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About ethics from different cultures/periods, not just warped ethics.


* ValuesDissonance: Kim gets called out over every morally questionable action from the series from Wade microchipping Ron, not helping him train with MMP [[FridgeLogic even though he showed no signs of retaining it or desire to learn how to use it]], or even just not being 100% supportive of him 24/7. Meanwhile, Grimm blackmails people, steals materials from laboratories and even military bases, and even unleashes [[RonTheDeathEater Zorpox the Conqueror]] [[DisproportionateRetribution on the entire world]] just to get back at Kim for beating him once. But he provides [[SarcasmMode valuable information on these villains and reveals 'holes' in military security by breaching it, so obviously it's okay, right?]]
** But, to be fair to his team, they do call Grimm out when he starts showing the bastard side of ManipulativeBastard, such as Jade calling him out on expecting Kim to be fine with working with him after he throws a lawyer at her and tricks her into beating him up in anger, or Rhonda doing an OptOut when Grimm wants to make [[spoiler: Kim and Ron's breakup at the end of "''A Friend in Darkness''"]] permanent.
** The chapter where Monique's male counterpart defends Grimm by stating that he as a illegal immigrant is in no position to judge Grimm and his criminal activities did not go well for some readers. A already controversial topic, the fact remains that his family's motivation for breaking the law is due to unfortunate circumstances while Grimm activities involve blackmail, Unleashing a dangerous super villain out of spite, collateral damage and getting free of any serious consequences all thanks to a system that depends heavily on the villains not succeeding with the stolen equipment Grimm provides (As stated above) essentially costing money on military breaches that never get fix and villains that keep breaking out of jail. And Grimm often steals from facilities that would in no way know this or be in the same program or insured of their losses. Made even worse by the fact that no real answer or plan is ever given if Grimm's activities do result in a serious threat, instead the answer given to Kim is a flimsy "Well just how many have actually succeeded in their plans" response by Grimm's military father who bails him out every time. Overall Grimm's friend defense could had been made without bringing up a hot button issue that has gotten more controversial in recent years and coming across as insulting compare to the characters own misdeeds that he often enjoys.
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* HilariousInHindsight: A villain swapping the good and evil tendencies of everyone on the planet? And the hero gets help from their enemies? BobBoyle obviously [[WesternAnimation/YinYangYo thinks like the author]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: A villain swapping the good and evil tendencies of everyone on the planet? And the hero gets help from their enemies? BobBoyle Bob Boyle obviously [[WesternAnimation/YinYangYo thinks like the author]].



** The chapter where Monique's male counterpart defends Grimm by stating that he as a illegal immigrant is in no position to judge Grimm and his criminal activities did not go well for some readers. A already controversial topic, the fact remains that his family's motivation for breaking the law is due to unfortunate circumstances while Grimm activities involve blackmail, Unleashing a dangerous super villain out of spite, collateral damage and getting free of any serious consequences all thanks to a system that depends heavily on the villains not succeeding with the stolen equipment Grimm provides (As stated above) essentially costing money on military breaches that never get fix and villains that keep breaking out of jail. And Grimm often steals from facilities that would in no way know this or be in the same program or insured of their losses. Made even worse by the fact that no real answer or plan is ever given if Grimm's activities do result in a serious threat, instead the answer given to Kim is a flimsy "Well just how many have actually succeeded in their plans" response by Grimm's military father who bails him out every time. Overall Grimm's friend defense could had been made without bringing up a hot button issue that has gotten more controversial in recent years and coming across as insulting compare to the characters own misdeeds that he often enjoys.

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** The chapter where Monique's male counterpart defends Grimm by stating that he as a illegal immigrant is in no position to judge Grimm and his criminal activities did not go well for some readers. A already controversial topic, the fact remains that his family's motivation for breaking the law is due to unfortunate circumstances while Grimm activities involve blackmail, Unleashing a dangerous super villain out of spite, collateral damage and getting free of any serious consequences all thanks to a system that depends heavily on the villains not succeeding with the stolen equipment Grimm provides (As stated above) essentially costing money on military breaches that never get fix and villains that keep breaking out of jail. And Grimm often steals from facilities that would in no way know this or be in the same program or insured of their losses. Made even worse by the fact that no real answer or plan is ever given if Grimm's activities do result in a serious threat, instead the answer given to Kim is a flimsy "Well just how many have actually succeeded in their plans" response by Grimm's military father who bails him out every time. Overall Grimm's friend defense could had been made without bringing up a hot button issue that has gotten more controversial in recent years and coming across as insulting compare to the characters own misdeeds that he often enjoys.enjoys.
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* FandomNod: As a ShoutOut to the popular idea that Wade has a crush on Kim's cousin Joss [[spoiler:Jade develops one on Grimm's cousin ''Josh'']].
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** The chapter where Monique's male counterpart defends Grimm by stating that he as a illegal immigrant is in no position to judge Grimm and his criminal activities did not go well for some readers. A already controversial topic, the fact remains that his family's motivation for breaking the law is to seek a better life while Grimm activities involve blackmail, Unleashing a dangerous super villain out of spite, collateral damage and getting free of any serious consequences all thanks to a system that depends heavily on the villains not succeeding with the stolen equipment Grimm provides (As stated above) essentially costing money on military breaches that never get fix and villains that keep breaking out of jail. And Grimm often steals from facilities that would in no way know this or be in the same program or insured of their losses. Made even worse by the fact that no real answer or plan is ever given if Grimm's activities do result in a serious threat, instead the answer given to Kim is a flimsy "Well just how many have actually succeeded in their plans" response by Grimm's military father who bails him out every time. Overall Grimm's friend defense could had been made without bringing up a hot button issue that has gotten more controversial in recent years and coming across as insulting compare to the characters own misdeeds that he often enjoys.

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** The chapter where Monique's male counterpart defends Grimm by stating that he as a illegal immigrant is in no position to judge Grimm and his criminal activities did not go well for some readers. A already controversial topic, the fact remains that his family's motivation for breaking the law is due to seek a better life unfortunate circumstances while Grimm activities involve blackmail, Unleashing a dangerous super villain out of spite, collateral damage and getting free of any serious consequences all thanks to a system that depends heavily on the villains not succeeding with the stolen equipment Grimm provides (As stated above) essentially costing money on military breaches that never get fix and villains that keep breaking out of jail. And Grimm often steals from facilities that would in no way know this or be in the same program or insured of their losses. Made even worse by the fact that no real answer or plan is ever given if Grimm's activities do result in a serious threat, instead the answer given to Kim is a flimsy "Well just how many have actually succeeded in their plans" response by Grimm's military father who bails him out every time. Overall Grimm's friend defense could had been made without bringing up a hot button issue that has gotten more controversial in recent years and coming across as insulting compare to the characters own misdeeds that he often enjoys.
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** The chapter where Monique's male counterpart defends Grimm by stating that he as a illegal immigrant is in no position to judge Grimm and his criminal activities did not go well for some readers. A already controversial topic, the fact remains that his family's motivation for breaking the law is to seek a better life while Grimm activities involve blackmail, Unleashing a dangerous super villain out of spite, collateral damage and getting free of any serious consequences all thanks to a system that depends heavily on the villains not succeeding with the stolen equipment Grimm provides (As stated above) essentially costing money on military breaches that never get fix and villains that get breaking out of jail. And Grimm often steals from facilities that would in no way know this or be in the same program or insured of their losses. Made even worse by the fact that no real answer or plan is ever given if Grimm's activities do result in a serious threat, instead the answer given to Kim is a flimsy "Well just how many have actually succeeded in their plans" response by Grimm's military father who bails him out every time. Overall Grimm's friend defense could had been made without bringing up a hot button issue that has gotten more controversial in recent years and coming across as insulting compare to the characters own misdeeds that he often enjoys.

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** The chapter where Monique's male counterpart defends Grimm by stating that he as a illegal immigrant is in no position to judge Grimm and his criminal activities did not go well for some readers. A already controversial topic, the fact remains that his family's motivation for breaking the law is to seek a better life while Grimm activities involve blackmail, Unleashing a dangerous super villain out of spite, collateral damage and getting free of any serious consequences all thanks to a system that depends heavily on the villains not succeeding with the stolen equipment Grimm provides (As stated above) essentially costing money on military breaches that never get fix and villains that get keep breaking out of jail. And Grimm often steals from facilities that would in no way know this or be in the same program or insured of their losses. Made even worse by the fact that no real answer or plan is ever given if Grimm's activities do result in a serious threat, instead the answer given to Kim is a flimsy "Well just how many have actually succeeded in their plans" response by Grimm's military father who bails him out every time. Overall Grimm's friend defense could had been made without bringing up a hot button issue that has gotten more controversial in recent years and coming across as insulting compare to the characters own misdeeds that he often enjoys.
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** The chapter where Monique's male counterpart defends Grimm by stating that he as a illegal immigrant is in no position to judge Grimm and his criminal activities did not go well for some readers. A already controversial topic, the fact remains that his family's motivation for breaking the law is to seek a better life while Grimm activities involve blackmail, Unleashing a dangerous super villain out of spite, collateral damage and getting free of any serious consequences all thanks to a system that depends heavily on the villains not succeeding with the stolen equipment Grimm provides (As stated above) essentially costing money on military breaches that never get fix. And Grimm often steals from facilities that would in no way know this or be in the same program or insured of their losses. Made even worse by the fact that no real answer is ever given if Grimm's activities do result in a serious threat, instead the answer given to Kim is a flimsy "Well just how many have actually succeeded in their plans" response by Grimm's military father who bails him out every time. Grimm's jerkass behavior doesn't do him any favors either. Overall Grimm's friend defense could had been made without bringing up a hot button issue that has gotten more controversial in recent years and coming across as insulting compare to the characters own misdeeds that he often enjoys.

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** The chapter where Monique's male counterpart defends Grimm by stating that he as a illegal immigrant is in no position to judge Grimm and his criminal activities did not go well for some readers. A already controversial topic, the fact remains that his family's motivation for breaking the law is to seek a better life while Grimm activities involve blackmail, Unleashing a dangerous super villain out of spite, collateral damage and getting free of any serious consequences all thanks to a system that depends heavily on the villains not succeeding with the stolen equipment Grimm provides (As stated above) essentially costing money on military breaches that never get fix.fix and villains that get breaking out of jail. And Grimm often steals from facilities that would in no way know this or be in the same program or insured of their losses. Made even worse by the fact that no real answer or plan is ever given if Grimm's activities do result in a serious threat, instead the answer given to Kim is a flimsy "Well just how many have actually succeeded in their plans" response by Grimm's military father who bails him out every time. Grimm's jerkass behavior doesn't do him any favors either.time. Overall Grimm's friend defense could had been made without bringing up a hot button issue that has gotten more controversial in recent years and coming across as insulting compare to the characters own misdeeds that he often enjoys.
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** The chapter where Monique's male counterpart defends Grimm by stating that he as a illegal immigrant is in no position to judge Grimm and his criminal activities did not go well for some readers. A already controversial topic, the fact remains that his family's motivation for breaking the law is to seek a better life while Grimm activities involve blackmail, collate damage and getting free of any serious consequences all thanks to a system that depends heavily on the villains not succeeding with the stolen equipment Grimm provides (As stated above) essentially costing money on military breaches that never get fix. And Grimm often steals from facilities that would in no way know this. Made even worse by the fact that no real answer is ever given if Grimm's activities do result in a serious threat, instead the answer given to Kim is a flimsy "Well just how many have actually succeeded in their plans" response by Grimm's military father who bails him out every time. Grimm's jerkass behavior doesn't do him any favors either. Overall Grimm's friend defense could had been made without bringing up a hot button issue that has gotten bigger in recent times and coming across as insulting compare to the characters own misdeeds.

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** The chapter where Monique's male counterpart defends Grimm by stating that he as a illegal immigrant is in no position to judge Grimm and his criminal activities did not go well for some readers. A already controversial topic, the fact remains that his family's motivation for breaking the law is to seek a better life while Grimm activities involve blackmail, collate Unleashing a dangerous super villain out of spite, collateral damage and getting free of any serious consequences all thanks to a system that depends heavily on the villains not succeeding with the stolen equipment Grimm provides (As stated above) essentially costing money on military breaches that never get fix. And Grimm often steals from facilities that would in no way know this.this or be in the same program or insured of their losses. Made even worse by the fact that no real answer is ever given if Grimm's activities do result in a serious threat, instead the answer given to Kim is a flimsy "Well just how many have actually succeeded in their plans" response by Grimm's military father who bails him out every time. Grimm's jerkass behavior doesn't do him any favors either. Overall Grimm's friend defense could had been made without bringing up a hot button issue that has gotten bigger more controversial in recent times years and coming across as insulting compare to the characters own misdeeds.misdeeds that he often enjoys.
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* JustForGodzilla: There's a good chunk of readers who would not be reading a story about a unbearable manipulative jerkass male Kim counterpart if it wasn't for his very attractive and endearing sidekick Rhonda Fatigable. Helps that her male version was also very well liked.

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* JustForGodzilla: JustHereForGodzilla: There's a good chunk of readers who would not be reading a story about a unbearable manipulative jerkass male Kim counterpart if it wasn't for his very attractive and endearing sidekick Rhonda Fatigable. Helps that her male version was also very well liked.
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* JustForGodzilla: There's a good chunk of readers who would not be reading a story about a unbearable manipulative jerkass male Kim counterpart if it wasn't for his very attractive and endearing sidekick Rhonda Fatigable. Helps that her male version was also very well liked.
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** But, to be fair to his team, they do call Grimm out when he starts showing the bastard side of ManipulativeBastard, such as Jade calling him out on expecting Kim to be fine with working with him after he throws a lawyer at her and tricks her into beating him up in anger, or Rhonda doing an OptOut when Grimm wants to make [[spoiler: Kim and Ron's breakup at the end of "''A Friend in Darkness''"]] permanent.

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** But, to be fair to his team, they do call Grimm out when he starts showing the bastard side of ManipulativeBastard, such as Jade calling him out on expecting Kim to be fine with working with him after he throws a lawyer at her and tricks her into beating him up in anger, or Rhonda doing an OptOut when Grimm wants to make [[spoiler: Kim and Ron's breakup at the end of "''A Friend in Darkness''"]] permanent.permanent.
** The chapter where Monique's male counterpart defends Grimm by stating that he as a illegal immigrant is in no position to judge Grimm and his criminal activities did not go well for some readers. A already controversial topic, the fact remains that his family's motivation for breaking the law is to seek a better life while Grimm activities involve blackmail, collate damage and getting free of any serious consequences all thanks to a system that depends heavily on the villains not succeeding with the stolen equipment Grimm provides (As stated above) essentially costing money on military breaches that never get fix. And Grimm often steals from facilities that would in no way know this. Made even worse by the fact that no real answer is ever given if Grimm's activities do result in a serious threat, instead the answer given to Kim is a flimsy "Well just how many have actually succeeded in their plans" response by Grimm's military father who bails him out every time. Grimm's jerkass behavior doesn't do him any favors either. Overall Grimm's friend defense could had been made without bringing up a hot button issue that has gotten bigger in recent times and coming across as insulting compare to the characters own misdeeds.
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* FandomNod: As a ShoutOut to the popular idea that Wade has a crush on Kim's cousin Joss [[spoiler:Jade develops one on Grimm's cousin ''Josh'']].
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** It also applies to the episode "Stop Team Go!"

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* HilariousInHindsight: A villain swapping the good and evil tendencies of everyone on the planet? And the hero gets help from their enemies? BobBoyle obviously thinks like the author]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: A villain swapping the good and evil tendencies of everyone on the planet? And the hero gets help from their enemies? BobBoyle obviously [[WesternAnimation/YinYangYo thinks like the author]].
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Grimm got himself into a bad situation when he gave into his impulses.


* MarySue: A problem some have with Team Probable, usually when Team Possible is in the mix. Particularly given Grimm's habit of highlighting Kim's weaknesses and flaws, but never having his own brought up, exploited, or called on for more than a passing reference. This only gets worse because Team Probable tends to hold their own with Team Possible, but are also untouchable thanks to a mix of Grimm's parents, living in Riddleton, and Jade constantly erasing footage of their illegal actions.

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* MarySue: A problem some have with Team Probable, usually when Team Possible is in the mix. Particularly given Grimm's habit of highlighting Kim's weaknesses and flaws, but never having his own brought up, exploited, or called on for more than a passing reference. This only gets worse because Team Probable tends to hold their own with Team Possible, but are also untouchable thanks to a mix of Grimm's parents, living in Riddleton, and Jade constantly erasing footage of their illegal actions.
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* NightmareFuel: Golems. Made from living people turned to stone. [[CompleteMonster Monkey Fist and Maze got their shock troops, alright.]]

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* MarySue: A problem some have with Team Probable, usually when Team Possible is in the mix. Particularly given Grimm's habit of highlighting Kim's weaknesses, but never having his own brought up. This only gets worse because Team Probable tends to hold their own with Team Possible, but are also untouchable thanks to a mix of Grimm's parents and Jade constantly erasing footage of their illegal actions.
* ValuesDissonance: Kim gets ripped over every morally questionable action from the series from chipping Ron to not being 100% supportive of him 24/7. Meanwhile, Grimm blackmails, helps supervillains get access to the minerals needed to build [[PowerArmor battle suits]] like those Kim and Grimm wear, and generally being a HiredGun to every villain on the street from [[HarmlessVillain Drakken and Aviarius]] to Maze.

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* MarySue: A problem some have with Team Probable, usually when Team Possible is in the mix. Particularly given Grimm's habit of highlighting Kim's weaknesses, weaknesses and flaws, but never having his own brought up. up, exploited, or called on for more than a passing reference. This only gets worse because Team Probable tends to hold their own with Team Possible, but are also untouchable thanks to a mix of Grimm's parents parents, living in Riddleton, and Jade constantly erasing footage of their illegal actions.
* NightmareFuel: Golems. Made from living people turned to stone. [[CompleteMonster Monkey Fist and Maze got their shock troops, alright.]]
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ValuesDissonance: Kim gets ripped called out over every morally questionable action from the series from chipping Ron Wade microchipping Ron, not helping him train with MMP [[FridgeLogic even though he showed no signs of retaining it or desire to learn how to use it]], or even just not being 100% supportive of him 24/7. Meanwhile, Grimm blackmails, helps supervillains get access to blackmails people, steals materials from laboratories and even military bases, and even unleashes [[RonTheDeathEater Zorpox the minerals needed to build [[PowerArmor battle suits]] like those Kim and Grimm wear, and generally being a HiredGun to every villain Conqueror]] [[DisproportionateRetribution on the street from [[HarmlessVillain Drakken entire world]] just to get back at Kim for beating him once. But he provides [[SarcasmMode valuable information on these villains and Aviarius]] to Maze.reveals 'holes' in military security by breaching it, so obviously it's okay, right?]]
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* MarySue: A problem some have with Team Probable, usually when Team Possible is in the mix. Particularly given Grimm's habit of highlighting Kim's weaknesses, but never having his own brought up. This only gets worse because Team Probable tends to hold their own with Team Possible, but are also untouchable thanks to a mix of Grimm's parents and Jade constantly erasing footage of their illegal actions.
* ValuesDissonance: Kim gets ripped over every morally questionable action from the series from chipping Ron to not being 100% supportive of him 24/7. Meanwhile, Grimm blackmails, helps supervillains get access to the minerals needed to build [[PowerArmor battle suits]] like those Kim and Grimm wear, and generally being a HiredGun to every villain on the street from [[HarmlessVillain Drakken and Aviarius]] to Maze.
** But, to be fair to his team, they do call Grimm out when he starts showing the bastard side of ManipulativeBastard, such as Jade calling him out on expecting Kim to be fine with working with him after he throws a lawyer at her and tricks her into beating him up in anger, or Rhonda doing an OptOut when Grimm wants to make [[spoiler: Kim and Ron's breakup at the end of "''A Friend in Darkness''"]] permanent.

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