History WellIntentionedExtremist / WebAnimation

** Sienna pushed the White Fang to adopt a more violent philosophy, and is willing to use violence when needed to further her goals. However, she ultimately wants respect and equality for the Faunus after the decades of racism and mistreatment they suffered, and she condemns Adam's attack on Beacon as excessive & foolish as it would just go to prove people's prejudices right. Adam kills her in a coup, believing that she's too soft and that humans should serve the Faunus. Ghira even admits that while he doesn't condone Sienna's methods, he does condone her intentions.

** Sienna Khan pushed the White Fang to adopt a more violent philosophy, and is willing to use violence when needed to further her goals. However, she ultimately wants respect and equality for the Faunus after the decades of racism and mistreatment they suffered, and she condemns Adam's attack on Beacon as excessive & foolish as it would just go to prove people's prejudices right. Ghira even admits that while he doesn't condone Sienna's methods, he ''does'' condone her intentions. [[spoiler:When she refuses to support Adam's desire to destroy Haven Academy the way he helped destroy Beacon Academy, Adam enacts a coup he'd prepared for just this eventuality; he believes she's too soft and that the humans should be made to serve the Faunus as second-class citizens [[ANAziByAnyOtherName to a superior race]].]]

** DiscussedTrope: Blake originally believes that Adam shares her idealism for a world where humans and Faunus peacefully co-exist. Even though she left the organization because of his extremism, she still believes that he's just gone too far in pursuit of a noble goal and spends the first three volumes describing him to others in this way. It isn't until the very end of Volume 3 that Blake realizes that Adam ''never'' shared her dream when he tells her it's impossible to achieve; instead, he helps the villains destroy Beacon Academy, and vows to kill everyone Blake loves to punish her for abandoning him. In Volume 5, she clarifies her evolving thought process to Sun as a case of MotiveMisidentification, initially thinking he stood for justice or passion until eventually realising that he only symbolised spite. She then explains to Yang in Volume 6 that his true power comes from his ability to control the people around him and bring them down to his level; this causes Yang to later ask Adam if Blake's vow of loyalty to him was really made to him or to the person he was pretending to be, indicating that she believes Blake's MotiveMisidentification was caused by Adam deliberately fooling her.

** In Volume 7, Ironwood engages in increasingly authoritarian measures to deal with the threat Salem poses to the Kingdom of Atlas. He institutes a military curfew on Mantle, justifying the oppression to keep Salem's agents out of the kingdom. He intends on blowing the secret of Salem wide-open, despite knowing this will trigger massive Grimm assaults that will cause panic, devastation and chaos, arguing that the Atlesian military can handle the fall-out. [[spoiler:He plans to have Winter take the Winter Maiden powers by having her manipulate the dying Winter Maiden to control who's in her last thoughts. When he learns that Team RWBY has been keeping secrets from him and leaked intel to Robyn, he orders Winter to take the Winter Maiden powers by force, declares martial law to sideline the Atlesian council and declares the intention to raise Atlas high into the heavens, abandoning Mantle to its fate. His argument is that it's impossible to save both cities from Salem and the Grimm so he needs to cut his losses and just save Atlas. He then orders the arrest of anyone who isn't on board with his plan.]]
*** This is arguably [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]] however, as for all of Ironwood's best intentions, many of his extreme actions not only alienate many of his own allies, but can be seen as completely ''unnecessary'' (or at the very least extremely poorly thought out) decisions as well. [[spoiler:He would not have needed to put Mantle under curfew if he had been more willing to devote resources to improving their infrastructure (especially since he had taken a large amount of their resources from them to build a new global communications tower, which had the side effect of leaving Mantle with a giant hole in one of its defenses), thus giving them less reason to rebel against him. While the tower intended to restore communications and reveal Salem's existence is generally a good thing, the secrecy behind it also causes him to alienate potential allies who could have helped him if he had been willing to trust them, such as Mantle hero Robyn Hill. As a result and because of the Mantle resource issue, she doesn't have any reason to trust him for a good portion of Volume 7 until she's let in on the situation. His attempts to control who becomes the next Winter Maiden also ignores that the Winter Maiden herself might not necessarily give her powers to his chosen candidate, and that said candidate is aware of his manipulation. Finally, his intent to abandon Mantle has two serious problems, given that he also alienates the only group of people (Team RWBY and Team JNPR..and Qrow) who actually have any direct experience against her and understand her methods better than most, but in addition is driven more by his all-encompassing fear of Salem. He also ignores the fact that given [[GiantFlyer her means of coming in]], it would only be a matter of time before she'd be able to create a means to catch up to Atlas, especially since it would be isolated from the rest of Remnant. Finally, this doesn't factor in that she could easily use Atlas' abandonment of Mantle against Ironwood, as it would not be taken well by the rest of the world and likely divide humanity even more, making them easy pickings for her.]] [[ControlFreak As such, for all of his stated intentions, his extreme actions come off as less an intent to do the right thing, and more as him not being able to accept doing anything that isn't under his complete supervision and control,]] a mindset that ends up causing him MORE problems.
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*** This is arguably [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]] however, as for all of Ironwood's best intentions, many of his extreme actions not only alienate many of his own allies, but can be seen as completely ''unnecessary'' (or at the very least extremely poorly thought out) decisions as well. [[spoiler:He would not have needed to put Mantle under curfew if he had been more willing to devote resources to improving their infrastructure (especially since he had taken a large amount of their resources from them to build a new global communications tower, which had the side effect of leaving Mantle with a giant hole in one of its defenses), thus giving them less reason to rebel against him. His secrecy about the tower intended to restore communications and reveal Salem's existence, while generally a good thing, also causes him to alienate potential allies who could have helped him if he had been willing to trust them, such as Mantle hero Robyn Hill. As a result and because of the Mantle resource issue, she doesn't have any reason to trust him for a good portion of Volume 7 until she's let in on the situation. His attempts to control who becomes the next Winter Maiden also ignores that the Winter Maiden herself might not necessarily give her powers to his chosen candidate, and that said candidate is aware of his manipulation. Finally, his intent to abandon Mantle has two serious problems, given that he also alienates the only group of people (Team RWBY and Team JNPR..and Qrow) who actually have any direct experience against her and understand her methods better than most, but in addition is driven more by his all-encompassing fear of Salem. He also ignores the fact that given [[GiantFlyer her means of coming in]], it would only be a matter of time before she'd be able to create a means to catch up to Atlas, especially since it would be isolated from the rest of Remnant. Finally, this doesn't factor in that she could easily use Atlas' abandonment of Mantle against Ironwood, as it would not be taken well by the rest of the world and likely divide humanity even more, making them easy pickings for her.]] [[ControlFreak As such, for all of his stated intentions, his extreme actions come off as less an intent to do the right thing, and more as him not being able to accept doing anything that isn't under his complete supervision and control,]] a mindset that ends up causing him MORE problems.

*** This is arguably [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]] however, as for all of Ironwood's best intentions, many of his extreme actions not only alienate many of his own allies, but can be seen as completely ''unnecessary'' (or at the very least extremely poorly thought out) decisions as well. [[spoiler:He would not have needed to put Mantle under curfew if he had been more willing to devote resources to improving their infrastructure (especially since he had taken a large amount of their resources from them to build a new global communications tower, which had the side effect of leaving Mantle with a giant hole in one of its defenses), thus giving them less reason to rebel against him. His secrecy about the tower intended to restore communications and reveal Salem's existence, while generally a good thing, also causes him to alienate potential allies who could have helped him if he had been willing to trust them, such as Mantle hero Robyn Hill. As a result and because of the Mantle resource issue, she doesn't have any reason to trust him for a good portion of Volume 7 until she's let in on the situation. His attempts to control who becomes the next Winter Maiden also ignores that the Winter Maiden herself might not necessarily give her powers to his chosen candidate, and that said candidate is aware of his manipulation. Finally, his intent to abandon Mantle is driven more by his all-encompassing fear of Salem, and ignores the fact that given [[GiantFlyer her means of coming in]], it would only be a matter of time before she'd be able to create a means to catch up to Atlas, especially since it would be isolated from the rest of Remnant, nevermind that abandoning Mantle would not be taken well by the rest of the world and likely divide humanity even more.]] [[ControlFreak As such, for all of his stated intentions, his extreme actions come off as less an intent to do the right thing, and more as him not being able to accept doing anything that isn't under his complete supervision and control,]] a mindset that ends up causing him MORE problems.

*** This is arguably [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]] however, as for all of Ironwood's best intentions, many of his extreme actions not only alienate many of his own allies, but can be seen as completely ''unnecessary'' (or at the very least extremely poorly thought out) decisions as well. [[spoiler:He would not have needed to put Mantle under curfew if he had been more willing to devote resources to improving their infrastructure (especially since he had taken a large amount of their resources from them to build a new global communications tower, which had the side effect of leaving Mantle with a giant hole in one of its defenses), thus giving them less reason to rebel against him. His secrecy about the tower intended to restore communications and reveal Salem's existence, while generally a good thing, also causes him to alienate potential allies who could have helped him if he had been willing to trust them, such as Mantle hero Robyn Hill. As a result and because of the Mantle resource issue, she doesn't have any reason to trust him for a good portion of Volume 7 until she's let in on the situation. His attempts to control who becomes the next Winter Maiden also ignores that the Winter Maiden herself might not necessarily give her powers to his chosen candidate, and that said candidate is aware of his manipulation. Finally, his intent to abandon Mantle is driven more by his all-encompassing fear of Salem, and ignores the fact that given [[GiantFlyer her means of coming in]], it would only be a matter of time before she'd be able to create a means catch Atlas, especially since it would be isolated from the rest of Remnant, nevermind that abandoning Mantle would not be taken well by the rest of the world and likely divide humanity even more.]] [[ControlFreak As such, for all of his stated intentions, his extreme actions come off as less an intent to do the right thing, and more as him not being able to accept doing anything that isn't under his complete supervision and control,]] a mindset that ends up causing him MORE problems.

*** This is arguably [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]] however, as for all of Ironwood's best intentions, many of his extreme actions not only alienate many of his own allies, but can be seen as completely ''unnecessary'' (or at the very least extremely poorly thought out) decisions as well. [[spoiler:He would not have needed to put Mantle under curfew if he had been more willing to devote resources to improving their infrastructure (especially since he had taken a large amount of their resources from them to build a new global communications tower, which had the side effect of leaving Mantle with a giant hole in one of its defenses), thus giving them less reason to rebel against him. His secrecy about the tower intended to restore communications and reveal Salem's existence, while generally a good thing, also causes him to alienate potential allies who could have helped him if he had been willing to trust them, such as Mantle hero Robyn Hill. As a result and because of the Mantle resource issue, she doesn't have any reason to trust him for a good portion of Volume 7 until she's let in on the situation. His attempts to control who becomes the next Winter Maiden also ignores that the Winter Maiden herself might not necessarily give her powers to his chosen candidate, and that said candidate is aware of his manipulation. Finally, his intent to abandon Mantle is driven more by his all-encompassing fear of Salem, and ignores the fact that given her means of coming in, it would only be a matter of time before she'd be able to catch Atlas, especially since it would be isolated from the rest of Remnant, nevermind that abandoning Mantle would not be taken well by the rest of the world and likely divide humanity even more.]] [[ControlFreak As such, for all of his stated intentions, his extreme actions come off as less an intent to do the right thing, and more as him not being able to accept doing anything that isn't under his complete supervision and control,]] a mindset that ends up causing him MORE problems.

*** This is arguably [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]] however, as for all of Ironwood's best intentions, many of his extreme actions not only alienate many of his own allies, but can be seen as completely ''unnecessary'' (or at the very least extremely poorly thought out) decisions as well. [[spoiler:He would not have needed to put Mantle under curfew if he had been more willing to devote resources to improving their infrastructure (especially since he had taken a large amount of their resources from them to build a new global communications tower, which had the side effect of leaving Mantle with a giant hole in one of its defenses), thus giving them less reason to rebel against him. His secrecy about the tower intended to restore communications and reveal Salem's existence, while generally a good thing, also causes him to alienate potential allies who could have helped him if he had been willing to trust them, such as Mantle hero Robyn Hill. As a result and because of the Mantle resource issue, she doesn't have any reason to trust him for a good portion of Volume 7 until she's let in on the situation. His attempts to control who becomes the next Winter Maiden also ignores that the Winter Maiden herself might not necessarily give her powers to his chosen candidate, and that said candidate is aware of his manipulation.]] [[ControlFreak As such, for all of his stated intentions, his extreme actions come off as less an intent to do the right thing, and more as him not being able to accept doing anything that isn't under his complete supervision and control,]] a mindset that ends up causing him MORE problems.

** DiscussedTrope: Blake originally believes that Adam shares her idealism for a world where humans and Faunus peacefully co-exist. Even though she left the organization because of his extremism, she still believes that he's just gone too far in pursuit of a noble goal and spends the first three volumes describing him to others in this way. It isn't until the very end of Volume 3 that Blake realizes that Adam ''never'' shared her dream when he tells her it's impossible to achieve; instead, he helps the villains destroy Beacon Academy, and vows to kill everyone Blake loves to punish her for abandoning him. In Volume 5, she clarifies her evolving thought process to Sun as a case of MotiveMisidentification, initially thinking he stood for justice or passion until eventually realising that he only symbolised spite. She then explains to Yang in Volume 6 that his true power comes from his ability to control the people around him and bring them down to his level; this causes Yang to later ask Adam if her vow of loyalty to him was really made to him or to the person he was pretending to be, indicating that she believes Blake's MotiveMisidentification was caused by Adam deliberately fooling her.

** DiscussedTrope: Blake originally believes that Adam shares her idealism for a world where humans and Faunus peacefully co-exist. Even though she left the organization because of his extremism, she still believes that he's just gone too far in pursuit of a noble goal and spends the first three volumes describing him to others in this way. It isn't until the very end of Volume 3 that Blake realizes that Adam ''never'' shared her dream when he tells her it's impossible to achieve; he instead wants to destroy humanity's power structures and enslave them to the Faunus... but only after he's killed everyone Blake loves to punish her for abandoning him. In Volume 5, she clarifies her evolving thought process to Sun as a case of MotiveMisidentification, initially thinking he stood for justice or passion until eventually realising that he only symbolised spite. She then explains to Yang in Volume 6 that his true power comes from his ability to control the people around him and bring them down to his level; this causes Yang to later ask Adam if her vow of loyalty to him was really made to him or to the person he was pretending to be, indicating that she believes Blake's MotiveMisidentification was caused by Adam deliberately fooling her.

* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': In Volume 7, Ironwood engages in increasingly authoritarian measures to deal with the threat Salem poses to the Kingdom of Atlas. He institutes a military curfew on Mantle, justifying the oppression to keep Salem's agents out of the kingdom. He intends on blowing the secret of Salem wide-open, despite knowing this will trigger massive Grimm assaults that will cause panic, devastation and chaos, arguing that the Atlesian military can handle the fall-out. [[spoiler:He plans to have Winter take the Winter Maiden powers by having her manipulate the dying Winter Maiden to control who's in her last thoughts. When he learns that Team RWBY has been keeping secrets from him and leaked intel to Robyn, he orders Winter to take the Winter Maiden powers by force, declares martial law to sideline the Atlesian council and declares the intention to raise Atlas high into the heavens, abandoning Mantle to its fate. His argument is that it's impossible to save both cities from Salem and the Grimm so he needs to cut his losses and just save Atlas. He then orders the arrest of anyone who isn't on board with his plan.]]

* The BigBad of ''WebAnimation/BrokenSaints'', [[spoiler:Lear Dunham]], goes to ridiculous extremes (the most disturbing of which involve the torture of his own [[spoiler:daughter]]) to create a new world order that will set right all the wrongs of modern society.
* Yukari Yakumo in ''WebAnimation/DiamondInTheRoughTouhou'' has this plans for the gappies. [[spoiler:She believes Gensokyo grew [[WeHaveBecomeComplacent complacent]], and that might destroy Gensokyo due to making the [[TheMagicGoesAway magic fade away]], so she gaps selfish children to destroy the balance of Gensokyo and put it into a state of ForeverWar and keep Gensokyo alive with war, calling this Paradise.]]

* ''WebAnimation/DSBTInsaniT'': Micheal and Ashley want to return to the world to is natural state, but they do so by destroying structures and attacking anyone who stands in their way.

* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}: In Volume 7, Ironwood engages in increasingly authoritarian measures to deal with the threat Salem poses to the Kingdom of Atlas. He institutes a military curfew on Mantle, justifying the oppression to keep Salem's agents out of the kingdom. He intends on blowing the secret of Salem wide-open, despite knowing this will trigger massive Grimm assaults that will cause panic, devastation and chaos, arguing that the Atlesian military can handle the fall-out. [[spoiler:He plans to have Winter take the Winter Maiden powers by having her manipulate the dying Winter Maiden to control who's in her last thoughts. When he learns that Team RWBY has been keeping secrets from him and leaked intel to Robyn, he orders Winter to take the Winter Maiden powers by force, declares martial law to sideline the Atlesian council and declares the intention to raise Atlas high into the heavens, abandoning Mantle to its fate. His argument is that it's impossible to save both cities from Salem and the Grimm so he needs to cut his losses and just save Atlas. He then orders the arrest of anyone who isn't on board with his plan.]]

* Zigzagged with the White Fang from ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}''. On the one hand, they started out peacefully protesting [[FantasticRacism Faunus oppression]], and only descended into terrorist actions when their leadership switched over--terrorist actions which an ex-White Fang member reluctantly admits worked better than the original protesting. On the other, said ex-White Fang member left when told to kill innocent bystanders, [[spoiler: and said new leader is eventually revealed to be abusive and murderously bigoted himself. Then there's the fact the arc villain has employed them to enact an ''even worse'' plan, although she had to kill a few people to convince the guy to work under a human...]]

** Cinder Fall herself also qualifies, as all of her actions are out of a desire to overthrow [[BenevolentConspiracy Ozpin's cabal]] for their actions regarding their soldiers, their censorship of world history, and her personal dislike of Ozpin's arrogance. The same also applies to [[BiggerBad her boss Salem]] who she seems to have gotten her views from.

** Cinder Fall herself also qualifies, as all of her actions are out of a desire to overthrow [[BenevolentConspiracy Ozpin's cabal]] for their actions regarding their soldiers, their censorship of world history, and her personal dislike of Ozpin's arrogance. The same also applies to [[BiggerBad her boss Salem]] who she seems to have gotten her views from.

** Cinder Fall herself also qualifies, as all of her actions are out of a desire to overthrow [[Ozpin's cabal BenevolentConspiracy]] for their actions regarding their soldiers, their censorship of world history, and her personal dislike of Ozpin's arrogance. The same also applies to [[BiggerBad her boss Salem]] who she seems to have gotten her views from.

* Zigzagged with the White Fang from ''WebAnimation/RWBY''. On the one hand, they started out peacefully protesting [[FantasticRacism Faunus oppression]], and only descended into terrorist actions when their leadership switched over--terrorist actions which an ex-White Fang member reluctantly admits worked better than the original protesting. On the other, said ex-White Fang member left when told to kill innocent bystanders, [[spoiler: and said new leader is eventually revealed to be abusive and murderously bigoted himself. Then there's the fact the arc villain has employed them to enact an ''even worse'' plan, although she had to kill a few people to convince the guy to work under a human...]]

* Zigzagged with the White Fang from ''RWBY''. On the one hand, they started out peacefully protesting [[FantasticRacism Faunus oppression]], and only descended into terrorist actions when their leadership switched over--terrorist actions which an ex-White Fang member reluctantly admits worked better than the original protesting. On the other, said ex-White Fang member left when told to kill innocent bystanders, [[spoiler: and said new leader is eventually revealed to be abusive and murderously bigoted himself. Then there's the fact the arc villain has employed them to enact an ''even worse'' plan, although she had to kill a few people to convince the guy to work under a human...]]

* The BigBad of ''BrokenSaints'', [[spoiler:Lear Dunham]], goes to ridiculous extremes (the most disturbing of which involve the torture of his own [[spoiler:daughter]]) to create a new world order that will set right all the wrongs of modern society.

* Yukari Yakumo in ''FanFic/DiamondInTheRough'' has this plans for the gappies. [[spoiler:She believes Gensokyo grew [[WeHaveBecomeComplacent complacent]], and that might destroy Gensokyo due to making the [[TheMagicGoesAway magic fade away]], so she gaps selfish children to destroy the balance of Gensokyo and put it into a state of ForeverWar and keep Gensokyo alive with war, calling this Paradise.]]

* The BigBad of ''BrokenSaints'', [[spoiler:Lear Dunham]], goes to ridiculous extremes (the most disturbing of which involve the torture of his own [[spoiler:daughter]]) to create a new world order that will set right all the wrongs of modern society.