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* AcceptableTargets: Not the worst example, but they are often bashed for being too mainstream, too emo, too cheesy and/or not being "true" metal.
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* AcceptableTargets: Not the worst example, but they are often bashed for being too mainstream, too emo, too cheesy and/or not being "true" metal. Fans of the band are often written off as "newbies" who just don't know anything better.
* SacredCow: Pretty much every album has its lovers and detractors, but you'll hardly find any fan who doesn't like ''City of Evil''. Or doesn't like The Rev's drumlines.
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* SignatureSong: "Bat Country," "The Beast And The Harlot," "Unholy Confessions," "Nightmare", and arguably "The Stage".
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* SignatureSong: "Bat Country," "The Beast And The Harlot," "Unholy Confessions," "Nightmare", and arguably "The Stage"."God Damn".
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** ''Sounding the Seventh Trumpet'' does have quite a few fans nowadays, and the band have started playing "To End the Rapture" and an instrumental arrangement of "Warmness on the Soul" in 2017, the first time in years that they played anything from that album.
** ''Hail to the King'' is somewhat less disliked now than when it came out, if only because ''The Stage'' eased some fans' fears that HTTK's simplified style would be a permanent change. Similarly, Arin Ilejay has its fair share of fans now that he's no longer in the band, some sympathizing with him for being unceremoniously "kicked out".
** ''Sounding the Seventh Trumpet'' does have quite a few fans nowadays, and the band have started playing "To End the Rapture" and an instrumental arrangement of "Warmness on the Soul" in 2017, the first time in years that they played anything from that album.
** ''Hail to the King'' is somewhat less disliked now than when it came out, if only because ''The Stage'' eased some fans' fears that HTTK's simplified style would be a permanent change. Similarly, Arin Ilejay has its fair share of fans now that he's no longer in the band, some sympathizing with him for being unceremoniously "kicked out".
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** "Streets", a straight-up punk song picked up from M. Shadows' first band Successful Failure, in the middle of a metalcore album.
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** "Streets", a straight-up punk song picked up from M. Shadows' first band band, Successful Failure, in the middle of a metalcore album.Failure.
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* BizarroEpisode: "A Little Piece of Heaven" and "Streets".
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* BizarroEpisode: BizarroEpisode:
** "Streets", a straight-up punk song picked up from M. Shadows' first band Successful Failure, in the middle of a metalcore album.
** "A Little Piece ofHeaven" Heaven", an 8-minute story about a guy and "Streets".his girlfriend murdering each other and coming back as zombies, in an otherwise pretty radio-friendly album.
** "Runaway", a rock n' roll cover of a largely forgotten 1961 hit from Del Shannon, featuring Warren Fitzgerald from The Vandals on guitar, and Zacky Vengeance on vocals. ''Zacky Vengeance on vocals''.
** "Streets", a straight-up punk song picked up from M. Shadows' first band Successful Failure, in the middle of a metalcore album.
** "A Little Piece of
** "Runaway", a rock n' roll cover of a largely forgotten 1961 hit from Del Shannon, featuring Warren Fitzgerald from The Vandals on guitar, and Zacky Vengeance on vocals. ''Zacky Vengeance on vocals''.
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** "This Means War" has been called suspiciously similar to "Sad But True," especially in the intro and the verses.
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** "This Means War" has been called suspiciously similar to "Sad But True," especially in the intro and the verses. The band members themselves acknowledge the inpspiration.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Fans are often stumped whether the chorus to "Almost Easy" has the lyrics "(Mother) Come back to me/It's almost easy" or "(I'm not) Come back to me/It's almost easy". Either interpretation vastly changes the meaning of the song.
* {{Anvilicious}}: "Critical Acclaim" from the Self Titled album.
* {{Anvilicious}}: "Critical Acclaim" from the Self Titled album.
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** Also, arguments abound over who is the better drummer: Arin or Jimmy.
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** Also, arguments abound over who is the better best drummer: Arin Arin, Jimmy or Jimmy.Brooks.
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* SignatureStyle: Expect poppy chord progressions and catchy EarWorm hooks and Choruses, against metal backgrounds, references to Literature/TheBible, melodramatic and theatrical LargeHam lyrics, and a lot of harmonic minor keys. As well as healthy doses of sweeping in Synister Gate's solos.
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* SignatureStyle: Expect poppy chord progressions and catchy EarWorm hooks and Choruses, against metal backgrounds, references to Literature/TheBible, melodramatic and theatrical LargeHam lyrics, and a lot of harmonic minor keys. As well as healthy doses of sweeping in Synister Gate's Synyster Gates's solos.
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** The music video even provides a handy image of said heater - "Super Thigh Heater 3000GSS".
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** The music video even provides a handy image of said heater - the "Super Thigh Heater 3000GSS".3000GSS" - every time this part of the chorus is sung.
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** The music video even provides a handy image of said heater - "Super Thigh Heater 3000GSS".
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: ''A Little Piece of Heaven''
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: ''A Little Piece of Heaven''Heaven'', as described on the main page. But in particular this line.
-->'''Cause I really always knew that [[{{Yandere}} my little crime]] / [[LiteralMetaphor Would be cold]] that's [[ILoveTheDead why I got a heater for your thighs]]''
-->'''Cause I really always knew that [[{{Yandere}} my little crime]] / [[LiteralMetaphor Would be cold]] that's [[ILoveTheDead why I got a heater for your thighs]]''
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The band seems to have a huge South-American fanbase, for some reason. Some of their most massive concerts were in Brazil.
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* EpicRiff: Many.
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* EpicRiff: Many. Particular mention to "Afterlife", where Syn just kills the guitar riffs so much that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOwn23_L1ZA even the backup string players during the recording thought it's awesome.]]
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** During the writing of ''Nightmare'' Zacky vengeance said in an interview that their next record "[would] take you on a very dark journey" and that "only a world spinning out of control could inspire the music and vision [we] have now. Once again, it is f—ing exciting.” The Rev died a month after the interview.
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** During the writing of ''Nightmare'' Zacky vengeance said [[http://noisecreep.com/avenged-sevenfold-epic-record/ in an interview interview]] that their next record "[would] take you on a very dark journey" and that "only a world spinning out of control could inspire the music and vision [we] have now. Once again, it is f—ing exciting.” The Rev died a month after the interview.
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** During the writing of ''Nightmare'' Zacky vengeance said in an interview that their next record "[would] take you on a very dark journey" and that "only a world spinning out of control could inspire the music and vision [we] have now. Once again, it is f—ing exciting.” The Rev died a month after the interview.
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Pretty much way too much "pretty much" in this sentence.
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** The Rev had pretty much said that the whole first album is [[OldShame pretty much entirely this for the band,]] but that [[NarmCharm it's still actually quite fun for them to listen to]] [[SoBadItsGood for exactly that reason.]]
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** The Rev had pretty much said that the whole first album is [[OldShame pretty much entirely this for the band,]] but that [[NarmCharm it's still actually quite fun for them to listen to]] [[SoBadItsGood for exactly that reason.]]
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* AcceptableTargets: Not the worst example, but they are often bashed for being too mainstream, too emo, and/or not being "true" metal.
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* AcceptableTargets: Not the worst example, but they are often bashed for being too mainstream, too emo, too cheesy and/or not being "true" metal.
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* SignatureSong: "Bat Country," "The Beast And The Harlot," "Unholy Confessions," "Nightmare"
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* SignatureSong: "Bat Country," "The Beast And The Harlot," "Unholy Confessions," "Nightmare""Nightmare", and arguably "The Stage".
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** "Hail to the King" seems to be the answer to Metallica's "King Nothing". The two songs don't ressemble each other that much musically, but the similar titles and lyrical contents [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EliSkMRvyEE gave some ideas to the fans.]]
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** "Hail to the King" seems to be the answer to Metallica's "King Nothing". The two songs don't ressemble each other sound that much alike musically, but the similar titles and lyrical contents [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EliSkMRvyEE gave some ideas to the fans.]]
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** "Hail to the King" seems to be the answer to Metallica's "King Nothing". The two songs don't ressemble each other that much musically, but the similar titles and lyrical contents [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EliSkMRvyEE gave some ideas to the fans.]]
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: "Hail To The King" is the [=A7X=] answer to {{Music/Metallica}}'s "King Nothing".
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: "Hail To The King" is the [=A7X=] answer to {{Music/Metallica}}'s "King Nothing".A couple of examples.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: While ''Hail to the King'' was received with a big, resounding [[SoOkayItsAverage "meh"]], ''The Stage'' is mostly seen ([[BrokenBase mostly]]) as a return to form, and considered by some to be their best effort since ''City of Evil''. Fans and critics who liked it notably praise the general concept, musical diversity and bigger risk-taking. Brooks Wackerman taking over the drums certainly helped more than a little too, as his drumming style is considered a much better fit for the band than Arin Ilejay's.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: While ''Hail to the King'' was received with a big, resounding [[SoOkayItsAverage "meh"]], ''The Stage'' is mostly seen ([[BrokenBase mostly]]) as a return to form, and considered by some to be a few fans considering it their best effort since ''City of Evil''.album, period. Fans and critics who liked it notably praise the general concept, musical diversity and bigger risk-taking. Brooks Wackerman taking over the drums certainly helped more than a little too, as his drumming style is considered a much better fit for the band than Arin Ilejay's.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: While ''Hail to the King'' was received with a big, resounding [[SoOkayItsAverage "meh"]], ''The Stage'' is mostly seen ([[BrokenBase mostly]]) as a return to form, and considered by some to be their best effort since ''City of Evil''. Fans and critics who liked it notably praise the general concept, musical diversity and bigger risk-taking. Brooks Wackerman taking over the drums certainly helped more than a little too.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: While ''Hail to the King'' was received with a big, resounding [[SoOkayItsAverage "meh"]], ''The Stage'' is mostly seen ([[BrokenBase mostly]]) as a return to form, and considered by some to be their best effort since ''City of Evil''. Fans and critics who liked it notably praise the general concept, musical diversity and bigger risk-taking. Brooks Wackerman taking over the drums certainly helped more than a little too.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Arin was this for some fans, who found him less skilled than The Rev. Sometimes ignoring that the simpler drums on ''Hail to the King'' [[MisBlamedwere a deliberate choice by the band.]]
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* ReplacementScrappy: Arin was this for some fans, who found him less skilled than The Rev. Sometimes Often ignoring that the simpler drums on ''Hail to the King'' [[MisBlamedwere [[MisBlamed were a deliberate choice by the band.]]
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* ReplacementScrappy: Arin was this for some fans, who found him less skilled than The Rev.
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* ReplacementScrappy: Arin was this for some fans, who found him less skilled than The Rev. Sometimes ignoring that the simpler drums on ''Hail to the King'' [[MisBlamedwere a deliberate choice by the band.]]
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* WinBackTheCrowd: While ''Hail to the King'' was received with a big, resounding [[SoOkayItsAverage "meh"]], ''The Stage'' is mostly seen ([[BrokenBase mostly]]) as a return to form, and considered by some to be their best effort since ''City of Evil''. Fans and critics who liked it notably praise the general concept, musical diversity and bigger risk-taking. Brooks Wackerman replacing [[ReplacementScrappy Arin Ilejay]] at taking over the drums certainly helped more than a little too.
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* CompleteMonster: [[VillainProtagonist The main character]] from "A Little Piece of Heaven" murders his girlfriend out of fear that something in their as-of-that moment perfect relationship would go wrong. He stabs her, [[BeatStillMyHeart rips her heart out]], and [[IAmAHumanitarian eats it]], [[LaughingMad laughing all the while]]. He keeps her corpse and [[ILoveTheDead uses it for sex]], remarking that it is more pleasurable than when she was alive, and also implying that he'd raped her in her sleep before. Eventually, his girlfriend's spirit repossesses her body and kills him out of vengeance. He ''does'' show remorse for his actions in Hell, but only because he got punished for them. Now a zombie himself, he is [[EasilyForgiven forgiven]] by his girlfriend, and they decide to get married. The two of them proceed to go to the wedding of another couple to have theirs there, and murder everybody in attendance. The guests are all turned into zombies as well, and it's implied to start a ZombieApocalypse.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: See BrokenBase.
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* TooCoolToLive: Just take a guess.
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* SignatureStyle: Expect poppy chord progressions and catchy EarWorm hooks and Choruses, against metal backgrounds, references to Literature/TheBible, melodramatic and theatrical LargeHam lyrics, and a lot of harmonic minor keys.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: While ''Hail to the King'' was received with a big, resounding [[SoOkayItsAverage "meh"]], ''The Stage'' is mostly seen ([[BrokenBase mostly]]) as a return to form, and considered by some to be their best effort since ''City of Evil''. Fans and critics who liked it notably praise the general concept, musical diversity and bigger risk-taking. Brooks Wackerman replacing [[ReplacementScrappy Arin Ilejay]] at the drums certainly helped more than a little too.
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** "Exist", the closing track from ''The Stage'', was enjoyed even by people who didn't like the album, if only for Neil [=deGrasse=] Tyson's speech in the last part.
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* BizarroEpisode: "A Little Piece of Heaven" and "Streets"
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** The band's latest album, Hail to the King, is not only the first album to be recorded without any input whatsoever from the late Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan - but also takes on a significantly different direction from the previous three albums (although probably not quite as drastically as City of Evil was from Waking the Fallen). According to lead singer M Shadows, the album can be described as "more blues rock-influenced and more like classic rock and classic metal in the vein of Music/BlackSabbath and Music/LedZeppelin". Quite naturally, this album would be even more disdained by those who prefer the band's STST/WTF-era style. But even a significant portion of those who have enjoyed the past three albums find the style to be too much of a departure for them.
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** The band's latest previous album, Hail to the King, is not only the first album to be recorded without any input whatsoever from the late Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan - but also takes on a significantly different direction from the previous three albums (although probably not quite as drastically as City of Evil was from Waking the Fallen). According to lead singer M Shadows, the album can be described as "more blues rock-influenced and more like classic rock and classic metal in the vein of Music/BlackSabbath and Music/LedZeppelin". Quite naturally, this album would be even more disdained by those who prefer the band's STST/WTF-era style. But even a significant portion of those who have enjoyed the past three albums find the style to be too much of a departure for them.
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* AlasPoorScrappy: ''Somewhat''. While Arin was by far ''not'' a Scrappy, some fans were very upset to hear he parted ways with the band.