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'''Freeze:'''It's the way they've always treated me. Nora was the only good thing in my life... and they took her from me. I don't care what I have to do to get her back.
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** A pop remix of the standard "Am I Blue" plays on the radio in Barbara Gordon's room. In the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' episode "This Little Piggy", Batman goes onstage in a nightclub and sings - you guessed it - "Am I Blue".
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** A pop remix of the standard "Am I Blue" plays on the radio in Barbara Gordon's room. In the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' episode "This Little Piggy", Batman goes onstage in a nightclub and sings - -- you guessed it - -- "Am I Blue".
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'''Freeze:''' It's the way they've always treated me. Nora was the only good thing in my life... and they took her from me. I don't care what I have to do to get her back.
* NightmareFuel: Mr. Freeze's revenge on the submarine crew. Imagine returning to the cave where your team's sub is parked after a scientific expedition...only to discover the frozen corpses of your comrades.
* NightmareFuel: Mr. Freeze's revenge on the submarine crew. Imagine returning to the cave where your team's sub is parked after a scientific expedition...only to discover the frozen corpses of your comrades.
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* HarsherInHindsight:
** The happy moments between Dick and Barbara, considering how later stories in the animated continuity imply that things eventually go badly between them.
** The later ''[[ComicBook/TheBatmanAdventures Batman: The Adventures Continue]]'' tie-in comic then reveals that Nora lived only a short few years and then died from the same illness.
** The happy moments between Dick and Barbara, considering how later stories in the animated continuity imply that things eventually go badly between them.
** The later ''[[ComicBook/TheBatmanAdventures Batman: The Adventures Continue]]'' tie-in comic then reveals that Nora lived only a short few years and then died from the same illness.
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* HilariousInHindsight: A pop remix of the standard "Am I Blue" plays on the radio in Barbara Gordon's room. In the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' episode "This Little Piggy", Batman goes onstage in a nightclub and sings - you guessed it - "Am I Blue".
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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
** A pop remix of the standard "Am I Blue" plays on the radio in Barbara Gordon's room. In the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' episode "This Little Piggy", Batman goes onstage in a nightclub and sings - you guessed it - "Am I Blue".
** The movie's subtitle is this when you realize that [[VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse Mortal Batman has met a guy named Sub-Zero in a crossover]].
** A pop remix of the standard "Am I Blue" plays on the radio in Barbara Gordon's room. In the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' episode "This Little Piggy", Batman goes onstage in a nightclub and sings - you guessed it - "Am I Blue".
** The movie's subtitle is this when you realize that [[VideoGame/MortalKombatVsDCUniverse Mortal Batman has met a guy named Sub-Zero in a crossover]].
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* HoYay: A huge YMMV regarding this one, but some of Freeze and Dr. Belson's interactions.
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* HoYay: A huge YMMV regarding this one, but some Some of Freeze and Dr. Belson's interactions.interactions can be interpreted in this way.
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* ShoutOut: Barbara's attempt to escape, only to be surprised to discover that she's trapped on an offshore oil rig, might have been inspired from ''Film/FaceOff'', except that ''Sub-Zero'' was already in production when ''Face/Off'' was released in June 1997, creating uncertainty as to whether it's a Shout-Out or a bizarre coincidence.
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* ShoutOut: Barbara's attempt to escape, only to be surprised to discover that she's trapped on an offshore oil rig, might have been inspired from ''Film/FaceOff'', except that ''Sub-Zero'' was already in production when ''Face/Off'' was released in June 1997, creating uncertainty as to whether it's a Shout-Out or a bizarre coincidence.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: The general consensus is that while Sub-Zero was a solid movie with good animation, it just wasn't as groundbreaking or as masterful as BatmanMaskOfThePhantasm or BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: The general consensus is that while Sub-Zero was a solid movie with good animation, it just wasn't as groundbreaking or as masterful as BatmanMaskOfThePhantasm ''WesternAnimation/BatmanMaskOfThePhantasm'' or BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker.''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker''.
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* HilariousInHindsight: A pop remix of the standard "Am I Blue" plays on the radio in Barbara Gordon's room. In the ''JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' episode "This Little Piggy", Batman goes onstage in a nightclub and sings - you guessed it - "Am I Blue".
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* HilariousInHindsight: A pop remix of the standard "Am I Blue" plays on the radio in Barbara Gordon's room. In the ''JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' episode "This Little Piggy", Batman goes onstage in a nightclub and sings - you guessed it - "Am I Blue".
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Trope misuse. Harsher In Hindsight is more when the character\'s death parallels that of their real-life actor. See the trope page for details.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Barbara's life being in danger is this since her actress, Mary Kay Bergman, committed suicide not long after the movie premiered.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Barbara's life being in danger is this since her actress, Mary Kay Bergman, committed suicide not long after the movie premiered.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The whole film is about Barbara's life being in danger. Her voice actress Mary Kay Bergman committed suicide a few years after making the film.
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** Being kidnapped for an involuntary organ transplant.
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** Being kidnapped for an involuntary organ transplant.
*** Adds a fine layer of FridgeHorror when you realize that there were seventeen other people on the list that were compatible with Nora's blood type. Seventeen ordinary people who aren't superheroes, who don't spend their time with the world's greatest detective, and wouldn't have the police commissioner sending all available forces to look for them. If Mr. Freeze had chosen anyone else on that list, they would have been brutally killed.
*** Adds a fine layer of FridgeHorror when you realize that there were seventeen other people on the list that were compatible with Nora's blood type. Seventeen ordinary people who aren't superheroes, who don't spend their time with the world's greatest detective, and wouldn't have the police commissioner sending all available forces to look for them. If Mr. Freeze had chosen anyone else on that list, they would have been brutally killed.
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* NightmareFuel: Mr. Freeze's revenge on the submarine crew. Imagine returning to the cave where your team's sub is parked after a scientific expedition...only to discover the frozen corpses of your comrades.
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* NightmareFuel: Mr. Freeze's revenge on the submarine crew. Imagine returning to the cave where your team's sub is parked after a scientific expedition...only to discover the frozen corpses of your comrades. comrades.
** Being kidnapped for an involuntary organ transplant.
** Being kidnapped for an involuntary organ transplant.
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* JerkassWoobie:
-->'''Barbara:''' How can you treat people this way?\\
'''Freeze:''' It's the way they've always treated me. Nora was the only good thing in my life... and they took her from me. I don't care what I have to do to get her back.
-->'''Barbara:''' How can you treat people this way?\\
'''Freeze:''' It's the way they've always treated me. Nora was the only good thing in my life... and they took her from me. I don't care what I have to do to get her back.
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* JerkassWoobie / WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds:
-->'''Barbara:''' How can you treat people this way?\\
'''Freeze:''' It's the way they've always treated me. Nora was the only good thing in my life... and they took her from me. I don't care what I have to do to get her back.
-->'''Barbara:''' How can you treat people this way?\\
'''Freeze:''' It's the way they've always treated me. Nora was the only good thing in my life... and they took her from me. I don't care what I have to do to get her back.
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* WHAMLine: "If I'm not back in time go without me!"
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'''Freeze:''' It's the way they've always treated me. Nora was the only good thing in my life... and they took her from me. I don't care what I have to do to get her back.
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* WHAMLine: "If I'm not back in time go without me!"
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* CompleteMonster: Dr Gregory Belson. See {{Even Evil Has Standards}} on the main page.
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* HoYay: A huge YMMV regarding this one, but some of Freeze and Dr. Belson's interactions contains hints of this.
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Nora survives thanks to an operation funded by Wayne Industries. Victor himself cries with relief over it.]]
** [[spoiler: It's even more tearjerking when you remember that the accident that changed him also froze him emotionally, that he show any emotion outwardly.]]
*** [[spoiler: It's [[BeyondTheImpossible even more tearjerking]] when we discover in New Batman Adventures that they can never be reunited.]]
** [[spoiler: It's even more tearjerking when you remember that the accident that changed him also froze him emotionally, that he show any emotion outwardly.]]
*** [[spoiler: It's [[BeyondTheImpossible even more tearjerking]] when we discover in New Batman Adventures that they can never be reunited.]]
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* WHAMLine: "If I'm not back in time go without me!"
