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8th May '16 8:22:55 AM AdelePotter
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Depending on the route the director and actors involve take, the Balladeer can come off either as a pompous, smug, condescending prick who [[AssholeVictim got what was coming to him]], or simply as a naive WideEyedIdealist who's in ''way'' over his head. (If they take the former route, [[spoiler:the Balladeer being turned into Oswald]] comes off as karma. If they take the latter, it just comes off as ''tragic''.)

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
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Depending on the route the director and actors involve involved take, the Balladeer can come off either as a pompous, smug, condescending prick who [[AssholeVictim got what was coming to him]], or simply as a naive WideEyedIdealist who's in ''way'' over his head. (If they take the former route, [[spoiler:the Balladeer being turned into Oswald]] comes off as karma. If they take the latter, it just comes off as ''tragic''.))
** Exactly how sympathetic the assassins are varies from production to production. (Czolgosz usually gets the most sympathy, though.)
** Is the Balladeer an annoying WideEyedIdealist who's hopelessly naive about the nature of the so-called "American Dream", who shouldn't judge the assassins so harshly and be so quick to dismiss them? Or is he just annoying because he's ''right''? As he points out in "Another National Anthem", ''none'' of the assassins actually got what they wanted in the end.



* OneSceneWonder: Depending on the direction, The Proprietor may pop up throughout the rest of the show, but he's only scripted for the opening scene, leading "Everybody's Got the Right". In the original production, Lee Harvey Oswald was this as well, though ever since the 2004 Broadway revival, it has become common practice to double him with The Balladeer.
** The Housewife who sings the main solo in "Something Just Broke"

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* OneSceneWonder: OneSceneWonder:
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Depending on the direction, The Proprietor may pop up throughout the rest of the show, but he's only scripted for the opening scene, leading "Everybody's Got the Right". Right".
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In the original production, Lee Harvey Oswald was this as well, though ever since the 2004 Broadway revival, it has become common practice to double him with The Balladeer.
Balladeer. Still, the actor only acts as Oswald for that one scene. And what a scene it is!
** The Housewife who sings the main solo in "Something Just Broke"Broke".
** Emma Goldman is pretty memorable, too.
1st Nov '15 8:59:54 PM Pannic
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** The Housewife who sings the main solo in "Something Just Broke"
26th Aug '15 7:02:28 AM Morgenthaler
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* CompleteMonster: [[PsychoForHire Miguel Bain]] stands in marked contrast to protagonist [[HitmanWithAHeart Robert Rath]]. While Rath has standards about the people he assassinates and [[NeverHurtAnInnocent abhors hurting innocents]], Bain has a penchant for indiscriminately slaughtering everyone who gets in his way. In the first mission we see him on, he kills the target and his bodyguards, then [[CopKiller kills several police officers]] to escape from custody. When Rath later traps him in the back of a car, Bain prepares to [[WouldHurtAChild snipe a nearby child]] to make Rath back down. During an exchange between a hacker named Electra and a group of Dutch clients who turn out to be Interpol agents, he blows away every agent and bystander he runs into and promises Electra that he'll personally cut out her heart. Rath saves Electra, but not before Bain kills Electra's two downstairs neighbours for no real reason. Bain eventually reaches an understanding with his anonymous employer to [[ContractOnTheHitman kill Rath himself]], whom he perceives as an irritating rival. Even when Rath offers Bain the opportunity to part ways peacefully at the end, he elects to kill both Rath and Electra instead. Having no regard for any life he takes, Bain became a [[ProfessionalKiller contract killer]] largely for glory and [[ForTheEvulz thrills]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[PsychoForHire Miguel Bain]] stands in marked contrast to protagonist [[HitmanWithAHeart Robert Rath]]. While Rath has standards about [[AssholeVictim the people sort of people]] he assassinates and [[NeverHurtAnInnocent abhors hurting innocents]], Bain has a penchant for indiscriminately slaughtering everyone who gets in his way. In the first mission we see him on, he kills the target and his bodyguards, then [[CopKiller kills several police officers]] to escape from custody. When Rath later traps him in the back of a car, Bain prepares to [[WouldHurtAChild snipe a nearby child]] to make Rath back down. During an exchange between a hacker named Electra and a group of Dutch clients who turn out to be Interpol agents, he blows away every agent and bystander he runs into and promises Electra that he'll personally cut out her heart. Rath saves Electra, but not before Bain kills Electra's two downstairs neighbours for no real reason. Bain eventually reaches an understanding with his anonymous employer to [[ContractOnTheHitman kill Rath himself]], whom he perceives as an irritating rival. Even when Rath offers Bain the opportunity to part ways peacefully at the end, he elects to kill both Rath and Electra instead. Having no regard for any life he takes, Bain became a [[ProfessionalKiller contract killer]] largely for glory and [[ForTheEvulz thrills]].
28th Jun '15 12:37:29 AM Morgenthaler
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* CompleteMonster: [[PsychoForHire Miguel Bain]] stands in marked contrast to protagonist [[HitmanWithAHeart Robert Rath]]. Where Rath has standards about the people he assassinates and [[NeverHurtAnInnocent abhors hurting innocents]], Bain has a penchant for indiscrimately slaughtering everyone who gets in his way. In the first mission we see him on, he kills the target and his bodyguards, then [[CopKiller kills several police officers]] to escape from custody. When Rath later traps him in the back of a car, Bain prepares to [[WouldHurtAChild snipe a nearby child]] to make Rath back down. During an exchange between a hacker named Electra and a group of Dutch clients who turn out to be Interpol agents, he blows away every agent and bystander he runs into and promises Electra that he'll personally cut out her heart. Rath saves Electra, but not before Bain kills Electra's two downstairs neighbours for no real reason. Bain eventually reaches an understanding with his anonymous employer to [[ContractOnTheHitman kill Rath himself]], whom he perceives as an irritating rival. Even when Rath offers Bain the opportunity to part ways peacefully at the end, he elects to kill both Rath and Electra instead. Having no regard for any life he takes, Bain became a [[ProfessionalKiller contract killer]] largely for glory and [[ForTheEvulz thrills]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[PsychoForHire Miguel Bain]] stands in marked contrast to protagonist [[HitmanWithAHeart Robert Rath]]. Where While Rath has standards about the people he assassinates and [[NeverHurtAnInnocent abhors hurting innocents]], Bain has a penchant for indiscrimately indiscriminately slaughtering everyone who gets in his way. In the first mission we see him on, he kills the target and his bodyguards, then [[CopKiller kills several police officers]] to escape from custody. When Rath later traps him in the back of a car, Bain prepares to [[WouldHurtAChild snipe a nearby child]] to make Rath back down. During an exchange between a hacker named Electra and a group of Dutch clients who turn out to be Interpol agents, he blows away every agent and bystander he runs into and promises Electra that he'll personally cut out her heart. Rath saves Electra, but not before Bain kills Electra's two downstairs neighbours for no real reason. Bain eventually reaches an understanding with his anonymous employer to [[ContractOnTheHitman kill Rath himself]], whom he perceives as an irritating rival. Even when Rath offers Bain the opportunity to part ways peacefully at the end, he elects to kill both Rath and Electra instead. Having no regard for any life he takes, Bain became a [[ProfessionalKiller contract killer]] largely for glory and [[ForTheEvulz thrills]].
18th Jun '15 10:39:51 AM AdelePotter
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Depending on the route the director and actors involve take, the Balladeer can come off either as a pompous, smug, condescending prick who [[AssholeVictim got what was coming to him]], or simply as a naive WideEyedIdealist who's in ''way'' over his head. (If they take the former route, [[spoiler:the Balladeer being turned into Oswald]] comes off as karma. If they take the latter, it just comes off as ''tragic''.)
3rd Jun '15 7:59:00 AM rememberthehood1941
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** If done with a strong cast of actors and direction, the whole play is nightmare-inducing because you sympathize with people who have seriously hurt/killed others because they didn't get what they wanted.
1st Jun '15 8:27:38 AM rememberthehood1941
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: The Balladeer may represent the American Dream [[AssholeVictim and be smug and condescending depending on which interpretation you watch]] but, as he points out during "Another National Anthem", shooting the Presidents didn't solve the Assassins' problems.
--> '''Ballader''': Yes, you made a little moment and you stirred a little mud / But it didn't fix the stomach and you've drunk your final Bud / And it didn't help the workers and it didn't heal the country / And it didn't make them listen / And they never said they're sorry."
31st Dec '14 7:41:03 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[PsychoForHire Miguel Bain]] stands in marked contrast to protagonist [[HitmanWithAHeart Robert Rath]]. Where Rath has standards about the people he assassinates and [[NeverHurtAnInnocent abhors hurting innocents]], Bain has a penchant for indiscrimately slaughtering everyone who gets in his way. In the first mission we see him on, he kills the target and his bodyguards, then [[CopKiller kills several police officers]] to escape from custody. When Rath later traps him in the back of a car, Bain prepares to [[WouldHurtAChild snipe a nearby child]] to make Rath back down. During an exchange between a hacker named Electra and a group of Dutch clients who turn out to be Interpol agents, he blows away every agent and bystander he runs into and promises Electra that he'll personally cut out her heart. Rath saves Electra, but not before Bain kills Electra's two downstairs neighbours for no real reason. Bain eventually reaches an understanding with his anonymous employer to [[ContractOnTheHitman kill Rath himself]], whom he perceives as an irritating rival. Even when Rath offers Bain the opportunity to part ways peacefully at the end, he elects to kill both Rath and Electra instead. Having no regard for any life he takes, Bain became a [[ProfessionalKiller contract killer]] largely for glory and thrills.

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* CompleteMonster: [[PsychoForHire Miguel Bain]] stands in marked contrast to protagonist [[HitmanWithAHeart Robert Rath]]. Where Rath has standards about the people he assassinates and [[NeverHurtAnInnocent abhors hurting innocents]], Bain has a penchant for indiscrimately slaughtering everyone who gets in his way. In the first mission we see him on, he kills the target and his bodyguards, then [[CopKiller kills several police officers]] to escape from custody. When Rath later traps him in the back of a car, Bain prepares to [[WouldHurtAChild snipe a nearby child]] to make Rath back down. During an exchange between a hacker named Electra and a group of Dutch clients who turn out to be Interpol agents, he blows away every agent and bystander he runs into and promises Electra that he'll personally cut out her heart. Rath saves Electra, but not before Bain kills Electra's two downstairs neighbours for no real reason. Bain eventually reaches an understanding with his anonymous employer to [[ContractOnTheHitman kill Rath himself]], whom he perceives as an irritating rival. Even when Rath offers Bain the opportunity to part ways peacefully at the end, he elects to kill both Rath and Electra instead. Having no regard for any life he takes, Bain became a [[ProfessionalKiller contract killer]] largely for glory and thrills.[[ForTheEvulz thrills]].
30th Dec '14 9:55:34 AM Morgenthaler
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* EarWorm: And it's seriously a problem. "What a wonder is a gun! What a versatile inveeeeeention!" Do not see before working with first graders and/or getting on a plane.

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And it's seriously a problem. "What a wonder is a gun! What a versatile inveeeeeention!" Do not see before working with first graders and/or getting on a plane.
30th Dec '14 9:53:30 AM Morgenthaler
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* WhamLine: Most of "The Ballad of Booth" paints John Wilkes Booth as having a legitimate grievance against Abraham Lincoln, and might even garner some audience sympathy...then, near the very end of the song, he calls the President a "Nigger lover," and suddenly we realize how much of his hatred was motivated by racism.
** An in-universe example from "Something Just Broke": "The president's been shot..."
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