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***Fridge Brilliance: In a way, it provides a Bookend to the play, because the first assassination typically depicted in the play, and first successful assassination chronicalogically, was committed in an a theater.
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* SignatureScene: “The Ballad of Booth”.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Presidential. Assassins. Musical.
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** The end where the assassins point their guns at the audience. Nowadays, a stage theater is one of the few places in America people ''haven’t'' been shot.
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** The end where the assassins point their guns at the audience. Nowadays, a stage theater is one of the few places in America people ''haven’t'' been shot. Yet.
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* JerkassWoobie: The collection of characters are anything but good people, but a lot of them end up being quite pitiable:
** John Wilkes Booth is actually a subversion of this. At first he’s presented in a sympathetic light, where he voices legitimate grievances against Abraham Lincoln, until the climax of his ballad where he calls him a “Nigger lover”. Booth goes on to repeat his earlier points about the ruination of his nation and the deaths of his countrymen, but as soon as he drops that slur, it becomes clear that the main reason for his crime was racism.
** John Wilkes Booth is actually a subversion of this. At first he’s presented in a sympathetic light, where he voices legitimate grievances against Abraham Lincoln, until the climax of his ballad where he calls him a “Nigger lover”. Booth goes on to repeat his earlier points about the ruination of his nation and the deaths of his countrymen, but as soon as he drops that slur, it becomes clear that the main reason for his crime was racism.
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* CompleteMonster: [[PsychoForHire Miguel Bain]] stands in marked contrast to protagonist [[HitmanWithAHeart Robert Rath]]. While Rath has standards about [[AssholeVictim the sort of people]] he assassinates and [[NeverHurtAnInnocent abhors hurting innocents]], Bain has a penchant for indiscriminately slaughtering everyone who gets in his way. In the first mission we see him on, he kills the target and his bodyguards, then [[CopKiller kills several police officers]] to escape from custody. When Rath later traps him in the back of a car, Bain prepares to [[WouldHurtAChild snipe a nearby child]] to make Rath back down. During an exchange between a hacker named Electra and a group of Dutch clients who turn out to be Interpol agents, he blows away every agent and bystander he runs into and promises Electra that he'll personally cut out her heart. Rath saves Electra, but not before Bain kills Electra's two downstairs neighbours for no real reason. Bain eventually reaches an understanding with his anonymous employer to [[ContractOnTheHitman kill Rath himself]], whom he perceives as an irritating rival. Even when Rath offers Bain the opportunity to part ways peacefully at the end, he elects to kill both Rath and Electra instead. Having no regard for any life he takes, Bain became a [[ProfessionalKiller contract killer]] largely for [[GloryHound glory]] and [[ForTheEvulz thrills]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[PsychoForHire Miguel Bain]] stands in marked contrast to protagonist [[HitmanWithAHeart Robert Rath]]. While Rath has standards about [[AssholeVictim the sort of people]] he assassinates and [[NeverHurtAnInnocent abhors hurting innocents]], Bain has a penchant for indiscriminately slaughtering everyone who gets in his way. In the first mission we see him on, he kills the target and his bodyguards, then [[CopKiller kills several police officers]] to escape from custody. When Rath later traps him in the back of a car, Bain prepares to [[WouldHurtAChild snipe a nearby child]] to make Rath back down. During an exchange between a hacker named Electra and a group of Dutch clients who turn out to be Interpol agents, he blows away every agent and bystander he runs into and promises Electra that he'll personally cut out her heart. Rath saves Electra, but not before Bain kills Electra's two downstairs neighbours for no real reason. Bain eventually reaches an understanding with his anonymous employer to [[ContractOnTheHitman kill Rath himself]], whom he perceives as an irritating rival. Even when Rath offers Bain the opportunity to part ways peacefully at the end, he elects to kill both Rath and Electra instead.instead (because as long as Rath is still alive, Bain will never feel like he earned the position of number-one assassin). Having no regard for any life he takes, Bain became a [[ProfessionalKiller contract killer]] largely for [[GloryHound glory]] and [[ForTheEvulz thrills]].
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* AcceptableTargets: Snobbish upperclass women wearing fur coats. One of Electra's [[EstablishingCharacterMoment introduction scenes]] shows her spray-painting a red "forbidden" sign on the back of one during an elevator ride.
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** The end where the assassins point their guns at the audience. Nowadays, a stage theater is one of the few places in America people ''haven’t'' been shot.
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** Denis O'Hare's screaming of "I SHALL BE REMEMBERED!" towards the end of the Ballad of Guiteau. Sure, it's funny at first when he talks about "promoting the sale of my book," but suddenly, the darker, psychotic side of his act shines through.
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** And it's seriously a problem. "What a wonder is a gun! What a versatile inveeeeeention!" Do not see before working with first graders and/or getting on a plane.
** "How I Saved Roosevelt" is another one you don't want to sing in public - ''"Too cold for the stomach in Washington/I go down to Miami, kill Roosevelt!"''
** And, of course, you do ''not'' want to get caught singing, ''"C'mere and kill a President..."''
** Nor do you want to be caught going ''"Damn you Lincoln, you righteous whoooooooooore!"''
** ''Everybody's got the right to some sunshine/not the sun but maybe one of its beams...''
** The Ballad of Guiteau counts, too. ''Look on the bright side, look on the bright side...''
** ''In the USA you can work your way to the head of the line...''
** And it's seriously a problem. "What a wonder is a gun! What a versatile inveeeeeention!" Do not see before working with first graders and/or getting on a plane.
** "How I Saved Roosevelt" is another one you don't want to sing in public - ''"Too cold for the stomach in Washington/I go down to Miami, kill Roosevelt!"''
** And, of course, you do ''not'' want to get caught singing, ''"C'mere and kill a President..."''
** Nor do you want to be caught going ''"Damn you Lincoln, you righteous whoooooooooore!"''
** ''Everybody's got the right to some sunshine/not the sun but maybe one of its beams...''
** The Ballad of Guiteau counts, too. ''Look on the bright side, look on the bright side...''
** ''In the USA you can work your way to the head of the line...''
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-->'''Balladeer:''' Listen to the stories, hear it in the songs:
-->Angry men don't write the rules, and guns don't right the wrongs.
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-->'''Balladeer:''' Listen to the stories, hear it in the songs:
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Angry men don't write the rules, and guns don't right the wrongs.
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Angry men don't write the rules, and guns don't right the wrongs.
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* CompleteMonster: [[PsychoForHire Miguel Bain]] stands in marked contrast to protagonist [[HitmanWithAHeart Robert Rath]]. While Rath has standards about [[AssholeVictim the sort of people]] he assassinates and [[NeverHurtAnInnocent abhors hurting innocents]], Bain has a penchant for indiscriminately slaughtering everyone who gets in his way. In the first mission we see him on, he kills the target and his bodyguards, then [[CopKiller kills several police officers]] to escape from custody. When Rath later traps him in the back of a car, Bain prepares to [[WouldHurtAChild snipe a nearby child]] to make Rath back down. During an exchange between a hacker named Electra and a group of Dutch clients who turn out to be Interpol agents, he blows away every agent and bystander he runs into and promises Electra that he'll personally cut out her heart. Rath saves Electra, but not before Bain kills Electra's two downstairs neighbours for no real reason. Bain eventually reaches an understanding with his anonymous employer to [[ContractOnTheHitman kill Rath himself]], whom he perceives as an irritating rival. Even when Rath offers Bain the opportunity to part ways peacefully at the end, he elects to kill both Rath and Electra instead. Having no regard for any life he takes, Bain became a [[ProfessionalKiller contract killer]] largely for glory and [[ForTheEvulz thrills]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[PsychoForHire Miguel Bain]] stands in marked contrast to protagonist [[HitmanWithAHeart Robert Rath]]. While Rath has standards about [[AssholeVictim the sort of people]] he assassinates and [[NeverHurtAnInnocent abhors hurting innocents]], Bain has a penchant for indiscriminately slaughtering everyone who gets in his way. In the first mission we see him on, he kills the target and his bodyguards, then [[CopKiller kills several police officers]] to escape from custody. When Rath later traps him in the back of a car, Bain prepares to [[WouldHurtAChild snipe a nearby child]] to make Rath back down. During an exchange between a hacker named Electra and a group of Dutch clients who turn out to be Interpol agents, he blows away every agent and bystander he runs into and promises Electra that he'll personally cut out her heart. Rath saves Electra, but not before Bain kills Electra's two downstairs neighbours for no real reason. Bain eventually reaches an understanding with his anonymous employer to [[ContractOnTheHitman kill Rath himself]], whom he perceives as an irritating rival. Even when Rath offers Bain the opportunity to part ways peacefully at the end, he elects to kill both Rath and Electra instead. Having no regard for any life he takes, Bain became a [[ProfessionalKiller contract killer]] largely for glory [[GloryHound glory]] and [[ForTheEvulz thrills]].
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* DirectorDisplacement: This was Creator/TheWachowski's first script (until it got changed), but Creator/RichardDonner directed.
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* DirectorDisplacement: This was Creator/TheWachowski's Creator/TheWachowskis' first script (until it got changed), but Creator/RichardDonner directed.
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* MemeticMutation: The scene where Banderas's character [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/antonio-banderas-laptop-reaction checks his computer]] has become a popular reaction GIF in the discussions about gaming news.
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* DirectorDisplacement: This was Creator/TheWachowski's first script (until it got changed), but Creator/RichardDonner directed.
* MemeticMutation: The scene whereBanderas's character Miguel [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/antonio-banderas-laptop-reaction checks his computer]] has become a popular reaction GIF in the discussions about gaming news.
* MemeticMutation: The scene where
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** Depending on your view, much of the show can be seen as either this or HilariousInHindsight after the 2016 presidential election, especially the parts in Byck's second monologue which sound almost disturbingly like he's discussing the origin of [[UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump "alternative facts"]]... Also this:
-->'''Balladeer:''' Listen to the stories, hear it in the songs:
-->Angry men don't write the rules, and guns don't right the wrongs.
-->Hurts a while, but soon the country's back where it belongs.
-->'''Balladeer:''' Listen to the stories, hear it in the songs:
-->Angry men don't write the rules, and guns don't right the wrongs.
-->Hurts a while, but soon the country's back where it belongs.
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* HarsherInHindsight: These lines tend to get laughter or applause after the controversial 2016 election of UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump :
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* HarsherInHindsight: These The entire show after 9/11, particularly Guiteau's religious fanaticism and Byck's plan to fly a plane into the White House. The revival was intended to open in November 2001, but after the attacks it was postponed for several years.
**These lines tend to get laughter or applause after the controversial 2016 election of UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump :
**These lines tend to get laughter or applause after the controversial 2016 election of UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump :
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** Guiteau's attempt to force a kiss on Sarah Jane Moore reveals a much more threatening side to him when he doesn't get what he wants.
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** Guiteau's attempt to force a kiss on Sarah Sara Jane Moore reveals a much more threatening side to him when he doesn't get what he wants.
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* HarsherInHindsight: These lines tend to get laughter or applause after the controversial 2016 election of Creator/DonaldTrump :
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* "Grab 'em by the collar" is also reminiscent of an infamous quote from Trump.
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->Every now and then the country goes a little wrong
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** "Grab 'em by the collar" is also rreminiscent of an infamous quote ffrom Trump.
->Every now and then a madman's bound to come along
** "Grab 'em by the collar" is also rreminiscent of an infamous quote ffrom Trump.
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* HarsherInHindsight: These lines tend to get laughter or applause after the controversial 2016 election of Creator/DonaldTrump :
->Every now and then the country goes a little wrong
->Every now and then a madman's bound to come along
** "Grab 'em by the collar" is also rreminiscent of an infamous quote ffrom Trump.
->Every now and then the country goes a little wrong
->Every now and then a madman's bound to come along
** "Grab 'em by the collar" is also rreminiscent of an infamous quote ffrom Trump.
** Guiteau's attempt to force a kiss on Sarah Jane Moore reveals a much more threatening side to him when he doesn't get what he wants.
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--> '''Ballader''': Yes, you made a little moment and you stirred a little mud / But it didn't fix the stomach and you've drunk your final Bud / And it didn't help the workers and it didn't heal the country / And it didn't make them listen / And they never said they're sorry."
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--> '''Ballader''': '''Balladeer''': Yes, you made a little moment and you stirred a little mud / But it didn't fix the stomach and you've drunk your final Bud / And it didn't help the workers and it didn't heal the country / And it didn't make them listen / And they never said they're sorry."
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** Some productions end "The Ballad of Guiteau" with showing Guiteau getting hung.
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** Depending on the production, Zangara's parts of "How I Saved Roosevelt" can be terrifying.
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** Depending on the production, When performed right, Zangara's parts of "How I Saved Roosevelt" can be terrifying.terrifying.
** Some productions end "The Ballad of Guiteau" with showing Guiteau getting hung.
** Some productions end "The Ballad of Guiteau" with showing Guiteau getting hung.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: The whole damn play.
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** Depending on the production, Zangara's parts of "How I Saved Roosevelt" can be horrifying.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Depending on the route the director and actors involve take, the Balladeer can come off either as a pompous, smug, condescending prick who [[AssholeVictim got what was coming to him]], or simply as a naive WideEyedIdealist who's in ''way'' over his head. (If they take the former route, [[spoiler:the Balladeer being turned into Oswald]] comes off as karma. If they take the latter, it just comes off as ''tragic''.)
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Depending on the route the director and actorsinvolve involved take, the Balladeer can come off either as a pompous, smug, condescending prick who [[AssholeVictim got what was coming to him]], or simply as a naive WideEyedIdealist who's in ''way'' over his head. (If they take the former route, [[spoiler:the Balladeer being turned into Oswald]] comes off as karma. If they take the latter, it just comes off as ''tragic''.))
** Exactly how sympathetic the assassins are varies from production to production. (Czolgosz usually gets the most sympathy, though.)
** Is the Balladeer an annoying WideEyedIdealist who's hopelessly naive about the nature of the so-called "American Dream", who shouldn't judge the assassins so harshly and be so quick to dismiss them? Or is he just annoying because he's ''right''? As he points out in "Another National Anthem", ''none'' of the assassins actually got what they wanted in the end.
** Depending on the route the director and actors
** Exactly how sympathetic the assassins are varies from production to production. (Czolgosz usually gets the most sympathy, though.)
** Is the Balladeer an annoying WideEyedIdealist who's hopelessly naive about the nature of the so-called "American Dream", who shouldn't judge the assassins so harshly and be so quick to dismiss them? Or is he just annoying because he's ''right''? As he points out in "Another National Anthem", ''none'' of the assassins actually got what they wanted in the end.
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* OneSceneWonder: Depending on the direction, The Proprietor may pop up throughout the rest of the show, but he's only scripted for the opening scene, leading "Everybody's Got the Right". In the original production, Lee Harvey Oswald was this as well, though ever since the 2004 Broadway revival, it has become common practice to double him with The Balladeer.
** The Housewife who sings the main solo in "Something Just Broke"
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* OneSceneWonder: OneSceneWonder:
** Depending on the direction, The Proprietor may pop up throughout the rest of the show, but he's only scripted for the opening scene, leading "Everybody's Got theRight". Right".
** In the original production, Lee Harvey Oswald was this as well, though ever since the 2004 Broadway revival, it has become common practice to double him with TheBalladeer.
Balladeer. Still, the actor only acts as Oswald for that one scene. And what a scene it is!
** The Housewife who sings the main solo in "Something JustBroke"Broke".
** Emma Goldman is pretty memorable, too.
** Depending on the direction, The Proprietor may pop up throughout the rest of the show, but he's only scripted for the opening scene, leading "Everybody's Got the
** In the original production, Lee Harvey Oswald was this as well, though ever since the 2004 Broadway revival, it has become common practice to double him with The
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** Emma Goldman is pretty memorable, too.
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