.
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*** Nathan: Jade, will you give me your left hand, please?
*** Jade: Daddy, is this real?
*** Nathan: Yes, it is. This is meant to be worn until it's replaced by your wedding ring.
*** Jade: Daddy, is this real?
*** Nathan: Yes, it is. This is meant to be worn until it's replaced by your wedding ring.
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: When Adam Mitchell's daughter dies.]]
** If you're a Christian, this scene might hit even harder since [[spoiler: after Shane explains to Adam exactly what happened, Adam says "Oh God help my daughter!"…and then she STILL dies. This leads into a series of scenes of the family grieving and then into a conversation between Adam and his wife where she tearfully talks about how "I'm in a black hole and I don't know where the way out is" (paraphrased). Many Christians can relate to unanswered prayers causing horrible pain.]]
*** Another way to look at "unanswered" prayers is that they simply don't get the answer you want, i.e. the answer you want is 'yes' and the answer you get is either 'no' or 'wait' (the prayer isn't answered on your preferred timetable).
** If you're a Christian, this scene might hit even harder since [[spoiler: after Shane explains to Adam exactly what happened, Adam says "Oh God help my daughter!"…and then she STILL dies. This leads into a series of scenes of the family grieving and then into a conversation between Adam and his wife where she tearfully talks about how "I'm in a black hole and I don't know where the way out is" (paraphrased). Many Christians can relate to unanswered prayers causing horrible pain.]]
*** Another way to look at "unanswered" prayers is that they simply don't get the answer you want, i.e. the answer you want is 'yes' and the answer you get is either 'no' or 'wait' (the prayer isn't answered on your preferred timetable).
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: When Adam Mitchell's daughter dies.]]
**]] If you're a Christian, this scene might hit even harder since [[spoiler: after Shane explains to Adam exactly what happened, Adam says "Oh God help my daughter!"…and then she STILL dies. This leads into a series of scenes of the family grieving and then into a conversation between Adam and his wife where she tearfully talks about how "I'm in a black hole and I don't know where the way out is" (paraphrased). Many Christians can relate to unanswered prayers causing horrible pain.]]
*** Another way to look at "unanswered" prayers is that they simply don't get the answer you want, i.e. the answer you want is 'yes' and the answer you get is either 'no' or 'wait' (the prayer isn't answered on your preferred timetable).]]
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*** Another way to look at "unanswered" prayers is that they simply don't get the answer you want, i.e. the answer you want is 'yes' and the answer you get is either 'no' or 'wait' (the prayer isn't answered on your preferred timetable).
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My family has a DVD of this movie in which a family gave to them after my first brother drowned and died. :( It was kept in plastic wrap until today, since we aren't religious. I might watch this movie sometime.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: When Javier chooses to say that he will not fudge numbers for his boss. He struggled mightily because he fully expected to lose a job he desperately needed to provide for his family but in the end, he decided to be a man of honor that his children could respect...and is promoted for his honesty.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: When Javier chooses to say that he will not fudge numbers for his boss. He struggled mightily because he fully expected to lose a job he desperately needed to provide for his family but in the end, he decided to be a man of honor that his children could respect...and is promoted for his honesty.
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* {{Narm}}: Nathan takes his daughter Jade on an upscale dinner date, and gives her a ring that is meant to symbolize his commitment to being the best dad he can be... up to and including "approving any young man who desires to have more than a friendship with you," because "One day l'll I'll give you away to another man, and l want that man to love God more than anything. This leads to the following:
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*** Another way to look at "unanswered" prayers is that they simply don't get the answer you want, i.e. the answer you want is 'yes' and the answer you get is either 'no' or 'wait' (the prayer isn't answered on your preferred timetable.timetable).
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***Nathan: Jade, will you give me your left hand, please?
***Jade: Daddy, is this real?
***Nathan: Yes, it is. This is meant to be worn until it's replaced by your wedding ring.
** Even in the context of the movie, this is at best Narm if not {{Squick}}.
***Nathan: Jade, will you give me your left hand, please?
***Jade: Daddy, is this real?
***Nathan: Yes, it is. This is meant to be worn until it's replaced by your wedding ring.
** Even in the context of the movie, this is at best Narm if not {{Squick}}.
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*** Another way to look at "unanswered" prayers is that they simply don't get the answer you want, i.e. the answer you want is 'yes' and the answer you get is either 'no' or 'wait' (the prayer isn't answered on your preferred timetable.
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*** Another way to look at "unanswered" prayers is that they simply don't get the answer you want, i.e. the answer you want is 'yes' and the answer you get is either 'no' or 'wait' (the prayer isn't answered on your preferred timetable.timetable.
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** If you're a Christian, this scene might hit even harder since [[spoiler: after Shane explains to Adam exactly what happened, Adam says "Oh God help my daughter!"…and then she STILL dies. This leads into a series of scenes of the family grieving and then into a conversation between Adam and his wife where she tearfully talks about how "I'm in a black hole and I don't know where the way out is" (paraphrased). Many Christians can relate to unanswered prayers causing horrible pain.]]
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** If you're a Christian, this scene might hit even harder since [[spoiler: after Shane explains to Adam exactly what happened, Adam says "Oh God help my daughter!"…and then she STILL dies. This leads into a series of scenes of the family grieving and then into a conversation between Adam and his wife where she tearfully talks about how "I'm in a black hole and I don't know where the way out is" (paraphrased). Many Christians can relate to unanswered prayers causing horrible pain.]]]]
*** Another way to look at "unanswered" prayers is that they simply don't get the answer you want, i.e. the answer you want is 'yes' and the answer you get is either 'no' or 'wait' (the prayer isn't answered on your preferred timetable.
*** Another way to look at "unanswered" prayers is that they simply don't get the answer you want, i.e. the answer you want is 'yes' and the answer you get is either 'no' or 'wait' (the prayer isn't answered on your preferred timetable.
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: When Adam Mitchell's daughter dies.]]
** If you're a Christian, this scene might hit even harder since [[spoiler: after Shane explains to Adam exactly what happened, Adam says "Oh God help my daughter!"…and then she STILL dies. This leads into a series of scenes of the family grieving and then into a conversation between Adam and his wife where she tearfully talks about how "I'm in a black hole and I don't know where the way out is" (paraphrased). Many Christians can relate to unanswered prayers causing horrible pain.]]
** If you're a Christian, this scene might hit even harder since [[spoiler: after Shane explains to Adam exactly what happened, Adam says "Oh God help my daughter!"…and then she STILL dies. This leads into a series of scenes of the family grieving and then into a conversation between Adam and his wife where she tearfully talks about how "I'm in a black hole and I don't know where the way out is" (paraphrased). Many Christians can relate to unanswered prayers causing horrible pain.]]
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: When Adam Mitchell's daughter dies.]]
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