History YMMV / BuffytheVampireSlayer

2nd Nov '17 6:59:16 PM Repo
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** Misogynistic BigBadWannabe Warren has a large hate base as well, for reasons not unrelated to [[spoiler:killing Tara]] (which he did while attempting to kill Buffy).



** Xander is this to some fans, who find him to be a bit of a self-righteous hypocrite who never gets called out for his behavior.
30th Oct '17 4:59:51 PM LongLiveHumour
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** Similarly, in "Surprise" Drusilla freaks out over some flower decorations, mumbling that ''they're wrong, they're wrong, they're all wrong''. Those flowers? Red roses. Given the events of "Passions", this is almost certainly not an accident.
24th Oct '17 11:54:09 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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** During career day, Willow questions out loud if she likes [tress or shrubs (another word for bushes) more. Xander replies, "That's between you and your god." and that he definitely likes shrubs, while Buffy says "No shrubs for me!" Willow turns out to be a lesbian..
** At one point, Willow questions if she's the only one who reads Series/DoogieHowserMD FanFic. Guess who stars alongside Willow's actress in Series/HowIMetYourMother, and played the lead in another Joss Whedon [[WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog project]]?

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** During career day, Willow questions out loud if she likes [tress or shrubs (another word for bushes) more. Xander replies, "That's between you and your god." and that he definitely likes shrubs, while Buffy says "No shrubs for me!" Willow turns out to be a lesbian..
lesbian.
** At one point, Willow questions if she's the only one who reads Series/DoogieHowserMD ''Series/DoogieHowserMD'' FanFic. Guess who [[Creator/NeilPatrickHarris who]] stars alongside Willow's actress in Series/HowIMetYourMother, on ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'', and played the lead in another Joss Whedon [[WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog project]]?
25th Sep '17 6:12:54 PM ClintEastwood
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** Gwendolyn Post is [[Film/TheWorldIsNotEnough Dr. Molly Warmflash]].

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** [[Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS3E7Revelations Gwendolyn Post Post]] is [[Film/TheWorldIsNotEnough Dr. Molly Warmflash]].
25th Sep '17 6:02:16 PM ClintEastwood
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** Buffy in "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS5E22TheGift}} The Gift]]" is portrayed as heroic for wanting to protect Dawn at all costs, even though she knows it means unimaginable suffering and probable death for herself - never mind that she knows that it also means [[spoiler:unimaginable suffering and probable death for everyone and everything else in existence, including Dawn, meaning that she basically just wants to end the world for no reason.]] The fact that she [[spoiler: eventually sacrifices herself is arguably not heroic either - she's the Slayer, and season 6 shows how fast Sunnydale could be overrun without her. The most noble and selfless choice for the good of everyone would've arguably been if she had sacrificed Dawn. The fans, after all [[TheScrappy wouldn't have minded that much.]] Her death was probably due to meta reasons of wanting an excuse to end the show once the 5 year contract was up and the writers didn't know if anyone would renew them.]]

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** Buffy in "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS5E22TheGift}} The Gift]]" is portrayed as heroic for wanting to protect Dawn at all costs, even though she knows it means unimaginable suffering and probable death for herself - never mind that she knows that it also means [[spoiler:unimaginable suffering and probable death for everyone and everything else in existence, including Dawn, meaning that she basically just wants to end the world for no reason.]] The fact that she [[spoiler: eventually sacrifices herself is arguably not heroic either - she's the Slayer, and season 6 shows how fast Sunnydale could be overrun without her. The most noble and selfless choice for the good of everyone would've arguably been if she had sacrificed Dawn. The fans, after all [[TheScrappy wouldn't have minded that much.]] Her death was probably due to meta reasons of wanting an excuse to end the show once the 5 year contract was up and the writers didn't know if anyone would renew them.]]
11th Sep '17 6:57:28 PM SamMax
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* AdaptationDisplacement: The film has faded into almost complete obscurity and is today remembered pretty much only for being adapted into the series. Some fans of the series probably weren't even aware that a movie was made. Few have seen the movie. Whedon considers his script -- not the film that was actually made -- to be canon.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: The film has faded into almost complete obscurity and is today remembered pretty much only for being adapted into the series. Some fans of the series probably weren't even aware that a movie was made. Few have seen the movie. Whedon considers his script -- not the film that was actually made -- to be canon.canon, making this one of the few ''intentional'' examples of this trope.
5th Sep '17 6:14:11 PM kyeo
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** Xander, either the lovable ButtMonkey and [[TheHeart Heart of the Slayer Machine]], or a hypocritical jerk who is way too judgmental of Buffy whenever she screws up, especially in regards to Angel and Spike -- or any other guy she's interested in, for that matter, even when it's none of his business.

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** Xander, either the lovable ButtMonkey and [[TheHeart Heart of the Slayer Machine]], or a hypocritical jerk who is way too judgmental of Buffy whenever she screws up, especially in regards to Angel and Spike -- or any other guy she's interested in, for that matter, even when it's none of his business. There's also some debate as to whether his preoccupation with sex is just a normal teenage straight guy's disposition or a creepy lecherous quality.
13th Aug '17 8:31:33 PM randomguy399
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** [[Creator/JossWhedon Joss]] first realized that Creator/DavidBoreanaz could carry [[Series/{{Angel}} his own show]] after being wowed by his performance in "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS2E19IOnlyHaveEyesForYou}} I Only Have Eyes For You]]". In addition, fans who were still skeptical about DB's acting ability up to that point also changed their minds after seeing him play [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Angelus]], which was a complete 180 from the brooding, lover-boy Angel we were used to.

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** [[Creator/JossWhedon Joss]] first realized that Creator/DavidBoreanaz could carry [[Series/{{Angel}} his own show]] after being wowed by his performance in "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS2E19IOnlyHaveEyesForYou}} I Only Have Eyes For You]]". In addition, fans who were still skeptical about DB's Boreanaz's acting ability up to that point also changed their minds after seeing him play [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Angelus]], which was a complete 180 from the brooding, lover-boy Angel we they were used to.



** Angelus, anyone?



* MemeticLoser: Xander Harris. The man shall always be [[ButtMonkey 'The Zeppo']] of the Scooby Gang, one of the guys who [[Creator/JossWhedon Whedon]] goes above and beyond the call of duty [[SignatureStyle of]] [[DeusAngstMachina putting through the wringer]]. The fact that his [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moments Of Awesome]] are (for the most part) talking his way to victory (ex. bluffing a MadBomber zombie into running away on "The Zeppo", [[BavarianFireDrill getting]] [[NoManOfWomanBorn the]] [[StuffBlowingUp rocket]] [[MugglesDoItBetter launcher]] to destroy [[TheJuggernaut The Judge]], [[CooldownHug confronting]] [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide DarkSide]]!Willow when [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery she decides to wipe out the planet]]) rather than beat the hell out of the bad guy doesn't help. If anything, fanfic attempts to [[TookALevelInBadass give him a level in badass]] tend to [[PossessionSue go the other way]].



* {{Narm}}:
** The occasional instance of FightSceneFailure in the early seasons. Also, the SpecialEffectFailure with the Mayor's Ascension in the Season 3 finale.

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{{Narm}}: The occasional instance of FightSceneFailure in the early seasons. Also, the SpecialEffectFailure with the Mayor's Ascension in the Season 3 finale.finale, though the high stakes and buildup to the scene make it NarmCharm in a way.



** Her replacement Kennedy achieves this in season nine, where she suddenly becomes cool. She sets up a bodyguard agency and offers Buffy work, her personality is less about how gay and selfish she is and with Willow gone for the time acts the way she thinks her ex would. [[CrazyPrepared Loading up on guns, grenades and a sword for corporate terrorism doesn't hurt either.]]



** [[BrokenBase Depending on who you ask]], Kennedy achieves this in season nine, where she suddenly becomes cool. She sets up a bodyguard agency and offers Buffy work, her personality is less about how gay and selfish she is and with Willow gone for the time acts the way she thinks her ex would. [[CrazyPrepared Loading up on guns, grenades and a sword for corporate terrorism doesn't hurt either.]]



** For Willow/Kennedy in season 7, the writers didn't even try at all. Literally the only reason they start a relationship is because Kennedy is also a lesbian, and Kennedy seems determined to not have any likable traits whatsoever. It's a huge letdown after Willow and Tara's relationship, which out of the whole show had the most build-up and most development.

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** For Willow/Kennedy in season 7, the writers didn't even try at all.Willow and Kennedy. Literally the only reason they start a relationship is because Kennedy is also a lesbian, and Kennedy seems determined to not have any likable traits whatsoever. It's a huge letdown after Willow and Tara's relationship, which out of the whole show had arguably the most build-up and most development.
13th Aug '17 8:09:52 PM randomguy399
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13th Aug '17 8:09:51 PM randomguy399
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Amilyn, mostly for his death scene and for being played by Pee-Wee Herman himself, Creator/PaulReubens.

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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Amilyn, mostly for his death scene and for being played by Pee-Wee Herman himself, Creator/PaulReubens.
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