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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The film changes Solaris' fate from [[spoiler: being captured and reprogrammed to being ''executed'' by Superman.]] It also changes the pacing of the prison riot so that Clark fails to save some convicts from the Parasite. The adaptation also cuts two of the comic's most affecting moments; where Superman [[spoiler: gets to say a final goodbye to his father]], and the famous scene with the attempted suicide.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The film changes Solaris' fate from [[spoiler: being captured and reprogrammed to being ''executed'' by Superman.]] Superman,]] replacing [[PreMortemOneLiner one of Superman's most memorable lines]] in the process. It also changes the pacing of the prison riot so that Clark fails to save some convicts from the Parasite. The adaptation also cuts two of the comic's most affecting moments; where Superman [[spoiler: gets to say a final goodbye to his father]], and the famous scene with the attempted suicide.
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** The [[http://www.dccomics.com/sites/default/files/GalleryGraphicNovels_1900x900_AllStarSuperman_52af9dd1ba02e7.99277890.jpg image]] of Superman flying under the sun.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: An EpilepticTree-ish one about Leo Quintum has become an almost essential part of the story's mythos on the internet after being pitched in [[http://mountainofjudgment.blogspot.com/2008/09/all-star-superman-xs-and-os.html an article]] by Cole Moore Odell. ''If you've finished the story'', check it out.
** "[[http://techland.time.com/2010/11/02/the-secret-of-all-star-superman/2/ The Secret of All-Star Superman."]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: An AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
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EpilepticTree-ish one about Leo Quintum has become an almost essential part of the story's mythos on the internet after being pitched in [[http://mountainofjudgment.blogspot.com/2008/09/all-star-superman-xs-and-os.html an article]] by Cole Moore Odell. ''If you've finished the story'', check it out.
** *** "[[http://techland.time.com/2010/11/02/the-secret-of-all-star-superman/2/ The Secret of All-Star Superman."]]"]]
** Does Jimmy know that Clark is Superman? His lines after Superman blasts Luthor with the gravity gun can either be seen as him genuinely guessing where Clark Kent is, or he's just saying it so that Luthor doesn't realize the truth through his super-hearing.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Lois had Superman's powers for a day. We could have had a really great issue that showcased not only Lois using his powers effectively but an excellent super-powered team up involving the two.
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* MemeticMutation: Lex's SpitefulSpit at Superman right after the Man of Steel expressed his belief that he still had good in him led to people joking about how that spit was the last of said good.
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*CompleteMonster: [[RoboticPsychopath Solaris the Tyrant Sun]] is a gigantic computer that wanders the cosmos, consuming stars for fuel and leaving the inhabited planets to die. Contacted by ComicBook/LexLuthor to assist him in his master plan to defeat a dying Superman, Solatis turns the Sun red in an attempt to depower the Man of Steel. Supes counteracts this and leads an army of sapient robots to battle Solaris, but he destroys the army in one blast before announcing his plan to [[TheStarscream betray Luthor]], consume the Sun and force the Earthlings to [[AGodAmI worship him as a deity]] or freeze to death in eternal darkness. Superman then tries to feed the Tyrant Sun to a Sun-Eater, but Solaris destroys it. Before Superman destroys the mad machine, Solaris turns the Sun blue [[TakingYouWithMe to spite Superman by destroying his people]].

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** Franchise/{{Superman}}, upon learning that he's dying, merely proceeds to quietly put his affairs in order.

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** Franchise/{{Superman}}, upon learning that he's dying, merely proceeds to quietly put his affairs in order. Then again, there are quite a few hints he isn't taking it as well as he seems - his refusal to tell anybody about it, and his breakdown while under the effects of black kryptonite, for instance. He is, after all, an absolute pro at hiding his emotions.


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** The scene where Superman [[spoiler:cures cancer]] is up there, as well - particularly since it's an homage to one of the most notoriously silly Superman stories.
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** Superman, upon learning that he's dying, merely proceeds to quietly put his affairs in order.
** [[spoiler: The same applies to Lex concerning his imminent execution. Though in his case, it's very clear his escape was already planned.]]

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** Superman, Franchise/{{Superman}}, upon learning that he's dying, merely proceeds to quietly put his affairs in order.
** [[spoiler: The same applies to Lex Comicbook/LexLuthor concerning his imminent execution. Though in his case, it's very clear his escape was already planned.]]



* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[EvilIsSexy Nastalathia Luthor]], despite making only a few appearances.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[EvilIsSexy Nastalathia Luthor]], Nasthalthia Luthor, despite being a previously forgotten Bronze Age Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} villain and making only a few appearances.
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So Cool Its Awesome is a fanspeak term that doesn't get wicked from work or YMMV pages.


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** The DistilledAdaption origin retelling.

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** The DistilledAdaption [[AdaptationDistillation streamlined]] origin retelling.retelling as well.

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* SignatureScene: Superman saving the suicidal teen, a powerful moment often regarded as one of the greatest Superman moments of all time.

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* SignatureScene: SignatureScene:
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Superman saving the suicidal teen, a powerful moment often regarded as one of the greatest Superman moments of all time.time.
** The DistilledAdaption origin retelling.
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"They're" wasn't a typo here, reverting with alterations to make it clearer.


* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Quite a few scenes in the middle, particularly the one with Samson, come absolutely out of left field, have no relevance to the plot, and are never mentioned again. While comic readers know their whole stories from the comic, they are very poorly implemented into the movie.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Quite a few scenes in the middle, particularly the one with Samson, come absolutely out of left field, have no relevance to the plot, and are never mentioned again. While comic readers know their that these are whole stories from the comic, they are very poorly implemented into the movie.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Quite a few scenes in the middle, particularly the one with Samson, come absolutely out of left field, have no relevance to the plot, and are never mentioned again. While comic readers know they're whole stories from the comic, they are very poorly implemented into the movie.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Quite a few scenes in the middle, particularly the one with Samson, come absolutely out of left field, have no relevance to the plot, and are never mentioned again. While comic readers know they're their whole stories from the comic, they are very poorly implemented into the movie.
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* AwesomeMusic: Christopher Drake's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EphFQelYhp8 fanfare]] rivals John Williams' ''Film/{{Superman}}'' fanfare.
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* MagnumOpus: For Franchise/{{Superman}}, Creator/GrantMorrison, Frank Quitely and (see below) quite possibly for Creator/DwayneMcDuffie's work in animation too.



* MagnumOpus: Some fans even consider All-Star Superman to be [=McDuffie's=] Swan Song.

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** It's more ambiguous in the animated version, but it seems that Solaris was merely knocked out.

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** It's more ambiguous in the animated version, but it seems that Solaris was merely knocked out.
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No arguments on the page, and it doesn\'t change the scenes\' statuses as big lipped aligator moments.


** The entire Samson / Atlas sequence was all a part of Lois' adventures as a superbeing, part of which was to be wooed by other powerful men; she even states it explicitly.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The film changes Solaris' fate from [[spoiler: being captured and reprogrammed to being ''executed'' by Superman.]] It also changes the pacing of the prison riot so that Clark fails to save some convicts from the Parasite. The adaptation also cuts two of the comic's most affecting moments; where Superman [[spoiler: gets to say a final goodbye to his father]], and the famous scene with the attempted suicide.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The film changes Solaris' fate from [[spoiler: being captured and reprogrammed to being ''executed'' by Superman.]] It also changes the pacing of the prison riot so that Clark fails to save some convicts from the Parasite. The adaptation also cuts two of the comic's most affecting moments; where Superman [[spoiler: gets to say a final goodbye to his father]], and the famous scene with the attempted suicide.suicide.
** It's more ambiguous in the animated version, but it seems that Solaris was merely knocked out.
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** The entire Samson / Atlas sequence was all a part of Lois' adventures as a superbeing, part of which was to be wooed by other powerful men; she even states it explicitly.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Quite a few scenes in the middle, particularly the one with Samson, come absolutely out of left field, have no relevance to the plot, and are never mentioned again.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Quite a few scenes in the middle, particularly the one with Samson, come absolutely out of left field, have no relevance to the plot, and are never mentioned again. While comic readers know they're whole stories from the comic, they are very poorly implemented into the movie.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Quite a few scenes in the middle, particularly the one with Samson, come absolutely out of left field, have no relevance to the plot, and are never mentioned again.
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Not YMMV. Moving.


* RuleOfSymbolism: The whole series is 12 issues and in those issues Superman's story is following a sun's path throughout the sky. By the middle of the series he's entering his "winter" phase and we finally see Metropolis at night. In the end of episode 5, Lex's sidekick and niece rows a boat with Clark out of the prison where Lex is. It is heavily based on the Greek conception of the dead being sailed to the underworld on the river Styx by Death.
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** [[spoiler: The same applies to Lex concerning his imminent execution. Though in his case, it's possible his escape was already planned.]]

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** [[spoiler: The same applies to Lex concerning his imminent execution. Though in his case, it's possible very clear his escape was already planned.]]

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Transferred to own page.


* AngstWhatAngst: Superman, upon learning that he's dying, merely proceeds to quietly put his affairs in order.

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* AngstWhatAngst: AngstWhatAngst:
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Superman, upon learning that he's dying, merely proceeds to quietly put his affairs in order.



* FridgeBrilliance: [[spoiler: Silver Age Superman probably remembers his dealing with ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk, which is why he replies, "They surrender" to the question, "What happens when the UnstoppableForceMeetsImmovableObject." That's ''precisely what happened'' in that crossover.]]
* FridgeLogic: Something seems odd when Batman (the world's greatest detective) doesn't make a single appearance in this story. Not even for a cameo, or to comfort one of his closest friends (in most continuities at least) as he's dying.
** The series deliberately doesn't feature ''anyone'' from outside the Superman stories [[note]]Unless you count the Sun Eater[[/note]].
** The All Star Batman wouldn't exactly be described as friendly, though the two stories don't seems to be in the same continuity.

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* FridgeBrilliance: [[spoiler: Silver Age Superman probably remembers his dealing with ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk, which is why he replies, "They surrender" to the question, "What happens when the UnstoppableForceMeetsImmovableObject." That's ''precisely what happened'' in that crossover.]]
* FridgeLogic: Something seems odd when Batman (the world's greatest detective) doesn't make a single appearance in this story. Not even for a cameo, or to comfort one of his closest friends (in most continuities at least) as he's dying.
** The series deliberately doesn't feature ''anyone'' from outside the Superman stories [[note]]Unless you count the Sun Eater[[/note]].
** The All Star Batman wouldn't exactly be described as friendly, though the two stories don't seems to be in the same continuity.
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* MagnumOpus: For Franchise/{{Superman}}, CreatorGrantMorrison, Frank Quitely and (see below) quite possibly for Creator/DwayneMcDuffie's work in animation too.

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* MagnumOpus: For Franchise/{{Superman}}, CreatorGrantMorrison, Creator/GrantMorrison, Frank Quitely and (see below) quite possibly for Creator/DwayneMcDuffie's work in animation too.
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** The All Star Batman wouldn't exactly be described as friendly, though the two stories don't seems to be in the same continuity.

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* FridgeBrilliance: [[spoiler: Silver Age Superman probably remembers his dealing with TheIncredibleHulk, which is why he replies, "They surrender" to the question, "What happens when the UnstoppableForceMeetsImmovableObject." That's ''precisely what happened'' in that crossover.]]

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* FridgeBrilliance: [[spoiler: Silver Age Superman probably remembers his dealing with TheIncredibleHulk, ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk, which is why he replies, "They surrender" to the question, "What happens when the UnstoppableForceMeetsImmovableObject." That's ''precisely what happened'' in that crossover.]]



* MagnumOpus: For both {{ComicBook/Superman}}, GrantMorrison, Frank Quitely and (see below) quite possibly for Creator/DwayneMcDuffie's work in animation too.

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* MagnumOpus: For both {{ComicBook/Superman}}, GrantMorrison, Franchise/{{Superman}}, CreatorGrantMorrison, Frank Quitely and (see below) quite possibly for Creator/DwayneMcDuffie's work in animation too.



* AdaptationDecay: The film changes Solaris' fate from [[spoiler: being captured and reprogrammed to being ''executed'' by Superman.]] It also changes the pacing of the prison riot so that Clark fails to save some convicts from the Parasite. The adaptation also cuts two of the comic's most affecting moments; where Superman [[spoiler: gets to say a final goodbye to his father]], and the famous scene with the attempted suicide.
* AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EphFQelYhp8 Christopher Drake's score.]]



* MagnumOpus: Some fans even consider All-Star Superman to be [=McDuffie's=] Swan Song.

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* MagnumOpus: Some fans even consider All-Star Superman to be [=McDuffie's=] Swan Song.Song.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The film changes Solaris' fate from [[spoiler: being captured and reprogrammed to being ''executed'' by Superman.]] It also changes the pacing of the prison riot so that Clark fails to save some convicts from the Parasite. The adaptation also cuts two of the comic's most affecting moments; where Superman [[spoiler: gets to say a final goodbye to his father]], and the famous scene with the attempted suicide.
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* SignatureScene: Superman saving the suicidal teen, a powerful moment often regarded as one of the greatest Superman moments of all time.
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* WinBACKTheCrowd: In the sense that the story allowed Morrison to use some of the concepts from his aborted ''Superman 2000'' pitch and bring back his ''ComicBook/DCOneMillion'' continuity.

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* WinBACKTheCrowd: WinBackTheCrowd: In the sense that the story allowed Morrison to use some of the concepts from his aborted ''Superman 2000'' pitch and bring back his ''ComicBook/DCOneMillion'' continuity.

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