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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Ashley St. Ives is a secondary character who drops out of the film when there are still nearly 50 minutes of runtime left, but is considered to steal every scene she's in with her hilariously hammy lines. It certainly doesn't hurt that she's drop-dead sexy, either.

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* CrazyIsCool: Z-Man and Ashley's respective brands of off-kilter behavior really make them stand out and they are often referred to as the most entertaining characters because of it.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Ashley St. Ives is a secondary supporting character who drops out of the film when there are still nearly 50 minutes of runtime left, but is considered to steal every scene she's in with her hilariously hammy lines. It certainly doesn't hurt that she's drop-dead sexy, either.
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* MorePopularSpinOff: It enjoys a better reputation than its basis ''Literature/ValleyOfTheDolls'', to the point that Creator/TheCriterionCollection only bought the latter because that was the condition for acquiring this one.

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* MorePopularSpinOff: It enjoys a better reputation than its basis ''Literature/ValleyOfTheDolls'', ''Film/ValleyOfTheDolls'', to the point that Creator/TheCriterionCollection only bought the latter because that was the condition for acquiring this one.
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* HilariousInHindsight: With Creator/RogerEbert as the film's writer, the fact that his future TV co-host Creator/GeneSiskel gave it zero stars and put it on his 20 Worst Films of 1970 list. He even took a nice veiled shot at Ebert in the review.
-->"Boredom aplenty is provided by a screenplay which for some reason has been turned over to a screenwriting neophyte."
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* FoeYayShipping: There exists fanfiction shipping Harris and Z-Man together in Archive of Our Own, never mind that Harris resents Z-Man for taking over the Carrie Nations and the bulk of their interactions is them glaring intensely at each other (actually, it might be ''because'' of that last part that the shipping exists).
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Baxter's fiance is introduced and forgotten immediately as he proposes to Susan. Lampshaded as well, because Z-Man ushers her off-screen.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Ashley St. Ives is a secondary character who drops out of the film when there are still nearly 50 minutes of runtime left, but is considered to steal every scene she's in with her hilariously hammy lines.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Baxter's fiance is introduced and forgotten immediately as he proposes to Susan. Lampshaded as well, because Z-Man Porter ushers her off-screen.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Ashley St. Ives is a secondary character who drops out of the film when there are still nearly 50 minutes of runtime left, but is considered to steal every scene she's in with her hilariously hammy lines. It certainly doesn't hurt that she's drop-dead sexy, either.



* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/PamGrier made her film debut as a partygoer. She is notoriously difficult to find in the film, though (Ebert himself admitted he never could), with some positing that whatever scene she was in ended up getting deleted.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/PamGrier made her film debut as a partygoer. She is notoriously difficult to find in the film, though (Ebert himself admitted he never could), with some positing that whatever scene she was in ended up getting deleted. She is nonetheless depicted on the Criterion cover (she's top-right).
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** Z-Man's delirious declaration to Lance when the latter spurns him: "Ere this night does wane, you will drink the black sperm of my vengeance!"
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* {{Moe}}: Casey's shy personality and big, sad doe eyes make her eminently endearing.
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* SignatureLine:
** "This is my happening and it freaks me out!" This is Z-Man rejoicing at one of his large wild parties. It went on to be quoted in ''Film/AustinPowers''.
** Immediately before that, there is Kelly's thought on Z-Man's happenings: "In a scene like this, you get a contact high!"
** And then there's this aggressively flirty and ambiguous line from Ashley to Harris: "I'd like to strap you on sometime." The line was later reused in Russ Meyer's ''Film/Up1976''.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Z-Man, the eccentric music producer, was based on real-life music producer Music/PhilSpector. At the end of the movie, Z-Man goes on a murder rampage. Three decades later, Phil Spector himself was revealed to have committed a murder. One of Z-Man's victims, [[spoiler:Roxanne]], is even killed with a gunshot to the mouth, the same way that Phil Spector would murder Lana Clarkson in 2003.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: HarsherInHindsight: Z-Man, the eccentric music producer, was based on real-life music producer Music/PhilSpector. At the end of the movie, Z-Man goes on a murder rampage. Three decades later, Phil Spector himself was revealed to have committed a murder. One of Z-Man's victims, [[spoiler:Roxanne]], is even killed with a gunshot to the mouth, the same way that Phil Spector would murder Lana Clarkson in 2003.



* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/PamGrier made her film debut as a partygoer.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/PamGrier made her film debut as a partygoer. She is notoriously difficult to find in the film, though (Ebert himself admitted he never could), with some positing that whatever scene she was in ended up getting deleted.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Z-Man, the eccentric music producer, was based on real-life music producer Music/PhilSpector. At the end of the movie, Z-Man goes on a murder rampage. Three decades later, Phil Spector himself was revealed to have committed a murder.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Z-Man, the eccentric music producer, was based on real-life music producer Music/PhilSpector. At the end of the movie, Z-Man goes on a murder rampage. Three decades later, Phil Spector himself was revealed to have committed a murder. One of Z-Man's victims, [[spoiler:Roxanne]], is even killed with a gunshot to the mouth, the same way that Phil Spector would murder Lana Clarkson in 2003.
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* TheWoobie: Poor Casey. She is the loneliest member of the Carrie Nations due to her lesbianism, gets insulted and harassed by Porter Hall, and never seems entirely comfortable or happy even when the band becomes a hit. Her friendship with Harris is strained after an ill-advised sexual encounter under the influence, making her pregnant, and the ensuing abortion is traumatic for her. She finally finds some fulfillment in her relationship with Roxanne, [[spoiler:only to die horribly in Z-Man's rampage.]]
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* MorePopularSpinOff: It enjoys a better reputation than its basis ''Literature/ValleyOfTheDolls'', to the point that Creator/TheCriterionCollection only bought the latter because that was the condition for acquiring this one.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Ashley St. Ives is a secondary character who drops out of the film when there are still nearly 50 minutes of runtime left, but is considered to steal every scene she's in with her hilariously hammy lines.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Z-Man, the eccentric producer, was based on real-life producer Music/PhilSpector. In the movie, Z-Man is revealed to be a murderer. Three decades later, Phil Spector himself was revealed to have committed a murder.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Z-Man, the eccentric music producer, was based on real-life music producer Music/PhilSpector. In At the end of the movie, Z-Man is revealed to be goes on a murderer.murder rampage. Three decades later, Phil Spector himself was revealed to have committed a murder.



* {{Squick}}: Z-Man revealing that he [[spoiler:(she?) has female breasts]].

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* {{Squick}}: Z-Man revealing that he [[spoiler:(she?) [[spoiler:he (she?) has female breasts]].
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* EarWorm: Most of the Kelly Affair/Carrie Nations songs. Sometimes Strawberry Alarm Clock too.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/PamGrier made her film debut as a partygoer.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Z-Man, the eccentric producer, was based on real-life producer Music/PhilSpector. In the movie, Z-Man is revealed to be a murderer. Three decades later, Phil Spector himself was revealed to have committed a murder.
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* {{Squick}}: Z-Man revealing that he [[spoiler:(she?) has female breasts]].

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Baxter's fiance is introduced and forgotten immediately as he proposes to Susan. Lampshaded as well because Z-Man ushers her off-screen.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments:
** The raves.
** There's nothing better than a Bentley. Not even a Rolls Royce.
* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
** The airplane sound effect when [[spoiler: Harris]] jumps out of the rafters.
** When [[spoiler: Z-Man]] dresses up in a Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} costume that looks nothing like Supergirl. Gold boots, purple jumpsuit, red cape and a crown...? The sideburns don't help either.
** When Harris and Z-Man get their faces super-imposed while the band plays and they shoot each other dirty, uh, angry looks at each other.
* EarWorm: Most of the Kelly Affair/Carrie Nations songs. Sometimes The Strawberry Alarm Clock too.
* NightmareFuel: Drug orgy party with green filter while 'The Sorcerer's Apprentice' plays in the background. Also [[spoiler: Z-Man topless]].

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Baxter's fiance is introduced and forgotten immediately as he proposes to Susan. Lampshaded as well well, because Z-Man ushers her off-screen.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments:
** The raves.
** There's nothing better than a Bentley. Not even a Rolls Royce.
* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
** The airplane sound effect when [[spoiler: Harris]] jumps out of the rafters.
** When [[spoiler: Z-Man]] dresses up in a Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} costume that looks nothing like Supergirl. Gold boots, purple jumpsuit, red cape and a crown...? The sideburns don't help either.
** When Harris and Z-Man get their faces super-imposed while the band plays and they shoot each other dirty, uh, angry looks at each other.
* EarWorm: Most of the Kelly Affair/Carrie Nations songs. Sometimes The Strawberry Alarm Clock too.
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: The raves.
* NightmareFuel: Drug orgy party with green filter while 'The "The Sorcerer's Apprentice' Apprentice" plays in the background. Also [[spoiler: Z-Man topless]].

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* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments Crowning Moment of Awesome]]: The raves.

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* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments Crowning Moment of Awesome]]: SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments:
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The raves.



* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment of Funny]]: The airplane sound effect when [[spoiler: Harris]] jumps out of the rafters.
** When [[spoiler: Z-Man]] dresses up in a Superwoman costume that looks nothing like Superwoman. Gold boots, purple jumpsuit, red cape and a crown..? The sideburns don't help either.
** When Harris and Z-Man get their faces super-imposed while the band plays and they shoot each other dirty looks. uh, angry looks at each other.

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* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment of Funny]]: SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
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The airplane sound effect when [[spoiler: Harris]] jumps out of the rafters.
** When [[spoiler: Z-Man]] dresses up in a Superwoman Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} costume that looks nothing like Superwoman. Supergirl. Gold boots, purple jumpsuit, red cape and a crown..crown...? The sideburns don't help either.
** When Harris and Z-Man get their faces super-imposed while the band plays and they shoot each other dirty looks. dirty, uh, angry looks at each other.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Baxter's fiances introduced and forgotten immediately as he proposes to Susan. Lampshaded as well because Z-Man ushers her off-screen.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Baxter's fiances fiance is introduced and forgotten immediately as he proposes to Susan. Lampshaded as well because Z-Man ushers her off-screen.
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* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments Cerowning Moment of Awesome]]: The raves.

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* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments Cerowning Crowning Moment of Awesome]]: The raves.



* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment of Awesome]]: The airplane sound effect when [[spoiler: Harris]] jumps out of the rafters.

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* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment of Awesome]]: Funny]]: The airplane sound effect when [[spoiler: Harris]] jumps out of the rafters.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: Most of the actresses were Playboy models beforehand.
** Edy Williams, who played Ashley St. Ives was photographed March '73.
** Dolly Read was featured three times. She was Ms. June '66, and on the cover in April '68.
** Cynthia Myers was photographed June of 1968 while only 17. They [[JailBaitWait waited until December '68 to publish the photos.]] She was even on the cover.
** Pam Grier is also in the film as an anonymous party-goer.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: The raves.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments Cerowning Moment of Awesome]]: The raves.



* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The airplane sound effect when [[spoiler: Harris]] jumps out of the rafters.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment of Awesome]]: The airplane sound effect when [[spoiler: Harris]] jumps out of the rafters.
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* Pam Grier is also in the film as an anonymous party-goer.

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* ** Pam Grier is also in the film as an anonymous party-goer.
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* HeyItsThatGuy: Most of the actresses were Playboy models beforehand.
** Edy Williams, who played Ashley St. Ives was photographed March '73.
** Dolly Read was featured three times. She was Ms. June '66, and on the cover in April '68.
** Cynthia Myers was photographed June of 1968 while only 17. They [[JailBaitWait waited until December '68 to publish the photos.]] She was even on the cover.
* Pam Grier is also in the film as an anonymous party-goer.

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* [=~So Bad It's Good~=]: An ingenious parody.

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* [=~So Bad It's Good~=]: SoBadItsGood: An ingenious parody.parody.
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* NightmareFuel: Drug orgy party with green filter while 'The Sorcerer's Apprentice' plays in the background. Also [[spoiler: Z-Man topless]].

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* NightmareFuel: Drug orgy party with green filter while 'The Sorcerer's Apprentice' plays in the background. Also [[spoiler: Z-Man topless]].topless]].
* [=~So Bad It's Good~=]: An ingenious parody.

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