History YMMV / ASongOfIceAndFire

12th Jan '18 3:14:28 PM Chasem
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* EvilIsCool: A good deal of fans love Littlefinger, despite his role in making things worse.

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A good deal of fans love Littlefinger, despite his role in making things worse.worse.
** Lady Stoneheart is popular among fans, to the point of being one of the most fan-requested characters/arcs for ''Series/GameOfThrones''.
12th Jan '18 3:13:03 PM Chasem
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* NewbieBoom: While ''ASOIAF'' was always popular and acclaimed among dedicated fans of the HighFantasy genre, the ''Series/GameOfThrones'' TV adaptation brought in a legion of new fans, many of which were eager to find out the differences between the show and its source material. Even among non-watchers of ''[=GoT=]'', the newfound mainstream recognition of the franchise has given the books more readership and recognition.
12th Jan '18 3:05:53 PM Chasem
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* BrokenBase: The fanbase was actually a pretty contented one up until the publication of ''A Feast For Crows''. With ''A Dance With Dragons'' finally out, the new broken base seems to divide between fans who love it and consider it a return to form, and those who hate it and consider it AFFC 2.0. And then there are those who loved AFFC and don't consider the idea of AFFC 2.0 to be a bad thing. The split in the fanbase seems to be a result of the increased focus on world building in AFFC and ADWD. Westeros and Essos are presented in more detail than ever before, but parts of the fanbase consider this to have occurred at the expense of plot.

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The fanbase was actually a pretty contented one up until the publication of ''A Feast For Crows''. With ''A Dance With Dragons'' finally out, the new broken base seems to divide between fans who love it and consider it a return to form, and those who hate it and consider it AFFC 2.0. And then there are those who loved AFFC and don't consider the idea of AFFC 2.0 to be a bad thing. The split in the fanbase seems to be a result of the increased focus on world building in AFFC and ADWD. Westeros and Essos are presented in more detail than ever before, but parts of the fanbase consider this to have occurred at the expense of plot.plot.
** HBO's ''Series/GameOfThrones'' has also caused this with fans of the books, mostly due to its deviations from the source material (especially in later seasons). Some fans consider many of the TV characters and elements to be the definitive versions and use elements from it in their interpretation and visualization of ''ASOIAF'', while others deliberately distance their vision of ''ASOIAF'' from ''Game of Thrones'' and are happy enough to imagine the characters and settings purely as described on the page.
12th Jan '18 2:57:42 PM Chasem
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* CantUnhearIt: Thanks to the [[Series/GameOfThrones show]], it's hard to choose a character whose actor's voice is NOT the character's. Some of the standouts are Creator/PeterDinklage as Tyrion, Creator/EmiliaClarke as Daenerys, Creator/SeanBean as Ned, Creator/MaisieWilliams as Arya, Creator/CharlesDance as Tywin, and Creator/LenaHeadey as Cersei. Similarly, most people who got into the books through the show visualize the characters as their live-action incarnations, due to the fact that the books give way to many different (official) interpretations of their canon designs (''including'' the TV designs, which are used on the covers and slipcases of later printings), despite the book characters having some described traits that diverge from their TV incarnations. Some depictions of the ''ASOIAF'' canon characters post-2011 use elements of the show's designs, occasionally to the point of InkSuitActor.

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* CantUnhearIt: Thanks to the [[Series/GameOfThrones show]], it's hard to choose a character whose actor's voice is NOT the character's. Some of the standouts are Creator/PeterDinklage as Tyrion, Creator/EmiliaClarke as Daenerys, Creator/SeanBean as Ned, Creator/MaisieWilliams as Arya, Creator/CharlesDance as Tywin, and Creator/LenaHeadey as Cersei. Similarly, most people who got into the books through the show visualize the characters as their live-action incarnations, due to the fact that the books give way to many different (official) interpretations of their canon designs (''including'' the TV designs, which are used on the covers and slipcases of later printings), despite the book characters having some described traits that diverge from their TV incarnations. Some depictions of the ''ASOIAF'' canon characters post-2011 use elements of the show's designs, occasionally to the point of InkSuitActor.InkSuitActor, similar to [[Literature/HarryPotter other]] [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings book series]] that undergo a NewbieBoom via AdaptationDisplacement.
12th Jan '18 2:56:47 PM Chasem
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* CantUnhearIt: Thanks to the [[Series/GameOfThrones show]], it's hard to choose a character whose actor's voice is NOT the character's. Some of the standouts are Creator/PeterDinklage as Tyrion, Creator/EmiliaClarke as Daenerys, Creator/SeanBean as Ned, Creator/MaisieWilliams as Arya, Creator/CharlesDance as Tywin, and Creator/LenaHeadey as Cersei. Similarly, most people who got into the books through the show visualize the characters as their live-action incarnations, due to the fact that the books give way to many different (official) interpretations of their canon designs (''including'' the TV designs, which are used on the covers and slipcases of later printings), despite the book characters having some described traits that diverge from their TV incarnations.

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* CantUnhearIt: Thanks to the [[Series/GameOfThrones show]], it's hard to choose a character whose actor's voice is NOT the character's. Some of the standouts are Creator/PeterDinklage as Tyrion, Creator/EmiliaClarke as Daenerys, Creator/SeanBean as Ned, Creator/MaisieWilliams as Arya, Creator/CharlesDance as Tywin, and Creator/LenaHeadey as Cersei. Similarly, most people who got into the books through the show visualize the characters as their live-action incarnations, due to the fact that the books give way to many different (official) interpretations of their canon designs (''including'' the TV designs, which are used on the covers and slipcases of later printings), despite the book characters having some described traits that diverge from their TV incarnations. Some depictions of the ''ASOIAF'' canon characters post-2011 use elements of the show's designs, occasionally to the point of InkSuitActor.
29th Dec '17 2:49:37 PM CaptainCrawdad
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** Jon/Daenerys is also extremely popular, even though to date they have never met and Dany may not even know that Jon is alive. ([[spoiler:And also, of course, by the most common fan theories, Dany is Jon's ''aunt'', though given her [[IncestIsRelative family's marriage practices]] this may be more of an argument in favor of the pairing than one against.]]) The [[Series/GameOfThrones show]] turned all of these points into AscendedFanon within its continuity.

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** Jon/Daenerys is also extremely popular, even though to date they have never met and Dany may not even know that Jon is alive. ([[spoiler:And also, of course, by the most common fan theories, Dany is Jon's ''aunt'', though given her [[IncestIsRelative family's marriage practices]] this may be more of an argument in favor of the pairing than one against.]]) The [[Series/GameOfThrones show]] turned all of these points into AscendedFanon within its continuity.]])
27th Dec '17 8:38:33 PM Chasem
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** Jon/Daenerys is also extremely popular, even though to date they have never met and Dany may not even know that Jon is alive. ([[spoiler:And also, of course, by the most common fan theories, Dany is Jon's ''aunt'', though given her [[IncestIsRelative family's marriage practices]] this may be more of an argument in favor of the pairing than one against.]])

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** Jon/Daenerys is also extremely popular, even though to date they have never met and Dany may not even know that Jon is alive. ([[spoiler:And also, of course, by the most common fan theories, Dany is Jon's ''aunt'', though given her [[IncestIsRelative family's marriage practices]] this may be more of an argument in favor of the pairing than one against.]])]]) The [[Series/GameOfThrones show]] turned all of these points into AscendedFanon within its continuity.
27th Dec '17 8:25:10 PM Chasem
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* CantUnhearIt: Thanks to the [[Series/GameOfThrones show]], it's hard to choose a character whose actor's voice is NOT the character's. Some of the standouts are Creator/PeterDinklage as Tyrion, Creator/EmiliaClarke as Daenerys, Creator/SeanBean as Ned, Creator/MaisieWilliams as Arya, Creator/CharlesDance as Tywin, and Creator/LenaHeadey as Cersei. Similarly, most people who got into the books through the show visualize the characters as their live-action incarnations, due to the fact that the books give way to many different (official) interpretations of their canon designs, despite the book characters having some described traits that diverge from their TV incarnations.

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* CantUnhearIt: Thanks to the [[Series/GameOfThrones show]], it's hard to choose a character whose actor's voice is NOT the character's. Some of the standouts are Creator/PeterDinklage as Tyrion, Creator/EmiliaClarke as Daenerys, Creator/SeanBean as Ned, Creator/MaisieWilliams as Arya, Creator/CharlesDance as Tywin, and Creator/LenaHeadey as Cersei. Similarly, most people who got into the books through the show visualize the characters as their live-action incarnations, due to the fact that the books give way to many different (official) interpretations of their canon designs (''including'' the TV designs, which are used on the covers and slipcases of later printings), despite the book characters having some described traits that diverge from their TV incarnations.
18th Dec '17 10:27:03 AM Chasem
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* CantUnhearIt: Thanks to the [[Series/GameOfThrones show]], it's hard to choose a character whose actor's voice is NOT the character's. Some of the standouts are Creator/PeterDinklage as Tyrion, Creator/EmiliaClarke as Daenerys, Creator/SeanBean as Ned, Creator/MaisieWilliams as Arya, Creator/CharlesDance as Tywin, and Creator/LenaHeadey as Cersei.

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* CantUnhearIt: Thanks to the [[Series/GameOfThrones show]], it's hard to choose a character whose actor's voice is NOT the character's. Some of the standouts are Creator/PeterDinklage as Tyrion, Creator/EmiliaClarke as Daenerys, Creator/SeanBean as Ned, Creator/MaisieWilliams as Arya, Creator/CharlesDance as Tywin, and Creator/LenaHeadey as Cersei. Similarly, most people who got into the books through the show visualize the characters as their live-action incarnations, due to the fact that the books give way to many different (official) interpretations of their canon designs, despite the book characters having some described traits that diverge from their TV incarnations.
17th Dec '17 9:11:26 PM Chubzhac
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Jeyne Westerling. As a girl from the Westerlands marrying and falling in love with the young King in the North, she had a lot of potential characterization to be explored, but the book just drops her by the wayside following her introduction and lets [[spoiler:Robb die because of their marriage without developing their relationship]]. Later on, after the Red Wedding, it's explained that [[spoiler:her mother Sybelle Spicer was working with Tywin by using Jeyne as a pawn to instigate the Freys' betrayal of Robb.]] The most we get out of her is her saying "I ''loved'' him" and the books fail to show how much [[spoiler:being used as a destabilizing tool]] affected her.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Due to the huge number of characters, as well as its huge number of character deaths, it's likely every fan has at least a few character they wish could get more attention.
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Jeyne Westerling. As a girl from the Westerlands marrying and falling in love with the young King in the North, she had a lot of potential characterization to be explored, but the book just drops her by the wayside following her introduction and lets [[spoiler:Robb die because of their marriage without developing their relationship]]. Later on, after the Red Wedding, it's explained that [[spoiler:her mother Sybelle Spicer was working with Tywin by using Jeyne as a pawn to instigate the Freys' betrayal of Robb.]] The most we get out of her is her saying "I ''loved'' him" and the books fail to show how much [[spoiler:being used as a destabilizing tool]] affected her.
** Dontos Holland. As a child, he is the only survivor of the Defiance of Duskendale because Ser Barristan the Bold begged the Mad King to spare his life but he became a FailureKnight in his adulthood. His backstory alone interesting enough for him to be a major character. Instead, he's nothing but a greedy drunk who [[spoiler:gets killed by Littlefinger as soon as he helps him get Sansa out of King's Landing.]]
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