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* WinBackTheCrowd: With base breaking going on for most of the 2014 summer over lack of LGBT representation, the reveal that Crow had a girlfriend was met quite well.

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With base breaking going on for most of the 2014 summer over lack of LGBT representation, the reveal that Crow had a girlfriend was met quite well.

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** Wrathia can get pretty close physically to Ava, sometimes while both are in their naked spirit forms.

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** Wrathia can get pretty close physically to Ava, sometimes while both are in their naked spirit forms. Their pact starts with Wrathia hugging her tightly until their bodies merge. [[http://www.avasdemon.com/pages.php#1862 This]] sequence has Wrathia positioned over her suggestively.
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** Wrathia can get pretty close physically to Ava, sometimes while both are in their naked spirit forms.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite the supposed point of the story being Ava helping Wraitha reunite the demons together to take on TITAN, readers have pointed out that despite everything ''nobody'' likes Ava at all (some fans even consider it to be increasingly contrived) and she is no closer to even getting one person on her side after several years worth of pages making her quest seem pointless. Her recent moral event horizon moment has done little to help the fandom's apathy.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite the supposed point of the story being Ava helping Wraitha Wrathia reunite the demons together to take on TITAN, readers have pointed out that despite everything ''nobody'' likes Ava at all (some fans even consider it to be increasingly contrived) and she is no closer to even getting one person on her side after several years worth of pages making her quest seem pointless. Her recent moral event horizon moment has done little to help the fandom's apathy.

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** Crow excited to go on a date with her Girlfriend in her new attire.
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* EsembleDarkhorse: Merita, Crow's girlfriend. She is not noly an amazingly sweet cute girl who is responsible for being Crow's CutenessProximity, she also composes one of the few characters of the entire comic to not have tried murdering, torturing or attacking anyone.

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* EsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse: Merita, Crow's girlfriend. She is not noly an amazingly sweet cute girl who is responsible for being Crow's CutenessProximity, she also composes one of the few characters of the entire comic to not have tried murdering, torturing or attacking anyone.
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* EsembleDarkhorse: Merita, Crow's girlfriend. She is not noly an amazingly sweet cute girl who is responsible for being Crow's CutenessProximity, she also composes one of the few characters of the entire comic to not have tried murdering, torturing or attacking anyone.
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The Woobie should not apply to the creator, only the works.


** Before he became a demon, Tuls [[spoiler:was a guard serving a Princess that [[BodyguardCrush he fell in love with.]] His side of the pact involves seeing her one final time and finally confessing his feelings. Even if that means he will be rejected. Being the demon of Maggie certainly adds to the woobie factor as well.]]
** From a meta sense, the author herself. She's spent years trying to make her webcomic, and while popular, it has made her open to harassment, DDOS attacks, and vicious messages from the more Tumblr-minded (unstable) members of her fanbase who lunge at her for almost any little slight (such as being accused of acephobia due to ONE scene of an obviously villainous (or at least jerkish character) virgin shaming another), having to delete her Tumblr account and losing her deviantart account due to another controversy. It's a wonder she continues the comic at all, given how ungrateful and outright abusive some members of her readership are.

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** Before he became a demon, Tuls [[spoiler:was a guard serving a Princess that [[BodyguardCrush he fell in love with.]] His side of the pact involves seeing her one final time and finally confessing his feelings. Even if that means he will be rejected. Being the demon of Maggie certainly adds to the woobie factor as well.]]
** From a meta sense, the author herself. She's spent years trying to make her webcomic, and while popular, it has made her open to harassment, DDOS attacks, and vicious messages from the more Tumblr-minded (unstable) members of her fanbase who lunge at her for almost any little slight (such as being accused of acephobia due to ONE scene of an obviously villainous (or at least jerkish character) virgin shaming another), having to delete her Tumblr account and losing her deviantart account due to another controversy. It's a wonder she continues the comic at all, given how ungrateful and outright abusive some members of her readership are.
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** From a meta sense, the author herself. She's spent years trying to make her webcomic, and while popular, it has open her to harassment, DDOS attacks, and vicious messages from the more Tumblr-minded (unstable) members of her fanbase who lunge at her for almost any little slight (such as being accused of acephobia due to ONE scene of an obviously villainous (or at least jerkish character) virgin shaming another), having to delete her Tumblr account and losing her deviantart account due to another controversy. It's a wonder she continues the comic at all given how ungrateful and outright abusive some members of her readership are.

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** From a meta sense, the author herself. She's spent years trying to make her webcomic, and while popular, it has made her open her to harassment, DDOS attacks, and vicious messages from the more Tumblr-minded (unstable) members of her fanbase who lunge at her for almost any little slight (such as being accused of acephobia due to ONE scene of an obviously villainous (or at least jerkish character) virgin shaming another), having to delete her Tumblr account and losing her deviantart account due to another controversy. It's a wonder she continues the comic at all all, given how ungrateful and outright abusive some members of her readership are.
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** From a meta sense, the author herself. She's spent years trying to make her webcomic, and while popular, it has open to her harassment, DDOS attacks, and vicious messages from the more Tumblr-minded (unstable) members of her fanbase who lung at her for almost any little slight (such as being accused of acephobia due to ONE scene of an obviously villainous (or at least jerkish character) virgin shaming another), having to delete her Tumblr account and losing her deviantart account due to another controversy. It's a wonder she continues the comic at all given how ungrateful and outright abusive some members of her readership are.

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** From a meta sense, the author herself. She's spent years trying to make her webcomic, and while popular, it has open to her to harassment, DDOS attacks, and vicious messages from the more Tumblr-minded (unstable) members of her fanbase who lung lunge at her for almost any little slight (such as being accused of acephobia due to ONE scene of an obviously villainous (or at least jerkish character) virgin shaming another), having to delete her Tumblr account and losing her deviantart account due to another controversy. It's a wonder she continues the comic at all given how ungrateful and outright abusive some members of her readership are.
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** From a meta sense, the author herself. She's spent years trying to make her webcomic, and while popular, it has open to her harassment, DDOS attacks, and vicious messages from the more Tumblr-minded (unstable) members of her fanbase who lung at her for almost any little slight (such as being accused of acephobia due to ONE scene of an obviously villainous (or at least jerkish character) virgin shaming another), having to delete her deviantart account due to it. It's a wonder she continues to comic at all given how ungrateful and outright abusive some members of her readership are.

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** From a meta sense, the author herself. She's spent years trying to make her webcomic, and while popular, it has open to her harassment, DDOS attacks, and vicious messages from the more Tumblr-minded (unstable) members of her fanbase who lung at her for almost any little slight (such as being accused of acephobia due to ONE scene of an obviously villainous (or at least jerkish character) virgin shaming another), having to delete her Tumblr account and losing her deviantart account due to it. another controversy. It's a wonder she continues to the comic at all given how ungrateful and outright abusive some members of her readership are.
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** Before he became a demon, Tuls [[spoiler:was a guard serving a Princess that [[BodyguardCrush he fell in love with.]] His side of the pact involves seeing her one final time and finally confessing his feelings. Even if that means he will be rejected. Being the demon of Maggie certainly adds to the woobie factor as well.]]

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** Before he became a demon, Tuls [[spoiler:was a guard serving a Princess that [[BodyguardCrush he fell in love with.]] His side of the pact involves seeing her one final time and finally confessing his feelings. Even if that means he will be rejected. Being the demon of Maggie certainly adds to the woobie factor as well.]]]]
** From a meta sense, the author herself. She's spent years trying to make her webcomic, and while popular, it has open to her harassment, DDOS attacks, and vicious messages from the more Tumblr-minded (unstable) members of her fanbase who lung at her for almost any little slight (such as being accused of acephobia due to ONE scene of an obviously villainous (or at least jerkish character) virgin shaming another), having to delete her deviantart account due to it. It's a wonder she continues to comic at all given how ungrateful and outright abusive some members of her readership are.
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* UncannyValley: Ava's right, all the people staring at on her in [[http://www.avasdemon.com/pages/1123.png this image]] are rather unnerving.

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* UncannyValley: Ava's right, all the people staring at on her in [[http://www.avasdemon.com/pages/1123.png com/pages.php#1123 this image]] are rather unnerving.
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*** The fanbase is again upset, largely because of Maggie's treatment of Ava post-pact potion, with some even pointing out that Maggie, more than anyone, should have understood what happened to Ava. Others suggest it falls into WhatAnIdiot territory.


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** Maggie's characterization has been accused of this, with many pointing out she should have been able to recognize that Ava took a pact-potion, or at the very least that Ava has been harassed by a demon much like she has. Others suggest that Tuls submissive nature made pact making an easier process for Maggie, and therefore she wouldn't have been able to recognize it in Ava.
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*** Though the latter is [[spoiler: kinda moot, only because Ava destroyed the building before Gil could learn his placement. Now he's just standing in the ruins of a building belonging to the organization he put complete trust and faith into, watching innocent people die, and in then learns that the person responsible is someone '''he personally brought there.''']]

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*** Though the latter is [[spoiler: kinda moot, only because Ava destroyed the building before Gil could learn his placement. Now he's just standing in the ruins of a building belonging to the organization he put complete trust and faith into, watching innocent people die, and in then learns that the person responsible is someone '''he personally brought there.''']]
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*** Though the latter is [[spoiler: kinda moot, only because Ava destroyed the building before Gil could learn his placement. Now he's just standing in the ruins of a building belonging to the organization he put complete trust and faith into, watching innocent people die, and in then learns that the person responsible is someone '''he personally brought there.''']]
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* FanficFuel: WhatIf scenarios of each one of the characters with swapped demons, particularly, Pride!Ava is quite popular.
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** Crow excited to go on a date with her Girlfriend in her new attire.

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** The author saying that there were no asexual characters after a certain character was called a virgin as an insult caused some controversy in the fandom, which [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings ended up in the author deleting her tumblr blog after heaps of harassment for her supposed acephobia]].[[note]]The author stated that she didn't know enough about asexuality to have an ace character and would need to do some research in order to accurately portray asexuality in the comic[[/note]]
** The censoring of the comic in order to appeal to publishers has broken the base quite a bit.

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** The author saying that there were no asexual characters after a certain character was called a virgin as an insult caused some controversy in the fandom, which [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings ended up in the author deleting her tumblr blog after heaps of harassment for her supposed acephobia]].[[note]]The author stated that she didn't know enough about asexuality to have an ace character shoehorned into an already written story, and would need to do some research in order to accurately portray asexuality in the comic[[/note]]
asexuality.[[/note]]
** The censoring of language in the comic in order to appeal to publishers has broken the base quite a bit.


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** This is however easily passed off, considering the story has barely started as of entering Titan's base.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite the supposed point of the story being Ava helping Wraitha reunite the demons together to take on TITAN, readers have pointed out that despite everything ''nobody'' likes Ava at all (some fans even consider it to be increasingly contrived) and she is no closer to even getting one person on her side making her quest seem pointless. Her recent moral event horizon moment has done little to help.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite the supposed point of the story being Ava helping Wraitha reunite the demons together to take on TITAN, readers have pointed out that despite everything ''nobody'' likes Ava at all (some fans even consider it to be increasingly contrived) and she is no closer to even getting one person on her side after several years worth of pages making her quest seem pointless. Her recent moral event horizon moment has done little to help.help the fandom's apathy.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite the supposed point of the story being Ava helping Wraitha reunite the demons together to take on TITAN, readers have pointed out that despite everything ''nobody'' likes Ava at all (some fans even consider it to be increasingly contrived) and she is no closer to even getting one person on her side making her quest seem pointless. Her recent moral event horizon moment has done little to help.
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* BaseBreaker: After the 2/13/14 update, Maggie is this. For more info, see the [[NightmareFuel/AvasDemon Nightmare Fuel page]].

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%% * BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: After the 2/13/14 update, Maggie is this. For more info, see the [[NightmareFuel/AvasDemon Nightmare Fuel page]].
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** Ava now looks like Wrathia, due to taking the vial. She now looks like the very person who made her life a living hell.
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The movies, but especially [[http://www.avasdemon.com/pages.php#1546 page 1546]]'s.

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** This is Wrathia, to some fans.



** [[spoiler: Ava after she slaughters dozens of followers who were merely civilians.]]

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** [[spoiler: Ava after she slaughters dozens of followers who were merely civilians.]]]] To be fair, she is mad with power at the moment.



** Maggie states that Gil "treats me like a human being and not like a piece of trash". This implies she'd gone through some heavy abuse in the past.

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** Maggie states that Gil "treats me like a human being and not like a piece of trash". This implies she'd gone through some heavy abuse stuff in the past.past. Despite representing lust, all Maggie wants is to be genuinely loved.


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** The hiatus from 2015 to 2016 has been met with a lot of discontent. The little updates we do get--though infrequent--really wows the audience.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Wrathia made the entirety of Ava's life miserable and constantly tormented her, simply because she wouldn't agree to make a 'pact'. Maybe if she'd actually '''explained''' what said pact was at any point, Ava would have be more amenable to cooperating.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Many fans believe that Maggie isn't as bad of a person as the comic presents her as, despite the fact that Maggie has been shown to be nothing but a violent and petty {{Jerkass}}. Furthermore, fans like to think of Maggie and Ava as their FanPreferredCouple, even though Maggie has tried to kill Ava on two separate occasions and talks badly about her at every opportunity.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Many fans believe DracoInLeatherPants:
** Wrathia, despite abusing Ava for years and having no remorse for such.
** Maggie to a lesser degree. The author herself stated
that Maggie isn't as bad of a person as the comic presents her as, despite the fact that Maggie has been shown to be nothing but a violent and petty {{Jerkass}}. Furthermore, fans like to think of Maggie and Ava as their FanPreferredCouple, even though Maggie has tried to kill Ava on two separate occasions and talks badly about her at every opportunity. is much more sympathetic.

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* FanPreferredCouple: Ava and Maggie. Odin and Ava has a growing fan base.

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* FanPreferredCouple: Ava and Maggie. Odin Odin, known as Flaming Arrow. Maggie/Ava and Ava has a growing fan base.Odin/Gil are also popular as gay ships.



** Maggie being willing to kill [[spoiler:Ava and Odin]] because the later refused to apologize to her for kidnapping her even though his actions saved her life. She's even angry when she discovers they survived the crash and then tries to convince Gil into sending Ava and Odin to the authorities.

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** Maggie being willing to kill [[spoiler:Ava and Odin]] because the later refused to apologize to her for kidnapping her even though his actions saved her life. She's even angry when [[spoiler: Ava after she discovers they survived the crash and then tries to convince Gil into sending Ava and Odin to the authorities.slaughters dozens of followers who were merely civilians.]]


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** Maggie states that Gil "treats me like a human being and not like a piece of trash". This implies she'd gone through some heavy abuse in the past.
** Ava blames herself for her fallout with Maggie. Not Wrathia. Herself.
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* {{Narm}}: If it was supposed to be taken seriously in the first place, the intro has Wrathia making Ava scribble "FUCK U AVA U FAT BITCH" on a page. It's really difficult to take seriously.
** Though the [[http://www.avasdemon.com/pages.php?page=0001 update of this panel]] is a bit more eerie with the rhyme "Die in a fire, Ava Ire" which brings on a more dark and less unintentionally comical atmosphere.
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Queer is a slur and many LGBT people still see it as such. Also tuching up on the aro/ace incident a bit more.


** The exclusion of aromantic/asexual characters caused some controversy in the fandom, which [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings ended up in the author deleting her tumblr blog]].

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** The exclusion of aromantic/asexual author saying that there were no asexual characters after a certain character was called a virgin as an insult caused some controversy in the fandom, which [[WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings ended up in the author deleting her tumblr blog]].blog after heaps of harassment for her supposed acephobia]].[[note]]The author stated that she didn't know enough about asexuality to have an ace character and would need to do some research in order to accurately portray asexuality in the comic[[/note]]



* WinBackTheCrowd: With base breaking going on for most of the 2014 summer over lack of queer representation, the reveal that Crow had a girlfriend was met quite well.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: With base breaking going on for most of the 2014 summer over lack of queer LGBT representation, the reveal that Crow had a girlfriend was met quite well.

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