History YMMV / CiaphasCain

17th Jun '16 12:18:58 PM MattStriker
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* {{Squick}}: The Mechanicus genestealer-breeding experiments in ''The Greater Good'' (where convicts are implied to have been forcibly impregnated by infected test subjects) are squicky enough to visibly disturb a visiting ''Tau''.
9th Jan '16 4:27:42 PM KristophGavinYes
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* MemeticMutation: One of the few memes originating from Wiki/TVTropes: it has become tradition to write '''[[FakeUltimateHero HERO OF THE]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki?from=Main.TVTropesDrinkingGame IMPERIUM]]''' after Cain's name whenever he appears on another page.

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* MemeticMutation: One of the few memes originating from Wiki/TVTropes: it has become tradition to write '''[[FakeUltimateHero HERO OF THE]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki?from=Main.TVTropesDrinkingGame [[TVTropesWikiDrinkingGame IMPERIUM]]''' after Cain's name whenever he appears on another page.
9th Jan '16 4:26:41 PM KristophGavinYes
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* MemeticMutation: One of the few memes originating from Wiki/TVTropes: it has become tradition to write '''[[FakeUltimateHero HERO OF THE IMPERIUM]]''' after Cain's name whenever he appears on another page.

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* MemeticMutation: One of the few memes originating from Wiki/TVTropes: it has become tradition to write '''[[FakeUltimateHero HERO OF THE THE]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DrinkingGame/TVTropesWiki?from=Main.TVTropesDrinkingGame IMPERIUM]]''' after Cain's name whenever he appears on another page.
4th Sep '15 6:11:10 PM StarSword
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** The Orks are a more... interesting case. While they are more often than not the "Original Antagonists" that Cain is sent in to fight only to later stumble upon the real threat (Necrons or Tyranids), they ''are'' considered the comic relief army in 40K, and the 597th are considered experts at fighting Orks, so it gets played with a little.

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** The Orks are a more... interesting case. While they are more often than not the "Original Antagonists" that Cain is sent in to fight only to later stumble upon the real threat (Necrons or Tyranids), they ''are'' considered the comic relief army in 40K, and the 597th are considered experts at fighting Orks, so it gets played with a little. They get their DayInTheLimelight in ''Death or Glory''.
4th Sep '15 6:10:45 PM StarSword
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** The Orks are a more... interesting case. While they are more often than not the "Original Antagonists" that Cain finds (only to later stumble upon the real threat (Necrons or Tyranids), they ''are'' considered the comic relief army in 40K, and the 597th are considered experts at fighting Orks, so it gets played with a little.

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** The Orks are a more... interesting case. While they are more often than not the "Original Antagonists" that Cain finds (only is sent in to fight only to later stumble upon the real threat (Necrons or Tyranids), they ''are'' considered the comic relief army in 40K, and the 597th are considered experts at fighting Orks, so it gets played with a little.
26th Dec '14 2:23:38 PM GrantMK2
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot / WhatCouldHaveBeen: Fairly early in "The Greater Good", Tau ambassador El'hassai suggests an exchange of observers between the allied Imperial and Tau forces and suggests Cain to be the human representative in the Tau fleet. Instead of agreeing and the book being about Cain fighting alongside the Tau, he nominates ambassador Donali to go instead and sticks with the Imperial force for the rest of the book. As a result, the scene on the cover of Cai back-to-back with a Fire Warrior facing down a swarm of Tyranids [[CoversAlwaysLie never happens]] and the Tau go on to play almost no part in the rest of the story.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot / WhatCouldHaveBeen: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Fairly early in "The Greater Good", Tau ambassador El'hassai suggests an exchange of observers between the allied Imperial and Tau forces and suggests Cain to be the human representative in the Tau fleet. Instead of agreeing and the book being about Cain fighting alongside the Tau, he nominates ambassador Donali to go instead and sticks with the Imperial force for the rest of the book. As a result, the scene on the cover of Cai back-to-back with a Fire Warrior facing down a swarm of Tyranids [[CoversAlwaysLie never happens]] and the Tau go on to play almost no part in the rest of the story.
5th Dec '14 9:35:12 PM ArcaneAzmadi
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot / WhatCouldHaveBeen: Fairly early in "The Greater Good", Tau ambassador El'hassai suggests an exchange of observers between the allied Imperial and Tau forces and suggests Cain to be the human representative in the Tau fleet. Instead of agreeing and the book being about Cain fighting alongside the Tau, he nominates ambassador Donali to go instead and sticks with the Imperial force for the rest of the book. As a result, the scene on the cover of Cai back-to-back with a Fire Warrior facing down a swarm of Tyranids [[CoversAlwaysLie never happens]] and the Tau go on to play almost no part in the rest of the story.
11th Nov '14 4:27:29 PM TARINunit9
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* DiscreditedMeme: For many fans, typing '''HERO OF THE IMPERIUM''' after every instance of Cain's name.
12th Aug '14 11:00:18 AM Willbyr
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* MemeticMutation: One of the few memes originating from Wiki/TVTropes: it has become tradition to write '''[[FakeUltimateHero HERO OF THE IMPERIUM]]''' after Cain's name whenever he appears on another page.

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* MemeticMutation: One of the few memes originating from Wiki/TVTropes: it has become tradition to write '''[[FakeUltimateHero HERO OF THE IMPERIUM]]''' after Cain's name whenever he appears on another page.page.

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23rd May '14 9:28:37 PM Bishop999
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* IronWoobie: Issues of self-esteem are the least of humanity's worries in the Warhammer 40K universe, but Cain has enough trust issues and paranoia to disturb [[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Harry Dresden]], and self esteem so low that on a scale of 1-10 it probably has to be measured in the negative. He goes through his entire life convinced that no one could or should care for him personally, unable to connect with people on any meaningful level, unable to ever credit that he's a remotely decent person or so much as pat himself on the back for the ''billions'' of lives he saves, and terrified to trust anyone with his thoughts, lest he be shot for cowardice and deceit. The closest he ever comes is when, at their second meeting, Amberly gently implies that she isn't fooled by his facade and suggests that he could try being himself. He practically shits his pants thinking that she's a psyker and is going to have him killed, and he never actually takes her into his confidence even after a century of romance. That's ''sad.''

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* IronWoobie: Issues of self-esteem are the least of humanity's worries in the Warhammer 40K universe, universe and so it's never emphasized in the books, but Cain has enough trust issues and paranoia to disturb [[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Harry Dresden]], and self esteem a self-esteem so low that on a scale of 1-10 it probably has to should be measured in the negative. He goes through his entire life convinced that no one could or should care for him personally, unable to connect with people on any meaningful level, unable to ever credit that he's a remotely decent person or so much as pat himself on the back for the ''billions'' of lives he saves, and terrified to trust anyone with his thoughts, lest he be shot for cowardice and deceit. The closest he this ever comes gets to a LampshadeHanging is when, at their second meeting, Amberly gently implies that she isn't fooled by his facade and suggests that he could try being himself. He practically shits his pants thinking that she's a psyker and is going to have him killed, and he never actually takes her into his confidence even after a century of romance. That's ''sad.''
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