History WhatAnIdiot / Theatre

7th Nov '17 1:57:51 PM WaywardTotodile
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** Dr. Orin Scrivello is a {{Jerkass}} dentist who enjoys torturing his patients and his girlfriend, Audrey. When seeing a walk-in patient, one of them pulls a gun on him. This happens to be Seymour, who is attempting to murder him. Dr. Scrivello easily knocks him down and puts him in a dentist chair, because Seymour doesn't have it in him to fire.\\

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** Dr. Orin Scrivello is a {{Jerkass}} dentist who enjoys torturing his patients and his girlfriend, Audrey. When seeing a walk-in patient, one of them pulls a gun on him. This happens to be Seymour, who is attempting to murder him. Dr. Scrivello easily knocks him down and puts him in a dentist chair, because Seymour doesn't have it in him to fire.\\ \\
26th Aug '17 11:36:06 AM Jayalaw
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* ''Theatre/LittleShopOfHorrors''
** Dr. Orin Scrivello is a {{Jerkass}} dentist who enjoys torturing his patients and his girlfriend, Audrey. When seeing a walk-in patient, one of them pulls a gun on him. This happens to be Seymour, who is attempting to murder him. Dr. Scrivello easily knocks him down and puts him in a dentist chair, because Seymour doesn't have it in him to fire.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That the dentist would call the police, especially since he isn't high on gas at the moment and has no excuse. He has a patient trying to ''murder'' him.\\
'''Instead''': Dr. Scrivello assumes Seymour has the gun because he's nervous about his walk-in. He then gloats to Seymour about what he's going to do to the poor man's teeth and then gets some nitrous oxide before drilling a tooth out. Then when the doctor finds the gas mask stuck on his face, and he starts to asphyxiate, Seymour refuses to help him, so that the dentist dies from the lack of oxygen.
** Seymour then feeds the dentist to the plant. This leaves a lot of evidence lying around, namely blood and Dr. Scrivello's uniform.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Seymour would gather the bloody dentist's uniform and some bleach to dispose of the evidence.\\
'''Instead''': He leaves the uniform and blood; his boss Mushnik finds it a week later and wants to go to the police, so that Seymour can give a statement and clear himself of the obvious evidence. The plant Audrey II, aka Twoey, convinces Seymour to [[spoiler:feed Mushnik to the plant]].
** Seymour braces himself to [[spoiler:kill more people so that the man-eating Twoey will lure in more contacts and money, and so that Audrey will love Seymour. She then reveals that she's always loved him, and doesn't care if he's rich or poor. Seymour decides that he will kill the plant because he can't live with the guilt; this can be easily done by not feeding Twoey and leaving the plant to wither in the shop]].\\
'''You'd Expect''': That given how clever and hypnotic Twoey is that Seymour would keep his mouth shut and simply leave with Audrey on an impulse trip. The plant is then none the wiser.\\
'''Instead''': Seymour starts rambling about it, to a confused Audrey, who leaves in a stressed mood, and Twoey gets wind of the scheme. Twoey then [[spoiler:takes advantage of a sleep-deprived Audrey entering the shop to find Seymour, and feeds on her blood. She dies from the blood loss, and Seymour reluctantly feeds her body to the plant. This means that when Seymour tries to destroy Twoey, he's overwhelmed easily and makes a suicidal charge into the plant's maw. Cue the plant apocalypse]].
22nd Jan '17 8:31:30 PM DrOO7
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*** The 2004 film version takes the idiocy even further: at one point the Phantom and Raoul have a sword fight in the cemetery, which Raoul eventually wins, leaving the Phantom with a sword at his throat and at Raoul's mercy. Just as Raoul's about to kill him Christine pipes up, pleading with him not to - or at least, "Not like this." \\

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*** The [[Film/ThePhantomOfTheOpera2004 2004 film version version]] takes the idiocy even further: at one point the Phantom and Raoul have a sword fight in the cemetery, which Raoul eventually wins, leaving the Phantom with a sword at his throat and at Raoul's mercy. Just as Raoul's about to kill him Christine pipes up, pleading with him not to - or at least, "Not like this." \\
22nd Nov '16 8:51:09 AM infernape612
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* Theatre/MadameButterfly: A young woman named Cio-cio-san aka Butterfly marries an American man named Pinkerton, against the opinion of pretty much everyone in their surroundings. It's also stated that Pinkerton married Butterfly just temporarily, and has no intention to actually ''stay'' by her side for more than a month. Pinkerton then leaves to the USA almost immediately after the marriage, and Butterfly is all alone for two/three years -- while her maid Suzuki, the USA consul Sharpless and even the matchmaker who got her hitched to Pinkerton, Gorou, have told her "YouHaveWaitedLongEnough" ''several times''.\\

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* Theatre/MadameButterfly: ''Theatre/MadameButterfly'': A young woman named Cio-cio-san aka Butterfly marries an American man named Pinkerton, against the opinion of pretty much everyone in their surroundings. It's also stated that Pinkerton married Butterfly just temporarily, and has no intention to actually ''stay'' by her side for more than a month. Pinkerton then leaves to the USA almost immediately after the marriage, and Butterfly is all alone for two/three years -- while her maid Suzuki, the USA consul Sharpless and even the matchmaker who got her hitched to Pinkerton, Gorou, have told her "YouHaveWaitedLongEnough" ''several times''.\\
6th Aug '16 3:26:22 PM nombretomado
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'''Instead:''' [[SmallNameBigEgo Cyrano arrogantly]] invokes ProtectionFromEditors and [[UngratefulBastard nastily rejects the patronage]]. To put things in perspective, rejecting Cardenal Richelieuís patronage in TheCavalierYears Paris itís like someone in MarvelUniverse rejecting Doctor Doomís patronage, or someone in DCUniverse rejecting ComicBook/LexLuthorís patronage ''when he was PresidentEvil of the United States''.

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'''Instead:''' [[SmallNameBigEgo Cyrano arrogantly]] invokes ProtectionFromEditors and [[UngratefulBastard nastily rejects the patronage]]. To put things in perspective, rejecting Cardenal Richelieuís patronage in TheCavalierYears Paris itís like someone in MarvelUniverse rejecting Doctor Doomís patronage, or someone in DCUniverse Franchise/DCUniverse rejecting ComicBook/LexLuthorís patronage ''when he was PresidentEvil of the United States''.
28th Dec '15 11:58:51 AM Anddrix
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'''Instead:''' [[SmallNameBigEgo Cyrano arrogantly]] invokes ProtectionFromEditors and [[UngratefulBastard nastily rejects the patronage]]. To put things in perspective, rejecting Cardenal Richelieuís patronage in TheCavalierYears Paris itís like someone in MarvelUniverse rejecting DoctorDoomís patronage, or someone in DCUniverse rejecting ComicBook/LexLuthorís patronage ''when he was PresidentEvil of the United States''.

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'''Instead:''' [[SmallNameBigEgo Cyrano arrogantly]] invokes ProtectionFromEditors and [[UngratefulBastard nastily rejects the patronage]]. To put things in perspective, rejecting Cardenal Richelieuís patronage in TheCavalierYears Paris itís like someone in MarvelUniverse rejecting DoctorDoomís Doctor Doomís patronage, or someone in DCUniverse rejecting ComicBook/LexLuthorís patronage ''when he was PresidentEvil of the United States''.
7th Nov '15 11:52:52 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''TheComedyOfErrors'': One character has been searching for his long-lost twin, and comes to a town where said twin actually lives, causing him to be recognized by everyone and confused with his twin. Mistakes abound, and HilarityEnsues.\\

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* ''TheComedyOfErrors'': ''Theatre/TheComedyOfErrors'': One character has been searching for his long-lost twin, and comes to a town where said twin actually lives, causing him to be recognized by everyone and confused with his twin. Mistakes abound, and HilarityEnsues.\\



* CyranoDeBergerac, an ImpoverishedPatrician StarvingArtist, unknown yet talented playwright, is offered the Patronage of [[MagnificentBastard Cardenal Richelieu]], [[ManBehindTheMan The most powerful man in all France]] and [[RenaissanceMan known playwright]], who will only [[ExecutiveMeddling ''edit one or two verses'']] of [[NewMeat Cyranoís unproduced play]], ''"Agrippine"''.\\

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* CyranoDeBergerac, ''Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac'', an ImpoverishedPatrician StarvingArtist, unknown yet talented playwright, is offered the Patronage of [[MagnificentBastard Cardenal Richelieu]], [[ManBehindTheMan The most powerful man in all France]] and [[RenaissanceMan known playwright]], who will only [[ExecutiveMeddling ''edit one or two verses'']] of [[NewMeat Cyranoís unproduced play]], ''"Agrippine"''.\\



* In the 2007 version of ''{{Hairspray}},'' Tracy wants to join the Negro Day Dancers to march against segregation in "The Corny Collins Show" in order for blacks to be allowed to dance on television. \\

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* In the 2007 version of ''{{Hairspray}},'' ''Theatre/{{Hairspray}},'' Tracy wants to join the Negro Day Dancers to march against segregation in "The Corny Collins Show" in order for blacks to be allowed to dance on television. \\



* ''SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'':

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* ''SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'':''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'':
7th Nov '15 11:51:51 AM Morgenthaler
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* PeerGynt: Ingrid, the sole daughter of the Hægstad farm, has been sweet on Peer for obvious reasons. His mother knew this.

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* PeerGynt: ''Theatre/PeerGynt'': Ingrid, the sole daughter of the Hægstad farm, has been sweet on Peer for obvious reasons. His mother knew this.



* ThePhantomOfTheOpera has this with the new managers Andre and Firmin. When the curtain crashes in the beginning and scares away Carlotta, Mdme. Giry presents a note from "The Opera Ghost" that demands 20,000 Francs among other things.\\

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* ThePhantomOfTheOpera ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' has this with the new managers Andre and Firmin. When the curtain crashes in the beginning and scares away Carlotta, Mdme. Giry presents a note from "The Opera Ghost" that demands 20,000 Francs among other things.\\
5th Jul '15 5:05:51 PM nombretomado
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'''Instead:''' [[SmallNameBigEgo Cyrano arrogantly]] invokes ProtectionFromEditors and [[UngratefulBastard nastily rejects the patronage]]. To put things in perspective, rejecting Cardenal Richelieuís patronage in TheCavalierYears Paris itís like someone in MarvelUniverse rejecting DoctorDoomís patronage, or someone in DCUniverse rejecting LexLuthorís patronage ''when he was PresidentEvil of the United States''.

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'''Instead:''' [[SmallNameBigEgo Cyrano arrogantly]] invokes ProtectionFromEditors and [[UngratefulBastard nastily rejects the patronage]]. To put things in perspective, rejecting Cardenal Richelieuís patronage in TheCavalierYears Paris itís like someone in MarvelUniverse rejecting DoctorDoomís patronage, or someone in DCUniverse rejecting LexLuthorís ComicBook/LexLuthorís patronage ''when he was PresidentEvil of the United States''.
17th Jun '15 2:54:39 PM RainFairy
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* Theatre/MadameButterfly: A young woman named Cio-cio-san aka Butterfly marries an American man named Pinkerton, against the opinion of pretty much everyone in their surroundings. It's also stated that Pinkerton married Butterfly just temporarily, and has no intention to actually ''stay'' by her side for more than a month. Pinkerton then leaves to the USA almost immediately after the marriage, and Butterfly is all alone for two/three years -- while her maid Suzuki, the USA consul Sharpless and even the matchmaker who got her hitched to Pinkerton, Gorou, have told her to not wait anymore for him.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Butterfly to consider her difficult situation (she has a young child fathered by Pinkerton, her family save for Suzuki has disowned her for converting to Christianity, they barely have money to scrap by, etc.) and decide that she cannot just stay there waiting endlessly. Even if she still loves Pinkerton, which is understandable since he's her FirstLove and Butterfly herself is merely in her late teens, it's best for Butterfly to be pragmatic and think of her own well-being -- and specially, her ''kid's'' own well-being, as the boy ''is'' already being looked down on for "not having a father".\\
'''Instead:''' She keeps waiting for Pinkerton, blindly believing that as soon as he returns, he will stand by her and everything will be okay. She also refuses all the warnings from Suzuki, the pleas from Sharpless, and Goro's offer to get her a new husband. Predictably, when Pinkerton ''does'' show up, he brings his new American wife Kate and intends to take their kid to the USA, leaving Butterfly alone in Japan. [[SpurnedintoSuicide It goes as well as you expect.]]

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* Theatre/MadameButterfly: A young woman named Cio-cio-san aka Butterfly marries an American man named Pinkerton, against the opinion of pretty much everyone in their surroundings. It's also stated that Pinkerton married Butterfly just temporarily, and has no intention to actually ''stay'' by her side for more than a month. Pinkerton then leaves to the USA almost immediately after the marriage, and Butterfly is all alone for two/three years -- while her maid Suzuki, the USA consul Sharpless and even the matchmaker who got her hitched to Pinkerton, Gorou, have told her to not wait anymore for him."YouHaveWaitedLongEnough" ''several times''.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Butterfly to consider her difficult situation (she has a young child fathered by Pinkerton, her family save for Suzuki has disowned her for converting to Christianity, they barely have money to scrap by, etc.) and decide that nope, she cannot just stay there waiting endlessly. Even if she still loves Pinkerton, which is ''very'' understandable since he's her FirstLove and Butterfly herself is merely in her late teens, it's best for Butterfly to be pragmatic and think of her own well-being -- and specially, her ''kid's'' own well-being, as [[HalfBreeddiscrimination the boy poor boy]] ''is'' already being looked down on for "not having a father".father". Furthermore, Gorou tells her that he can get her a new and much better husband, meaning that she might be able to rebuild her life more or less well if she says yes.\\
'''Instead:''' She keeps waiting for Pinkerton, blindly believing that as soon as he returns, he will stand by her and everything will be okay. She also not only refuses all Gorou's offer, but also rebuffs the warnings from Suzuki, Suzuki and the pleas from Sharpless, and Goro's offer to get her a new husband. Sharpless. Predictably, when Pinkerton ''does'' show up, he brings his new American wife Kate and intends to take their kid to the USA, leaving Butterfly alone in Japan. [[SpurnedintoSuicide It goes as well as you one might expect.]]



'''You'd expect''': For Pinkerton to at least be considerate enough to keep an eye on this girl who, according to Sharpless, completely trusts Pinkerton's good will and love. Even if he cannot take her to the USA or stay in Japan, you know, ''not being an ass to Butterfly'' is at least in minimal good taste. Sharpless is also a guy who seems to be very savvy about Japanese society (he ''is'' the American consul after all), so his word shouldn't be taken lightly.\\
'''Instead''': Not only Pinkerton doesn't give a crap about Butterfly's feelings and stays away for ''three years'' without apparently contacting her, but he ''does'' marry this American woman named Kate and ''brings her with him to Japan''. As said above, [[SpurnedIntoSuicide Butterfly does NOT take it well]].

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'''You'd expect''': For Pinkerton to at least be considerate enough to keep an eye on this girl who, according to Sharpless, completely trusts Pinkerton's good will and love. Even if he cannot take her to the USA or stay in Japan, you know, ''not being an ass to Butterfly'' is at least in minimal good taste. Sharpless is also a guy who seems to be very savvy about Japanese society (he ''is'' As the American consul after all), in Nagasaki, Sharpless has quite the knowledge of Japanese society as a whole, so his word shouldn't be taken lightly.\\
'''Instead''': Not only Pinkerton doesn't give a crap about Butterfly's feelings and stays away for ''three years'' without apparently contacting her, but he ''does'' marry this American woman named Kate and ''brings her his American wife Kate with him to Japan''. As said above, [[SpurnedIntoSuicide Butterfly does NOT take it well]].
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