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History YMMV / BlackWidow

23rd May '16 2:23:16 PM NubianSatyress
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** Her tendency to get ShipTease with different male characters in each film (Tony Stark in ''Iron Man 2'', Clint Barton in ''The Avengers'' [though a lot of people considered this platonic], Steve Rogers in ''Captain America: The Winter Soldier'' [again, it's actually platonic in the film but advertisements for the film hinted at it differently], and Bruce Banner in ''Age of Ultron''). The latter was very contested and sometimes considered sexist because Widow is a Smurfette and her character arc was based on romance. Being romantically connected to her teammates is a [[OlderThanTheyThink trait of her comic self]], but it was still scrutinized for various reasons. Although of course, that only leads to critics suggesting that trait ought to be retired or question why it was implemented in the first place. The debate rages as to whether or not the FemmeFatale trope should still be a massive part of her, or at least something noticeable about her.

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** Her tendency to get ShipTease with different male characters in each film (Tony Stark in ''Iron Man 2'', Clint Barton in ''The Avengers'' [though a lot of people considered this platonic], Steve Rogers in ''Captain America: The Winter Soldier'' [again, it's actually platonic in the film but advertisements for the film hinted at it differently], and Bruce Banner in ''Age of Ultron''). The latter was very contested and sometimes considered sexist because Widow is a Smurfette and her character arc was based on romance. Being romantically connected to her teammates is a [[OlderThanTheyThink trait of her comic self]], but it was still scrutinized for various reasons. Although of course, that only leads to critics suggesting reasons, such as whether that trait ought to should be retired or question why it was implemented in the first place. The debate rages as to and whether or not the Banner romance counts as part of her FemmeFatale trope should still be a massive part of her, or at least something noticeable about persona since it seems like sincere true love from her.
23rd May '16 2:20:25 PM NubianSatyress
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** Her tendency to get ShipTease with different male characters in each film (Tony Stark in ''Iron Man 2'', Clint Barton in ''The Avengers'' [though a lot of people considered this platonic], Steve Rogers in ''Captain America: The Winter Soldier'' [again, it's actually platonic in the film but advertisements for the film hinted at it differently], and Bruce Banner in ''Age of Ultron'') led to accusations of sexism, which wouldn't be unfounded if not for the fact her being romantically teased with different male characters, and some female characters, is a [[OlderThanTheyThink trait of her comic self]]. Although of course, that only leads to critics suggesting that trait ought to be retired or question why it was implemented in the first place. The debate rages as to whether or not the FemmeFatale trope should still be a massive part of her, or at least something noticeable about her.

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** Her tendency to get ShipTease with different male characters in each film (Tony Stark in ''Iron Man 2'', Clint Barton in ''The Avengers'' [though a lot of people considered this platonic], Steve Rogers in ''Captain America: The Winter Soldier'' [again, it's actually platonic in the film but advertisements for the film hinted at it differently], and Bruce Banner in ''Age of Ultron'') led to accusations of sexism, which wouldn't be unfounded if not for the fact Ultron''). The latter was very contested and sometimes considered sexist because Widow is a Smurfette and her being character arc was based on romance. Being romantically teased with different male characters, and some female characters, connected to her teammates is a [[OlderThanTheyThink trait of her comic self]].self]], but it was still scrutinized for various reasons. Although of course, that only leads to critics suggesting that trait ought to be retired or question why it was implemented in the first place. The debate rages as to whether or not the FemmeFatale trope should still be a massive part of her, or at least something noticeable about her.
17th May '16 7:09:07 PM worldbreaker
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*SpotlightStealingSquad: The general criticism surrounding the book is that despite the fact that the book has Natasha's name plastered all over the cover the majority of the focus is really about Ava while Natasha plays a secondary role.
14th May '16 2:28:41 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Ivan Somodorov]], from ''Literature/BlackWidow: Forever Red'', Natasha's EvilMentor, was a former instructor at the [[SpySchool Red Room]], and was known and feared throughout the institution for [[SadistTeacher his intense cruelty toward his students]], all [[WouldHurtAChild barely teenage children]]; Ivan subjected his students to horrific [[MindRape emotional]] and physical abuse, and would then psychologically tear them down completely before reforming them into emotionless weapons with the sole purpose of assassination. After strong-arming numerous scientists into his service by threatening their lives and those of their families, Ivan forced them to build him the O.P.U.S., a machine that used [[ElectricTorture electroshock torture]] to impant into its victims a latent assassination programming; Ivan used this technology almost solely on children, before [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness murdering all those who assisted him in the project]]. After implanting his dozens of new, unknowing, soldiers into various governments, Ivan planned to used worldwide to kill hundreds of high-ranking government officials, scientists, and anyone who could get in his way, at which point he would use his new army of assassins to institute his own government and TakeOverTheWorld. When ComicBook/BlackWidow attempts to thwart his plan, Ivan sics his ChildSoldiers on her, knowing she will be forced to go easy on them. Black Widow has dealt with tyrants, assassins, and superpowered monsters throughout her career, but Ivan Somdorov was the worst of them all.
25th Apr '16 11:38:53 AM JamesAustin
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* InternetBackdraft: Her lack of a film in the MCU is probably one of the most well-known criticisms fans of the MCU, and in particular Black Widow fans in general, have of the franchise. Her tendency to get ShipTease with different male characters each film (Tony in ''Iron Man 2'', Clint (though a lot of people considered this platonic) in ''The Avengers'', Steve in ''Captain America The Winter Soldier'' (again, its actually platonic in the film but advertisements for the film hinted at it differently), and Bruce Banner in ''Age of Ultron'') also leads to accusations of sexism, which wouldn't be unfounded if not for the fact her being romantically teased with different male characters, and some female characters, is a [[OlderThanTheyThink trait of her comic self]]. Although of course, that only leads to critics suggesting that trait ought to be retired or question why it was implemented in the first place. The debate rages as to whether or not the FemmeFatale trope should still be a massive part of her, or at least something noticeable about her.
* ShipToShipCombat: Clintasha and Bucktasha fandoms don't have the best track record of getting along, resulting in many Clintasha fans bemoaning that she'd be prominent in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' as it was bringing in Bucky's present day self.
** And then it turned out that her MCU love interest was actually [[spoiler:''Bruce Banner''. Sadly it didn't seem to last.]]

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Her lack of a film in the MCU is probably one of the most well-known criticisms fans of the MCU, and in particular Black Widow fans in general, have of the franchise. franchise.
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Her tendency to get ShipTease with different male characters in each film (Tony Stark in ''Iron Man 2'', Clint (though Barton in ''The Avengers'' [though a lot of people considered this platonic) in ''The Avengers'', platonic], Steve Rogers in ''Captain America America: The Winter Soldier'' (again, its [again, it's actually platonic in the film but advertisements for the film hinted at it differently), differently], and Bruce Banner in ''Age of Ultron'') also leads led to accusations of sexism, which wouldn't be unfounded if not for the fact her being romantically teased with different male characters, and some female characters, is a [[OlderThanTheyThink trait of her comic self]]. Although of course, that only leads to critics suggesting that trait ought to be retired or question why it was implemented in the first place. The debate rages as to whether or not the FemmeFatale trope should still be a massive part of her, or at least something noticeable about her.
* ShipToShipCombat: Clintasha and Bucktasha fandoms don't have the best track record of getting along, resulting in many Clintasha fans bemoaning that she'd be prominent in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' as it was bringing in Bucky's present day self.
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self. And then it turned out that her MCU love interest was actually [[spoiler:''Bruce Banner''. Sadly Banner'', though it didn't seem to last.]]
21st Apr '16 7:37:28 PM Terran117
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* InternetBackdraft: Her lack of a film in the MCU is probably one of the most well-known criticisms fans of the MCU, and in particular Black Widow fans in general, have of the franchise. Her tendency to get ShipTease with different male characters each film (Tony in ''Iron Man 2'', Clint (though a lot of people considered this platonic) in ''The Avengers'', Steve in ''Captain America The Winter Soldier'' (again, its actually platonic in the film but advertisements for the film hinted at it differently), and Bruce Banner in ''Age of Ultron'') also leads to accusations of sexism, which wouldn't be unfounded if not for the fact her being romantically teased with different male characters, and some female characters, is a [[OlderThanTheyThink trait of her comic self]].

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* InternetBackdraft: Her lack of a film in the MCU is probably one of the most well-known criticisms fans of the MCU, and in particular Black Widow fans in general, have of the franchise. Her tendency to get ShipTease with different male characters each film (Tony in ''Iron Man 2'', Clint (though a lot of people considered this platonic) in ''The Avengers'', Steve in ''Captain America The Winter Soldier'' (again, its actually platonic in the film but advertisements for the film hinted at it differently), and Bruce Banner in ''Age of Ultron'') also leads to accusations of sexism, which wouldn't be unfounded if not for the fact her being romantically teased with different male characters, and some female characters, is a [[OlderThanTheyThink trait of her comic self]]. Although of course, that only leads to critics suggesting that trait ought to be retired or question why it was implemented in the first place. The debate rages as to whether or not the FemmeFatale trope should still be a massive part of her, or at least something noticeable about her.
27th Jan '16 5:41:46 AM Haleryst45
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* FanPreferredCouple: By default of no longer being together, her and Bucky became this for comic audiences. With the films, her and Clint is also the most popular het couple, but even there Bucktasha is still popular there.

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* FanPreferredCouple: By default of no longer being together, her and Bucky became this for comic audiences. With the films, her and Clint is also the most popular het couple, but even there Bucktasha is still popular there.popular.
4th Nov '15 8:11:34 AM Austin
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* BreakoutCharacter: In the MCU at least; she showed up in ''Film/{{Iron Man 2}}'' but was something of a BaseBreaker at the time. ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', however, gave her a huge boost in popularity and a lot of depth, along with giving future films a lot more to work with. Now she's the most prominent character without a film, and even that is likely to change soon.
4th Oct '15 10:28:22 AM nombretomado
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* BreakoutCharacter: In the MCU at least; she showed up in ''Film/{{Iron Man 2}}'' but was something of a BaseBreaker at the time. ''Film/{{The Avengers}}'', however, gave her a huge boost in popularity and a lot of depth, along with giving future films a lot more to work with. Now she's the most prominent character without a film, and even that is likely to change soon.

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* BreakoutCharacter: In the MCU at least; she showed up in ''Film/{{Iron Man 2}}'' but was something of a BaseBreaker at the time. ''Film/{{The Avengers}}'', Avengers|2012}}'', however, gave her a huge boost in popularity and a lot of depth, along with giving future films a lot more to work with. Now she's the most prominent character without a film, and even that is likely to change soon.
17th Aug '15 12:52:04 PM Deadbeatloser22
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* MemeticSexGoddess: She is one of most beautiful and desirable women in Marvel after all.
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