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* In ''The Mandalore Plot'', Obi-Wan gets knocked out and captured by a couple of Death Watch members on Concordia while he investigated a mining facility to see if it is abandoned and not operational. They then put Obi-Wan on a ConveyerBeltOfDoom.
'''You'd expect''': The Death Watch goons to take Obi-Wan's wrist comlink and smash it (like Lo-Tarren does in Padawan Lost) so that he would not be able to call for help from Satine.
'''Instead:''' They ignore the comlink, and just keep his lightsaber, and Obi-Wan is able to get in contact with Satine after he regains consciousness.
'''Later:''' When Satine arrives at the mining facility where Death Watch is hiding to save Obi-Wan, she sets off the alarm so that she could have guards respond and get distracted from Obi-Wan.
'''You'd Think:''' One of the Mandalorian Death Watch members to be GenreSavvy and tell the other to stay and keep a watch on the ConveyerBeltOfDoom, while he goes goes to investigate the disturbance at the entrance, and the guard at the conveyer belt would be able to stop Satine from saving Obi-Wan when she eventually arrives at the scene.
'''Instead:''' Both of the Mandalorians go check out the disturbance and not have one watch the conveyer belt and let Satine help Obi-Wan.
'''You'd expect''': The Death Watch goons to take Obi-Wan's wrist comlink and smash it (like Lo-Tarren does in Padawan Lost) so that he would not be able to call for help from Satine.
'''Instead:''' They ignore the comlink, and just keep his lightsaber, and Obi-Wan is able to get in contact with Satine after he regains consciousness.
'''Later:''' When Satine arrives at the mining facility where Death Watch is hiding to save Obi-Wan, she sets off the alarm so that she could have guards respond and get distracted from Obi-Wan.
'''You'd Think:''' One of the Mandalorian Death Watch members to be GenreSavvy and tell the other to stay and keep a watch on the ConveyerBeltOfDoom, while he goes goes to investigate the disturbance at the entrance, and the guard at the conveyer belt would be able to stop Satine from saving Obi-Wan when she eventually arrives at the scene.
'''Instead:''' Both of the Mandalorians go check out the disturbance and not have one watch the conveyer belt and let Satine help Obi-Wan.
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* In ''Carnage of Krell" the clones attempt to arrest Krell for treason, who however escapes from the base easily, and runs into the dark and foggy jungle.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Krell to go straight to the Umbarans, especially, since he knew their remaining army is headed towards their location.\\
'''Instead:''' He starts slaughtering clones who followed him, apparently just ForTheEvulz. You could say that he engaged them to prevent them from pursuing, except the clones admittedly had problems following him even on a short-run. He could've escaped them easily.\\
'''It Get's Worse:'''When it became apparent that the clones are absolutely no match for Krell, Tup pulled a BringIt ploy, standing right next to a [[CombatTentacles Combat Tentacled]] ManEatingPlant.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Krell who was pursuing other clones, to casually use the Force and break Tup's neck or something similar from afar.\\
'''Instead:''' He gaves up his pursuit, runs up to Tup, prepairing to gut him with his lightsabers, and promptly triggers the trap, sealing his fate.
'''You'd Expect:''' Krell to go straight to the Umbarans, especially, since he knew their remaining army is headed towards their location.\\
'''Instead:''' He starts slaughtering clones who followed him, apparently just ForTheEvulz. You could say that he engaged them to prevent them from pursuing, except the clones admittedly had problems following him even on a short-run. He could've escaped them easily.\\
'''It Get's Worse:'''When it became apparent that the clones are absolutely no match for Krell, Tup pulled a BringIt ploy, standing right next to a [[CombatTentacles Combat Tentacled]] ManEatingPlant.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Krell who was pursuing other clones, to casually use the Force and break Tup's neck or something similar from afar.\\
'''Instead:''' He gaves up his pursuit, runs up to Tup, prepairing to gut him with his lightsabers, and promptly triggers the trap, sealing his fate.
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'''However:''' If you seem to recall, they are thousands of stories high on the rooftops on Coruscant, and if Ahsoka ''tried'' using the Force to grab the lightsaber from Cassie's hand, she could probably end up ''not'' grabbing lightsaber and instead, cause Cassie to drop it, and end up ''losing'' the lightsaber forever.
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'''You'd Expect:''' the two warring sides to have at least a few battle ships stationed aboved the planet, to prevent the other side, from both sending in reinforcements and evacuating their troops.\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' Think:''' the two warring sides to have at least a few battle ships stationed aboved the planet, to prevent the other side, from both sending in reinforcements and evacuating their troops.\\
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* In ''Lightsaber Lost'' a pickpocket stole Ahsoka's lightsaber. After a long investigation she finds it in the hands of an amatourish bounty hunter.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Her just to use the Force to pull the weapon out of the bounty hunters hands.\\
'''Instead:''' Ahsoka follows her on a lengthy pursuit, during which she used the Force numerous times to try to slow the bounty hunter down, but never to grab her lightsaber from her hands.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Her just to use the Force to pull the weapon out of the bounty hunters hands.\\
'''Instead:''' Ahsoka follows her on a lengthy pursuit, during which she used the Force numerous times to try to slow the bounty hunter down, but never to grab her lightsaber from her hands.\\
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* In ''Lightsaber Lost'' a pickpocket stole Ahsoka's lightsaber. After a long investigation she finds it in the hands of an amatourish bounty hunter.hunter, Cassie Cryar.\\
'''You'd expect:'''Her Ahsoka to just to use the Force to pull the weapon out of the bounty hunters Cassie's hands.\\
'''Instead:''' Ahsoka follows her on a lengthy pursuit, during which she used the Force numerous times to try to slowthe bounty hunter Cassie down, but never to grab her lightsaber from her hands.\\
'''However:''' If you seem to recall, they are thousands of stories high on the rooftops on Coruscant, and if Ahsoka ''tried'' using the Force to grab the lightsaber from Cassie's hand, she could probably end up ''not'' grabbing lightsaber and instead, cause Cassie to drop it, and end up ''losing'' the lightsaber forever.
'''You'd expect:'''
'''Instead:''' Ahsoka follows her on a lengthy pursuit, during which she used the Force numerous times to try to slow
'''However:''' If you seem to recall, they are thousands of stories high on the rooftops on Coruscant, and if Ahsoka ''tried'' using the Force to grab the lightsaber from Cassie's hand, she could probably end up ''not'' grabbing lightsaber and instead, cause Cassie to drop it, and end up ''losing'' the lightsaber forever.
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'''Instead''': Says out loud that he has scheduled Lee-Char's public execution to everybody in the room (with Nossor Ri and a Quarren in the area) and Nossor Ri starts to really starts realizing that Riff has gone too far by scheduling an execution for Lee-Char, and pulls off a HeelFaceTurn during the execution by saving Lee-Char from the Karakodan executioners and helps the Republic be victorious against the Separatists. NiceJobFixingItVillain indeed!\\
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'''Instead''': Says out loud that he has scheduled Lee-Char's public execution to everybody in the room (with Nossor Ri and a Quarren in the area) and Nossor Ri starts to really starts realizing that Riff has gone too far by scheduling an execution for Lee-Char, and pulls off a HeelFaceTurn during the execution by saving Lee-Char from the Karakodan executioners and helps the Republic be victorious against the Separatists. NiceJobFixingItVillain indeed!\\
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'''You'd Expect''': Riff Tamson to simply have Lee-Char taken away without telling him that he has scheduled his execution, and keep the details of Lee-Char's public execution a secret from Nossor Ri so that he could not regret his mistake for joining the CIS until it is far too late, and be able to be permanently victorious on Mon Calamari.\\
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'''You'd Expect''': Think''': Riff Tamson to simply have Lee-Char taken away without telling him that he has scheduled his execution, and keep the details of Lee-Char's public execution a secret from Nossor Ri so that he could not regret his mistake for joining the CIS until it is far too late, and be able to be permanently victorious on Mon Calamari.\\
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'''It Gets Worse:''' You'd expect them to try to hide the king in the brushes, that surrounds them from every angle except in the front and the back.\\
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'''It Gets Worse:''' You'd expect them thinky they would to try to hide the king in the brushes, that surrounds them from every angle except in the front and the back.\\
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'''Instead''': Says out loud that he has scheduled Lee-Char's public execution to everybody in the room (with Nossor Ri and a Quarren in the area) and Nossor Ri starts to really starts realizing that Riff has gone too far by scheduling an execution for Lee-Char, and pulls off a HeelFaceTurn during the execution by saving Lee-Char from the Karakodan executioners and helps the Republic be victorious against the Separatists. NiceJobFixingItVillain indeed!
'''It Gets Worse''' He collected all the prisoners his army captured during the earlier battles to make them watch Lee-Char's execution (clones and gungans for whom the prince meant basicly nothing included), and he didn't even had them handcuffed!
'''It Gets Worse''' He collected all the prisoners his army captured during the earlier battles to make them watch Lee-Char's execution (clones and gungans for whom the prince meant basicly nothing included), and he didn't even had them handcuffed!
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'''Instead''': Says out loud that he has scheduled Lee-Char's public execution to everybody in the room (with Nossor Ri and a Quarren in the area) and Nossor Ri starts to really starts realizing that Riff has gone too far by scheduling an execution for Lee-Char, and pulls off a HeelFaceTurn during the execution by saving Lee-Char from the Karakodan executioners and helps the Republic be victorious against the Separatists. NiceJobFixingItVillain indeed!
indeed!\\
'''It Gets Worse'''He Tamson collected all the prisoners his army captured during the earlier battles to make them watch Lee-Char's execution (clones and gungans for whom the prince meant basicly nothing nothing, included), and he didn't even had them handcuffed!
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* In ''Lightsaber Lost'' a pickpocket stole Ahsoka's lightsaber. After a long investigation she finds it in the hands of an amatourish bounty hunter.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Her just to use the Force to pull the weapon out of the bounty hunters hands.\\
'''Instead:''' Ahsoka follows her on a lengthy pursuit, during which she used the Force numerous times to try to slow the bounty hunter down, but never to grab her lightsaber from her hands.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Her just to use the Force to pull the weapon out of the bounty hunters hands.\\
'''Instead:''' Ahsoka follows her on a lengthy pursuit, during which she used the Force numerous times to try to slow the bounty hunter down, but never to grab her lightsaber from her hands.\\
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* In ''Lightsaber Lost'' a pickpocket stole Ahsoka's lightsaber. After a long investigation she finds it in the hands of an amatourish bounty hunter.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Her just to use the Force to pull the weapon out of the bounty hunters hands.\\
'''Instead:''' Ahsoka follows her on a lengthy pursuit, during which she used the Force numerous times to try to slow the bounty hunter down, but never to grab her lightsaber from her hands.\\
'''However:''' Let's not forget that that they are on top of buildings that are thousands of stories high, and Ahsoka probably doesn't want to risk losing her lightsaber forever.
'''You'd expect:''' Her just to use the Force to pull the weapon out of the bounty hunters hands.\\
'''Instead:''' Ahsoka follows her on a lengthy pursuit, during which she used the Force numerous times to try to slow the bounty hunter down, but never to grab her lightsaber from her hands.\\
'''However:''' Let's not forget that that they are on top of buildings that are thousands of stories high, and Ahsoka probably doesn't want to risk losing her lightsaber forever.
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* In ''Lightsaber Lost'' a pickpocket stole Ahsoka's lightsaber. After a long investigation she finds it in "Padawan Lost" the hands of an amatourish bounty hunter.Republic and the Separatists are battling on Felucia.\\
'''You'dexpect:''' Her just to use Expect:''' the Force two warring sides to pull have at least a few battle ships stationed aboved the weapon out of planet, to prevent the bounty hunters hands.other side, from both sending in reinforcements and evacuating their troops.\\
'''Instead:''' '''Instead''': They don't even monitor the sky for ships entering or exiting the orbit, allowing for a Trandoshan hunting party to sneak in and kidnap Ahsoka follows her on undetected.
* In ''Prisoners'': After Anakin and Kit Fisto are taken prisoner by Riff Tamson, he imprisons them in alengthy pursuit, during which she used the Force numerous times to try to slow the bounty hunter down, but never to grab her lightsaber couple of cages made from electric eels (very dangerous), he uses them for interrogation. After refusing to help Padme from drowning due to a cracked helmet, claiming that he doesn't he exits the room. Anakin and Kit Fisto manage to attempt to create a bubble for Padme to breath in to prevent her hands.from drowning, but Jar-Jar uses his spit to seal the crack. So that means Jedi can still use the Force.\\
'''However:''' Let's not forget that that they '''You'd Expect:''' Anakin and Kit Fisto to also use the Force while no guards are on top of buildings around, to kill the eels that are thousands of stories high, acting as their cages (they are not innocent life forms), and Ahsoka probably doesn't want maybe try to risk losing her lightsaber forever.
start an uprising. Or they could try mind tricking the Quarren guards into letting them go.\\
'''Instead:''' They just sit there and do nothing and don't even try to use the Force to free themselves!
* Also in ''Prisoners'', when Prince Lee-Char is caught and demands to have an audience with Riff Tamson and Nossor Ri, he tries to convince him about the unity between the Quarren and Mon Calamari once had when his father was king, and how he worked with Nossor Ri on having a better relationship. However, the words seemed to be in vain. Riff knows that Lee-Char is the symbol of hope for the Mon Calamari people. His plan: kill him and kill hope for the Mon Calamari by executing him.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Riff Tamson to simply have Lee-Char taken away without telling him that he has scheduled his execution, and keep the details of Lee-Char's public execution a secret from Nossor Ri so that he could not regret his mistake for joining the CIS until it is far too late, and be able to be permanently victorious on Mon Calamari.\\
'''Instead''': Says out loud that he has scheduled Lee-Char's public execution to everybody in the room (with Nossor Ri and a Quarren in the area) and Nossor Ri starts to really starts realizing that Riff has gone too far by scheduling an execution for Lee-Char, and pulls off a HeelFaceTurn during the execution by saving Lee-Char from the Karakodan executioners and helps the Republic be victorious against the Separatists. NiceJobFixingItVillain indeed!
'''It Gets Worse''' He collected all the prisoners his army captured during the earlier battles to make them watch Lee-Char's execution (clones and gungans for whom the prince meant basicly nothing included), and he didn't even had them handcuffed!
'''You'd
* In ''Prisoners'': After Anakin and Kit Fisto are taken prisoner by Riff Tamson, he imprisons them in a
'''Instead:''' They just sit there and do nothing and don't even try to use the Force to free themselves!
* Also in ''Prisoners'', when Prince Lee-Char is caught and demands to have an audience with Riff Tamson and Nossor Ri, he tries to convince him about the unity between the Quarren and Mon Calamari once had when his father was king, and how he worked with Nossor Ri on having a better relationship. However, the words seemed to be in vain. Riff knows that Lee-Char is the symbol of hope for the Mon Calamari people. His plan: kill him and kill hope for the Mon Calamari by executing him.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Riff Tamson to simply have Lee-Char taken away without telling him that he has scheduled his execution, and keep the details of Lee-Char's public execution a secret from Nossor Ri so that he could not regret his mistake for joining the CIS until it is far too late, and be able to be permanently victorious on Mon Calamari.\\
'''Instead''': Says out loud that he has scheduled Lee-Char's public execution to everybody in the room (with Nossor Ri and a Quarren in the area) and Nossor Ri starts to really starts realizing that Riff has gone too far by scheduling an execution for Lee-Char, and pulls off a HeelFaceTurn during the execution by saving Lee-Char from the Karakodan executioners and helps the Republic be victorious against the Separatists. NiceJobFixingItVillain indeed!
'''It Gets Worse''' He collected all the prisoners his army captured during the earlier battles to make them watch Lee-Char's execution (clones and gungans for whom the prince meant basicly nothing included), and he didn't even had them handcuffed!
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'''You's Expect:''' The body guards to keep the king there and shoot any intruding droid, until reinforcement arrives, and takes care of the droids, and escape with the king only when it's safe outside.\\
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'''Instead:''' They continue running straight forwards, towards a ravine, which they must be very well aware of.
* In ''Prisoners'': After Anakin and Kit Fisto are taken prisoner by Riff Tamson, he imprisons them in a couple of cages made from electric eels (very dangerous), he uses them for interrogation. After refusing to help Padme from drowning due to a cracked helmet, claiming that he doesn't he exits the room. Anakin and Kit Fisto manage to attempt to create a bubble for Padme to breath in to prevent her from drowning, but Jar-Jar uses his spit to seal the crack. So that means Jedi can still use the Force.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin and Kit Fisto to also use the Force while no guards are around, to kill the eels that are acting as their cages (they are not innocent life forms), and maybe try to start an uprising. Or they could try mind tricking the Quarren guards into letting them go.\\
'''Instead:''' They just sit there and do nothing and don't even try to use the Force to free themselves!
* Also in ''Prisoners'', when Prince Lee-Char is caught and demands to have an audience with Riff Tamson and Nossor Ri, he tries to convince him about the unity between the Quarren and Mon Calamari once had when his father was king, and how he worked with Nossor Ri on having a better relationship. However, the words seemed to be in vain. Riff knows that Lee-Char is the symbol of hope for the Mon Calamari people. His plan: kill him and kill hope for the Mon Calamari by executing him.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Riff Tamson to simply have Lee-Char taken away without telling him that he has scheduled his execution, and keep the details of Lee-Char's public execution a secret from Nossor Ri so that he could not regret his mistake for joining the CIS until it is far too late, and be able to be permanently victorious on Mon Calamari.\\
'''Instead''': Says out loud that he has scheduled Lee-Char's public execution to everybody in the room (with Nossor Ri and a Quarren in the area) and Nossor Ri starts to really starts realizing that Riff has gone too far by scheduling an execution for Lee-Char, and pulls off a HeelFaceTurn during the execution by saving Lee-Char from the Karakodan executioners and helps the Republic be victorious against the Separatists. NiceJobFixingItVillain indeed!
* In ''Prisoners'': After Anakin and Kit Fisto are taken prisoner by Riff Tamson, he imprisons them in a couple of cages made from electric eels (very dangerous), he uses them for interrogation. After refusing to help Padme from drowning due to a cracked helmet, claiming that he doesn't he exits the room. Anakin and Kit Fisto manage to attempt to create a bubble for Padme to breath in to prevent her from drowning, but Jar-Jar uses his spit to seal the crack. So that means Jedi can still use the Force.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin and Kit Fisto to also use the Force while no guards are around, to kill the eels that are acting as their cages (they are not innocent life forms), and maybe try to start an uprising. Or they could try mind tricking the Quarren guards into letting them go.\\
'''Instead:''' They just sit there and do nothing and don't even try to use the Force to free themselves!
* Also in ''Prisoners'', when Prince Lee-Char is caught and demands to have an audience with Riff Tamson and Nossor Ri, he tries to convince him about the unity between the Quarren and Mon Calamari once had when his father was king, and how he worked with Nossor Ri on having a better relationship. However, the words seemed to be in vain. Riff knows that Lee-Char is the symbol of hope for the Mon Calamari people. His plan: kill him and kill hope for the Mon Calamari by executing him.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Riff Tamson to simply have Lee-Char taken away without telling him that he has scheduled his execution, and keep the details of Lee-Char's public execution a secret from Nossor Ri so that he could not regret his mistake for joining the CIS until it is far too late, and be able to be permanently victorious on Mon Calamari.\\
'''Instead''': Says out loud that he has scheduled Lee-Char's public execution to everybody in the room (with Nossor Ri and a Quarren in the area) and Nossor Ri starts to really starts realizing that Riff has gone too far by scheduling an execution for Lee-Char, and pulls off a HeelFaceTurn during the execution by saving Lee-Char from the Karakodan executioners and helps the Republic be victorious against the Separatists. NiceJobFixingItVillain indeed!
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'''Instead:''' They continue running straight forwards, towards a ravine, which they must be very well aware of.
* In ''Prisoners'': After Anakin and Kit Fisto are taken prisoner by Riff Tamson, he imprisons them in a couple of cages made from electric eels (very dangerous), he uses them for interrogation. After refusing to help Padme from drowning due to a cracked helmet, claiming that he doesn't he exits the room. Anakin and Kit Fisto manage to attempt to create a bubble for Padme to breath in to prevent her from drowning, but Jar-Jar uses his spit to seal the crack. So that means Jedi can still use the Force.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin and Kit Fisto to also use the Force while no guards are around, to kill the eels that are acting as their cages (they are not innocent life forms), and maybe try to start an uprising. Or they could try mind tricking the Quarren guards into letting them go.\\
'''Instead:''' They just sit there and do nothing and don't even try to use the Force to free themselves!
* Also in ''Prisoners'', when Prince Lee-Char is caught and demands to have an audience with Riff Tamson and Nossor Ri, he tries to convince him about the unity between the Quarren and Mon Calamari once had when his father was king, and how he worked with Nossor Ri on having a better relationship. However, the words seemed to be in vain. Riff knows that Lee-Char is the symbol of hope for the Mon Calamari people. His plan: kill him and kill hope for the Mon Calamari by executing him.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Riff Tamson to simply have Lee-Char taken away without telling him that he has scheduled his execution, and keep the details of Lee-Char's public execution a secret from Nossor Ri so that he could not regret his mistake for joining the CIS until it is far too late, and be able to be permanently victorious on Mon Calamari.\\
'''Instead''': Says out loud that he has scheduled Lee-Char's public execution to everybody in the room (with Nossor Ri and a Quarren in the area) and Nossor Ri starts to really starts realizing that Riff has gone too far by scheduling an execution for Lee-Char, and pulls off a HeelFaceTurn during the execution by saving Lee-Char from the Karakodan executioners and helps the Republic be victorious against the Separatists. NiceJobFixingItVillain indeed!of.
* In ''Prisoners'': After Anakin and Kit Fisto are taken prisoner by Riff Tamson, he imprisons them in a couple of cages made from electric eels (very dangerous), he uses them for interrogation. After refusing to help Padme from drowning due to a cracked helmet, claiming that he doesn't he exits the room. Anakin and Kit Fisto manage to attempt to create a bubble for Padme to breath in to prevent her from drowning, but Jar-Jar uses his spit to seal the crack. So that means Jedi can still use the Force.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin and Kit Fisto to also use the Force while no guards are around, to kill the eels that are acting as their cages (they are not innocent life forms), and maybe try to start an uprising. Or they could try mind tricking the Quarren guards into letting them go.\\
'''Instead:''' They just sit there and do nothing and don't even try to use the Force to free themselves!
* Also in ''Prisoners'', when Prince Lee-Char is caught and demands to have an audience with Riff Tamson and Nossor Ri, he tries to convince him about the unity between the Quarren and Mon Calamari once had when his father was king, and how he worked with Nossor Ri on having a better relationship. However, the words seemed to be in vain. Riff knows that Lee-Char is the symbol of hope for the Mon Calamari people. His plan: kill him and kill hope for the Mon Calamari by executing him.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Riff Tamson to simply have Lee-Char taken away without telling him that he has scheduled his execution, and keep the details of Lee-Char's public execution a secret from Nossor Ri so that he could not regret his mistake for joining the CIS until it is far too late, and be able to be permanently victorious on Mon Calamari.\\
'''Instead''': Says out loud that he has scheduled Lee-Char's public execution to everybody in the room (with Nossor Ri and a Quarren in the area) and Nossor Ri starts to really starts realizing that Riff has gone too far by scheduling an execution for Lee-Char, and pulls off a HeelFaceTurn during the execution by saving Lee-Char from the Karakodan executioners and helps the Republic be victorious against the Separatists. NiceJobFixingItVillain indeed!
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I don\'t think you understand what \"What An Idiot\" is. What An Idiot is if there\'s absolutely no In-universe justification for the doing something stupid, and it\'s the lack of that, which promps this reaction from the audience. It\'s not just \"Anything someone considers stupid\". Confusion and exhaustion are perfect justifications for not using the force, to push or pull things, for which characters are always shown to have to concentrate for a few seconds. As for why Ahsoka didn\'t just shout her location into the comlink: numerous times the comlinks were shown to be working as cellphones, that needs a button push to send answer, and not just hear what the other says.
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* In the penultimate episode of Season 3, Padawan Lost, Ahsoka is knocked out by Lo-Tarren, on Garnac's Trandoshan henchmen, during a battle on Felucia, she regains consciousness in a cage on the Trandoshan Ship, and Lo-Tarren holds Ahsoka's comlink, which Anakin is desperately trying to call Ahsoka.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka to shout her status (that she is in some kind of trouble) through her stolen comlink while it's still active that she's been kidnapped, or try to pull it towards her using the Force, before Lo-Tarren smashes it and at least give Anakin an idea on what has happened to her. (Heck, Padme did that in the Clone Wars pilot movie to a holographic message to C-3PO when she was captured by Ziro the Hutt before the transmitter was smashed by the IG droid, and that was how C-3PO was able to get the Coruscant Guard to come and help her out).\\
'''Instead:''' She just sits there trying to get the cage's top off her with no successes, and Lo-Tarren smashes her comlink, and no one gets any clue what has happened to Ahsoka.
* In ''Altar of Mortis'', when Obi-Wan throws Anakin the Dagger of Mortis to use it to kill the Son of Mortis, Ahsoka, who was possesed by the Son, catches it. The Son tells Ahsoka to give him the Dagger so he can use it to kill the Father of Mortis.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin ''or'' Obi-Wan to use the Force to pull the Dagger of Mortis of Ahsoka's hand and try to kill the Son with it and possibly un-posses Ahsoka.\\
'''Instead:''' They do nothing, and let Ahsoka give the dagger to the Son, who then taps Ahsoka's forehead, killing her instantly.\\
'''It Gets Worse:''' After killing Ahsoka, the Son of Mortis gets ready to stab the Father of Mortis and escape.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Daughter to either transform into her griffon-like form and attack the Son, or use the Force to either pull the dagger away from the Son or Force push him away from the Father.\\
'''Instead:''' She just charges right in between the Father and Son and takes the stab, breaking the balance of the Force!
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka to shout her status (that she is in some kind of trouble) through her stolen comlink while it's still active that she's been kidnapped, or try to pull it towards her using the Force, before Lo-Tarren smashes it and at least give Anakin an idea on what has happened to her. (Heck, Padme did that in the Clone Wars pilot movie to a holographic message to C-3PO when she was captured by Ziro the Hutt before the transmitter was smashed by the IG droid, and that was how C-3PO was able to get the Coruscant Guard to come and help her out).\\
'''Instead:''' She just sits there trying to get the cage's top off her with no successes, and Lo-Tarren smashes her comlink, and no one gets any clue what has happened to Ahsoka.
* In ''Altar of Mortis'', when Obi-Wan throws Anakin the Dagger of Mortis to use it to kill the Son of Mortis, Ahsoka, who was possesed by the Son, catches it. The Son tells Ahsoka to give him the Dagger so he can use it to kill the Father of Mortis.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin ''or'' Obi-Wan to use the Force to pull the Dagger of Mortis of Ahsoka's hand and try to kill the Son with it and possibly un-posses Ahsoka.\\
'''Instead:''' They do nothing, and let Ahsoka give the dagger to the Son, who then taps Ahsoka's forehead, killing her instantly.\\
'''It Gets Worse:''' After killing Ahsoka, the Son of Mortis gets ready to stab the Father of Mortis and escape.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Daughter to either transform into her griffon-like form and attack the Son, or use the Force to either pull the dagger away from the Son or Force push him away from the Father.\\
'''Instead:''' She just charges right in between the Father and Son and takes the stab, breaking the balance of the Force!
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* When Prince Lee-Char is caught and demands to have an audience with Riff Tamson and Nossor Ri, he tries to convince him about the unity between the Quarren and Mon Calamari once had when his father was king, and how he worked with Nossor Ri on having a better relationship. However, the words seemed to be in vain. Riff knows that Lee-Char is the symbol of hope for the Mon Calamari people. His plan: kill him and kill hope for the Mon Calamari by executing him.\\
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* When Also in ''Prisoners'', when Prince Lee-Char is caught and demands to have an audience with Riff Tamson and Nossor Ri, he tries to convince him about the unity between the Quarren and Mon Calamari once had when his father was king, and how he worked with Nossor Ri on having a better relationship. However, the words seemed to be in vain. Riff knows that Lee-Char is the symbol of hope for the Mon Calamari people. His plan: kill him and kill hope for the Mon Calamari by executing him.\\
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'''Instead:''' He just follows Merrick, who still holds the detonator, and ''still'' holds Satine hostage, and does NOTHING about stopping him from blowing up the ship!\\
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'''Instead:''' He just follows Merrick, who still holds the detonator, and ''still'' holds Satine hostage, and does NOTHING about stopping him from blowing up the ship!\\
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'''Instead:''' They just sit there and do nothing and don't even try to use the Force to free themselves!
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'''Instead:''' They just sit there and do nothing and don't even try to use the Force to free themselves!themselves!
*When Prince Lee-Char is caught and demands to have an audience with Riff Tamson and Nossor Ri, he tries to convince him about the unity between the Quarren and Mon Calamari once had when his father was king, and how he worked with Nossor Ri on having a better relationship. However, the words seemed to be in vain. Riff knows that Lee-Char is the symbol of hope for the Mon Calamari people. His plan: kill him and kill hope for the Mon Calamari by executing him.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Riff Tamson to simply have Lee-Char taken away without telling him that he has scheduled his execution, and keep the details of Lee-Char's public execution a secret from Nossor Ri so that he could not regret his mistake for joining the CIS until it is far too late, and be able to be permanently victorious on Mon Calamari.\\
'''Instead''': Says out loud that he has scheduled Lee-Char's public execution to everybody in the room (with Nossor Ri and a Quarren in the area) and Nossor Ri starts to really starts realizing that Riff has gone too far by scheduling an execution for Lee-Char, and pulls off a HeelFaceTurn during the execution by saving Lee-Char from the Karakodan executioners and helps the Republic be victorious against the Separatists. NiceJobFixingItVillain indeed!
*When Prince Lee-Char is caught and demands to have an audience with Riff Tamson and Nossor Ri, he tries to convince him about the unity between the Quarren and Mon Calamari once had when his father was king, and how he worked with Nossor Ri on having a better relationship. However, the words seemed to be in vain. Riff knows that Lee-Char is the symbol of hope for the Mon Calamari people. His plan: kill him and kill hope for the Mon Calamari by executing him.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Riff Tamson to simply have Lee-Char taken away without telling him that he has scheduled his execution, and keep the details of Lee-Char's public execution a secret from Nossor Ri so that he could not regret his mistake for joining the CIS until it is far too late, and be able to be permanently victorious on Mon Calamari.\\
'''Instead''': Says out loud that he has scheduled Lee-Char's public execution to everybody in the room (with Nossor Ri and a Quarren in the area) and Nossor Ri starts to really starts realizing that Riff has gone too far by scheduling an execution for Lee-Char, and pulls off a HeelFaceTurn during the execution by saving Lee-Char from the Karakodan executioners and helps the Republic be victorious against the Separatists. NiceJobFixingItVillain indeed!
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* In the Season 2 episode, Voyage of Temptation, when Obi-Wan finally finds Tal Merrick, who kidnapped the Duchess of Mandalore, Satine, he demands that Merrick surrenders and release the duchess. Sen. Merrick then shows that he holds a remote detonator, and has set explosives on the ship. One press of a button, and everybody on it is blown to kingdom come. And this puts pressure on Obi-Wan.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Obi-Wan to simply use the Force to disarm Sen. Merrick by grabbing his detonator remote and pistol, and save Satine.\\
'''Instead:''' He just follows Merrick, who still holds the detonator, and ''still'' holds Satine hostage, and does NOTHING about stopping him from blowing up the ship!\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Obi-Wan to simply use the Force to disarm Sen. Merrick by grabbing his detonator remote and pistol, and save Satine.\\
'''Instead:''' He just follows Merrick, who still holds the detonator, and ''still'' holds Satine hostage, and does NOTHING about stopping him from blowing up the ship!\\
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'''Instead:''' Anakin does nothing, lets Ahsoka give the dagger to the Son, who then taps Ahsoka's forehead, killing her instantly.\\
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'''Instead:''' Anakin does They do nothing, lets and let Ahsoka give the dagger to the Son, who then taps Ahsoka's forehead, killing her instantly.\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' The Daughter to either transform into her griffon-like form and attack the Son, or use the Force to either pull the dagger away from the Son or Force push him away from the Father.
'''Instead:''' She just charges right in between the Father and Son and takes the stab, breaking the balance of the Force!\\
'''Instead:''' She just charges right in between the Father and Son and takes the stab, breaking the balance of the Force!\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' The Daughter to either transform into her griffon-like form and attack the Son, or use the Force to either pull the dagger away from the Son or Force push him away from the Father.
Father.\\
'''Instead:''' She just charges right in between the Father and Son and takes the stab, breaking the balance of theForce!\\
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'''Instead:''' She just charges right in between the Father and Son and takes the stab, breaking the balance of the
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'''Instead:''' He plays it all real and DOES open the holocron, thus giving Cad Bane access to the names of future younglings, and giving him the ability to kidnap any of them at will. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Way to go, sand grain-brains!]]\\
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'''Instead:''' He plays it all real and DOES open the holocron, thus giving Cad Bane access to the names of future younglings, and giving him the ability to kidnap any of them at will. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Way to go, sand grain-brains!]]\\
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'''However:'' Let's not forget that that they are on top of buildings that are thousands of stories high, and Ahsoka probably doesn't want to risk losing her lightsaber forever.
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'''Instead:''' She keeps it on, which leads the escape plan to go downhill, because Queen Miraj then presses a button and electrocutes Ahsoka (who still had the shock collar on), and knocks her out. This also leads to the queen not being held hostage and then the Zygerrians pwn Anakin, Obi-Wan and Rex.\\
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'''Instead:''' She keeps it on, which leads the escape plan to go downhill, because Queen Miraj then presses a button and electrocutes Ahsoka (who still had the shock collar on), and knocks her out. This also leads to the queen not being held hostage and then the Zygerrians pwn Anakin, Obi-Wan and Rex.\\
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'''Instead:''' She just sits there trying to get the cage's top off her with no successes, and Lo-Tarren smashes her comlink, and no one gets any clue what has happened to Ahsoka.\\
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'''Instead:''' She just sits there trying to get the cage's top off her with no successes, and Lo-Tarren smashes her comlink, and no one gets any clue what has happened to Ahsoka.\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' The Daughter to either transform into her griffon-like form and attack the Son, or use the Force to either pull the dagger away from the Son or Force push him away from the Father.\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin or Obi-Wan to use the Force to pull the Dagger of Mortis of Ahsoka's hand and try to kill the Son with it and possibly un-posses Ahsoka.\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin or ''or'' Obi-Wan to use the Force to pull the Dagger of Mortis of Ahsoka's hand and try to kill the Son with it and possibly un-posses Ahsoka.\\
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* In the penultimate episode of Season 3, Padawan Lost, Ahsoka is knocked out by Lo-Tarren, on Garnac's Trandoshan henchmen, during a battle on Felucia, she wakes up in a cage on the Trandoshan Ship, and Lo-Tarren holds Ahsoka's comlink, which Anakin is desperately trying to call Ahsoka.\\
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* In the penultimate episode of Season 3, Padawan Lost, Ahsoka is knocked out by Lo-Tarren, on Garnac's Trandoshan henchmen, during a battle on Felucia, she wakes up regains consciousness in a cage on the Trandoshan Ship, and Lo-Tarren holds Ahsoka's comlink, which Anakin is desperately trying to call Ahsoka.\\
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* In ''Prisoners'': After Anakin and Kit Fisto are taken prisoner by Riff Tamson, he imprisons them in a couple of cages made from electric eels (very dangerous), he uses them for interrogation. After refusing to help Padme from drowning due to a cracked helmet, claiming that he doesn't he exits the room. Anakin and Kit Fisto manage to attempt to create a bubble for Padme to breath in to prevent her from drowning, but Jar-Jar uses his spit to seal the crack. So that means Jedi can still use the Force.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin and Kit Fisto to also use the Force while no guards are around, to kill the eels that are acting as their cages (they are not innocent life forms), and maybe try to start an uprising. Or they could try mind tricking the Quarren guards into letting them go.\\
'''Instead:''' They just sit there and do nothing and don't even try to use the Force to free themselves!
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'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin to use the Force to pull the Dagger of Mortis of Ahsoka's hand and try to kill the Son with it and possibly un-posses Ahsoka.\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin or Obi-Wan to use the Force to pull the Dagger of Mortis of Ahsoka's hand and try to kill the Son with it and possibly un-posses Ahsoka.\\
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Trandoshan example defense: she woke up, and she saw she was captured (and did know that the situation she was in not good), Altar of Mortis Example: Even if they were tired, force pull would\'ve been the solution to prevent the bad stuff I mentioned once from happening
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'''You's Expect:''' The body guards to keep the king there and shoot any intruding droid, until reinforcement arrives, and takes care of the droids, and escape with the King only when it's safe outside.\\
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'''You's Expect:''' The body guards to keep the king there and shoot any intruding droid, until reinforcement arrives, and takes care of the droids, and escape with the King king only when it's safe outside.\\
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* In the penultimate episode of Season 3, Padawan Lost, Ahsoka is knocked out by Lo-Tarren, on Garnac's Trandoshan henchmen, during a battle on Felucia, she wakes up in a cage on the Trandoshan Ship, and Lo-Tarren holds Ahsoka's comlink, which Anakin is desperately trying to call Ahsoka.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka to shout her status (that she is in some kind of trouble) through her stolen comlink while it's still active that she's been kidnapped, or try to pull it towards her using the Force, before Lo-Tarren smashes it and at least give Anakin an idea on what has happened to her. (Heck, Padme did that in the Clone Wars pilot movie to a holographic message to C-3PO when she was captured by Ziro the Hutt before the transmitter was smashed by the IG droid, and that was how C-3PO was able to get the Coruscant Guard to come and help her out).\\
'''Instead:''' She just sits there trying to get the cage's top off her with no successes, and Lo-Tarren smashes her comlink, and no one gets any clue what has happened to Ahsoka.\\
* In ''Altar of Mortis'', when Obi-Wan throws Anakin the Dagger of Mortis to use it to kill the Son of Mortis, Ahsoka, who was possesed by the Son, catches it. The Son tells Ahsoka to give him the Dagger so he can use it to kill the Father of Mortis.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin to use the Force to pull the Dagger of Mortis of Ahsoka's hand and try to kill the Son with it and possibly un-posses Ahsoka.\\
'''Instead:''' Anakin does nothing, lets Ahsoka give the dagger to the Son, who then taps Ahsoka's forehead, killing her instantly.\\
'''It Gets Worse:''' After killing Ahsoka, the Son of Mortis gets ready to stab the Father of Mortis and escape.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Daughter to either transform into her griffon-like form and attack the Son, or use the Force to either pull the dagger away from the Son or Force push him away from the Father.\\
'''Instead:''' She just charges right in between the Father and Son and takes the stab, breaking the balance of the Force!\\
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'''You'd expect:''' Anakin to pull off an "I surrender, suckers" moment on Bane and pretend he's going to unlock the holocron, but not do it all, and instead use the Force to grab both his lightsaber and Ahsoka's while Bane is distracted by the holocron being levitated by the Force, kick Bane's butt, and save Ahsoka, AND prevent the holocron information from being unlocked.\\
'''Instead:''' He plays it all real and DOES open the holocron, thus giving Cad Bane access to the names of future younglings, and giving him the ability to kidnap any of them at will. Way to go, sand grain-brains!\\
'''Instead:''' He plays it all real and DOES open the holocron, thus giving Cad Bane access to the names of future younglings, and giving him the ability to kidnap any of them at will. Way to go, sand grain-brains!\\
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'''You'd expect:''' Anakin to pull off an "I surrender, suckers" "ISurrenderSuckers" moment on Bane and pretend he's going to unlock the holocron, but not do it all, and instead use the Force to grab both his lightsaber and Ahsoka's while Bane is distracted by the holocron being levitated by the Force, kick Bane's butt, and save Ahsoka, AND prevent the holocron information from being unlocked.\\
'''Instead:''' He plays it all real and DOES open the holocron, thus giving Cad Bane access to the names of future younglings, and giving him the ability to kidnap any of them at will. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Way to go, sandgrain-brains!\\
grain-brains!]]\\
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'''It Gets Worse''': Ahsoka and Barriss are discovered, and their bombs are taken away, forcing them to blew up the generator using the weapons of a captured tank, which almost got both of them killed.
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'''It Gets Worse''': Ahsoka and Barriss are discovered, and their bombs are taken away, forcing them to blew up the generator using the weapons of a captured tank, which almost got both of them killed.
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'''Also Earlier:''' When Ahsoka and Barriss infiltrate the factory generator, they end up having to sneak past a group of sleeping Geonosians. They end up waking up one, who then would spy on Ahsoka and Barriss as they infiltrate the factory.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka and Barriss to check to see if there are any Geonosians that are maybe eavesdropping and dispatch the one that's following them.\\
'''Instead:''' They completly ignore the Geonosian, gets their cover blown and their explosives are stolen after Ahsoka gets knocked out by the Geonosians.
'''Also Earlier:''' When Ahsoka and Barriss infiltrate the factory generator, they end up having to sneak past a group of sleeping Geonosians. They end up waking up one, who then would spy on Ahsoka and Barriss as they infiltrate the factory.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka and Barriss to check to see if there are any Geonosians that are maybe eavesdropping and dispatch the one that's following them.\\
'''Instead:''' They completly ignore the Geonosian, gets their cover blown and their explosives are stolen after Ahsoka gets knocked out by the Geonosians.
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'''Instead:''' Ahsoka follows her on a lengthy pursuit, during which she used the Force numerous times to try to slow the bounty hunter down, but never to grab her lightsaber from her hands.
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'''Instead:''' Ahsoka follows her on a lengthy pursuit, during which she used the Force numerous times to try to slow the bounty hunter down, but never to grab her lightsaber from her hands.\\
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'''However:'' Let's not forget that that they are on top of buildings that are thousands of stories high, and Ahsoka probably doesn't want to risk losing her lightsaber forever.
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'''It Gets Worse:''' Instead of trying to hide the king in the brushes, that surrounds them from every angle except in the front and the back.\\
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'''It Gets Worse:''' Instead of trying You'd expect them to try to hide the king in the brushes, that surrounds them from every angle except in the front and the back.\\
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'''It Gets Worse:''' Them to try to hide the king inside the brushes, that surrounds them from every angle exect in the front and the back.\\
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'''It Gets Worse:''' Them to try Instead of trying to hide the king inside in the brushes, that surrounds them from every angle exect except in the front and the back.\\
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Added a few and deleted \"Blatantly wrong examples\": 1: If Obi-Wan tried to take the detonator, he would\'ve risked Satine being Boom Headshoted. 2:Ahsoka just regained consciousness, and had no idea what was going on. The confusion regarding the situation more than explains why she didn\'t try to do anything. 3: The Nightsisters were not only caught by surprise by the \"death\" of their zombies, but they were already surrounded.They literaly had nowhere to run. 4: Anakin and the Daughter were clearly and visibly exhausted by their previous battle against Ahsoka and the Son respectively, who both were powered by being on the Dark Side ruled half of Mortis.
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* "Cargo of Doom": After Ahsoka is knocked out and captured by Cad Bane, he uses her as Jedi-bait to lure Anakin to an unfair deal. If he doesn't unlock the holocron for Cad Bane, he'll open the airlock door and Ahsoka will be pulled out into space and die. Anakin ends up submitting to Bane's request, despite Ahsoka not wanting Anakin to do it (sort of like "forget about me and save yourself and the holocron!" type thing), dropping his lightsaber on the ground, saying "We'll deal with the holocron later."\\
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* In the Season 2 episode, Voyage of Temptation, when Obi-Wan finally finds Tal Merrick, who kidnapped the Duchess of Mandalore, Satine, he demands that Merrick surrenders and release the duchess. Sen. Merrick then shows that he holds a remote detonator, and has set explosives on the ship. One press of a button, and everybody on it is blown to kingdom come. And this puts pressure on Obi-Wan.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Obi-Wan to simply use the Force and grab Sen. Merrick's detonator remote and save Satine.\\
'''Instead:''' He just follows Merrick, who still holds the detonator, and still holds Satine hostage, and does NOTHING about stopping him from blowing up the ship!\\
* "In the Season Four Mid-Season Finale, "Slaves of the Republic", Ahsoka grabs her lightsaber and takes out the Zygerrian queen's guards. Anakin then tells her to hold her hostage after the queen orders the Zygerrians to subdue Anakin and Obi-Wan. Ahsoka still has her slave shock collar on her.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Obi-Wan to simply use the Force and grab Sen. Merrick's detonator remote and save Satine.\\
'''Instead:''' He just follows Merrick, who still holds the detonator, and still holds Satine hostage, and does NOTHING about stopping him from blowing up the ship!\\
* "In the Season Four Mid-Season Finale, "Slaves of the Republic", Ahsoka grabs her lightsaber and takes out the Zygerrian queen's guards. Anakin then tells her to hold her hostage after the queen orders the Zygerrians to subdue Anakin and Obi-Wan. Ahsoka still has her slave shock collar on her.\\
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* In ''Landing at Point Rain'' the Season 2 episode, Voyage of Temptation, when Obi-Wan finally finds Tal Merrick, who kidnapped Jedi launch a massive attack to destroy the Duchess of Mandalore, Satine, he demands that Merrick surrenders and release the duchess. Sen. Merrick then shows that he holds a remote detonator, and has set explosives on the ship. One press shield generator of a button, and everybody on it is blown massive weapons factory, which they plan to kingdom come. And this puts pressure on Obi-Wan.destroy in the next episode ''Weapons Factory''.\\
'''You'dExpect:''' Obi-Wan expect''': Them to simply use just call in an airstrike and bomb the Force and grab Sen. Merrick's detonator remote and save Satine.facility, given that they just destroyed the only obstacle protecting the factory from the air.\\
'''Instead:'''They send Ahsoka and Barriss to blow up the main power generator and the factory with it from the inside, while Anakin and Luminara engage the droids in a battle that demands heavy casualties.\\
'''It Gets Worse''': Ahsoka and Barriss are discovered, and their bombs are taken away, forcing them to blew up the generator using the weapons of a captured tank, which almost got both of them killed.
* In ''Lightsaber Lost'' a pickpocket stole Ahsoka's lightsaber. After a long investigation she finds it in the hands of an amatourish bounty hunter.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Her just to use the Force to pull the weapon out of the bounty hunters hands.\\
'''Instead:'''He just Ahsoka follows Merrick, who still holds her on a lengthy pursuit, during which she used the detonator, and still holds Satine hostage, and does NOTHING about stopping him Force numerous times to try to slow the bounty hunter down, but never to grab her lightsaber from blowing up the ship!\\
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'''Instead:'''They send Ahsoka and Barriss to blow up the main power generator and the factory with it from the inside, while Anakin and Luminara engage the droids in a battle that demands heavy casualties.\\
'''It Gets Worse''': Ahsoka and Barriss are discovered, and their bombs are taken away, forcing them to blew up the generator using the weapons of a captured tank, which almost got both of them killed.
* In ''Lightsaber Lost'' a pickpocket stole Ahsoka's lightsaber. After a long investigation she finds it in the hands of an amatourish bounty hunter.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Her just to use the Force to pull the weapon out of the bounty hunters hands.\\
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* In the penultimate episode of Season 3, Padawan Lost, Ahsoka is knocked out by Lo-Tarren, on Garnac's Trandoshan henchmen, during a battle on Felucia, she wakes up in a cage on the Trandoshan Ship, and Lo-Tarren holds Ahsoka's comlink, which Anakin is desperately trying to call Ahsoka.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka to shout her status through her stolen comlink while it's still active that she's been kidnapped, or try to pull it towards her using the Force, before Lo-Tarren smashes it and at least give Anakin an idea on what has happened to her. (Heck, Padme did that in the Clone Wars pilot movie to a holographic message to C-3PO when she was captured by Ziro the Hutt before the transmitter was smashed by the IG droid, and that was how C-3PO was able to get the Coruscant Guard to come and help her out).\\
'''Instead:''' She just sits there trying to get the cage's top off her with no successes, and Lo-Tarren smashes her comlink, and no one gets any clue what has happened to Ahsoka.\\
* In Massacre, Grevious kills Daka, the oldest of the Nightsisters who was using zombies of dead Nightsisters to fight back against Grevious's droid army. Because of Daka's demise, the zombies stop attacking.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Nightsisters to simply just retreat back into the Nightsister Temple.\\
'''Instead:''' They just stand there clueless, and helplessly become droid bait.\\
* In ''Altar of Mortis'', when Obi-Wan throws Anakin the Dagger of Mortis to use it to kill the Son of Mortis, Ahsoka, who was possesed by the Son, catches it. The Son tells Ahsoka to give him the Dagger so he can use it to kill the Father of Mortis.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin to use the Force to pull the Dagger of Mortis of Ahsoka's hand and try to kill the Son with it and possibly un-posses Ahsoka.\\
'''Instead:''' Anakin does nothing, lets Ahsoka give the dagger to the Son, who then taps Ahsoka's forehead, killing her instantly.\\
'''It Gets Worse:''' After killing Ahsoka, the Son of Mortis gets ready to stab the Father of Mortis and escape.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Daughter to either transform into her griffon-like form and attack the Son, or use the Force to either pull the dagger away from the Son or Force push him away from the Father.\\
'''Instead:''' She just charges right in between the Father and Son and takes the stab, breaking the balance of the Force!\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka to shout her status through her stolen comlink while it's still active that she's been kidnapped, or try to pull it towards her using the Force, before Lo-Tarren smashes it and at least give Anakin an idea on what has happened to her. (Heck, Padme did that in the Clone Wars pilot movie to a holographic message to C-3PO when she was captured by Ziro the Hutt before the transmitter was smashed by the IG droid, and that was how C-3PO was able to get the Coruscant Guard to come and help her out).\\
'''Instead:''' She just sits there trying to get the cage's top off her with no successes, and Lo-Tarren smashes her comlink, and no one gets any clue what has happened to Ahsoka.\\
* In Massacre, Grevious kills Daka, the oldest of the Nightsisters who was using zombies of dead Nightsisters to fight back against Grevious's droid army. Because of Daka's demise, the zombies stop attacking.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Nightsisters to simply just retreat back into the Nightsister Temple.\\
'''Instead:''' They just stand there clueless, and helplessly become droid bait.\\
* In ''Altar of Mortis'', when Obi-Wan throws Anakin the Dagger of Mortis to use it to kill the Son of Mortis, Ahsoka, who was possesed by the Son, catches it. The Son tells Ahsoka to give him the Dagger so he can use it to kill the Father of Mortis.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin to use the Force to pull the Dagger of Mortis of Ahsoka's hand and try to kill the Son with it and possibly un-posses Ahsoka.\\
'''Instead:''' Anakin does nothing, lets Ahsoka give the dagger to the Son, who then taps Ahsoka's forehead, killing her instantly.\\
'''It Gets Worse:''' After killing Ahsoka, the Son of Mortis gets ready to stab the Father of Mortis and escape.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Daughter to either transform into her griffon-like form and attack the Son, or use the Force to either pull the dagger away from the Son or Force push him away from the Father.\\
'''Instead:''' She just charges right in between the Father and Son and takes the stab, breaking the balance of the Force!\\
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* In ''Tipping Points'' King Dendup and his body guards are trapped inside the penultimate episode of Season 3, Padawan Lost, Ahsoka is knocked out by Lo-Tarren, on Garnac's Trandoshan henchmen, during a battle on Felucia, she wakes up in a cage on cave the Trandoshan Ship, and Lo-Tarren holds Ahsoka's comlink, rebels used as an HQ, with droids outside. The cave only has one narrow tunnel as an entrace, which Anakin is desperately trying to call Ahsoka.could be protected easily from the inside.\\
'''You'd '''You's Expect:''' Ahsoka The body guards to shout her status through her stolen comlink while keep the king there and shoot any intruding droid, until reinforcement arrives, and takes care of the droids, and escape with the King only when it's still active that she's been kidnapped, or try to pull it towards her using the Force, before Lo-Tarren smashes it and at least give Anakin an idea on what has happened to her. (Heck, Padme did that in the Clone Wars pilot movie to a holographic message to C-3PO when she was captured by Ziro the Hutt before the transmitter was smashed by the IG droid, and that was how C-3PO was able to get the Coruscant Guard to come and help her out).safe outside.\\
'''Instead:'''She just sits there trying They try to get escape when Steela's the cage's top off her with no successes, only reinforcement that arrived, and Lo-Tarren smashes her comlink, and no one gets any clue what has happened to Ahsoka.\\
* In Massacre, Grevious kills Daka,the oldest of battle's still raging, so the Nightsisters who was using zombies of dead Nightsisters remaining droids naturally start to fight back against Grevious's droid army. Because of Daka's demise, the zombies stop attacking.pursue them immediately.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Nightsisters '''It Gets Worse:''' Them to simply just retreat back into try to hide the Nightsister Temple.king inside the brushes, that surrounds them from every angle exect in the front and the back.\\
'''Instead:''' Theyjust stand there clueless, and helplessly become droid bait.\\
* In ''Altar of Mortis'', when Obi-Wan throws Anakin the Dagger of Mortis to use it to kill the Son of Mortis, Ahsoka, who was possesed by the Son, catches it. The Son tells Ahsoka to give him the Dagger so he can use it to kill the Father of Mortis.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin to use the Force to pull the Dagger of Mortis of Ahsoka's hand and try to kill the Son with it and possibly un-posses Ahsoka.\\
'''Instead:''' Anakin does nothing, lets Ahsoka give the dagger to the Son, who then taps Ahsoka's forehead, killing her instantly.\\
'''It Gets Worse:''' After killing Ahsoka, the Son of Mortis gets ready to stab the Father of Mortis and escape.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Daughter to either transform into her griffon-like form and attack the Son, or use the Force to either pull the dagger away from the Son or Force push him away from the Father.\\
'''Instead:''' She just charges right in between the Father and Son and takes the stab, breaking the balance of the Force!\\continue running straight forwards, towards a ravine, which they must be very well aware of.
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* In Massacre, Grevious kills Daka,
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* In ''Altar of Mortis'', when Obi-Wan throws Anakin the Dagger of Mortis to use it to kill the Son of Mortis, Ahsoka, who was possesed by the Son, catches it. The Son tells Ahsoka to give him the Dagger so he can use it to kill the Father of Mortis.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin to use the Force to pull the Dagger of Mortis of Ahsoka's hand and try to kill the Son with it and possibly un-posses Ahsoka.\\
'''Instead:''' Anakin does nothing, lets Ahsoka give the dagger to the Son, who then taps Ahsoka's forehead, killing her instantly.\\
'''It Gets Worse:''' After killing Ahsoka, the Son of Mortis gets ready to stab the Father of Mortis and escape.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Daughter to either transform into her griffon-like form and attack the Son, or use the Force to either pull the dagger away from the Son or Force push him away from the Father.\\
'''Instead:''' She just charges right in between the Father and Son and takes the stab, breaking the balance of the Force!\\
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* In the Season 2 episode, Voyage of Temptation, when Obi-Wan finally finds Tal Merrick, who kidnapped the Duchess of Mandalore, Satine, he demands that Merrick surrenders and release the duchess. Sen. Merrick then shows that he holds a remote detonator, and has set explosives on the ship. One press of a button, and everybody on it is blown to kingdom come. And this puts pressure on Obi-Wan.
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* In the Season 2 episode, Voyage of Temptation, when Obi-Wan finally finds Tal Merrick, who kidnapped the Duchess of Mandalore, Satine, he demands that Merrick surrenders and release the duchess. Sen. Merrick then shows that he holds a remote detonator, and has set explosives on the ship. One press of a button, and everybody on it is blown to kingdom come. And this puts pressure on Obi-Wan.\\
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* "In the Season Four MidSeason Finale, "Slaves of the Republic", Ahsoka grabs her lightsaber and takes out the Zygerrian queen's guards. Anakin then tells her to hold her hostage after the queen orders the Zygerrians to subdue Anakin and Obi-Wan. Ahsoka still has her slave shock collar on her.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka to remove the shock collar on her before trying to hold Miraj Scientel hostage.\\
'''Instead:''' She keeps it on, which leads the escape plan to go downhill, because Queen Miraj then presses a button and electrocutes Ahsoka (who still had the shock collar on), and knocks her out. This also leads to the queen not being held hostage and then the Zygerrians pwn Anakin, Obi-Wan and Rex.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka to remove the shock collar on her before trying to hold Miraj Scientel hostage.\\
'''Instead:''' She keeps it on, which leads the escape plan to go downhill, because Queen Miraj then presses a button and electrocutes Ahsoka (who still had the shock collar on), and knocks her out. This also leads to the queen not being held hostage and then the Zygerrians pwn Anakin, Obi-Wan and Rex.\\
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* In the Season 2 episode, Voyage of Temptation, when Obi-Wan finally finds Tal Merrick, who kidnapped the Duchess of Mandalore, Satine, he demands that Merrick surrenders and release the duchess. Sen. Merrick then shows that he holds a remote detonator, and has set explosives on the ship. One press of a button, and everybody on it is blown to kingdom come. And this puts pressure on Obi-Wan.
'''You'd Expect:''' Obi-Wan to simply use the Force and grab Sen. Merrick's detonator remote and save Satine.\\
'''Instead:''' He just follows Merrick, who still holds the detonator, and still holds Satine hostage, and does NOTHING about stopping him from blowing up the ship!\\
* "In the Season FourMidSeason Mid-Season Finale, "Slaves of the Republic", Ahsoka grabs her lightsaber and takes out the Zygerrian queen's guards. Anakin then tells her to hold her hostage after the queen orders the Zygerrians to subdue Anakin and Obi-Wan. Ahsoka still has her slave shock collar on her.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka to remove the shock collar on her before trying to hold Miraj Scientel hostage.\\
'''Instead:''' She keeps it on, which leads the escape plan to go downhill, because Queen Miraj then presses a button and electrocutes Ahsoka (who still had the shock collar on), and knocks her out. This also leads to the queen not being held hostage and then the Zygerrians pwn Anakin, Obi-Wan and Rex.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Obi-Wan to simply use the Force and grab Sen. Merrick's detonator remote and save Satine.\\
'''Instead:''' He just follows Merrick, who still holds the detonator, and still holds Satine hostage, and does NOTHING about stopping him from blowing up the ship!\\
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'''You'd Expect:''' The Nightsisters to simply just retreat back into the Nightsister Temple.\\
'''Instead:''' They just stand there clueless, and helplessly become droid bait.\\
* In Altar of Mortis, when Obi-Wan throws Anakin the Dagger of Mortis to use it to kill the Son of Mortis, Ahsoka, who was possesed by the Son, catches it. The Son tells Ahsoka to give him the Dagger so he can use it to kill the Father of Mortis.\\
'''Instead:''' They just stand there clueless, and helplessly become droid bait.\\
* In Altar of Mortis, when Obi-Wan throws Anakin the Dagger of Mortis to use it to kill the Son of Mortis, Ahsoka, who was possesed by the Son, catches it. The Son tells Ahsoka to give him the Dagger so he can use it to kill the Father of Mortis.\\
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* "Cargo of Doom": After Ahsoka is knocked out and captured by Cad Bane, he uses her as Jedi-bait to lure Anakin to an unfair deal. If he doesn't unlock the holocron for Cad Bane, he'll open the airlock door and Ahsoka will be pulled out into space and die. Anakin ends up submitting to Bane's request, despite Ahsoka not wanting Anakin to do it (sort of like "forget about me and save yourself and the holocron!" type thing), dropping his lightsaber on the ground, saying "We'll deal with the holocron later."\\
'''You'd expect:''' Anakin to pull off an "I surrender, suckers" moment on Bane and pretend he's going to unlock the holocron, but not do it all, and instead use the Force to grab both his lightsaber and Ahsoka's while Bane is distracted by the holocron being levitated by the Force, kick Bane's butt, and save Ahsoka, AND prevent the holocron information from being unlocked.\\
'''Instead:''' He plays it all real and DOES open the holocron, thus giving Cad Bane access to the names of future younglings, and giving him the ability to kidnap any of them at will. Way to go, sand grain-brains!\\
* "In the Season Four MidSeason Finale, "Slaves of the Republic", Ahsoka grabs her lightsaber and takes out the Zygerrian queen's guards. Anakin then tells her to hold her hostage after the queen orders the Zygerrians to subdue Anakin and Obi-Wan. Ahsoka still has her slave shock collar on her.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka to remove the shock collar on her before trying to hold Miraj Scientel hostage.\\
'''Instead:''' She keeps it on, which leads the escape plan to go downhill, because Queen Miraj then presses a button and electrocutes Ahsoka (who still had the shock collar on), and knocks her out. This also leads to the queen not being held hostage and then the Zygerrians pwn Anakin, Obi-Wan and Rex.\\
* In the penultimate episode of Season 3, Padawan Lost, Ahsoka is knocked out by Lo-Tarren, on Garnac's Trandoshan henchmen, during a battle on Felucia, she wakes up in a cage on the Trandoshan Ship, and Lo-Tarren holds Ahsoka's comlink, which Anakin is desperately trying to call Ahsoka.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka to shout her status through her stolen comlink while it's still active that she's been kidnapped, or try to pull it towards her using the Force, before Lo-Tarren smashes it and at least give Anakin an idea on what has happened to her. (Heck, Padme did that in the Clone Wars pilot movie to a holographic message to C-3PO when she was captured by Ziro the Hutt before the transmitter was smashed by the IG droid, and that was how C-3PO was able to get the Coruscant Guard to come and help her out).\\
'''Instead:''' She just sits there trying to get the cage's top off her with no successes, and Lo-Tarren smashes her comlink, and no one gets any clue what has happened to Ahsoka.\\
* In Massacre, Grevious kills Daka, the oldest of the Nightsisters who was using zombies of dead Nightsisters to fight back against Grevious's droid army. Because of Daka's demise, the zombies stop attacking.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Nightsisters to simply just retreat back into the Nightsister Temple.\\
'''Instead:''' They just stand there clueless, and helplessly become droid bait.\\
* In Altar of Mortis, when Obi-Wan throws Anakin the Dagger of Mortis to use it to kill the Son of Mortis, Ahsoka, who was possesed by the Son, catches it. The Son tells Ahsoka to give him the Dagger so he can use it to kill the Father of Mortis.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin to use the Force to pull the Dagger of Mortis of Ahsoka's hand and try to kill the Son with it and possibly un-posses Ahsoka.\\
'''Instead:''' Anakin does nothing, lets Ahsoka give the dagger to the Son, who then taps Ahsoka's forehead, killing her instantly.\\
'''It Gets Worse:''' After killing Ahsoka, the Son of Mortis gets ready to stab the Father of Mortis and escape.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Daughter to either transform into her griffon-like form and attack the Son, or use the Force to either pull the dagger away from the Son or Force push him away from the Father.\\
'''Instead:''' She just charges right in between the Father and Son and takes the stab, breaking the balance of the Force!\\
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* "Cargo of Doom": After Ahsoka is knocked out and captured by Cad Bane, he uses her as Jedi-bait to lure Anakin to an unfair deal. If he doesn't unlock the holocron for Cad Bane, he'll open the airlock door and Ahsoka will be pulled out into space and die. Anakin ends up submitting to Bane's request, despite Ahsoka not wanting Anakin to do it (sort of like "forget about me and save yourself and the holocron!" type thing), dropping his lightsaber on the ground, saying "We'll deal with the holocron later."\\
'''You'd expect:''' Anakin to pull off an "I surrender, suckers" moment on Bane and pretend he's going to unlock the holocron, but not do it all, and instead use the Force to grab both his lightsaber and Ahsoka's while Bane is distracted by the holocron being levitated by the Force, kick Bane's butt, and save Ahsoka, AND prevent the holocron information from being unlocked.\\
'''Instead:''' He plays it all real and DOES open the holocron, thus giving Cad Bane access to the names of future younglings, and giving him the ability to kidnap any of them at will. Way to go, sand grain-brains!\\
* "In the Season Four MidSeason Finale, "Slaves of the Republic", Ahsoka grabs her lightsaber and takes out the Zygerrian queen's guards. Anakin then tells her to hold her hostage after the queen orders the Zygerrians to subdue Anakin and Obi-Wan. Ahsoka still has her slave shock collar on her.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka to remove the shock collar on her before trying to hold Miraj Scientel hostage.\\
'''Instead:''' She keeps it on, which leads the escape plan to go downhill, because Queen Miraj then presses a button and electrocutes Ahsoka (who still had the shock collar on), and knocks her out. This also leads to the queen not being held hostage and then the Zygerrians pwn Anakin, Obi-Wan and Rex.\\
* In the penultimate episode of Season 3, Padawan Lost, Ahsoka is knocked out by Lo-Tarren, on Garnac's Trandoshan henchmen, during a battle on Felucia, she wakes up in a cage on the Trandoshan Ship, and Lo-Tarren holds Ahsoka's comlink, which Anakin is desperately trying to call Ahsoka.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ahsoka to shout her status through her stolen comlink while it's still active that she's been kidnapped, or try to pull it towards her using the Force, before Lo-Tarren smashes it and at least give Anakin an idea on what has happened to her. (Heck, Padme did that in the Clone Wars pilot movie to a holographic message to C-3PO when she was captured by Ziro the Hutt before the transmitter was smashed by the IG droid, and that was how C-3PO was able to get the Coruscant Guard to come and help her out).\\
'''Instead:''' She just sits there trying to get the cage's top off her with no successes, and Lo-Tarren smashes her comlink, and no one gets any clue what has happened to Ahsoka.\\
* In Massacre, Grevious kills Daka, the oldest of the Nightsisters who was using zombies of dead Nightsisters to fight back against Grevious's droid army. Because of Daka's demise, the zombies stop attacking.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Nightsisters to simply just retreat back into the Nightsister Temple.\\
'''Instead:''' They just stand there clueless, and helplessly become droid bait.\\
* In Altar of Mortis, when Obi-Wan throws Anakin the Dagger of Mortis to use it to kill the Son of Mortis, Ahsoka, who was possesed by the Son, catches it. The Son tells Ahsoka to give him the Dagger so he can use it to kill the Father of Mortis.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Anakin to use the Force to pull the Dagger of Mortis of Ahsoka's hand and try to kill the Son with it and possibly un-posses Ahsoka.\\
'''Instead:''' Anakin does nothing, lets Ahsoka give the dagger to the Son, who then taps Ahsoka's forehead, killing her instantly.\\
'''It Gets Worse:''' After killing Ahsoka, the Son of Mortis gets ready to stab the Father of Mortis and escape.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The Daughter to either transform into her griffon-like form and attack the Son, or use the Force to either pull the dagger away from the Son or Force push him away from the Father.\\
'''Instead:''' She just charges right in between the Father and Son and takes the stab, breaking the balance of the Force!\\
