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* SeasonalRot: Most fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge (halfway through the second season), before the show become all about Dylan and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped, with each season being progressively worse and further from the show's original vision until in the final one the crew were all stuck on a craptastic planet named Seefra from the premiere until the penultimate episode, which was as interesting as it sounds. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.

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* SeasonalRot: Most fans tend to think that Andromeda ''Andromeda'' ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge (halfway through the second season), before the show become all about Dylan and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped, with each season being progressively worse and further from the show's original vision until in the final one the crew were all stuck on a craptastic planet named Seefra from the premiere until the penultimate episode, which was as interesting as it sounds. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan. Although as Wolfe noted, remaining writers from his time as showrunner did try their best to realize parts of his plan in some episodes of Seasons 2 and 3 before the rot fully sunk in, and "The Unconquerable Man" from Season 3 is a fan favorite.

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* SeasonalRot: Most fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge (halfway through the second season), before the show become all about Dylan and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.

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** Machen-Alpha security officer and secret android Carter is played by Creator/RogerCross, he of many roles, including Joshua on ''Series/FirstWave'', Six on ''Series/DarkMatter'' and Travis Verta on ''Series/{{Continuum}}''.
* SeasonalRot: Most fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge (halfway through the second season), before the show become all about Dylan and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped.dropped, with each season being progressively worse and further from the show's original vision until in the final one the crew were all stuck on a craptastic planet named Seefra from the premiere until the penultimate episode, which was as interesting as it sounds. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: One of the rare examples of a show that became one even during its original airing as it started out as a contemporary of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' and ended up as a contemporary of ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003''. Unfortunately for ''Andromeda'', this is a show with a design aesthetic far closer to the former than the latter and suffered for it in the new wave of DarkerAndEdgier sci-fi that followed. A more specific example can also be found in season 3 where we suddenly started to get a lot of ''Series/TwentyFour'' inspired split-screen that instantly dates this show to a time where this was in vogue.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Dylan gets called out by this several times, especially be Nietzscheans. He is almost never bluffing, up to and including calling down nuclear-level weapons on his own position.

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Dylan gets called out by this several times, especially be by Nietzscheans. He is almost never bluffing, up to and including calling down nuclear-level weapons on his own position.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The opening of the show states that "[[https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Long_Night The Long Night]] has come..."

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* HilariousInHindsight: The opening of the show states that "[[https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Long_Night The Long Night]] has come..."come…"
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* HilariousInHindsight: The opening of the show states that "[[https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Long_Night The Long Night]] has come..."

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You can’t say that him being in the show at all is harsher in hindsight, it’s for more specific things.


* GrowingTheBeard: The series' lighting, make-up, costuming, and writing improves after the first mid-season break (beginning with "Music of a Distant Drum" and "Harper 2.0"), and introduces the Magog/Spirit of the Abyss plot and a shift to a more ensemble-based set up. The cheese also shifts from embarrassing to self-aware and fun. Many fans believe this was undone shortly after "Ouroboros," while others feel that episode was when the show truly Grew the Beard. Later in the series [[https://www.trektoday.com/news/231101_05.shtml overarching story and character arcs were dropped in favor of episodic episodes]]. Story lines where changed to focus mostly on Dylan. Most appear to [[https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-10-most-mortifying-seasons-of-science-fiction-and-f-5855113?IR=T agree that the beard stopped growing after season two.]]

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* GrowingTheBeard: The series' lighting, make-up, costuming, and writing improves after the first mid-season break (beginning with "Music of a Distant Drum" and "Harper 2.0"), and introduces the Magog/Spirit of the Abyss plot and a shift to a more ensemble-based set up. The cheese also shifts from embarrassing to self-aware and fun. Many fans believe this was undone shortly after "Ouroboros," while others feel that episode was when the show truly Grew the Beard. Later in the series [[https://www.trektoday.com/news/231101_05.shtml overarching story and character arcs were dropped in favor of episodic episodes]]. Story lines where Storylines were changed to focus mostly on Dylan. Most appear to [[https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-10-most-mortifying-seasons-of-science-fiction-and-f-5855113?IR=T agree that the beard stopped growing after season two.]]



* HarsherInHindsight: Creator/KevinSorbo's role in this series as the lead can be a bit more uncomfortable to sit through these days given his increasingly [[TheFundamentalist vocal and often hostile statements on religion]].
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* SeasonalRot: Most fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge (halfway through the second season). Before the show become all about Dylan and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.

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* SeasonalRot: Most fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge (halfway through the second season). Before season), before the show become all about Dylan and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: While the fandom is split regarding this, some many of the plot twists throughout the show were introduced to fix problematic characters or elements.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: While the fandom is shows fans are split regarding this, some many of the plot twists throughout the show were introduced to fix problematic characters or elements.
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"hard core" and "circle" seem to be included to indicate that only unreasonable "fans" had that opinion. Making more neutral


* AuthorsSavingThrow: Obviously the "hardcore fans" will not agree with this observation, but to those outside that circle, it is fairly obvious that many of the plot twists throughout the show were introduced to fix problematic characters or elements.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Obviously While the "hardcore fans" will not agree with this observation, but to those outside that circle, it fandom is fairly obvious that split regarding this, some many of the plot twists throughout the show were introduced to fix problematic characters or elements.



* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge (halfway through the second season). Before the show become all about Dylan and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.

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* SeasonalRot: Most hard core fans tend to think that Andromeda ended at "Ouroboros", the last episode made with Robert Hewitt Wolfe in charge (halfway through the second season). Before the show become all about Dylan and the seasonal plot arcs were dropped. After the series ended, Wolfe produced a short story called "Coda" that ignored everything after "Ouroboros" and told his plan.
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* GrowingTheBeard: The series' lighting, make-up, costuming, and writing improves after the first mid-season break (beginning with "Music of a Distant Drum" and "Harper 2.0"), and introduces the Magog/Spirit of the Abyss plot and a shift to a more ensemble-based set up. The cheese also shifts from embarrassing to self-aware and fun. Many fans believe this was undone shortly after "Ouroboros," while others feel that episode was when the show truly Grew the Beard. Considering later on the series [[https://www.trektoday.com/news/231101_05.shtml overarching story and character arcs were dropped in favor of episodic episodes]]. Story lines where changed to focus mostly on Dylan. Most appear to [[https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-10-most-mortifying-seasons-of-science-fiction-and-f-5855113?IR=T agree that the beard stopped growing after season two.]]

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* GrowingTheBeard: The series' lighting, make-up, costuming, and writing improves after the first mid-season break (beginning with "Music of a Distant Drum" and "Harper 2.0"), and introduces the Magog/Spirit of the Abyss plot and a shift to a more ensemble-based set up. The cheese also shifts from embarrassing to self-aware and fun. Many fans believe this was undone shortly after "Ouroboros," while others feel that episode was when the show truly Grew the Beard. Considering later on Later in the series [[https://www.trektoday.com/news/231101_05.shtml overarching story and character arcs were dropped in favor of episodic episodes]]. Story lines where changed to focus mostly on Dylan. Most appear to [[https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-10-most-mortifying-seasons-of-science-fiction-and-f-5855113?IR=T agree that the beard stopped growing after season two.]]

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* GrowingTheBeard: The series' lighting, make-up, costuming, and writing improves after the first mid-season break (beginning with "Music of a Distant Drum" and "Harper 2.0"), and introduces the Magog/Spirit of the Abyss plot and a shift to a more ensemble-based set up. The cheese also shifts from embarrassing to self-aware and fun. Many fans believe this was undone shortly after "Ouroboros," while others feel that episode was when the show truly Grew the Beard.
** Considering later on the series [[https://www.trektoday.com/news/231101_05.shtml overarching story and character arcs were dropped in favor of episodic episodes]]. Story lines where changed to focus mostly on Dylan. Most appear to agree that the beard stopped growing after season two.

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* GrowingTheBeard: The series' lighting, make-up, costuming, and writing improves after the first mid-season break (beginning with "Music of a Distant Drum" and "Harper 2.0"), and introduces the Magog/Spirit of the Abyss plot and a shift to a more ensemble-based set up. The cheese also shifts from embarrassing to self-aware and fun. Many fans believe this was undone shortly after "Ouroboros," while others feel that episode was when the show truly Grew the Beard.
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Beard. Considering later on the series [[https://www.trektoday.com/news/231101_05.shtml overarching story and character arcs were dropped in favor of episodic episodes]]. Story lines where changed to focus mostly on Dylan. Most appear to [[https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-10-most-mortifying-seasons-of-science-fiction-and-f-5855113?IR=T agree that the beard stopped growing after season two.]]
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**Considering later on the series [[https://www.trektoday.com/news/231101_05.shtml overarching story and character arcs were dropped in favor of episodic episodes]]. Story lines where changed to focus mostly on Dylan. Most appear to agree that the beard stopped growing after season two.
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There is no source indicating the writers chose to write out Tyr to replace with a better character. The actor himself decided to leave the show to his character being reduced from Machiavellian character to one note leg breaker. Also due to the quality of writing from season three onward.


** After three seasons of attempting to develop Tyr Anasazi while also looking for any excuse to bring Gaheris Rhade back with a flashback or alternate timeline, the writers finally threw up their hands and concluded that Rhade might offer more for writers and viewers, having a more tangible personality and a somewhat more enthusiastic actor, so they wrote Tyr out and brought in Rhade's clone descendant.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Andromeda is a character from Greek mythology renowned for her beauty; which is probably where the producers got the idea of having the personification of the ship be a hologram of a beautiful woman.
* FridgeHorror: If post-Ouroboros Trance is adult Trance, then does that make pre-Ouroboros underaged Trance? [[LessDisturbingInContext Much less squicky]] once it's established that she's [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld several billion years old]] [[GeniusLoci star]] using an [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith artificial humanoid body]] as a sockpuppet.
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* InformedAttribute: The Magog are treated as the most terrifying race in the universe. When they actually appear onscreen, they... don't quite live up to the hype. Not only are they very obviously [[SpecialEffectsFailure people lumbering awkwardly in animal suits]], but they get shot down as easily as Storm Troopers when a swarm is attacking a small group of heroes, and have some cringe-worthy dialogue like [[YouNoTakeCandle "Leader... not want food?"]] that seems more fitting for a show aimed at very young children than a sci-fi drama. It's probably not a coincidence that the Magog were replaced by other villains in later seasons, and when they did crop up, were rarely actually shown outside their attacking ships. On the other hand, they can actually become genuinely terrifying once you know what they're actually capable of, particularly with regards to their [[ChestBurster reproductive methods]]. Just goes to show that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

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* InformedAttribute: The Magog are treated as the most terrifying race in the universe. When they actually appear onscreen, they... they don't quite live up to the hype. Not only are they very obviously [[SpecialEffectsFailure people lumbering awkwardly in animal suits]], but they get shot down as easily as ''Star Wars'' Storm Troopers when a swarm is attacking a small group of heroes, and have some cringe-worthy dialogue like [[YouNoTakeCandle "Leader... not want food?"]] that seems more fitting for a show aimed at very young children than a sci-fi drama. It's probably not a coincidence that the Magog were replaced by other villains in later seasons, and when they did crop up, were rarely actually shown outside their attacking ships. On the other hand, they can actually become genuinely terrifying once you know what they're actually capable of, particularly with regards to their [[ChestBurster reproductive methods]]. Just goes to show that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.
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** The CGI varies between well-done, and "1990s UsefulNotes/PlayStation game" quality depending on the episode. While the space scenes generally look pretty decent given the time and budget, the same cannot be said for surface scenes, and the computer-generated elements do not always mesh well with the physical elements. The varying quality is more obvious during the earlier seasons.

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** The CGI varies between well-done, and "1990s UsefulNotes/PlayStation game" quality depending on the episode. While the space scenes generally look pretty decent given the time and budget, the same cannot be said for surface scenes, and the computer-generated elements do not always mesh well with the physical elements. The varying quality is more obvious during the earlier seasons.seasons.

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** Future ''Series/RookieBlue'' star Missy Peregrym plays an agent of the Spirit of the Abyss sent to retrieve the Voice of Darkness in the episode "Time Out of Mind."

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** Future ''Series/RookieBlue'' star Missy Peregrym Creator/MissyPeregrym plays an agent of the Spirit of the Abyss sent to retrieve the Voice of Darkness in the episode "Time Out of Mind."

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* GoodBadTranslation: A certain DVD release suffers from this. The entirety of season 2 and some episodes of season 3 are the worst offenders by far. So what if the subtitles don't remember proper punctuation in season 1? And there are no capital letters, except the first in every line, even when not supposed to be there. The subtitles in season 2 are way worse than that, by being translated... from an Asian translation. And they're not even correct most of the time. One very horrible offender is in a scene, where Dylan says "Tyr, try not to destroy the warship." The subtitles say "Tyr. Get rid of the warship."

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* RetroactiveRecognition: A young Creator/CobieSmulders appears in the two-parter finale as Rhade's wife Jillian.

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A young Creator/CobieSmulders appears in the two-parter finale as Rhade's wife Jillian.Jillian.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Creator/KevinSorbo's role in this series as the lead can be a bit more uncomfortable to sit through these days given his increasingly [[TheFundamentalist vocal and often hostile statements on religion]].

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** Trance Gemini, while always lovable, is undeniably corny in her purple form; the new-Trance introduced in "Ouroboros" is significantly more complex and mature, and [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement in some viewer's eyes]], more fitting for the show.
** After three seasons of attempting to develop Tyr Anasazi while also looking for any excuse to bring Gaheris Rhade back with a flashback or alternate timeline, the writers finally threw up their hands and concluded that [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Rhade might offer more for writers and viewers, having a more tangible personality and a somewhat more enthusiastic actor]], so they wrote Tyr out and brought in Rhade's clone descendant.

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** Trance Gemini, while always lovable, is undeniably corny in her purple form; the new-Trance introduced in "Ouroboros" is significantly more complex and mature, and [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement in some viewer's eyes]], eyes, more fitting for the show.
** After three seasons of attempting to develop Tyr Anasazi while also looking for any excuse to bring Gaheris Rhade back with a flashback or alternate timeline, the writers finally threw up their hands and concluded that [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Rhade might offer more for writers and viewers, having a more tangible personality and a somewhat more enthusiastic actor]], actor, so they wrote Tyr out and brought in Rhade's clone descendant.



* FridgeHorror: If post-Ouroboros Trance is adult Trance, then does that make pre-Ouroboros underaged Trance?[[LessDisturbingInContext Much less squicky]] once it's established that she's [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld several billion years old]] [[GeniusLoci star]] using an [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith artificial humanoid body]] as a sockpuppet.

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* FridgeHorror: If post-Ouroboros Trance is adult Trance, then does that make pre-Ouroboros underaged Trance?[[LessDisturbingInContext Trance? [[LessDisturbingInContext Much less squicky]] once it's established that she's [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld several billion years old]] [[GeniusLoci star]] using an [[AFormYouAreComfortableWith artificial humanoid body]] as a sockpuppet.



* InformedAttribute: The Magog are treated as the most terrifying race in the universe. When they actually appear onscreen, they... don't quite live up to the hype. Not only are they very obviously [[SpecialEffectsFailure people lumbering awkwardly in animal suits]], but they get shot down as easily as Storm Troopers when a swarm is attacking a small group of heroes, and have some cringe-worthy dialogue like [[YouNoTakeCandle "Leader... not want food?"]] that seems more fitting for a show aimed at very young children than a sci-fi drama. It's probably not a coincidence that the Magog were replaced by other villains in later seasons, and when they did crop up, were rarely actually shown outside their attacking ships.
** On the other hand, they can actually become genuinely terrifying once you know what they're actually capable of, particularly with regards to their [[ChestBurster reproductive methods]]. Just goes to show that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

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* InformedAttribute: The Magog are treated as the most terrifying race in the universe. When they actually appear onscreen, they... don't quite live up to the hype. Not only are they very obviously [[SpecialEffectsFailure people lumbering awkwardly in animal suits]], but they get shot down as easily as Storm Troopers when a swarm is attacking a small group of heroes, and have some cringe-worthy dialogue like [[YouNoTakeCandle "Leader... not want food?"]] that seems more fitting for a show aimed at very young children than a sci-fi drama. It's probably not a coincidence that the Magog were replaced by other villains in later seasons, and when they did crop up, were rarely actually shown outside their attacking ships. \n** On the other hand, they can actually become genuinely terrifying once you know what they're actually capable of, particularly with regards to their [[ChestBurster reproductive methods]]. Just goes to show that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.



* RetroactiveRecognition: A young Creator/CobieSmulders appears in the finale as Rhade's wife Jillian.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: A young Creator/CobieSmulders appears in the two-parter finale as Rhade's wife Jillian.



* SpecialEffectsFailure: The Magog are meant to be the most terrifying race in the universe, but when shown onscreen... suspension of disbelief may take more than a bit of effort.

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* NightmareFuel: The Magog. Dear ''God'', the Magog. They manage to top the Borg and the Daleks as a terrifying villain race.

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* NightmareFuel: The Magog. Dear ''God'', the Magog.Magog, aside from their physical appearance. They manage to top the Borg and the Daleks as a terrifying villain race.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Pretty much ''any'' scene with Dylan being a badass takes on a very different tone upon rewatch in light of Kevin Sorbo's later descent into [[TheFundamentalist religious fundamentalism]].
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The Magog are meant to be the most terrifying race in the universe, but when shown onscreen... suspension of disbelief may take more than a bit of effort.

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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The Magog are meant to be the most terrifying race in the universe, but when shown onscreen... suspension of disbelief may take more than a bit of effort.effort.
** The CGI varies between well-done, and "1990s UsefulNotes/PlayStation game" quality depending on the episode. While the space scenes generally look pretty decent given the time and budget, the same cannot be said for surface scenes, and the computer-generated elements do not always mesh well with the physical elements. The varying quality is more obvious during the earlier seasons.
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* InformedAttribute: The Magog are treated as the most terrifying race in the universe. When they actually appear onscreen, they... don't quite live up to the hype. Not only are they very obviously [[SpecialEffectsFailure people lumbering awkwardly in animal suits]], but they get shot down as easily as Storm Troopers when a swarm is attacking a small group of heroes, and have some cringe-worthy dialogue like [[YouNoTakeCandle "Leader... not want food?"]] that seems more fitting for a show aimed at very young children than a sci-fi drama. It's probably not a conicodince that the Magog were replaced by other villains in later seasons, and when they did crop up, were rarely actually shown outside their attacking ships.

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* InformedAttribute: The Magog are treated as the most terrifying race in the universe. When they actually appear onscreen, they... don't quite live up to the hype. Not only are they very obviously [[SpecialEffectsFailure people lumbering awkwardly in animal suits]], but they get shot down as easily as Storm Troopers when a swarm is attacking a small group of heroes, and have some cringe-worthy dialogue like [[YouNoTakeCandle "Leader... not want food?"]] that seems more fitting for a show aimed at very young children than a sci-fi drama. It's probably not a conicodince coincidence that the Magog were replaced by other villains in later seasons, and when they did crop up, were rarely actually shown outside their attacking ships.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Pretty much ''any'' scene with Dylan being a badass takes on a very different tone upon rewatch in light of Kevin Sorbo's later descent into [[TheFundamentalist religious fundamentalism]].
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** On the other hand, they can actually become genuinely terrifying once you know what they're actually capable of, up to and including their [[ChestBurster reproductive methods]]. Just goes to show that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

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** On the other hand, they can actually become genuinely terrifying once you know what they're actually capable of, up particularly with regards to and including their [[ChestBurster reproductive methods]]. Just goes to show that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.
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**On the other hand, they can actually become genuinely terrifying once you know what they're actually capable of, up to and including their [[ChestBurster reproductive methods]]. Just goes to show that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

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