History YMMV / BatmanEndgame

* HoYay: Ramped up in the final brawl between Batman and Joker. Capullo admitted to being intentional with some of the [[https://m0vie.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/batman-endgame32.jpg?w=468&h=206 angles]] as well as making the blood pool between the two form a broken heart.

* CrazyAwesome: Joker's parade floats complete with the Batcave's T-Rex that the Joker steals amongst other trophies and puts in Joker make-up.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The Joker being a [[UnreliableNarrator potential EldritchAbomination]]? ''How is that not an amazing thing!?'' Wouldn't that have completely {{justified|Trope}} his JokerImmunity, his sick inhumanity? Wouldn't that be great!? But turns out he just got Lazarus Pit water...

Let the reader beware, here be spoilers. Per wiki policy, YMMV are SpoilersOff.

* BrokenBase: Some fans are not exactly thrilled to have [[spoiler: ''another'' Joker story after his handling on the ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' arc, especially because this one aims to top ''that'' one in terms of "making ComicBook/TheJoker a threat" escalation. On the other hand, some fans like that it's the Joker ''and'' also like several scenes that have been spread throughout (such as the Batman Vs. Joker-ized Justice League sequence or the fact that he's such a hard-core threat ''[[EnemyMine that all of Batman's rogues' gallery are willing to band with Batman if they are to have a chance in Hell of beating the damn clown]]'')]].

* CrazyAwesome: Joker's parade floats complete with [[spoiler: the Batcave's T-Rex that the Joker steals amongst other trophies and puts in Joker make-up]].

* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[spoiler:Bruce Wayne's supposed death. Scott Snyder has already mentioned that he'll come back after the entire Bat-Cop storyline is done and was even advised by Dan Slott to do this and let the fans get angry. As it later appears, it's zig-zagged; while Bruce actually ''did'' die, he was revived by the [[ImmortalityInducer dionesium]]. However, he also lost all of his memories and knowledge of his training in the process, and is now working in the Narrows to aid the survivors of the Endgame there. While Alfred initially tried to get him to come back, he changed his mind later.]]

** [[spoiler: Jokerized]] Justice League members, especially Superman. What makes it [[NothingIsScarier creepier]] is that [[spoiler: their grinning clown faces don't appear until long after the toxin has already turned them homicidal, making it appear that they just went crazy on their own. Wonder Woman even states that she's ''always'' hated Batman and just hasn't gotten around to killing him until now.]]
** After the teasing of it in ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'', it's revealed [[spoiler: the Joker DOES hide under Jim Gordon's bed. And his bluff about know Batman's real identity? Not a bluff after all]].
** The effects of the new [[spoiler:Joker toxin, now a virus that transforms Gotham into a kind of LaughingMad ZombieApocalypse]].
** The page of [[spoiler: Joker slowly swimming towards the Batcave entrance]]. ''Jesus''.

* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: One of the biggest complaints about this storyline is that it hits the same highlights as ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' ([[spoiler: Joker scaring everybody (this time by making them believe that he's immortal or even a demon), dispersing Joker Venom in a fashion that infects many people in Gotham (this time as a virus), having people that Batman cares about Jokerised and used as weapons against him (this time by ''infecting the Justice League''), invading the Batcave, doing all of this out of a HoYay sense of WomanScorned (and being ItsAllAboutMe, deciding to wreck all of Gotham because he's essentially pulling one ''hell'' of a RageQuit), being pretty much unstoppable for a good chunk of the story (this time because he lucked into some of the raw element that makes the Lazarus Pits, giving him a powerful healing factor, which helps with the aforementioned attempt to make people he's a demon)...]]), only difference is the writers trying to make things go UpToEleven.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler: The Joker being a [[UnreliableNarrator potential]] EldritchAbomination]]? ''How is that not an amazing thing!?'' Wouldn't that have completely {{justified|Trope}} [[spoiler: his JokerImmunity, his sick inhumanity]]? Wouldn't that be great!? But [[spoiler: turns out he just got Lazarus Pit water]]...

* TheWoobie: Dr. Mareen Zaheer who simply commits the sin of trying to understand the Joker, [[spoiler: is made completely into a fool by Joker's Border alias who tells her an entirely plausible but most likely false story of who the Joker is. As she learns the deception, her whole life's work a lie, she eventually ends her part in the story with a gun with six bullets and five Jokerized Arkham patients (who are all tricked into believing their individual story is the true Joker origin despite Zaheer's protests) looking to rip her to shreds. Her ending is sadly ambiguous on whether she's firing at the patients or herself or both.]]

* OlderThanTheyThink: This isn't the first time Crazy Quilt has been DarkerAndEdgier - back in the 1980's, he nearly beat [[{{Robin}} Jason Todd]] to death.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler: The Joker being a [[UnreliableNarrator potential]] EldritchAbomination]]? ''How is that not an amazing thing!?'' Wouldn't that have completely {{justified|Trope}} [[spoiler: his JokerImmunity, his VillainSue tendencies, his sick inhumanity]]? Wouldn't that be great!? But [[spoiler: turns out he just got Lazarus Pit water]]...

** [[spoiler: Jokerized]] Justice League members, especially Superman.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler: The Joker being a [[UnreliableNarrator potential]] EldritchAbomination]]? ''How is that not an amazing thing!?'' Wouldn't that have completely {{justified|Trope}} [[spoiler: his JokerImmunity, his Villain Sue tendencies, his sick inhumanity]]? Wouldn't that be great!? But [[spoiler: turns out he just got Lazarus Pit water]]...

* BrokenBase: Some fans are not exactly thrilled to have [[spoiler: ''another'' Joker story after his handling on the ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' arc, especially because this one aims to top ''that'' one in terms of "making SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker a threat" escalation. On the other hand, some fans like that it's the Joker ''and'' also like several scenes that have been spread throughout (such as the Batman Vs. Joker-ized Justice League sequence or the fact that he's such a hard-core threat ''[[EnemyMine that all of Batman's rogues' gallery are willing to band with Batman if they are to have a chance in Hell of beating the damn clown]]'')]].

* BrokenBase: Some fans are not exactly thrilled to have [[spoiler: ''another'' Joker story after his handling on the ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' arc, especially because this one aims to top ''that'' one in terms of "making SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker a threat" escalation. On the other hand, some fans like that it's the Joker ''and'' also like several scenes that have been spread throughout (such as the Batman Vs. Joker-ized Justice League sequence or the fact that he's such a hard-core threat ''[[EnemyMine that all of Batman's rogues' gallery are willing to band with Batman if they are to have a chance in Hell of beating the damn clown]]'').]]
* CrazyAwesome: Joker's parade floats complete with [[spoiler: the Batcave's T-Rex that the Joker steals amongst other trophies and puts in Joker make-up.]]

** [[spoiler: Jokerized]] Justice League members, especially Superman
** After the teasing of it in ''DeathOfTheFamily'', it's revealed [[spoiler: the Joker DOES hide under Jim Gordon's bed. And his bluff about know Batman's real identity? Not a bluff after all.]]

** The page of [[spoiler: Joker slowly swimming towards the Batcave entrance.]] ''Jesus''.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler: The Joker being a [[UnreliableNarrator potential]] EldritchAbomination]]? ''How is that not an amazing thing!?'' Wouldn't that have completely [[JustifiedTrope justified]] [[spoiler: his JokerImmunity, his VillainSue tendencies, his sick inhumanity]]? Wouldn't that be great!? But [[spoiler: turns out he just got Lazarus Pit water...]]
* VillainSue: Holy crap, [[spoiler: '''SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker'''. The biggest complaint is that he's able to pull off the whole mess with ease, doing everything that he did similarly to his previous storyline but turned UpToEleven (and even with this, still being able to bypass any attempts by Batman and other characters to prevent things from going worse), and the fact that he's able to convince everybody (if only for a while) that he's ''a demon meant to curse Gotham''...]]

** After the teasing of it in ''DeathOfTheFamily'', it's revealed [[spoiler: the Joker DOES hide under Jim Gordon's bed. And his bluff about know Batman's real identity? Not a bluff after all.

* VillainSue: Holy crap, [[spoiler: '''SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker'''. The biggest complaint is that he's able to pull off the whole mess with ease, doing everything that he did similarly to his previous storyline but turned UpToEleven (and even with this, still being able to bypass any attempts by Batman and other characters to prevent things from going worse), and the fact that he's able to convince everybody (if only for a while) that he's ''a demon meant to curse Gotham''...]]

* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[spoiler:Bruce Wayne's supposed death. Scott Snyder has already mentioned that he'll come back after the entire Bat-Cop storyline is done and was even advised by Dan Slott to do this and let the fans get angry.]]

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler: The Joker being a [[UnreliableNarrator potential]] EldritchAbomination]]? ''How is that not an amazing thing!?'' Wouldn't that have completely [[JustifiedTrope justified]] [[spoiler: his JokerImmunity, his VillainSue tendencies, his sick [[CompleteMonster inhumanity]]]]? Wouldn't that be great!? But [[spoiler: turns out he just got Lazarus Pit water...]]

* TwiceToldTale: One of the biggest complaints about this storyline is that it hits the same highlights as ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' ([[spoiler: Joker scaring everybody (this time by making them believe that he's immortal or even a demon), dispersing Joker Venom in a fashion that infects many people in Gotham (this time as a virus), having people that Batman cares about Jokerised and used as weapons against him (this time by ''infecting the Justice League''), invading the Batcave, doing all of this out of a HoYay sense of WomanScorned (and being ItsAllAboutMe, deciding to wreck all of Gotham because he's essentially pulling one ''hell'' of a RageQuit), being pretty much unstoppable for a good chunk of the story (this time because he lucked into some of the raw element that makes the Lazarus Pits, giving him a powerful healing factor, which helps with the aforementioned attempt to make people he's a demon)...]]), only difference is the writers trying to make things go UpToEleven.

* VillainSue: Holy crap, [[spoiler: '''SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker'''. Not only are writers trying to up the ante after ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' (where he was ''this'' throughout), but there is also the most important part of his game, which is the implication that he is ''immortal'' (the ''ultimate'' representation of the JokerImmunity trope) and maybe even ''a demon''... an implication that is becoming more and more real as the arc goes through.]]

* BrokenBase:
** Some fans are not exactly thrilled to have [[spoiler: ''another'' Joker story after his handling on the ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' arc, especially because this one aims to top ''that'' one in terms of "making SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker a threat" escalation. On the other hand, some fans like that it's the Joker ''and'' also like several scenes that have been spread throughout (such as the Batman Vs. Joker-ized Justice League sequence or the fact that he's such a hard-core threat ''[[EnemyMine that all of Batman's rogues' gallery are willing to band with Batman if they are to have a chance in Hell of beating the damn clown]]'').]]

** Some fans are not exactly thrilled to have ''another'' Joker story after his handling on the ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' arc, especially because this one aims to top ''that'' one in terms of "making TheJoker a threat" escalation. On the other hand, some fans like that it's the Joker ''and'' also like several scenes that have been spread throughout (such as the Batman Vs. Joker-ized Justice League sequence or the fact that he's such a hard-core threat ''[[EnemyMine that all of Batman's rogues' gallery are willing to band with Batman if they are to have a chance in Hell of beating the damn clown]]'').
* VillainSue: Holy crap, '''TheJoker'''. Not only are writers trying to up the ante after DeathOfTheFamily (where he was ''this'' throughout), but there is also the most important part of his game, which is the implication that he is ''immortal'' (the ''ultimate'' representation of the JokerImmunity trope) and maybe even ''a demon''... an implication that is becoming more and more real as the arc goes through.

** Some fans are not exactly thrilled to have ''another'' Joker story after his handling on the ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' arc, especially because this one aims to top ''that'' one in terms of "making TheJoker a threat" escalation. On the other hand, some fans like that it's the Joker ''and'' also like several scenes that have been spread throughout (such as the Batman Vs. Joker-ized Justice League sequence or the fact that he's such a hard-core threat ''[[EnemyMine that all of Batman's rogues' gallery are willing to band with Batman if they are to have a chance in Hell of beating the damn clown]]).

** Some fans are not exactly thrilled to have ''another'' Joker story after his handling on the ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'' arc, especially because this one aims to top ''that'' one in terms of "making TheJoker a threat" escalation. On the other hand, some fans like that it's the Joker ''and'' also like several scenes that have been spread throughout (such as the Batman Vs. Joker-ized Justice League sequence).