History YMMV / AngelBeats

9th Mar '17 12:52:50 PM DavidDelony
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* WhatAnIdiot: Even after all the time they've been fighting Angel, nobody in SSS has ever bothered trying to figure out Angel's ''real name''.
Only Yuri had apparently heard it before, but she just didn't bother trying to remember it.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Even after all the time they've been fighting Angel, nobody in SSS has ever bothered trying to figure out Angel's ''real name''. \n Only Yuri had apparently heard it before, but she just didn't bother trying to remember it.
9th Mar '17 12:51:33 PM DavidDelony
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* CriticProof: After receiving some flak for not developing some of the characters, due to the [[ExecutiveMeddling imposed halving of the number of episodes]], the series has become one of Key's most popular properties. The series' female characters [[TheMerch dominate Key's merchandising tables]].



* WhatAnIdiot: Even after all the time they've been fighting Angel, nobody in SSS has ever bothered trying to figure out Angel's ''real name''. Only Yuri had apparently heard it before, but she just didn't bother trying to remember it.

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* VindicatedByHistory: After receiving some initial flak for not developing some of the characters, due to the [[ExecutiveMeddling imposed halving of the number of episodes]], the series has become one of Key's most popular properties. The series' female characters [[TheMerch dominate Key's merchandising tables]].
* WhatAnIdiot: Even after all the time they've been fighting Angel, nobody in SSS has ever bothered trying to figure out Angel's ''real name''.
Only Yuri had apparently heard it before, but she just didn't bother trying to remember it.
9th Mar '17 9:29:41 AM Cieloazul
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* CriticProof: After receiving some flak for not developing some of the characters, due to the [[ExecutiveMeddling imposed halving of the number of episodes]], the series has become one of Key's most popular properties. The series' female characters [[TheMerch dominate Key's merchandising tables]].



* {{Glurge}}: The {{A|nAesop}}esop seemed to be: "Any desires you may have or actions you may take are completely useless and you shouldn't have them. Strive instead for nonexistence. All you should want is to be erased, you and your meaningless journey though life."
** Although that ''is'' essentially the Aesop of Buddhist philosophy.
** Alternatively, the Aesop could be interpreted as "Even if you're treated cruelly by life, you can still find happiness and bring joy to others, and those feelings won't have been meaningless, even after you're all dead and gone." Still somewhat {{glurge}}-y, but, well, it's Key.



* StrangledByTheRedString: Many fans felt that the [[spoiler:Otonashi and Kanade hookup]] at the finale came a bit too unexpected, as until that point it is never made evident that his feelings for her are romantic or more intense that a tepid friendship. This is one of the most divisive points of the series, and a good part of the people who didn't like the finale would have seen it better without they hooking up or at least counting on more development. Then again, given the short run of the anime, the latter would have been difficult to pull without fall in a probably not better received RomanticPlotTumor.It doesn't help that the anime made it seem like Kanade was taking the role of surrogate sister up until that point.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Many fans felt that the [[spoiler:Otonashi and Kanade hookup]] LastMinuteHookup]] at the finale came a bit too unexpected, unexpectedly, as until up to that point it is never made evident that his feelings for her are romantic in nature or more intense that a tepid friendship. friendship (or even a surrogate fraternal relationship, as the anime suggests sometimes). This is one of the most divisive points of the series, and a good part of the people who didn't like detractors of the finale would have seen liked it better without they them hooking up or at least counting on having more development. development previously. Then again, given the short run of the anime, the latter would have been difficult to pull without fall falling in a probably not better received RomanticPlotTumor.It doesn't help that the anime made it seem like Kanade was taking the role of surrogate sister up until that point.



* VindicatedByHistory: After receiving some flak for not developing some of the characters, due to the [[ExecutiveMeddling imposed halving of the number of episodes]], the series has become one of Key's most popular properties. The series' female characters [[TheMerch dominate Key's merchandising tables]].

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* VindicatedByHistory: After receiving some flak for not developing some ValuesDissonance: The {{A|nAesop}}esop of the characters, due to the [[ExecutiveMeddling imposed halving of the number of episodes]], the series has become one seems to be: "Any desires you may have or actions you may take are completely useless and you shouldn't have them. Strive instead for nonexistence. All you should want is to be erased, you and your meaningless journey though life." While it might sound like a particularly bad example of Key's most popular properties. The series' female characters [[TheMerch dominate Key's merchandising tables]].{{Glurge}} to Western viewers, it is essentially the main aesop of Buddhist philosophy, a belief rarely enforced in anime media but yet very idiosyncratical of a country in which Buddhism is the second main religion.
** Alternatively, the Aesop could be interpreted as "Even if you're treated cruelly by life, you can still find happiness and bring joy to others, and those feelings won't have been meaningless, even after you're all dead and gone." Still somewhat {{glurge}}-y, but, well, it's Key.
16th Feb '17 1:41:02 AM echochan
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Many fans felt that the [[spoiler:Otonashi and Kanade hookup]] at the finale came a bit too unexpected, as until that point it is never made evident that his feelings for her are romantic or more intense that a tepid friendship. This is one of the most divisive points of the series, and a good part of the people who didn't like the finale would have seen it better without they hooking up or at least counting on more development. Then again, given the short run of the anime, the latter would have been difficult to pull without fall in a probably not better received RomanticPlotTumor.
** The same thing occurs with [[spoiler:Yui and Hinata]] in episode 11. Considering the only sort of expression either has expressed at each other are various levels of annoyance, it comes as quite a surprise when [[spoiler:not only does Hinata say he loves Yui but [[UpToEleven wants to marry her]]]]. Even if [[spoiler:it was to help her pass on]], it's still really sudden and doesn't come with a lot of buildup.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Many fans felt that the [[spoiler:Otonashi and Kanade hookup]] at the finale came a bit too unexpected, as until that point it is never made evident that his feelings for her are romantic or more intense that a tepid friendship. This is one of the most divisive points of the series, and a good part of the people who didn't like the finale would have seen it better without they hooking up or at least counting on more development. Then again, given the short run of the anime, the latter would have been difficult to pull without fall in a probably not better received RomanticPlotTumor.
RomanticPlotTumor.It doesn't help that the anime made it seem like Kanade was taking the role of surrogate sister up until that point.
** The same thing occurs with [[spoiler:Yui and Hinata]] in episode 11. Considering the only sort of expression either has expressed at each other are various levels of annoyance, it comes as quite a surprise when [[spoiler:not only does Hinata say he loves Yui but [[UpToEleven wants to marry her]]]]. Even if [[spoiler:it was to help her pass on]], it's still really sudden and doesn't come with a lot of buildup.This becomes more apparent when compared to the development of Hinata and Yuri's relationship in the prequel manga, which seems much more romantic in nature. In comparison, Yui and Hinata's rushed relationship seems more sibling-like.
19th Oct '16 5:32:09 PM Valiona
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** The setting is in some ways similar to the version of Yasogami in ''VideoGame/PersonaQShadowOfTheLabyrinth'', as a high school populated by Shadows, "NPC" characters with basic programmed responses to people, and the spirits of people who lived short and unfulfilling lives ([[spoiler:although there's only one in Persona Q's case, and the cast of both Persona 3 and 4 are all alive... for now]]). Going off this, Yui also has some similarities with [[spoiler:Rei, also known as Niko]], since both of them died quite young after being unable to do many things because of their conditions, and ultimately pass on with the help of the guys they like (Yui has Hinata and [[spoiler:Rei has Zen]]).



* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Yui prevents Hinata from winning his team's baseball game in episode 4. Six episodes later, [[spoiler:Hinata helps her move on by promising to marry her in her next life even if she's paralyzed in that life too, meaning if it weren't for him ''she'd be stuck in Purgatory for a long time!'']]

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Yui prevents Hinata from winning his team's baseball game in episode 4.4, realizing that [[spoiler:if he makes the catch that's exactly the same as the one he failed to make in life, he'll move on]]. Six episodes later, [[spoiler:Hinata helps her move on by promising to marry her in her next life even if she's paralyzed in that life too, meaning if it weren't for him ''she'd be stuck in Purgatory for a long time!'']]
31st Aug '16 2:15:16 PM Twiddler
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* CounterpartComparison: Yuri is often referred to as [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya Haruhi]] with a different hair color and outfit.
30th Jul '16 11:49:30 PM SingElise
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** This troper has to disagree. The fact that [[she was paralysed in life and cared for by her mother]] should not make her an unacceptable target. The fact that Hinata can attack her at all would be amazing to her. She spent all her life probably being handled with kid gloves, and it's in her character that the last thing she'd want to to be treated differently.
29th Jul '16 12:16:02 AM luisedgarf
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** In a more meta-example, the whole deal with Otonashi [[spoiler:becoming a organ donor after dying]] is this when Jun Maeda, the scriptwriter, recently announced [[spoiler:he will need a heart transplant]].
28th Mar '16 4:43:30 PM Cybaria
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** This troper has to disagree. The fact that [[she was paralysed in life and cared for by her mother]] should not make her an unacceptable target. The fact that Hinata can attack her at all would be amazing to her. She spent all her life probably being handled with kid gloves, and it's in her character that the last thing she'd want to to be treated differently.
18th Mar '16 4:07:41 PM DavidDelony
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* VindicatedByHistory: After receiving some flak for not developing some of the characters, due to the [[ExecutiveMeddling imposed halving of the number of episodes]], the series has become one of Key's most popular properties. The series female characters [[TheMerch dominate Key's merchandising tables]].

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* VindicatedByHistory: After receiving some flak for not developing some of the characters, due to the [[ExecutiveMeddling imposed halving of the number of episodes]], the series has become one of Key's most popular properties. The series series' female characters [[TheMerch dominate Key's merchandising tables]].
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