History WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids / VideoGames

14th Aug '16 5:00:54 PM shonengirl
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** The [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum Orre]] [[VideoGame/PokemonXDGaleOfDarkness games]] were one of the first instances where the games truly started exploring darker territory, albeit ''Colosseum'' more so than 'XD'' featuring, among other things, a gritty, bleak CrapsackWorld of a region and a deadly practical, vile, ruthless evil team that would give [[spoiler:Ghethis]] a run for his money. It shows that ''Colosseum'''s protagonist, Wes, being 17, which was practically ancient by Pokemon protagonist standards back then, and even now is still quite old.

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** The [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum Orre]] [[VideoGame/PokemonXDGaleOfDarkness games]] were one of the first instances where the games truly started exploring darker territory, albeit ''Colosseum'' more so than 'XD'' ''XD'' featuring, among other things, a gritty, bleak CrapsackWorld of a region and a deadly practical, vile, ruthless evil team that would give [[spoiler:Ghethis]] a run for his money. It shows that ''Colosseum'''s protagonist, Wes, being 17, which was practically ancient by Pokemon protagonist standards back then, and even now is still quite old.
14th Aug '16 4:59:58 PM shonengirl
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** The plots of the games can run rather dark and complicated for games meant to be appropriate for kids, and some hidden mechanics- [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Effort_values effort values]] [[note]]Starting ''Pokémon X and Y'', effort values are now seen in a Pokémon in Super Training.[[/note]]and [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Individual_values individual values]], for starters- are rather complex and draw a large PeripheryDemographic to the Pokémon competitive scene. Of course, this is rather mitigated by the fact that the player can easily [[PlayTheGameSkipTheStory ignore the story and hidden mechanics in favor of making the monsters battle each other]] for the most part.

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** The plots of some of the games can run rather dark and complicated for games meant to be appropriate for kids, and some hidden mechanics- [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Effort_values effort values]] [[note]]Starting ''Pokémon X and Y'', effort values are now seen in a Pokémon in Super Training.[[/note]]and [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Individual_values individual values]], for starters- are rather complex and draw a large PeripheryDemographic to the Pokémon competitive scene. Of course, this is rather mitigated by the fact that the player can easily [[PlayTheGameSkipTheStory ignore the story and hidden mechanics in favor of making the monsters battle each other]] for the most part.part.
** One of the first notable instances of this in the main games is ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', as well as its sequel ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2''; while not too dark for children per se, they featured many moral questions, a grieving, disillusioned champion, and a little girl literally killed in her sleep by nightmares, as well as [[spoiler:the implied mental abuse and brainwashing of a young man, manipulated all his life and kept in an emotionally immature state (with a creepy theme and childlike "playroom" to show it, itself accompanied by creepy music) by the BigBad Ghethis, with said BigBad being quite possibly the most vile villain the main series has ever seen.]]


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** The [[VideoGame/PokemonColosseum Orre]] [[VideoGame/PokemonXDGaleOfDarkness games]] were one of the first instances where the games truly started exploring darker territory, albeit ''Colosseum'' more so than 'XD'' featuring, among other things, a gritty, bleak CrapsackWorld of a region and a deadly practical, vile, ruthless evil team that would give [[spoiler:Ghethis]] a run for his money. It shows that ''Colosseum'''s protagonist, Wes, being 17, which was practically ancient by Pokemon protagonist standards back then, and even now is still quite old.
23rd Jul '16 9:18:18 AM mario0987
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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' is the tale of a group of heroes who journey through worlds based on Disney movies fighting cartoony monsters with ThePowerOfFriendship at it's heart. Totally kid friendly, right? Well, the plot is actually quite complex to the point of KudzuPlot, there is a lot of violence and some complex themes. Additionally, two games (''358 / 2 Days'' and ''Birth By Sleep'') involve the complete destruction of the friendship between it's protagonists and both have a DownerEnding. In ''Days'', [[spoiler: [[KilledOffForReal one protagonist dies]]]] while ''Birth By Sleep'' [[gives the protagonists a FateWorseThanDeath]]. The secret ending of ''Birth By Sleep'' makes them more bittersweet but even then it is unexpected for a series featuring Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and Goofy.

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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' is the tale of a group of heroes who journey through worlds based on Disney movies fighting cartoony monsters with ThePowerOfFriendship at it's heart. Totally kid friendly, right? Well, the plot is actually quite complex to the point of KudzuPlot, there is a lot of violence and some complex themes. Additionally, two games (''358 / 2 Days'' and ''Birth By Sleep'') involve the complete destruction of the friendship between it's protagonists and both have a DownerEnding. In ''Days'', [[spoiler: [[KilledOffForReal one protagonist dies]]]] while ''Birth By Sleep'' [[gives [[spoiler: gives the protagonists a FateWorseThanDeath]]. The secret ending of ''Birth By Sleep'' makes them more bittersweet but even then it is unexpected for a series featuring Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and Goofy.
23rd Jul '16 9:17:22 AM mario0987
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* ''VideoGame/SuperPaperMario'' is much like it's predecessor. The story involves stopping the destruction of reality, one villain who is a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds and another who is the Mario equivalent of The Joker from Batman. There are also a surprising number of [[DisneyDeath Disney Deaths]]


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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' is the tale of a group of heroes who journey through worlds based on Disney movies fighting cartoony monsters with ThePowerOfFriendship at it's heart. Totally kid friendly, right? Well, the plot is actually quite complex to the point of KudzuPlot, there is a lot of violence and some complex themes. Additionally, two games (''358 / 2 Days'' and ''Birth By Sleep'') involve the complete destruction of the friendship between it's protagonists and both have a DownerEnding. In ''Days'', [[spoiler: [[KilledOffForReal one protagonist dies]]]] while ''Birth By Sleep'' [[gives the protagonists a FateWorseThanDeath]]. The secret ending of ''Birth By Sleep'' makes them more bittersweet but even then it is unexpected for a series featuring Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and Goofy.
20th Jul '16 7:05:53 AM 1Thunderfire
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** It's practically a RunningGag for the ''Kirby'' series that it will feature pretty dark elements and SurpriseCreepy moments with the latest game, ''VideoGame/KirbyPlanetRobobot'', probably being one of the darkest in the entire franchise, only to still be rated E for Everyone!
16th Jun '16 5:02:16 AM WhatArtThee
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** The Sea Mauville scenario in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, which also develops Professor Cozmo and Gym Leader Wattson, adds a large helping of material normally not used in kid's shows. It includes a SenpaiKouhai schoolgirl couple locking themselves into a side room for a private moment, finding abandoned documents narrating the rise and fall of the Mauville MegaCorp, an account of an employee's failing marriage from the perspective of a child, books about dealing with unemployment, debtors losing their Lopunnite Mega Stones to their debt collectors as collateral, and perhaps darkest of all, [[spoiler:''the harvesting of the life-energy of Pokémon as fuel'']], which is also implied to have [[spoiler:led Wattson to forcibly tank ''all of New Mauville'']]. Among such grown-up themes, it's clear that the writers were expanding on the maturation of Pokemon narrative content as seen in X & Y.

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** The Sea Mauville scenario in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, which also develops Professor Cozmo and Gym Leader Wattson, adds a large helping of material normally not used in kid's shows. It includes a SenpaiKouhai schoolgirl couple locking themselves into a side room for a private moment, finding abandoned documents narrating the rise and fall of the Mauville MegaCorp, an account of an employee's failing marriage from the perspective of a child, books about dealing with unemployment, debtors losing their Lopunnite Mega Stones to their debt collectors as collateral, and perhaps darkest of all, [[spoiler:''the harvesting of the life-energy of Pokémon as fuel'']], which is also implied to have [[spoiler:led Wattson to forcibly tank ''all of New Mauville'']]. Among such grown-up themes, it's clear that the writers were expanding on the maturation of Pokemon narrative content as seen in X & Y.
16th Jun '16 4:59:18 AM WhatArtThee
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* ''Franchise/RatchetAndClank'': The first four ''Ratchet & Clank'' games are rated T.[[note]]Although they would later be rerated E10+ when they were remade in HD.[[/note]] After the E10+ rating was invented, subsequent games were labeled as such despite increasing rates of violence and innuendo. Even Insomniac states that the games aren't meant for kids; they say their audience is 18-34 year olds.
22nd May '16 5:12:39 PM MyFinalEdits
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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' is intended to be family friendly, and it is, for the most part. However, should you decide to play through a [[KillEmAll Genocide route]], the game reacts by turning into a grim, depressing slog, arguably darker than some horror games, as you cut a bloody (or dusty, rather) swath across the underground, killing tons of lovable characters along the way--and unambiguously murdering a few! Unlike most of the rest of the game, ''none'' of it is played for laughs at all.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' is intended to be family friendly, and it is, for the most part. However, should you decide to play through a [[KillEmAll Genocide route]], the game reacts by turning into a grim, depressing slog, arguably darker than some horror games, as you cut a bloody (or dusty, rather) swath across the underground, killing tons of lovable characters along the way--and unambiguously murdering a few! Unlike most of the rest of the game, ''none'' of it is played for laughs at all.
22nd May '16 2:18:43 PM Midna
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** In ''SonicTheHedgehog2006'', the main villain wants to destroy all of time and space, and Sonic ''gets murdered'' at the end of the game. (He gets better)

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** In ''SonicTheHedgehog2006'', the main villain wants to destroy all of time and space, and Sonic ''gets murdered'' at the end of the game. (He gets better)better.)


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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' is intended to be family friendly, and it is, for the most part. However, should you decide to play through a [[KillEmAll Genocide route]], the game reacts by turning into a grim, depressing slog, arguably darker than some horror games, as you cut a bloody (or dusty, rather) swath across the underground, killing tons of lovable characters along the way--and unambiguously murdering a few! Unlike most of the rest of the game, ''none'' of it is played for laughs at all.
3rd May '16 6:17:38 AM MegaMarioMan
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** The DS sequel has [[SuddenDownerEnding the infamous ending]], a woman nearly ''committing suicide'' so her son could be Mayor, and the main villain's [[WellIntentionedExtremist reasons behind]] his scheme to [[spoiler: seemingly]] end the world.
* ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand3'' has the infamous boss fight against [[spoiler: the TrueFinalBoss, Zero, a giant eye with a red iris who freaking shoots ''blood'' at you as an attack, and later ''rips its own iris out of its body'' in a gory manner to keep fighting and then ''explodes, shooting blood '''everywhere'''''!]] That boss fight is ''why'' ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'' is reputed as SurpriseCreepy.

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** The DS sequel has [[SuddenDownerEnding the infamous ending]], a woman nearly ''committing suicide'' so her son could be Mayor, and the main villain's [[WellIntentionedExtremist reasons behind]] his scheme to [[spoiler: seemingly]] [[spoiler:seemingly]] end the world.
* ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand3'' has the infamous boss fight against [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the TrueFinalBoss, Zero, a giant eye with a red iris who freaking shoots ''blood'' at you as an attack, and later ''rips its own iris out of its body'' in a gory manner to keep fighting and then ''explodes, shooting blood '''everywhere'''''!]] That boss fight is ''why'' ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'' is reputed as SurpriseCreepy.



* ''MagicalStarsign'' starts as a cute, fluffy game but once the second act starts things swiftly go downhill. There's too much horrible stuff going on here to list it all without taking up pages, but to sum it up: [[spoiler: The main plot is about bringing mages to a planet where just being there turns them into into gummy-like inanimate blobs to be used as fuel for a space worm]].

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* ''MagicalStarsign'' starts as a cute, fluffy game but once the second act starts things swiftly go downhill. There's too much horrible stuff going on here to list it all without taking up pages, but to sum it up: [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The main plot is about bringing mages to a planet where just being there turns them into into gummy-like inanimate blobs to be used as fuel for a space worm]].



** ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' looks like an average kid's game, but is the darkest series in the franchise, with the main plot being hinged upon ''genocide''. And somehow the ESRB saw fit to give this game an ''E rating''. From the bloody intro of Mega Man Zero to [[spoiler: [[WellIntentionedExtremist Elpizo's]]]] [[SensoryAbuse ear-grating scream]], it's baffling on why it's rated E. And then there's [[PersonOfMassDestruction Omega]] and [[MadScientist Dr. Weil.]]

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** ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' looks like an average kid's game, but is the darkest series in the franchise, with the main plot being hinged upon ''genocide''. And somehow the ESRB saw fit to give this game an ''E rating''. From the bloody intro of Mega Man Zero to [[spoiler: [[WellIntentionedExtremist [[spoiler:[[WellIntentionedExtremist Elpizo's]]]] [[SensoryAbuse ear-grating scream]], it's baffling on why it's rated E. And then there's [[PersonOfMassDestruction Omega]] and [[MadScientist Dr. Weil.]]



** ''VideoGame/MetroidFusion''. You begin with the story being that Samus was ''nearly killed'' by a parasite called the X, and you're dropped right into the BSL Research Station, which is, as far as you know, completely devoid of human life thanks to the X. Early on you have to navigate a series of eerie unlit corridors because there's been an ''explosion'' in the quarantine room. Turns out it's just a Hornoad-X, but if you explore a bit you find a room completely frozen. If you decide to continue further inside, despite the damage you take from the cold (you've been injected with Metroid DNA) you see [[spoiler: '''Ridley''' (Who was supposed to be '''dead''') frozen in a block of ice.]] Play farther into the game, go down the Main Elevator, and what appears to be [[spoiler: Samus]] bursts into the shaft. [[spoiler: Then it zooms ''right'' in on 'her' face, revealing that it's some kind of mimic.]] You later find out that this mysterious entity is called the [[spoiler: SA-X, and that ''it's tracking you.'' You also can't even hope to kill it yet. You are told to ''run'' if you encounter it.]] And it '''does''' catch up with you. Then there's a boss called the [[spoiler: Nightmare]]. It's been flying through the background of the damaged area of the ARC Sector, startling you the first few times it happens. Then you [[spoiler: fight it]]. It has [[spoiler: a creepy mask, and when you damage it enough the mask breaks, revealing its disgusting alien face that, as you damage it further, begins ''dripping'']].

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** ''VideoGame/MetroidFusion''. You begin with the story being that Samus was ''nearly killed'' by a parasite called the X, and you're dropped right into the BSL Research Station, which is, as far as you know, completely devoid of human life thanks to the X. Early on you have to navigate a series of eerie unlit corridors because there's been an ''explosion'' in the quarantine room. Turns out it's just a Hornoad-X, but if you explore a bit you find a room completely frozen. If you decide to continue further inside, despite the damage you take from the cold (you've been injected with Metroid DNA) you see [[spoiler: '''Ridley''' [[spoiler:'''Ridley''' (Who was supposed to be '''dead''') frozen in a block of ice.]] Play farther into the game, go down the Main Elevator, and what appears to be [[spoiler: Samus]] [[spoiler:Samus]] bursts into the shaft. [[spoiler: Then [[spoiler:Then it zooms ''right'' in on 'her' face, revealing that it's some kind of mimic.]] You later find out that this mysterious entity is called the [[spoiler: SA-X, [[spoiler:SA-X, and that ''it's tracking you.'' You also can't even hope to kill it yet. You are told to ''run'' if you encounter it.]] And it '''does''' catch up with you. Then there's a boss called the [[spoiler: Nightmare]].[[spoiler:Nightmare]]. It's been flying through the background of the damaged area of the ARC Sector, startling you the first few times it happens. Then you [[spoiler: fight [[spoiler:fight it]]. It has [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a creepy mask, and when you damage it enough the mask breaks, revealing its disgusting alien face that, as you damage it further, begins ''dripping'']].



** In ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonRescueTeam'', you have to save the world from an impending comet while fighting against a Gengar that accuses you of being a cruel traitor that was cursed for selling out his own Pokemon. In ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonExplorers of Time and Darkness'', the plot is that you have to change the future because, as it is, [[spoiler: it is a world of ''complete'' and ''utter darkness'', where the sun never rises and the wind never blows.]] Besides that, innocent Pokemon get kidnapped, you have extremely freaky visions and, above all else, this whole game is a [[spoiler: ''suicide'' mission. That's right. You ''die'' at the end and you ''know'' you're going to die.]] Chew on that. Finally, in the rerelease of ''Time and Darkness'', they have mini-stories. And each one of those has a bad part, but the worst is probably in the last one, when one of the antagonists plans to [[spoiler: ''suck your soul out of your body (think [[Franchise/HarryPotter dementors]]), possess you, and go to the past in your body to convince people he is you.'']] In the post-credits story, [[spoiler: the BigBad disguises himself as a good guy, visits you in your dreams, and tells you that the world is going to end, that it's all your fault, and that ''you and your partner should kill yourselves.'']]
** ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonGatesToInfinity'' appears to be LighterAndSofter... until [[spoiler: you get betrayed by a fake damsel in distress, learn that the BigBad is an homicidal nihilist who has murdered potentially ''dozens'' of other humans summoned to stop him, see one of your allies ''frozen into a block of ice and shattered into pieces'' and fight a non-Pokemon EldritchAbomination composed of hopelessness, mistrust and despair]]. [[SarcasmMode Definitely kid-friendly.]]

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** In ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonRescueTeam'', you have to save the world from an impending comet while fighting against a Gengar that accuses you of being a cruel traitor that was cursed for selling out his own Pokemon. In ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonExplorers of Time and Darkness'', the plot is that you have to change the future because, as it is, [[spoiler: it [[spoiler:it is a world of ''complete'' and ''utter darkness'', where the sun never rises and the wind never blows.]] Besides that, innocent Pokemon get kidnapped, you have extremely freaky visions and, above all else, this whole game is a [[spoiler: ''suicide'' [[spoiler:''suicide'' mission. That's right. You ''die'' at the end and you ''know'' you're going to die.]] Chew on that. Finally, in the rerelease of ''Time and Darkness'', they have mini-stories. And each one of those has a bad part, but the worst is probably in the last one, when one of the antagonists plans to [[spoiler: ''suck [[spoiler:''suck your soul out of your body (think [[Franchise/HarryPotter dementors]]), possess you, and go to the past in your body to convince people he is you.'']] In the post-credits story, [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the BigBad disguises himself as a good guy, visits you in your dreams, and tells you that the world is going to end, that it's all your fault, and that ''you and your partner should kill yourselves.'']]
** ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonGatesToInfinity'' appears to be LighterAndSofter... until [[spoiler: you [[spoiler:you get betrayed by a fake damsel in distress, learn that the BigBad is an homicidal nihilist who has murdered potentially ''dozens'' of other humans summoned to stop him, see one of your allies ''frozen into a block of ice and shattered into pieces'' and fight a non-Pokemon EldritchAbomination composed of hopelessness, mistrust and despair]]. [[SarcasmMode Definitely kid-friendly.]]



* ''Franchise/RatchetAndClank'':

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* ''Franchise/RatchetAndClank'':''Franchise/RatchetAndClank'': The first four ''Ratchet & Clank'' games are rated T.[[note]]Although they would later be rerated E10+ when they were remade in HD.[[/note]] After the E10+ rating was invented, subsequent games were labeled as such despite increasing rates of violence and innuendo. Even Insomniac states that the games aren't meant for kids; they say their audience is 18-34 year olds.



* The two ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' games are this trope in Australia, where they somehow managed to get PG ratings despite the first game having violent deaths and occasional blood in cutscenes and pretty explicit sexual references (there's jokes about bondage kinks) and the second game being BloodierAndGorier, featuring huge amounts of blood in death cutscenes, terrorist attacks complete with masses of bloody civilian bodies (in one of the first areas of the game, at that), sexual references as normal and ''incredibly'' dark themes towards the end of the game. (The main character has to [[spoiler: murder his brother to save the world]])

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* The two ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' games are this trope in Australia, where they somehow managed to get PG ratings despite the first game having violent deaths and occasional blood in cutscenes and pretty explicit sexual references (there's jokes about bondage kinks) and the second game being BloodierAndGorier, featuring huge amounts of blood in death cutscenes, terrorist attacks complete with masses of bloody civilian bodies (in one of the first areas of the game, at that), sexual references as normal and ''incredibly'' dark themes towards the end of the game. (The main character has to [[spoiler: murder [[spoiler:murder his brother to save the world]])world]].)
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