History YMMV / Aveyond

* ClicheStorm: The plot of the ''Aveyond'' series tend to be rather generic, and most of their storylines can be surmised as follows: A young hero is [[TheChosenOne chosen]] by [[BigGood the Oracle]] to stop a villain who, for unexplained reasons, wants to TakeOverTheWorld. They meet some useful allies here and there, and fights the BigBad's minions to collect some {{Plot Coupon}}s. And that's about it, really. Eventually subverted in the fourth installment, which seeks to break the formula by having a retired villain in his very late 20s ([[YoungerThanTheyLook despite his looks]], that's what his profile says) as the protagonist who is forced to become an unlikely hero after losing his dog to the mist queen (hence the subtitle ''Shadow of the Mist'').

** In ''Aveyond 4'', fans were quite baffled that the Hi'beru and Phye were even included as Ingrid's potential {{Love Interest}}s, because 1) Phye was only introduced in the last portion of the game and barely spoke to Ingrid at all, and 2) Hi'beru had a much more meaningful interaction with Rowen. Not to mention, it seems odd that ''Ingrid'', who seem to have a SingleTargetSexuality for Boyle, is the one who has the LoveInterest options instead of Boyle himself, who doesn't want to have anything to do with her and needs an ActOfTrueLove to be free from Ingrid's curse.

* StrangledByTheRedString: The lack of chemistry between the characters is the reason why most of the Canon couples are so unpopular (see FanPreferredCouple above). Most of the "romantic" interactions between the LoveInterest are optional, and the characters involved in the pair tend to have a better-defined relationship with someone else.

* ClicheStorm: One of the reasons why ''Aveyond'' is a rather obscure series is that their plotlines tend to be rather generic. A young hero is [[TheChosenOne chosen]] by [[BigGood the Oracle]] to stop a villain who, for unexplained reasons, wants to TakeOverTheWorld. They meet some useful allies here and there, and fights the BigBad's minions to collect some {{Plot Coupon}}s. And that's about it, really.
** The fourth installment, of course, seeks to break the formula by having a retired villain in his very late 20s ([[YoungerThanTheyLook despite his looks]], that's what his profile says) as the protagonist who is forced to become an unlikely hero after losing his dog to the mist queen (hence the subtitle ''Shadow of the Mist'').

** In ''Aveyond 1'', Rhen's canon love interest is Dameon, but aside from the briefly flirting with her when they first met, he rarely says or does anything important throughout the whole journey. In fact, an earlier build actually allows the party to avoid recruiting him altogether (although he would suddenly show up in the FinalBoss battle anyway). In any case, many players complain that Rhen falling in love with him [[spoiler:that she would be tempted to join the dark side alongside him]] feel very forced. Lars, despite being introduced as a {{Jerkass}}, frequently gives Rhen useful advice throughout her quest, shows concern when she attempts to do anything dangerous, and was overall given the most CharacterDevelopment ''among the whole cast'' as he becomes a much nicer person and even apologizes to Rhen for his past behaviour.

** In ''Aveyond 4'', fans were quite baffled that the Hi'beru and Phye were even included as Ingrid's potential {{Love Interest}}s, because 1) Phye was only introduced in the last portion of the game and barely spoke to Ingrid at all, and 2) Hi'beru had a much more meaningful interaction with Rowen. Not to mention, it seems odd that ''Ingrid'', who is shown to be hell-bent after Boyle, is the one who has the LoveInterest options instead of Boyle, who doesn't want to have anything to do with her and needs an ActOfTrueLove to be free from Ingrid's curse.

** Te'ijal, an OptionalPartyMember from ''Aveyond 1''. She's so popular that got a cameo in ''Aveyond 2'', and was [[AscendedExtra promoted]] to a central character in ''Aveyond 3''.
** The daevas in the first Aveyond game were really nothing more than EliteMook bosses, who gets about 1-2 lines before being defeated by the heroes. The Amaranthian website has spawned a lot of fanfics where they are given more depth.

** In ''Aveyond 4'', fans were quite baffled that the Hi'beru and Phye were even included as Ingrid's potential {{Love Interest}}s, because 1) Phye was only introduced in the last portion of the game and barely spoke to Ingrid at all, and 2) Hi'beru had a much more meaningful interaction with Rowen. Not to mention, it seems odd that ''Ingrid'', who is shown to be hell-bent after Boyle, is the one who has the LoveInterest options instead of Boyle, who doesn't want to have anything to do with her and needs AnActOfTrueLove to be free from Ingrid's curse.

** In ''Aveyond 4'', fans were quite baffled that the Hi'beru and Phye were even included as Ingrid's potential {{Love Interest}}s, because 1) Phye was only introduced in the last portion of the game and barely spoke to Ingrid at all, and 2) Hi'beru had a much more meaningful interaction with Rowen. Basically, the whole thing felt like a shoehorned attempt to reuse the Attraction Point system, even though it doesn't make much sense.

* StrangledByTheRedString: The lack of chemistry between the characters is the reason why most of the Canon couples are so unpopular (see FanPreferredCouple above). Most of the "romantic" interactions between the LoveInterest is optional, and the characters involved in the pair tend to have a better-defined relationship with someone else.

** In ''Aveyond 1'', Rhen's canon love interest is Dameon, but aside from the briefly flirting with her when they first met, he rarely says or does anything important throughout the whole journey. In fact, an earlier build actually allows the party to avoid recruiting him altogether (although he would randomly pop up in the FinalBoss battle anyway). In any case, many players complain that Rhen falling in love with him [[spoiler:that she would be tempted to join the dark side alongside him]] feel very forced. Lars, despite being introduced as a {{Jerkass}}, frequently gives Rhen useful advice throughout her quest, shows concern when she attempts to do anything dangerous, and was overall given the most CharacterDevelopment ''among the whole cast'' as he becomes a much nicer person and even apologizes to Rhen for his past behaviour.

* ClicheStorm: One of the reasons why ''Aveyond'' is a rather obscure series is that their plotlines tend to be rather generic. A young hero is chosen by [[BigGood the Oracle]] to stop a villain who, for unexplained reasons, wants to TakeOverTheWorld. They meet some useful allies here and there, and fights the BigBad's minions to collect some {{Plot Coupon}}s. And that's about it, really.

** In ''Ahriman's Prophecy'', Devin takes the role of Talia's childhood friend and protector, and the two has the typical role of the male & female RPG protagonists. They are the only two characters who are actually relevant to the conflict, with all the other playable characters being an OptionalPartyMember, including Devin's eventual canon LoveInterest, Alicia. To make things worse, Alicia is a rather difficult character to actually obtain (the player must complete an optional sidequest in Candar, else she would become LostForever), and her stats are not actually very good (compared to Jack and Fredrick), so players have no real reason to recruit her, and the game can be completed without her involvement ''at all''.

** ''Aveyond 3'' follows a similar pattern to [=AP=], where Mel and Edward fill the standard roles of the male & female RPG protagonists, and their dynamics seem to be a perfect setup for a relationship, with Mel's status as a commoner, and Edward's desire to relinquish his royal duties. This is cemented by the fact that, in the third chapter, the "canon" prologue has Edward almost marrying Mel before it was sabotaged by Lydia, implicating that the two ''were'' a couple. But instead, Edward would canonically marry Stella, while Mel has an offscreen romance with someone who doesn't even appear in the game.

** In ''Aveyond 4'', fans were quite baffled that the Hi'beru and Phye were even included as Ingrid's potential {{Love Interest}}s, because 1) Phye was only introduced in the last portion of the game and barely spoke to Ingrid at all, and 2) Hi'beru had a much more meaningful interaction with Rowen. Basically, the whole thing felt like a shoehorned attempt to reuse the Attraction Point system, even though it doesn't make much sense.

** In ''Aveyond 4'', Ingrid can marry either Boyle, Hi'beru or Phye. Fans are quite baffled that the latter 2 were even an option, because 1) Phye was only introduced in the last portion of the game and barely spoke to Ingrid at all, and 2) Hi'beru had a much more meaningful interaction with Rowen. Basically, the whole thing felt like a shoehorned attempt to reuse the Attraction Point system, even though it doesn't make much sense.

** In ''Aveyond 4'', Ingrid can marry either Boyle, Hi'beru or Phye. Fans are quite baffled at this, because Phye was only introduced in the last portion of the game, and barely spoke to Ingrid at all, while Hi'beru had a much more meaningful interaction with Rowen.

** ''Aveyond 3'' follows a similar pattern to [=AP=], where Mel and Edward fill the standard roles of the male & female RPG protagonists, and their dynamics seem to be a perfect setup for a relationship, with Mel's status as a commoner, and Edward's desire to relinquish his royal duties. This is cemented by the fact that, in the third chapter, the "canon" prologue has Edward almost marrying Mel before it was sabotaged by Lydia, implicating that the two ''were'' a couple. But instead, Edward would canonically marry Stella, while Mel has an offscreen romance with someone who doesn't even appear in the game.

* DemonicSpiders: The Ginger Bears in ''Aveyond 4'' is a nightmare to fight. They attack the whole party at once and deal a lot of damage, sometimes even causing everyone to [[StatusAilment bleed]]. They have a pretty good defense and HP, so they're really hard to kill. And despite being a lot harder to fight than most of the random monster encounters (even the ones from the final map), they only give 150XP and have pretty much no loot. Most players would rather evade these creatures, because engaging them in battle would simply be frustrating and pointless.

** ''Aveyond 3'' follows a similar pattern to [=AP=], where Mel and Edward fill the standard roles of the male & female RPG protagonists, and their dynamics seem to be a perfect setup for a relationship, with Mel's status as a commoner, and Edward's desire to relinquish his royal duties. This is cemented by the fact that, in the third chapter, the "canon" prologue has Edward almost marrying Mel before it was sabotaged by Lydia, implicating that the two ''were'' a couple. But instead, Edward would canonically marry Stella, while Mel has an offscreen romance with someone who doesn't even appear in the game.

* DemonicSpiders: The Ginger Bears in ''Aveyond 4'' is a nightmare to fight. They attack the whole party at once and could cause them to [[StatusAilment bleed]], they have a pretty good HP, and only gives 150XP and pretty much no loot, despite being a lot harder to fight than most of the random monster encounters (even the ones from the final map). Most players would rather evade these creatures, because engaging them in battle would simply be frustrating and pointless.

* GrowingTheBeard: ''Aveyond 4'' is considered by fans as a huge step-up from its prequels for breaking the ClicheStorm storyline the had been plaguing the game series, with better character developments and interactions.

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Galahad wasn't too popular in ''Aveyond 1'', thanks to his KnightTemplar and HolierThanThou tendencies. He gained a lot of fans in ''Aveyond 3'', where he was a KnightInSourArmor vampire DeathSeeker.

* SoOkayItsAverage: Seems to be the opinion most people and critics have of the franchise

* DemonicSpiders: The Ginger Bears in ''Aveyond 4'' is a nightmare to fight. They attack the whole party at once and could cause them to [[StatusAilment bleed]], they have a pretty good HP, and only gives 150XP and pretty much no loot, despite being a lot harder to fight than many other monster encounters.

** The fourth installment, of course, seeks to break the formula by having a retired villain in his very late 20s ([[YoungerThanTheyLook despite his looks]], that's what his profile says) as the protagonist--which invokes {{villain protagonist}}--who is forced to become an unlikely hero after losing his dog to the mist queen (hence the subtitle ''Shadow of the Mist'').

* AndTheFandomRejoiced: After a long wait of about four years, Aveyond 4 was finally released in December 10, 2015.

* AndTheFandomRejoiced: After a long wait of about four years, Aveyond 4 was finally released at December 10, 2015.

** The fourth installment, of course, seeks to breaks the formula and stars a retired villain in his very late 20s ([[YoungerThanTheyLook despite his looks]], that's what his profile says) who is forced to become an unlikely hero after losing his dog to the mist queen (hence the subtitle ''Shadow of the Mist'').

** Te'ijal, an OptionalPartyMember from ''Aveyond 1''. She got a cameo in ''Aveyond 2'', and was a central character in ''Aveyond 3''.

* GeniusBonus: Ahriman is the name of a Persian god of evil. Ishtar is the name of a Sumerian goddess of love and war.
** Nox is a Roman goddess of night.

*** [[http://www.amaranthia.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=293821#forumpost293821 A lot of the names in Aveyond 1 came from Persian myth.]]

** ''Aveyond 3'' follows a similar pattern ''Ahriman's'', where Mel and Edward fill the standard roles of the male & female RPG protagonists, and their dynamics seem to be a perfect setup for a relationship, with Mel's status as a commoner, and Edward's desire to relinquish his royal duties. This is cemented by the fact that, in the third chapter, the "canon" prologue has Edward almost marrying Mel before it was sabotaged by Lydia, implicating that the two ''were'' a couple. But instead, Edward would canonically marry Stella, while Mel has an offscreen romance with someone who doesn't even appear in the game.