History YMMV / CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier

1st Oct '17 8:12:07 PM Thorion
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** This film was released following the controversial Superman reboot, ''Man of Steel''. Some fans feel that Chris Evans' Captain America was a more appropriate modern take on the Big Blue Boyscout.

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** This film was released following the controversial Superman reboot, ''Man of Steel''. Some fans feel that Chris Evans' Captain America was a more appropriate modern take on the Big Blue Boyscout. By extension this makes it the closest thing to an adaptation of Amalgam's Super-Soldier.
23rd Sep '17 1:26:01 PM kquinn0830
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Some have argued that TheReveal of [[spoiler: HYDRA having infiltrated SHIELD]] undermines the ethical question the film poses of "is reduced liberty in the name of greater security worth it", and that the question would have resonated more if [[spoiler: SHIELD itself were the antagonists]].

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Some have argued that TheReveal of [[spoiler: HYDRA having infiltrated SHIELD]] undermines the ethical question the film poses of "is reduced liberty in the name of greater security worth it", and that the question would have resonated more if [[spoiler: SHIELD itself were the antagonists]]. Indeed, this was actually the main criticism of the film by professional critics who gave it a [[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/filmreviews/10712254/Captain-America-The-Winter-Soldier-review.html negative]] [[http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/movies/reviews/captain-america-sequel-pits-freedom-against-security/article_a5d21a18-18a1-5c25-b80d-bd89159a4749.html review]].
7th Sep '17 2:06:45 PM AlleyOop
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** SHIELD [[spoiler: Being thoroughly infiltrated by HYDRA and trying to subvert what America stands for]] becomes much more chilling now that it's increasingly apparent [[spoiler: that [[https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31/the-fbi-has-quietly-investigated-white-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/ White Supermacists have been infiltrating local and state level law enforcement agencies for decades]]]].


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** SHIELD [[spoiler: Being thoroughly infiltrated by HYDRA and trying to subvert what America stands for]] becomes much more chilling now that it's increasingly apparent [[spoiler: that [[https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31/the-fbi-has-quietly-investigated-white-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/ White Supermacists have been infiltrating local and state level law enforcement agencies for decades]]]].
7th Sep '17 1:31:40 PM CrowTR0bot
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** SHIELD [[spoiler: Being thoroughly infiltrated by HYDRA and trying to subvert what America stands for]] becomes much more chilling now that it's increasingly apparent [[spoiler: that [[https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31/the-fbi-has-quietly-investigated-white-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/ White Supermacists have been infiltrating local and state level law enforcement agencies for decades]]]].
28th Aug '17 7:34:33 AM chasemaddigan
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* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: Thanks to the [[MemeticMutation meme in which people caption images of a person whispering into another person's ear]] with [[spoiler:"Hail HYDRA", even people who haven't seen the movie know that HYDRA is the bad guys]], and that's actually the [[TheReveal biggest reveal]] in the entire movie, if not the entire '''franchise.'''
20th Jul '17 10:57:08 PM JulianLapostat
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* GrowingTheBeard: For the entire MCU. The movies that came before, ''Iron Man'' and ''The Avengers'' in particular were considered solidly entertaining, lighthearted action spectacle films, but generally seen as lacking in emotional impact and not having stakes. ''The Winter Soldier'' turned things on the head and made long-term changes to the series (such as [[spoiler:destroying SHIELD and changing the status-quo]]), introduced a much darker and serious plot while still keeping the light-hearted elements and set a trend for more inner-drama and tension in the movies that followed.
10th Jul '17 2:20:30 PM nighttrainfm
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** After TheReveal, viewers of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' started to ask themselves [[spoiler:if any of the S.H.I.E.L.D. agents they'd come to know and love over the course of the first season were actually HYDRA agents.]] The paranoia there turned out to be justified, as [[spoiler:Grant Ward was revealed as TheMole in the following episode]].

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** After TheReveal, viewers of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' started to ask themselves [[spoiler:if any of the S.H.I.E.L.D. agents they'd come to know and love over the course of the first season were actually HYDRA agents.]] The paranoia there turned out to be justified, as [[spoiler:Grant Ward was revealed as TheMole in the following episode]].episode.]]


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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome:
** Most obviously, the Winter Soldier's metal arm is a downright beautiful piece of work.
** The fight scenes in general, starting with Steve sprinting around the hijacked ship and demolishing anyone in his way. It's a great reminder that he's [[SuperSoldier faster and stronger than any normal human]] (''without'' going totally over the top).
21st Jun '17 7:14:55 PM 64SuperNintendo
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* EvenBetterSequel: ''Winter Soldier'' has been considered an even stronger film than [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger its predecessor]], already a fan favorite in the MCU. In fact some critics and fans have been treating it as this to the ''entire'' MCU, declaring it the best of the whole series so far (its Tomatometer is the sixth-highest in the MCU behind ''Film/IronMan1'', ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' and ''Film/DoctorStrange''). It's also far more successful at the box office than the original.

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* EvenBetterSequel: ''Winter Soldier'' has been considered an even stronger film than [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger its predecessor]], already a fan favorite in the MCU. In fact some critics and fans have been treating it as this to the ''entire'' MCU, declaring it the best of the whole series so far (its Tomatometer is the sixth-highest in the MCU behind ''Film/IronMan1'', ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' and ''Film/DoctorStrange'').''Film/DoctorStrange2016''). It's also far more successful at the box office than the original.
21st Jun '17 7:14:33 PM 64SuperNintendo
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* EvenBetterSequel: ''Winter Soldier'' has been considered an even stronger film than [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger its predecessor]], already a fan favorite in the MCU. In fact some critics and fans have been treating it as this to the ''entire'' MCU, declaring it the best of the whole series so far (its Tomatometer is the fourth-highest in the MCU behind ''Film/IronMan1'', ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', and ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy''). It's also far more successful at the box office than the original.

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* EvenBetterSequel: ''Winter Soldier'' has been considered an even stronger film than [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger its predecessor]], already a fan favorite in the MCU. In fact some critics and fans have been treating it as this to the ''entire'' MCU, declaring it the best of the whole series so far (its Tomatometer is the fourth-highest sixth-highest in the MCU behind ''Film/IronMan1'', ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'', ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' and ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'').''Film/DoctorStrange''). It's also far more successful at the box office than the original.
14th Jun '17 7:21:52 PM Zaptech
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** The cut to [[EndingFatigue Falcon and Rumlow still fighting after the rest of the climax has been resolved]].
** Steve at his old army base and seeing the ghost of his former skinny self who looks at him in amazement.



** The amount of times somebody gets mule kicked either into or off of something practically becomes a RunningGag.
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