History YMMV / BooksOfSamuel

7th Jul '16 9:01:25 PM DoctorCooper
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* EvilIsSexy: Saul is described as handsome and he became a villain. It is unknown whether he kept his looks, though.

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* EvilIsSexy: Saul is described as handsome and he became a villain. It is unknown whether he kept his looks, though. There is also Absalom, who was as handsome as his father David.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: After Absalom's rebellion fails because Joab kills him despite David's explicit orders to the contrary, David becomes extremely sad and the story clearly expects us to feel sympathy for the man who just lost one of his sons. Joab goes to his uncle and tells him to [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan man up and behave like a king should]], [[QuitYourWhining stop crying like a child]] and criticizes him to the face how he constantly constantly shows goodwill to people who try to harm him while [[UngratefulBastard showing no gratitude to those who faithfully serve him]]. Not even the narrative denies that Joab, morally ambiguous as he is, has something of a point by now, especially since David does just what his nephew tells him afterwards.
1st Apr '16 11:14:54 PM DoctorCooper
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* MoralEventHorizon: Saul crossed it when he kills the priests of Nob and their family and livestock. His act was so grave that only Doeg the Edomite of his troops supported him in that act.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Saul crossed it when he kills killed the priests of Nob and their family and livestock. His act was so grave that only Doeg the Edomite of his troops supported him in that act.
1st Apr '16 11:14:21 PM DoctorCooper
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* EvilIsSexy: Saul is described as handsome and he became a villain. It is unknown whether he kept his looks, though.



* MoralEventHorizon: Saul crossed it when he kills the priests of Nob and their family and livestock. His act was so grave that only Doeg the Edomite of his troops supported him in that act.



* ValuesDissonance: Basically, Saul lost his divine support after disobeying divine orders by being insufficiently thorough committing a genocide in which every man, woman, child and animal of the nation of Amalek was to be exterminated.
** In fairness, the Amalekites were [[AssholeVictim asshole victim's]] who mocked God and launched many unprovoked attacks on the Israelites.

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* ValuesDissonance: Basically, Saul lost his divine support after disobeying divine orders by being insufficiently thorough committing a genocide in which every man, woman, child and animal of the nation of Amalek was to be exterminated.
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exterminated. In fairness, the Amalekites were [[AssholeVictim asshole victim's]] {{Asshole Victim}}s who mocked God and launched many unprovoked attacks on the Israelites.
21st Mar '16 3:06:43 AM Sebastian87
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: After Absalom's rebellion fails because Joab kills him despite David's explicit orders to the contrary, David becomes extremely sad and the story clearly expects us to feel sympathy for the man who just lost one of his sons. Joab goes to his uncle and tells him to [[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan man up and behave like a king should]], [[QuitYourWhining stop crying like a child]] and criticizes him to the face how he constantly constantly shows goodwill to people who try to harm him while [[UngratefulBastard showing no gratitude to those who faithfully serve him]]. Not even the narrative denies that Joab, morally ambiguous as he is, has something of a point by now, especially since David does just what his nephew tells him afterwards.
20th Jan '16 5:45:07 AM Naoto_best_waifu
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** What make this passage even worse is this story was used as late as the 1980s as a object lesson in obedience in teaching materials for North American childrens ''Sunday Schools''.

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** What make this passage even worse is this story was used as late as In fairness, the 1980s as a object lesson in obedience in teaching materials for North American childrens ''Sunday Schools''.Amalekites were [[AssholeVictim asshole victim's]] who mocked God and launched many unprovoked attacks on the Israelites.
29th Nov '15 12:16:47 PM Xythos
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* TheWoobie: Poor, poor Tamar. Her half-brother Amnon rapes her and David does nothing to punish him. Her brother Absalom is the only one to care about her.
12th Jul '14 3:11:25 AM fusilcontrafusil
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* HoYay: They were like the [[Franchise/{{Naruto}} Naruto and Sasuke]] for medieval {{Yaoi Fangirl}}s.

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* HoYay: They David and Jonathan were like the [[Franchise/{{Naruto}} Naruto and Sasuke]] for medieval {{Yaoi Fangirl}}s.
27th Dec '13 8:58:52 AM kchishol
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* ValuesDissonance: Basically, Saul lost his divine support after disobeying divine orders by being insufficiently thorough committing a genocide in which every man, woman, child and animal of the nation of Amalek was to be exterminated.
** What make this passage even worse is this story was used as late as the 1980s as a object lesson in obedience in teaching materials for North American childrens ''Sunday Schools''.
24th Dec '13 7:54:16 PM JIKTV
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* HoYay: They were like the [[{{Naruto}} Naruto and Sasuke]] for medieval YaoiFans.

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* HoYay: They were like the [[{{Naruto}} [[Franchise/{{Naruto}} Naruto and Sasuke]] for medieval YaoiFans.{{Yaoi Fangirl}}s.
4th Jul '13 3:43:53 PM 313Bluestreak
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* WheelchairWoobie: Mephiboseth.
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