History YMMV / Aveyond

* StrangledByTheRedString: The OfficialCouple of the games often regarded as somewhat controversial, if not outright hated, and the lack of chemistry/interactions between the pair is commonly cited as the reason for their unpopularity. Most of the romantic interactions between the LoveInterest are optional, and the characters involved in the pair tend to have a better-defined relationship with someone else (see FanPreferredCouple above).

** The daevas from Aveyond 1. In the game, they barely said anything aside from delivering [[OneLiner threats]] before the battle starts. Only two of them actually said anything substantial: Indra, who [[ScryVSScry made the suggestion to turn Rhen to the dark side]], and Agas, who really dislikes Dameon ([[HeelFaceTurn for a good reason]]). Following the popularity of the fanfiction written by Amaranthia forum user [[BigNameFan Kaz]], ''The Agas Saga'', other forum users were inspired to develop their own versions of [[ItsALongStory the daevas' character and background]].

* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: In ''Ahriman's Prophecy'', the most common party set-up is Talia, Devin, Jack and Frederick. The former two are {{Required Party Member}}s whom [[CantDropTheHero you can't drop no matter what]]. Jack is the only character capable of opening locked chests (which contains some of the best loots in the game), while Frederick's slime form is the best damage dealer (not to mention, his different forms allows him to have more versatile moves). The other two options, Alicia and Haydn, are generic melee fighters who offer little battle bonuses, that many players have no real reason to recruit either characters into the party.

** In ''Aveyond 4'', fans were quite baffled that the Hi'beru and Phye were even included as Ingrid's potential {{Love Interest}}s, because 1) Phye was only introduced in the last portion of the game and barely spoke to Ingrid at all, and 2) Hi'beru had a much more meaningful interaction with Rowen. Not to mention, it's quite an odd choice that ''Ingrid'', who has a SingleTargetSexuality for Boyle, is the one who has the LoveInterest options instead of Boyle himself, who doesn't want to have anything to do with her and needs to find a True Love to be free from Ingrid's curse.

* DemonicSpiders: The Ginger Bears in ''Aveyond 4'' are a nightmare to fight. They attack the whole party at once and deal a lot of damage, sometimes even causing everyone to [[StatusAilment bleed]]. They have a pretty good defense and HP, so they're really hard to kill. Despite being a lot harder to fight than most of the random monster encounters (even the ones from the final map), however, they only give 150XP and have pretty much no loot. Most players would rather evade these creatures, because engaging them in battle would simply be frustrating and pointless.

* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: In ''Ahriman's Prophecy'', the most common party set-up is Talia, Devin, Jack and Frederick. The former two are {{Required Party Member}}s whom [[CantDropTheHero you can't drop no matter what]]. Jack is the only character capable of picklocking chests, while Frederick's slime form is the best damage dealer (not to mention, his different forms allows him to have more versatile moves). The other two options, Alicia and Haydn, are generic melee fighters who offer little battle bonuses, that many players have no real reason to recruit either characters into the party.

* {{Sequelitis}}: Aveyond 2 is probably the least well received title in the Aveyond series, most likely due to the uninteresting protagonist, lazy facesets and a twist that doesn't make much sense. There are definitely far less fanarts and fanfiction for the second game than there are for the first and third.

** In ''Aveyond 4'', fans were quite baffled that the Hi'beru and Phye were even included as Ingrid's potential {{Love Interest}}s, because 1) Phye was only introduced in the last portion of the game and barely spoke to Ingrid at all, and 2) Hi'beru had a much more meaningful interaction with Rowen. Not to mention, it's quite an odd choice that ''Ingrid'', who has a SingleTargetSexuality for Boyle, is the one who has the LoveInterest options instead of Boyle himself, who doesn't want to have anything to do with her and needs an ActOfTrueLove to be free from Ingrid's curse.

* DiscOneNuke: at the beginning of the second dungeon in Aveyond 2 there's a secret cave where you can find he best weapons in the game, with these your party members will be tearing everything apart until close to the end of the game.

* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: In ''Ahriman's Prophecy'', the most common party set-up is Talia, Devin, Jack and Frederick. The former two are RequiredPartyMembers whom [[CantDropTheHero you can't drop no matter what]]. Jack is the only character capable of picklocking chests, while Frederick's slime form is the best damage dealer (not to mention, his different forms allows him to have more versatile moves). The other two options, Alicia and Haydn, are generic melee fighters who offer little battle bonuses, that many players have no real reason to recruit either characters into the party.

* DemonicSpiders: The Ginger Bears in ''Aveyond 4'' are a nightmare to fight. They attack the whole party at once and deal a lot of damage, sometimes even causing everyone to [[StatusAilment bleed]]. They have a pretty good defense and HP, so they're really hard to kill. And despite being a lot harder to fight than most of the random monster encounters (even the ones from the final map), they only give 150XP and have pretty much no loot. Most players would rather evade these creatures, because engaging them in battle would simply be frustrating and pointless.

* GameBreaker: A bug in the initial release of ''Aveyond 3: Orbs of Magic'' allows the player to use the Death Scroll on [[BigBad Gyendal]], instantly killing him. This was quickly rectified by giving Gyendal the standard ContractualBossImmunity to the spell.

* StrangledByTheRedString: The OfficialCouple of the games often regarded as somewhat controversial, if not outright hated, and the lack of chemistry/interactions between the pair is cited as the reason of their unpopularity. Most of the romantic interactions between the LoveInterest are optional, and the characters involved in the pair tend to have a better-defined relationship with someone else (see FanPreferredCouple above).

* FanPreferredCouple: Given that Amanda admits that she likes pairing her characters in a more... [[StrangledByTheRedString unconv* FanPreferredCouple: Given that Amanda admits that she likes pairing her characters in a more... [[StrangledByTheRedString unconventional ways]], this is practically a given.entional ways]], this is practically a given.

** The daevas from Aveyond 1. In the game, they barely said anything aside from delivering [[OneLiner threats]] before the battle starts. Only two of them actually said anything substantial: Indra, who [[ScryVSScry made the suggestion to turn Rhen to the dark side]], and Agas, who really dislikes Dameon ([[HeelFaceTurn for a good reason]]). Following the popularity of the fanfiction written by Amaranthia forum user [[BigNameFan Kaz]], ''The Agas Saga'', other forum users were inspired to develop their own versions of [[ItsALongStory the daevas' character and background]].* FanPreferredCouple: Given that Amanda admits that she likes pairing her characters in a more... [[StrangledByTheRedString unconventional ways]], this is practically a given.

** The daevas in the first Aveyond game were really nothing more than EliteMook bosses, who gets about 1-2 lines before being defeated by the heroes. The Amaranthian website has spawned a lot of fanfics featuring them as central characters, where they are given more depth.
* FanPreferredCouple: Given that Amanda admits that she likes pairing her characters in a more... [[StrangledByTheRedString unconventional ways]], this is practically a given.

* StrangledByTheRedString: The OfficialCouple of the games are rarely, if ever, well-liked, and the lack of chemistry/interactions between the pair is cited as the reason of their unpopularity. Most of the romantic interactions between the LoveInterest are optional, and the characters involved in the pair tend to have a better-defined relationship with someone else (see FanPreferredCouple above).

* ThatOneLevel: The Halaina dungeon from ''Aveyond 4'' is a major cause of frustration for many players. Not only do you have to slog through the confusing layout of the maze (with no speed boost), you must complete numerous riddles and puzzles that requires you to go back and forth to the same room over and over again. Also, if you accidentally walked into a passage at the wrong time, you'd be given a lengthy dialogue event before being sent back to the previous room. It's particularly frustrating since this is a part of the game's main quest. It gets so bad that someone had to make an individual walkthrough for this specific level.
* AscendedExtra: The daevas from Aveyond 1. In the game, they barely said anything aside from delivering [[OneLiner threats]] before the battle starts. Only two of them actually said anything substantial: Indra, who [[ScryVSScry made the suggestion to turn Rhen to the dark side]], and Agas, who really dislikes Dameon ([[HeelFaceTurn for a good reason]]). Following the popularity of the fanfiction written by Amaranthia forum user [[BigNameFan Kaz]], ''The Agas Saga'', other forum users were inspired to develop their own versions of [[ItsALongStory the daevas' character and background]].

* DiscOneNuke: at the beginning of the second dungeon there's a secret cave where you can find he best weapons in the game, with these your party members will be tearing everything apart until close to the end of the game.

* AscendedExtra: The daevas from Aveyond 1. In the game, they barely said anything aside from delivering [[OneLiner threats]] before the battle starts. Only two of them actually said anything substantial: Indra, who [[ScryVSScry made the suggestion to turn Rhen to the dark side]], and Agas, who really dislikes Dameon ([[HeelFaceTurn for a good reason]]). Following the popularity of Amaranthia forum user [[BigNameFan Kaz's]] ''The Agas Saga'', other forum users were inspired to develop their own versions of [[ItsALongStory the daevas' character and background]].

* ThatOneLevel: The Halaina dungeon from ''Aveyond 4'' is a major cause of frustration for many players. Not only do you have to slog through the confusing layout of the maze (with no speed boost), you must complete numerous riddles and puzzles that requires you to go back and forth to the same room over and over again. Also, if you accidentally walked into a passage at the wrong time, you'd be given a lengthy dialogue event before being sent back to the previous room. It's particularly frustrating since this is a part of the game's main quest. It gets so bad that someone had to make an individual walkthrough for this specific level.

* StrangledByTheRedString: The lack of chemistry between the characters is the reason why most of the Canon couples are so unpopular (see FanPreferredCouple above). Most of the "romantic" interactions between the LoveInterest are optional, and the characters involved in the pair tend to have a better-defined relationship with someone else. This trope is deliberately invoked by Amanda, who didn't want to have a cliched pairing match-ups for her main couples.

* FanPreferredCouple: Given that Amanda admits that she likes pairing her characters in a more... [[StrangledByTheRedString unconventional ways]], this is practically a given.
** Most fans prefer Lars/Rhen rather than the canon pairing, Dameon/Rhen.

** Non-canon Talia/Devin is also very popular, even though Devin officially ends up with Alicia, and Talia marries an unnamed Sun Priest. Like the above pairing, it's possible in individual gameplay.

* {{Sequelitis}}: Aveyond 2 is probably the least well received title in the Aveyond series, most likely due to the uninteresting protagonist, lazy facesets and a twist that doesn't make much sense. There are definitely far less fanarts and fanfiction for the second game than there are for the first and third.

** In ''Ahriman's Prophecy'', Devin takes the role of Talia's childhood friend and protector, and the two has the typical role of the male and female RPG protagonists. They are the only two characters who are actually relevant to the conflict, with all the other playable characters being an OptionalPartyMember, including Devin's eventual canon LoveInterest, Alicia. To make things worse, Alicia is a rather difficult character to actually obtain (the player must complete an optional sidequest in Candar, else she would become {{Permanently Missable|Content}}), and her stats are not actually very good (compared to Jack and Fredrick), so players have no real reason to recruit her, and the game can be completed without her involvement ''at all''.
** In ''Aveyond 1'', Rhen's canon love interest is Dameon, but aside from the briefly flirting with her when they first met, he rarely says or does anything important throughout the whole journey. In fact, an earlier build actually allows the party to avoid recruiting him altogether (although he would suddenly show up in the FinalBoss battle anyway), making their status as the designated OfficialCouple even more bizarre. In any case, many players have complained that Rhen falling in love with him [[spoiler:that she would be tempted to join the dark side alongside him]] feel very forced.
** ''Aveyond 3'' follows a similar pattern to [=AP=], where Mel and Edward fill the standard roles of the male and female RPG protagonists, and their dynamics seem to be a perfect setup for a relationship, with Mel's status as a commoner, and Edward's desire to relinquish his royal duties. This is cemented by the fact that, in the third chapter, the "canon" prologue has Edward almost marrying Mel before the wedding was sabotaged by Lydia, impliying that the two ''were'' a couple. But by the end of the saga, Edward would canonically marry Stella, while Mel has an OffscreenRomance with someone who doesn't even appear in the game.

** In ''Aveyond 1'', Rhen's canon love interest is Dameon, but aside from the briefly flirting with her when they first met, he rarely says or does anything important throughout the whole journey. In fact, an earlier build actually allows the party to avoid recruiting him altogether (although he would suddenly show up in the FinalBoss battle anyway), making their status as the designated OfficialCouple even more bizarre. In any case, many players have complained that Rhen falling in love with him [[spoiler:that she would be tempted to join the dark side alongside him]] feel very forced. Lars, despite being introduced as a {{Jerkass}}, frequently gives Rhen useful advice throughout her quest, shows concern when she attempts to do anything dangerous, and was overall given the most CharacterDevelopment ''among the whole cast'' as he becomes a much nicer person and even apologizes to Rhen for his past behaviour.
** ''Aveyond 3'' follows a similar pattern to [=AP=], where Mel and Edward fill the standard roles of the male and female RPG protagonists, and their dynamics seem to be a perfect setup for a relationship, with Mel's status as a commoner, and Edward's desire to relinquish his royal duties. This is cemented by the fact that, in the third chapter, the "canon" prologue has Edward almost marrying Mel before it was sabotaged by Lydia, implicating that the two ''were'' a couple. But instead, Edward would canonically marry Stella, while Mel has an OffscreenRomance with someone who doesn't even appear in the game.

** Some fans like Lars/Rhen, despite (or because of) Lars [[{{Jerkass}} abusing her]] rather than the canon pairing, Dameon/Rhen.

** Some fans like Lars/Rhen, despite (or because of) Lars [[Jerkass abusing her]] rather than the canon pairing, Dameon/Rhen.

* FanPreferredCouple: Given that Amanda admits that she likes pairing her characters in a more... [[StrangledByTheRedString unconventional ways]], this is practically a given.
** Most fans prefer Lars/Rhen rather than the canon pairing, Dameon/Rhen.

** Non-canon Talia/Devin is also very popular, even though Devin officially ends up with Alicia, and Talia marries an unnamed Sun Priest. Like the above pairing, it's possible in individual gameplay.

* StrangledByTheRedString: The lack of chemistry between the characters is the reason why most of the Canon couples are so unpopular (see FanPreferredCouple above). Most of the "romantic" interactions between the LoveInterest are optional, and the characters involved in the pair tend to have a better-defined relationship with someone else. This trope is deliberately invoked by Amanda, who didn't want to have a cliched pairing match-ups for her main couples.
** In ''Ahriman's Prophecy'', Devin takes the role of Talia's childhood friend and protector, and the two has the typical role of the male and female RPG protagonists. They are the only two characters who are actually relevant to the conflict, with all the other playable characters being an OptionalPartyMember, including Devin's eventual canon LoveInterest, Alicia. To make things worse, Alicia is a rather difficult character to actually obtain (the player must complete an optional sidequest in Candar, else she would become {{Permanently Missable|Content}}), and her stats are not actually very good (compared to Jack and Fredrick), so players have no real reason to recruit her, and the game can be completed without her involvement ''at all''.
** In ''Aveyond 1'', Rhen's canon love interest is Dameon, but aside from the briefly flirting with her when they first met, he rarely says or does anything important throughout the whole journey. In fact, an earlier build actually allows the party to avoid recruiting him altogether (although he would suddenly show up in the FinalBoss battle anyway), making their status as the designated OfficialCouple even more bizarre. In any case, many players have complained that Rhen falling in love with him [[spoiler:that she would be tempted to join the dark side alongside him]] feel very forced. Lars, despite being introduced as a {{Jerkass}}, frequently gives Rhen useful advice throughout her quest, shows concern when she attempts to do anything dangerous, and was overall given the most CharacterDevelopment ''among the whole cast'' as he becomes a much nicer person and even apologizes to Rhen for his past behaviour.
** ''Aveyond 3'' follows a similar pattern to [=AP=], where Mel and Edward fill the standard roles of the male and female RPG protagonists, and their dynamics seem to be a perfect setup for a relationship, with Mel's status as a commoner, and Edward's desire to relinquish his royal duties. This is cemented by the fact that, in the third chapter, the "canon" prologue has Edward almost marrying Mel before it was sabotaged by Lydia, implicating that the two ''were'' a couple. But instead, Edward would canonically marry Stella, while Mel has an OffscreenRomance with someone who doesn't even appear in the game.
** In ''Aveyond 4'', fans were quite baffled that the Hi'beru and Phye were even included as Ingrid's potential {{Love Interest}}s, because 1) Phye was only introduced in the last portion of the game and barely spoke to Ingrid at all, and 2) Hi'beru had a much more meaningful interaction with Rowen. Not to mention, it's quite an odd choice that ''Ingrid'', who has a SingleTargetSexuality for Boyle, is the one who has the LoveInterest options instead of Boyle himself, who doesn't want to have anything to do with her and needs an ActOfTrueLove to be free from Ingrid's curse.

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** In ''Ahriman's Prophecy'', Devin takes the role of Talia's childhood friend and protector, and the two has the typical role of the male & female RPG protagonists. They are the only two characters who are actually relevant to the conflict, with all the other playable characters being an OptionalPartyMember, including Devin's eventual canon LoveInterest, Alicia. To make things worse, Alicia is a rather difficult character to actually obtain (the player must complete an optional sidequest in Candar, else she would become {{Permanently Missable|Content}}), and her stats are not actually very good (compared to Jack and Fredrick), so players have no real reason to recruit her, and the game can be completed without her involvement ''at all''.

** ''Aveyond 3'' follows a similar pattern to [=AP=], where Mel and Edward fill the standard roles of the male & female RPG protagonists, and their dynamics seem to be a perfect setup for a relationship, with Mel's status as a commoner, and Edward's desire to relinquish his royal duties. This is cemented by the fact that, in the third chapter, the "canon" prologue has Edward almost marrying Mel before it was sabotaged by Lydia, implicating that the two ''were'' a couple. But instead, Edward would canonically marry Stella, while Mel has an OffscreenRomance with someone who doesn't even appear in the game.