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* PlayerPunch: [[spoiler: Tasha King]] in 3-7, [[spoiler: Phil Morris]] in 4-8, and [[spoiler: Ken Greene]] in [[HeroicSacrifice 8-6]]. You ''will'' want to return their killers to nothing afterwards.
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* PlayerPunch: [[spoiler: Tasha King]] in 3-7, [[spoiler: Phil Morris]] in 4-8, and [[spoiler: Ken Greene]] in [[HeroicSacrifice 8-6]]. You ''will'' want to return their killers to nothing afterwards.
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* {{Crowning Moment Of Awesome}}: [[spoiler: There are several of these]] during Season 11.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: There are several of these]] during Season 11.
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler: There are several of these]] during Season 11.
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* DieForOurShip: Óscar Santos gets ''way'' too much flak. Not because of his occasional overblown ego, but for obstructing a relationship between Mal and Natara.
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* PlayerPunch: [[spoiler: Tasha King]] in 3-7, [[spoiler: Phil Morris]] in 4-8, and [[spoiler: [[HeroicSacrifice Ken Greene]]]] in 8-6. You ''will'' want to return their killers to nothing afterwards.
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* PlayerPunch: [[spoiler: Tasha King]] in 3-7, [[spoiler: Phil Morris]] in 4-8, and [[spoiler: Ken Greene]] in [[HeroicSacrifice Ken Greene]]]] in 8-6.8-6]]. You ''will'' want to return their killers to nothing afterwards.
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* {{Crowning Moment Of Awesome}}: [[spoiler: There are several of these during Season 11.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Shawn Mallory]]'s SanitySlippage propels him across this when he [[spoiler: doesn't just kill Hartnell--justifiable to save Willis's life--but also ''marks him as a thrall'' so he'll die in horror that he'll be a nothing in the afterlife]].
* PlayerPunch: [[spoiler: Tasha King in 3-7, Phil Morris in 4-8, [[HeroicSacrifice Ken Greene]] in 8-6. You ''will'' want to return their killers to nothing afterwards.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Shawn Mallory]]'s SanitySlippage propels him across this when he [[spoiler: doesn't just kill Hartnell--justifiable to save Willis's life--but also ''marks him as a thrall'' so he'll die in horror that he'll be a nothing in the afterlife]].
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* ForeShadowing: [[spoiler: In one of the alternate endings for Season 1, Eric falls off the roof of Alcatraz and survives; establishing that a fall from Alcatraz alone is not fatal.]] Later, in Season 8, it is revealed that [[spoiler: Shawn also survived the fall from Alcatraz that he took in 5-8]]
* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Shawn Mallory]]'s SanitySlippage propels him across this when he [[spoiler: doesn't just kill Hartnell--justifiable to save Willis's life--but also ''marks him as a thrall'' so he'll die in horror that he'll be a nothing in theafterlife]].
afterlife]] at the end of Season 4.
* PlayerPunch: [[spoiler: TashaKing King]] in 3-7, [[spoiler: Phil Morris Morris]] in 4-8, and [[spoiler: [[HeroicSacrifice Ken Greene]] Greene]]]] in 8-6. You ''will'' want to return their killers to nothing afterwards.]]
* ForeShadowing: [[spoiler: In one of the alternate endings for Season 1, Eric falls off the roof of Alcatraz and survives; establishing that a fall from Alcatraz alone is not fatal.]] Later, in Season 8, it is revealed that [[spoiler: Shawn also survived the fall from Alcatraz that he took in 5-8]]
* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Shawn Mallory]]'s SanitySlippage propels him across this when he [[spoiler: doesn't just kill Hartnell--justifiable to save Willis's life--but also ''marks him as a thrall'' so he'll die in horror that he'll be a nothing in the
* PlayerPunch: [[spoiler: Tasha
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Please present all Complete Monster candidates in this thread.
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* CompleteMonster: When the main theme is contending with {{Serial Killer}}s, you're going to have these.
** [[spoiler:Genevieve Collins]] takes the lead as the Connoisseur. Putting herself AboveGoodAndEvil, she believes the real sin is forcing incipient serial killers to deny their true nature (it doesn't exactly help that she doesn't believe in free will). She adulates [[BiblicalBadGuys Lilith]] as a proper mother, who loves her brood despite their darkness...or, in her case, ''because of'' their innate darkness. Then again, the times we ''see'' her "mothering" her Lilim...one part emotional abuse, one part fulsome love-bombing, one part [[ManipulativeBastard rank manipulation]]...It makes you wonder if her definition of "love" maps ''at all'' with the rest of humanity's (non-sociopathic psychopaths included).
** Herman Hartnell, the infamous Zero, sees ''all'' other people as cattle, fit only for him to brand so they'll be his eternal thralls in the afterlife. He even tried to do this to his ''adoptive daughter''. Considering that said daughter [[spoiler: was the future Genevieve Collins]], this proved to be ''very'' ill-advised.
** In season 10, there's [[spoiler: Reese Gable]]. Even before the Nightmare case gets going, [[spoiler: he used ''one of his own students''--his lover, no less!--as the guinea pig in an experiment to create a LiteralSplitPersonality]]. And in the case proper, [[spoiler: he spreads the fear-inducing Nightmare drug in various places, then tries to activate a drug that induces '''''murderous rage''''' at Óscar's wedding]]. Reason? ForScience!! [[spoiler: His {{Ubermensch}} view of himself doesn't hurt]].
** Season 11 introduces us to [[TheGeneralissimo Pablo Sálazar]], [[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny Prime Minister]] of [[BananaRepublic San Trobida]]. If you thought his daughter was bad, she seems to be just an understudy to him. Never mind his rule of fear and decimation (and worse; threatening to slaughter all the women and children in a village to get a rebel leader to talk, anyone?), he's impelled ''the entire country's populace'' to work his coca fields. You don't work at this or at least succor it, ColdBloodedTorture is the ''least'' you can expect in the end. And he also uses child labor in his fields. Even if Carlito ''says'' they get a fair wage (and he doesn't look convinced of his own words), it obviously isn't enough to keep them properly fed.
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* CompleteMonster: When the main theme is contending with [[SerialKiller Serial Killers]], of ''course'' you're going to have these.
** [[spoiler:Genevieve Collins]], of course, takes the lead as the Connoisseur. Putting herself AboveGoodAndEvil, she believes the real sin is forcing incipient serial killers to deny their true nature (it doesn't exactly help that she doesn't believe in free will). She adulates [[BiblicalBadGuys Lilith]] as a proper mother, who loves her brood despite their darkness...or, in her case, ''because of'' their innate darkness. Then again, the times we ''see'' her "mothering" her Lilim...one part emotional abuse, one part fulsome love-bombing, one part [[ManipulativeBastard rank manipulation]]...It makes you wonder if her definition of "love" maps ''at all'' with the rest of humanity's (non-sociopathic psychopaths included).
** [[spoiler:Genevieve Collins]], of course, takes the lead as the Connoisseur. Putting herself AboveGoodAndEvil, she believes the real sin is forcing incipient serial killers to deny their true nature (it doesn't exactly help that she doesn't believe in free will). She adulates [[BiblicalBadGuys Lilith]] as a proper mother, who loves her brood despite their darkness...or, in her case, ''because of'' their innate darkness. Then again, the times we ''see'' her "mothering" her Lilim...one part emotional abuse, one part fulsome love-bombing, one part [[ManipulativeBastard rank manipulation]]...It makes you wonder if her definition of "love" maps ''at all'' with the rest of humanity's (non-sociopathic psychopaths included).
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* CompleteMonster: When the main theme is contending with [[SerialKiller Serial Killers]], of ''course'' {{Serial Killer}}s, you're going to have these.
** [[spoiler:GenevieveCollins]], of course, Collins]] takes the lead as the Connoisseur. Putting herself AboveGoodAndEvil, she believes the real sin is forcing incipient serial killers to deny their true nature (it doesn't exactly help that she doesn't believe in free will). She adulates [[BiblicalBadGuys Lilith]] as a proper mother, who loves her brood despite their darkness...or, in her case, ''because of'' their innate darkness. Then again, the times we ''see'' her "mothering" her Lilim...one part emotional abuse, one part fulsome love-bombing, one part [[ManipulativeBastard rank manipulation]]...It makes you wonder if her definition of "love" maps ''at all'' with the rest of humanity's (non-sociopathic psychopaths included).
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** Season 11 introduces us to [[TheGeneralissimo Pablo Sálazar]], [[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny Prime Minister]] of [[BananaRepublic San Trobida]]. If you thought his daughter was bad, she seems to be just an understudy to him. Never mind his rule of fear and decimation (and worse; threatening to slaughter all the women and children in a village to get a rebel leader to talk, anyone?), he's impelled ''the entire country's populace'' to work his coca fields. You don't work at this or at least succor it, ColdBloodedTorture is the ''least'' you can expect in the end. And he also uses child labor in his fields. Even if Carlito ''says'' they get a fair wage (and even then, he doesn't look convinced of his own words), it obviously isn't enough to keep them properly fed.
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** In season 10, there's [[spoiler: Reese Gable]]. Even before the Nightmare case gets going, [[spoiler: he used ''one of his own students''--his lover, no less!--as the guinea pig in an experiment to create a LiteralSplitPersonality]]. And in the case proper, [[spoiler: he spreads the fear-inducing Nightmare drug in various places, then tries to activate a drug that induces '''''murderous rage''''' at Oscar's wedding]]. Reason? ForScience!! [[spoiler: His {{Ubermensch}} view of himself doesn't hurt]].
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** In season 10, there's [[spoiler: Reese Gable]]. Even before the Nightmare case gets going, [[spoiler: he used ''one of his own students''--his lover, no less!--as the guinea pig in an experiment to create a LiteralSplitPersonality]]. And in the case proper, [[spoiler: he spreads the fear-inducing Nightmare drug in various places, then tries to activate a drug that induces '''''murderous rage''''' at Oscar's Óscar's wedding]]. Reason? ForScience!! [[spoiler: His {{Ubermensch}} view of himself doesn't hurt]].
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** Season 11 introduces us to [[TheGeneralissimo Pablo Sálazar]], [[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny Prime Minister]] of [[BananaRepublic San Trobida]]. If you thought his daughter was bad, she seems to be just an understudy to him. Never mind his rule of fear and decimation (and worse; threatening to slaughter all the women and children in a village to get a rebel leader to talk, anyone?), he's impelled ''the entire country's populace'' to work his coca fields. You don't work at this or at least succor it, ColdBloodedTorture is the ''least'' you can expect in the end. And he also uses child labor in his fields. Even if Carlito ''says'' they get a fair wage (and even then, he doesn't look convinced of his own words), it obviously isn't enough to keep them properly fed.
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* PlayerPunch: [[spoiler: Tasha King in 3-7, Phil Morris in 4-8. You ''will'' want to return their killers to nothing afterwards.]]
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* PlayerPunch: [[spoiler: Tasha King in 3-7, Phil Morris in 4-8.4-8, [[HeroicSacrifice Ken Greene]] in 8-6. You ''will'' want to return their killers to nothing afterwards.]]
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** In season 10, there's [[spoiler: Reese Gable]]. Even before the Nightmare case gets going, [[spoiler: he used ''one of his own students''--his lover, no less!--as the guinea pig in an experiment to create a LiteralSplitPersonality]]. And in the case proper, [[he [[spoiler: he spreads the fear-inducing Nightmare drug in various places, then tries to activate a drug that induces '''''murderous rage''''' at Oscar's wedding]]. Reason? ForScience!! [[spoiler: His {{Ubermensch}} view of himself doesn't hurt]].
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*CompleteMonster: When the main theme is contending with [[SerialKiller Serial Killers]], of ''course'' you're going to have these.
**[[spoiler:Genevieve Collins]], of course, takes the lead as the Connoisseur. Putting herself AboveGoodAndEvil, she believes the real sin is forcing incipient serial killers to deny their true nature (it doesn't exactly help that she doesn't believe in free will). She adulates [[BiblicalBadGuys Lilith]] as a proper mother, who loves her brood despite their darkness...or, in her case, ''because of'' their innate darkness. Then again, the times we ''see'' her "mothering" her Lilim...one part emotional abuse, one part fulsome love-bombing, one part [[ManipulativeBastard rank manipulation]]...It makes you wonder if her definition of "love" maps ''at all'' with the rest of humanity's (non-sociopathic psychopaths included).
**Herman Hartnell, the infamous Zero, sees ''all'' other people as cattle, fit only for him to brand so they'll be his eternal thralls in the afterlife. He even tried to do this to his ''adoptive daughter''. Considering that said daughter [[spoiler: was the future Genevieve Collins]], this proved to be ''very'' ill-advised.
*MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Shawn Mallory]]'s SanitySlippage propels him across this when he [[spoiler: doesn't just kill Hartnell--justifiable to save Willis's life--but also ''marks him as a thrall'' so he'll die in horror that he'll be a nothing in the afterlife]].
*TheScrappy: Óscar Santos gets ''way'' too much flak. Not because of his occasional overblown ego, but for obstructing a relationship between Mal and Natara.
*CompleteMonster: When the main theme is contending with [[SerialKiller Serial Killers]], of ''course'' you're going to have these.
**[[spoiler:Genevieve Collins]], of course, takes the lead as the Connoisseur. Putting herself AboveGoodAndEvil, she believes the real sin is forcing incipient serial killers to deny their true nature (it doesn't exactly help that she doesn't believe in free will). She adulates [[BiblicalBadGuys Lilith]] as a proper mother, who loves her brood despite their darkness...or, in her case, ''because of'' their innate darkness. Then again, the times we ''see'' her "mothering" her Lilim...one part emotional abuse, one part fulsome love-bombing, one part [[ManipulativeBastard rank manipulation]]...It makes you wonder if her definition of "love" maps ''at all'' with the rest of humanity's (non-sociopathic psychopaths included).
**Herman Hartnell, the infamous Zero, sees ''all'' other people as cattle, fit only for him to brand so they'll be his eternal thralls in the afterlife. He even tried to do this to his ''adoptive daughter''. Considering that said daughter [[spoiler: was the future Genevieve Collins]], this proved to be ''very'' ill-advised.
*MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Shawn Mallory]]'s SanitySlippage propels him across this when he [[spoiler: doesn't just kill Hartnell--justifiable to save Willis's life--but also ''marks him as a thrall'' so he'll die in horror that he'll be a nothing in the afterlife]].
*TheScrappy: Óscar Santos gets ''way'' too much flak. Not because of his occasional overblown ego, but for obstructing a relationship between Mal and Natara.