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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: Elisa attempted suicide and has been hospitalized for vaguely explained mental health reasons. Mental illnesses were poorly understood in the '20s.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Elisa (in season 2), sick of being treated like a fragile, invalid child by her family, [[TookALevelInBadass finally plays the same game that everyone else is playing]] (negotiating with favours for favours/backstabbing) to escape to mother's plan to have her locked up in a sanitarium for the rest of her life.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Elisa (in season 2), sick of being treated like a fragile, invalid child by her family, [[TookALevelInBadass finally plays the same game that everyone else is playing]] (negotiating with favours for favours/backstabbing) to escape to her mother's plan to have her locked up in a sanitarium for the rest of her life.
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Old Maid merge
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** Does Marisol really love Pablo or is she just desperate to be married to avoid becoming a ChristmasCake?
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** Does Marisol really love Pablo or is she just desperate to be married to avoid becoming a ChristmasCake? an OldMaid?
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** Mario [[spoiler: beating up his wife Ángeles so badly that she miscarries what would have been their second child.]]tee
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** Mario [[spoiler: beating up his wife Ángeles so badly that she miscarries what would have been their second child.]]tee]]
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The trope's been cut by TRS.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Elisa (in season 2), sick of being treated like a [[IllGirl fragile, invalid child]] by her family, [[TookALevelInBadass finally plays the same game that everyone else is playing]] (negotiating with favours for favours/backstabbing) to escape to mother's plan to have her locked up in a sanitarium for the rest of her life.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Elisa (in season 2), sick of being treated like a [[IllGirl fragile, invalid child]] child by her family, [[TookALevelInBadass finally plays the same game that everyone else is playing]] (negotiating with favours for favours/backstabbing) to escape to mother's plan to have her locked up in a sanitarium for the rest of her life.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Does Francisco really love Alba/Lidia, or is he just nostalgic for the simpler days they spent together as optimistic teenagers? And does ''Carlos'' really love Alba/Lidia, or does he just see her as a means for rebelling against his wealthy, upper-class family?
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Does Francisco really love Alba/Lidia, or is he just nostalgic for the simpler days they spent together as optimistic teenagers? And does ''Carlos'' really love Alba/Lidia, or does he just see her as a means for rebelling against his wealthy, upper-class family?
** Does Francisco really love Alba/Lidia, or is he just nostalgic for the simpler days they spent together as optimistic teenagers? And does ''Carlos'' really love Alba/Lidia, or does he just see her as a means for rebelling against his wealthy, upper-class family?
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* MoralEventHorizon: Mario [[spoiler: beating up his wife Ángeles so badly that she miscarries what would have been their second child.]]tee
** Doña Carmen [[spoiler: arranging for Lidia to be kidnapped and forced to have an abortion. It's Doña Carmen's own grandchild that she wants aborted, to boot, because Lidia's not of the right social class to marry her son Carlos.]]
* TearJerker: Ángeles [[spoiler: losing her second baby]] and the increasing hopelessness of her situation as every attempt she makes to get away from Mario fails. [[spoiler: Eventually, she has to kill him, with the help of her friends.]]
** Doña Carmen [[spoiler: arranging for Lidia to be kidnapped and forced to have an abortion. It's Doña Carmen's own grandchild that she wants aborted, to boot, because Lidia's not of the right social class to marry her son Carlos.]]
* TearJerker: Ángeles [[spoiler: losing her second baby]] and the increasing hopelessness of her situation as every attempt she makes to get away from Mario fails. [[spoiler: Eventually, she has to kill him, with the help of her friends.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
** Mario [[spoiler: beating up his wife Ángeles so badly that she miscarries what would have been their second child.]]tee
** Doña Carmen [[spoiler: arranging for Lidia to be kidnapped and forced to have an abortion. It's Doña Carmen's own grandchild that she wants aborted, to boot, because Lidia's not of the right social class to marry her son Carlos.]]
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** Ángeles [[spoiler: losing her second baby]] and the increasing hopelessness of her situation as every attempt she makes to get away from Mario fails. [[spoiler: Eventually, she has to kill him, with the help of her friends.]]
** Mario [[spoiler: beating up his wife Ángeles so badly that she miscarries what would have been their second child.]]tee
** Doña Carmen [[spoiler: arranging for Lidia to be kidnapped and forced to have an abortion. It's Doña Carmen's own grandchild that she wants aborted, to boot, because Lidia's not of the right social class to marry her son Carlos.
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** Ángeles [[spoiler: losing her second baby]] and the increasing hopelessness of her situation as every attempt she makes to get away from Mario fails. [[spoiler: Eventually, she has to kill him, with the help of her friends.]]
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Elisa (in season 2), sick of being treated like a [[IllGirl fragile, invalid child]] by her family, [[TookALevelInBadass finally plays the same game that everyone else is playing]] (negotiating with favours for favours/backstabbing) to escape to mother's plan to have her locked up in a sanitarium for the rest of her life.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: The farewell between the girls right before Ángeles's [[spoiler: unsuccessful]] escape attempt. Ángeles tearfully tells them how glad she is that they were all late for the telephone operator entrance exam, because she got to meet them. Awwwww.
** Pablo and Marga's obvious, devoted love for each other.
* JerkassWoobie: Lidia/Alba. She's a manipulative schemer and ConsummateLiar, but she's being blackmailed for a crime she didn't commit, and she's had to lie and scheme for years to survive, since all her hopes for a safe, respectable life in Madrid were crushed as soon as she arrived.
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Elisa (in season 2), sick of being treated like a [[IllGirl fragile, invalid child]] by her family, [[TookALevelInBadass finally plays the same game that everyone else is playing]] (negotiating with favours for favours/backstabbing) to escape to mother's plan to have her locked up in a sanitarium for the rest of her life.
** Pablo and Marga's obvious, devoted love for each other.
* JerkassWoobie: Lidia/Alba. She's a manipulative schemer and ConsummateLiar, but she's being blackmailed for a crime she didn't commit, and she's had to lie and scheme for years to survive, since all her hopes for a safe, respectable life in Madrid were crushed as soon as she arrived.
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Elisa (in season 2), sick of being treated like a [[IllGirl fragile, invalid child]] by her family, [[TookALevelInBadass finally plays the same game that everyone else is playing]] (negotiating with favours for favours/backstabbing) to escape to mother's plan to have her locked up in a sanitarium for the rest of her life.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: The farewell between the girls right before Ángeles's [[spoiler: unsuccessful]] escape attempt. Ángeles tearfully tells them how glad she is that they were all late for the telephone operator entrance exam, because she got to meet them. Awwwww.
** Pablo and Marga's obvious, devoted love for each other.
* JerkassWoobie: Lidia/Alba. She's a manipulative schemer and ConsummateLiar, but she's being blackmailed for a crime she didn't commit, and she's had to lie and scheme for years to survive, since all her hopes for a safe, respectable life in Madrid were crushed as soon as she arrived.
** Pablo and Marga's obvious, devoted love for each other.
* JerkassWoobie: Lidia/Alba. She's a manipulative schemer and ConsummateLiar, but she's being blackmailed for a crime she didn't commit, and she's had to lie and scheme for years to survive, since all her hopes for a safe, respectable life in Madrid were crushed as soon as she arrived.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Does Francisco really love Alba/Lidia, or is he just nostalgic for the simpler days they spent together as optimistic teenagers? And does ''Carlos'' really love Alba/Lidia, or does he just see her as a means for rebelling against his wealthy, upper class family?
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Does Francisco really love Alba/Lidia, or is he just nostalgic for the simpler days they spent together as optimistic teenagers? And does ''Carlos'' really love Alba/Lidia, or does he just see her as a means for rebelling against his wealthy, upper class family? upper-class family?
** Does Lidia/Alba really love either Carlos or Francisco or is she just seeking some sort of stability for the first time in her life?
** Does Lidia/Alba really love either Carlos or Francisco or is she just seeking some sort of stability for the first time in her life?
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* AltnerativeCharacterIntrepretation: Does Francisco really love Alba/Lidia, or is he just nostalgic for the simpler days they spent together as optimistic teenagers? And does ''Carlos'' really love Alba/Lidia, or does he just see her as a means for rebelling against his wealthy, upper class family?
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* AltnerativeCharacterIntrepretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Does Francisco really love Alba/Lidia, or is he just nostalgic for the simpler days they spent together as optimistic teenagers? And does ''Carlos'' really love Alba/Lidia, or does he just see her as a means for rebelling against his wealthy, upper class family?
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* AltnerativeCharacterIntrepretation: Does Francisco really love Alba/Lidia, or is he just nostalgic for the simpler days they spent together as optimistic teenagers? And does ''Carlos'' really love Alba/Lidia, or does he just see her as a means for rebelling against his wealthy, upper class family?
** Does Marisol really love Pablo or is she just desperate to be married to avoid becoming a ChristmasCake?
** Does Marisol really love Pablo or is she just desperate to be married to avoid becoming a ChristmasCake?
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* TheWoobie: Ángeles, an abused wife in season 1 who spends all of season 2 [[spoiler: covering up her abusive husband's death and being mentally manipulated to the point of near insanity by the cop she's having an affair with.]] Elisa as well. When her husband's not ignoring her, her family's belittling her and making plans behind her back to have her locked up.
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* TheWoobie: Ángeles, an abused wife in season 1 who spends all of season 2 [[spoiler: covering up her abusive husband's death and being mentally manipulated to the point of near insanity by the cop she's having an affair with.]] Elisa as well. When While her husband's not husband is ignoring her, her family's belittling her and making plans behind her back to have her locked up.
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* TheWoobie: Ángeles, an abused wife in season 1 who spends all of season 2 [[spoiler: covering up her abusive husband's death and being mentally manipulated to the point of near insanity by the cop she's having an affair with.]] Elisa as well.
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* TheWoobie: Ángeles, an abused wife in season 1 who spends all of season 2 [[spoiler: covering up her abusive husband's death and being mentally manipulated to the point of near insanity by the cop she's having an affair with.]] Elisa as well. When her husband's not ignoring her, her family's belittling her and making plans behind her back to have her locked up.
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* The Woobie: Ángeles, an abused wife in season 1 who spends all of season 2 [[spoiler: covering up her abusive husband's death and being mentally manipulated to the point of near insanity by the cop she's having an affair with.]] Elisa as well.
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* The Woobie: TheWoobie: Ángeles, an abused wife in season 1 who spends all of season 2 [[spoiler: covering up her abusive husband's death and being mentally manipulated to the point of near insanity by the cop she's having an affair with.]] Elisa as well.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: The farewell between the girls right before Ángeles's [[spoiler: unsuccessful]] escape attempt. Ángeles tells them how glad she is that they were all late for the telephone operator entrance exam, because she got to meet them. Awwwww.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: The farewell between the girls right before Ángeles's [[spoiler: unsuccessful]] escape attempt. Ángeles tearfully tells them how glad she is that they were all late for the telephone operator entrance exam, because she got to meet them. Awwwww.
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* JerkassWoobie: Lidia/Alba. She's a manipulative schemer and ConsummateLiar, but she's being blackmailed for a crime she didn't commit, and she's had to lie and scheme for years to survive, since all her hopes for a safe, respectable life in Madrid were crushed as soon as she arrived.
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** [[DarkAndTroubledPast Lidia's backstory]] is also quite sad. She started off as [[NaiveNewcomer an optimistic, starry-eyed teenager]] bound for a new life and a new start with her boyfriend in Madrid. But then a misunderstanding led to her arrest, her separation from Francisco, her recruitment by a brothel keeper, and then many years of having to lie, cheat, and seduce men for her survival. Then, at the ''very beginning'' of the series, her OnlyFriend gets murdered, and she gets arrested for it and blackmailed. Yikes.
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** [[DarkAndTroubledPast Lidia's backstory]] is also quite sad. She started off as [[NaiveNewcomer an optimistic, starry-eyed teenager]] bound for a new life and a new start with her boyfriend in Madrid. But then a misunderstanding led to her arrest, her separation from Francisco, her recruitment by a brothel keeper, and then many years of having to lie, cheat, and seduce men for her survival. Then, at the ''very beginning'' of the series, her OnlyFriend gets murdered, and she gets arrested for it and blackmailed. Yikes.Yikes.
* The Woobie: Ángeles, an abused wife in season 1 who spends all of season 2 [[spoiler: covering up her abusive husband's death and being mentally manipulated to the point of near insanity by the cop she's having an affair with.]] Elisa as well.
* The Woobie: Ángeles, an abused wife in season 1 who spends all of season 2 [[spoiler: covering up her abusive husband's death and being mentally manipulated to the point of near insanity by the cop she's having an affair with.]] Elisa as well.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: The farewell between the girls right before Ángeles's [[spoiler: unsuccessful]] escape attempt. Ángeles tells the how glad she is they were all late for the telephone operator entrance exam, because she got to meet them. Awwwww.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: The farewell between the girls right before Ángeles's [[spoiler: unsuccessful]] escape attempt. Ángeles tells the them how glad she is that they were all late for the telephone operator entrance exam, because she got to meet them. Awwwww.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: The farewell between the girls right before Ángeles's [[spoiler: unsuccessful]] escape attempt. Ángeles tells the how glad she is they were all late for the telephone operator entrance exam, because she got to meet them. Awwwww.
** Pablo and Marga's obvious, devoted love for each other.
** Pablo and Marga's obvious, devoted love for each other.
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** [[DarkAndTroubledPast Lidia's backstory]] is also quite sad. She started off as [[NaiveNewcomer an optimistic, starry-eyed teenager]] bound for a new life and a new start with her boyfriend in Madrid. But then a misunderstanding led to her arrest, her separation from Francisco, her recruitment by a brothel keeper, and then many years of having to lie, cheat, and seduce men for her survival. Then, at the very beginning of the series, her OnlyFriend gets murdered, and she gets arrested for it and blackmailed. Yikes.
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** [[DarkAndTroubledPast Lidia's backstory]] is also quite sad. She started off as [[NaiveNewcomer an optimistic, starry-eyed teenager]] bound for a new life and a new start with her boyfriend in Madrid. But then a misunderstanding led to her arrest, her separation from Francisco, her recruitment by a brothel keeper, and then many years of having to lie, cheat, and seduce men for her survival. Then, at the very beginning ''very beginning'' of the series, her OnlyFriend gets murdered, and she gets arrested for it and blackmailed. Yikes.
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** Lidia's backstory is also quite sad. She started off as [[NaiveNewcomer an optimistic, starry-eyed teenager]] bound for a new life and a new start with her boyfriend in Madrid. But then a misunderstanding led to her arrest, her separation from Francisco, her recruitment by a brothel keeper, and then many years of having to lie, cheat, and seduce men for her survival. Then, at the very beginning of the series, her OnlyFriend gets murdered, and she gets arrested for it and blackmailed. Yikes.
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** [[DarkAndTroubledPast Lidia's backstory backstory]] is also quite sad. She started off as [[NaiveNewcomer an optimistic, starry-eyed teenager]] bound for a new life and a new start with her boyfriend in Madrid. But then a misunderstanding led to her arrest, her separation from Francisco, her recruitment by a brothel keeper, and then many years of having to lie, cheat, and seduce men for her survival. Then, at the very beginning of the series, her OnlyFriend gets murdered, and she gets arrested for it and blackmailed. Yikes.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Mario [[spoiler: beating up his wife Ángeles so badly that she miscarries what would have been their second child.]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: Mario [[spoiler: beating up his wife Ángeles so badly that she miscarries what would have been their second child.]]]]tee
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* TearJerker: Ángeles [[spoiler: losing her second baby]] and the increasing hopelessness of her situation as every attempt she makes to get away from Mario fails. [[spoiler: Eventually, she has to kill him, with the help of her friends.]]
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* TearJerker: Ángeles [[spoiler: losing her second baby]] and the increasing hopelessness of her situation as every attempt she makes to get away from Mario fails. [[spoiler: Eventually, she has to kill him, with the help of her friends.]]]]
** Lidia's backstory is also quite sad. She started off as [[NaiveNewcomer an optimistic, starry-eyed teenager]] bound for a new life and a new start with her boyfriend in Madrid. But then a misunderstanding led to her arrest, her separation from Francisco, her recruitment by a brothel keeper, and then many years of having to lie, cheat, and seduce men for her survival. Then, at the very beginning of the series, her OnlyFriend gets murdered, and she gets arrested for it and blackmailed. Yikes.
** Lidia's backstory is also quite sad. She started off as [[NaiveNewcomer an optimistic, starry-eyed teenager]] bound for a new life and a new start with her boyfriend in Madrid. But then a misunderstanding led to her arrest, her separation from Francisco, her recruitment by a brothel keeper, and then many years of having to lie, cheat, and seduce men for her survival. Then, at the very beginning of the series, her OnlyFriend gets murdered, and she gets arrested for it and blackmailed. Yikes.
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** [[NiceGuy Pablo,]] as soon as he finds out that Mario is an abusive husband, jumping right into the girls' escape plan for Ángeles and her daughter (without being asked) by keeping Mario stalled at work for as long as he can. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, Mario figures out what's going on and stops his wife, but Pablo really tries, and Marga realizes what a good man she's snagged.]]
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** Ángeles and the other girls [[spoiler: finally taking down [[AssholeVictim Mario.]]]]
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** Doña Carmen [[spoiler: arranging for Lidia to be kidnapped and forced to have an abortion. It's Doña Carmen's own grandchild that she wants aborted, to boot, because Lidia's not of the right social class to marry her son Carlos.]]
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** Doña Carmen [[spoiler: arranging for Lidia to be kidnapped and forced to have an abortion. It's Doña Carmen's own grandchild that she wants aborted, to boot, because Lidia's not of the right social class to marry her son Carlos.]]
* TearJerker: Ángeles [[spoiler: losing her second baby]] and the increasing hopelessness of her situation as every attempt she makes to get away from Mario fails. [[spoiler: Eventually, she has to kill him, with the help of her friends.]]
* TearJerker: Ángeles [[spoiler: losing her second baby]] and the increasing hopelessness of her situation as every attempt she makes to get away from Mario fails. [[spoiler: Eventually, she has to kill him, with the help of her friends.]]
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Elisa (in season 2), sick of being treated like a [[IllGirl fragile, invalid child]] by her family, [[TookALevelInBadass finally plays the same game that everyone else is playing]] (negotiating with favours for favours/backstabbing) to escape to mother's plan to have her locked up in a sanitarium for the rest of her life.
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* CompleteMonster: Mario, hands down. He's by far the cruelest and most violent character on the show, and the only time he shows even the tiniest bit of remorse for his actions is when [[spoiler: Ángeles miscarries their baby. And he only cares because it was his potential child/property that was lost. He has no concern for his wife's well-being at all.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Mario, hands down. He's by far the cruelest and most violent character on the show, and the only time he shows the tiniest bit of remorse for his actions is when [[spoiler: Ángeles miscarries their baby. And he only cares because it was his potential child/property that was lost. He has no concern for his wife's well-being at all.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Mario, hands down. He's by far the cruelest and most violent character on the show, and the only time he shows even the tiniest bit of remorse for his actions is when [[spoiler: Ángeles miscarries their baby. And he only cares because it was his potential child/property that was lost. He has no concern for his wife's well-being at all.]]
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** Doña Carmen [[spoiler: arranging for Lidia to be kidnapped and forced to have an abortion. It's Doña Carmen own grandchild that she wants aborted, to boot, because Lidia's not of the right social class to marry her son Carlos.]]
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** Doña Carmen [[spoiler: arranging for Lidia to be kidnapped and forced to have an abortion. It's Doña Carmen Carmen's own grandchild that she wants aborted, to boot, because Lidia's not of the right social class to marry her son Carlos.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Mario, hands down. He's by far the cruelest and most violent character on the show, and the only time he shows the tiniest bit of remorse for his actions is when [[spoiler: Ángeles miscarries their baby. And he only cares because it was his potential child/property that was lost. He has no concern for his wife's well-being at all.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: Mario [[spoiler: beating up his wife Ángeles so badly that she miscarries what would have been their second child.]]
** Doña Carmen [[spoiler: arranging for Lidia to be kidnapped and forced to have an abortion. It's Doña Carmen own grandchild that she wants aborted, to boot, because Lidia's not of the right social class to marry her son Carlos.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: Mario [[spoiler: beating up his wife Ángeles so badly that she miscarries what would have been their second child.]]
** Doña Carmen [[spoiler: arranging for Lidia to be kidnapped and forced to have an abortion. It's Doña Carmen own grandchild that she wants aborted, to boot, because Lidia's not of the right social class to marry her son Carlos.]]